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starg8fans
August 28th, 2009, 09:17 AM
What I've seen until now makes me think we're in for a great season 5. Since it's supposed to be the last in Kripke's epic story arc, here's the question: What would you like to see in the upcoming episodes? Any characters you'd like to see again? Any special scenes or moments for the boys? Any unresolved issues you'd like settled?

Personally, I have a few questions I'd like to have answers to.

What is the significance behind Dean's pendant?

Is the boy from The Kids are alright really NOT Dean's son?

Why did Jessica's ghost appear to Sam - I think it was in Heart?

That's all I can think of now, but I'm sure there'll be others.

LoneStar1836
August 30th, 2009, 11:35 AM
Well nothing specific comes to mind, atm. I'm just kind of along for the ride in season 5. I still haven't seen the last 4 episodes of season 4.

No characters I'd like to see again cuz some of the ones I really liked are dead...like YED and Andy. Spoiler for someone coming back in S5....
I'm not really looking forward to them bringing back Meg because they obviously can't have Nicki Aycox back to play her, and she played that role really well. She is Meg for me. I didn't like the switch in actresses for Ruby.



What is the significance behind Dean's pendant?I wondered that too until I finally saw A Very SPN Christmas...which is one of my absolute favorite episodes. I don't really think there is anymore to it than what was presented in that episode...it simply holds great sentimental value for Dean rather than some kind of actual mojo like Bobby told Sam it did. I guess they could reveal something else about it, but what it represents to Dean is really all that I care about.:)


Is the boy from The Kids are alright really NOT Dean's son?I'm going with what the episode said. Though I suppose they could revisit that.


Why did Jessica's ghost appear to Sam - I think it was in Heart?The only time I remember him seeing her was in S1's Bloody Mary when he was feeling guilty about seeing her death before hand and not doing/saying anything about it. I'm not really sure that was her actual ghost but just the guilt Sam put on himself. That was the secret he was hiding and him "seeing" her was to imply that since he didn't tell Dean about the dreams until a later episode.

Crichiel
September 3rd, 2009, 12:33 PM
I thought that I read in the season 1 companion book or something that Eric Kripke said there was something specific that DEAN was hiding that made HIS eyes bleed in Bloody Mary. I would like to know what that was.

I suppose this wouldn't count as something I'd like to SEE, more hear: I would like the show to be given enough of a budget this year that they don't have to cut corners by cutting down the classic rock. That's annoying to me that they can't get enugh funds to cover something so basic, but so important to the tone of the show. :(

I'd like to see less (read: zero) of the Ghostfacers. I thought their episodes were fine, but they've served their purpose for me and any more would just be obnoxious.

And naturally, I'd give anything to see John Winchester....but only if he is played by Jeffrey Dean Morgan. However, I know that his schedule is what's stopped him so far, and if you look him up on IMDB, I don't think he'll have any more free time this season than he has in the past. He is a busy busy man. :(:(:(

starg8fans
September 5th, 2009, 07:14 AM
I thought that I read in the season 1 companion book or something that Eric Kripke said there was something specific that DEAN was hiding that made HIS eyes bleed in Bloody Mary. I would like to know what that was.

I suppose this wouldn't count as something I'd like to SEE, more hear: I would like the show to be given enough of a budget this year that they don't have to cut corners by cutting down the classic rock. That's annoying to me that they can't get enugh funds to cover something so basic, but so important to the tone of the show. :(

I'd like to see less (read: zero) of the Ghostfacers. I thought their episodes were fine, but they've served their purpose for me and any more would just be obnoxious.

And naturally, I'd give anything to see John Winchester....but only if he is played by Jeffrey Dean Morgan. However, I know that his schedule is what's stopped him so far, and if you look him up on IMDB, I don't think he'll have any more free time this season than he has in the past. He is a busy busy man. :(:(:(

Agree with you on all counts. As for point 2 - OMG, has it really come to this? :eek: Those CW execs deserve to be SHOT.

Andron posted the link to a Jensen interview in a French mag, and one of the questions was:

Series Mag : What kind of episode would you like the writers to write ?

Jensen : An episode that would take place in the far west ! A real western ! Kind of like John Fordís type ! But with demons instead of Indians ! Thereís a whole mythology surrounding the weapon created by Colt so the writers could definitely send Sam & Dean in the past ! The advantage of playing in Supernatural is the fact that everythingís possible ! I really hope to see the brothers riding horses to chase demons before the end of the series !

Now, that I would like to see!

Andron
September 5th, 2009, 07:42 AM
Andron posted the link to a Jensen interview in a French mag, and one of the questions was:

Series Mag : What kind of episode would you like the writers to write ?

Jensen : An episode that would take place in the far west ! A real western ! Kind of like John Fordís type ! But with demons instead of Indians ! Thereís a whole mythology surrounding the weapon created by Colt so the writers could definitely send Sam & Dean in the past ! The advantage of playing in Supernatural is the fact that everythingís possible ! I really hope to see the brothers riding horses to chase demons before the end of the series !

Now, that I would like to see!

As would I! A full on western episode would be just awesome! :cool:
Wasn't there once talk about a possible Supernatural spinoff show about Samuel Colt? I'd like to see that too!

starg8fans
September 5th, 2009, 10:06 AM
As would I! A full on western episode would be just awesome! :cool:
Wasn't there once talk about a possible Supernatural spinoff show about Samuel Colt? I'd like to see that too!

For just about every other show I'd be hesitant to wish for an AU Western episode, because they can turn out really bad. But I'd love to see Kripke's take on it.

That would be a fantastic spin-off. I'm not a big TV watcher, so I'm definitely no expert, but I don't think there's been a western show for like... forever? I remember when I grew up, there were dozens of them - Bonanza, The Virginian, Big Valley, Gunsmoke. Maybe Brokeback Mountain has scared all the writers, producers etc. away?

StevetheWraith!
September 5th, 2009, 10:35 AM
I heard that while Kripke originally intended the show to last for 5 seasons, there's a strong possibility that additional seasons will continue Supernatural beyond this current Saga (Seasons 1-5) according to an interview i read (I think it was on IGN)

A spinoff with Colt would be insanely cool!

Anybody remember Daddy?! Seriously if this is to be the last Season then TPTB def. need to be bring Papa Hunter back for one last Hurrah/Battle/Sacrifice! This is the mother of all requests I have for S5. From what I've read it's shaping up to be a wicked Season. Man I loved the recent trailer!

starg8fans
September 5th, 2009, 11:17 AM
I heard that while Kripke originally intended the show to last for 5 seasons, there's a strong possibility that additional seasons will continue Supernatural beyond this current Saga (Seasons 1-5) according to an interview i read (I think it was on IGN)

A spinoff with Colt would be insanely cool!

Anybody remember Daddy?! Seriously if this is to be the last Season then TPTB def. need to be bring Papa Hunter back for one last Hurrah/Battle/Sacrifice! This is the mother of all requests I have for S5. From what I've read it's shaping up to be a wicked Season. Man I loved the recent trailer!

Yup, a sixth season is a possibility now, and I'm thrilled to hear it.

They're trying to bring JDM back, Kripke said they'd love to have him, but he's so insanely busy with other movies and shows that it's a question of scheduling. But I'm right there with you, that's another loose end that needs tying up. John escaped from hell when the devil's gate opened, but where is his spirit now? He couldn't just have dissolved into thin air, could he? That would be a pretty weak ending for such a great character.

Crichiel
September 6th, 2009, 11:09 AM
Another small point I would like covered (after watching Lucifer Rising again last night). I want it to be said, or at least implied that:
Sam knows that phone message from "Dean" wasn't him

starg8fans
September 6th, 2009, 07:17 PM
Another small point I would like covered (after watching Lucifer Rising again last night). I want it to be said, or at least implied that:
Sam knows that phone message from "Dean" wasn't him

That's a good one. You're right, there's one more unresolved issue. I'm pretty sure it will be addressed, because Kripke said S5 will be about reconciling the two brothers.

Oh, and one more thing. I would like to see the trickster again. His last (rather cryptic) words to Sam in Mystery Spot were:

TRICKSTER: I swear, it's like talking to a brick wall. Okay, look, this all stopped being fun months ago. You're Travis Bickle in a skirt pal, I'm over it.

SAM: Meaning what?

TRICKSTER: Meaning that's for me to know, and you to find out.

I had to google that name to find out that this is the main character in Taxi Driver. But even now I'm confused.

Andron
September 7th, 2009, 04:06 AM
That's a good one. You're right, there's one more unresolved issue. I'm pretty sure it will be addressed, because Kripke said S5 will be about reconciling the two brothers.

Oh, and one more thing. I would like to see the trickster again. His last (rather cryptic) words to Sam in Mystery Spot were:

TRICKSTER: I swear, it's like talking to a brick wall. Okay, look, this all stopped being fun months ago. You're Travis Bickle in a skirt pal, I'm over it.

SAM: Meaning what?

TRICKSTER: Meaning that's for me to know, and you to find out.

I had to google that name to find out that this is the main character in Taxi Driver. But even now I'm confused.

The trickster will be back http://huntersaddict.wordpress.com/2009/08/15/guess-whos-back/

starg8fans
September 7th, 2009, 05:01 AM
The trickster will be back http://huntersaddict.wordpress.com/2009/08/15/guess-whos-back/

Thanks for this, Andron! That was quick confirmation. And the ComiCon report was interesting too, since it confirmed that they will reveal who changed Dean's message on Sam's phone. It's funny, I always assumed it was Zach, but there were other factions who wanted to drive a wedge between the brothers - and Ruby was taunting Sam, trying to get him to listen to it...

LoneStar1836
September 7th, 2009, 08:22 AM
I thought that I read in the season 1 companion book or something that Eric Kripke said there was something specific that DEAN was hiding that made HIS eyes bleed in Bloody Mary. I would like to know what that was.Now that I'd like answered, and I think they might eventually get around to that.


Oh, and one more thing. I would like to see the trickster again. His last (rather cryptic) words to Sam in Mystery Spot were:

TRICKSTER: I swear, it's like talking to a brick wall. Okay, look, this all stopped being fun months ago. You're Travis Bickle in a skirt pal, I'm over it.

SAM: Meaning what?

TRICKSTER: Meaning that's for me to know, and you to find out.

I had to google that name to find out that this is the main character in Taxi Driver. But even now I'm confused.Have you ever watched Taxi Driver? :D That is one bizarre movie...though I suppose that's par for 70s movies. lol.

Best I can get from that is that Sam had become so fixated on the Trickster that it became down right scary as evident by his actions and even the Trickster didn't quite find that amusing anymore.

DeNiro's character in Taxi Driver was a socially inept loner who became fixated on things he viewed as wrong and turned into a lunatic eventually resorting to murder and then attempting to kill himself. Heh, though at the end of the movie he was heralded as a hero because the people he murdered were scum, but no one knew just how crazy Bickle really was.

Anyway I think it was a hint as to Sam's future fixation on Lilith and the path of destruction he would resort to to get his revenge. :)

starg8fans
September 7th, 2009, 09:31 AM
Now that I'd like answered, and I think they might eventually get around to that.

That's right, that was bugging me no end as well!


Have you ever watched Taxi Driver? :D That is one bizarre movie...though I suppose that's par for 70s movies. lol.

Best I can get from that is that Sam had become so fixated on the Trickster that it became down right scary as evident by his actions and even the Trickster didn't quite find that amusing anymore.

DeNiro's character in Taxi Driver was a socially inept loner who became fixated on things he viewed as wrong and turned into a lunatic eventually resorting to murder and then attempting to kill himself. Heh, though at the end of the movie he was heralded as a hero because the people he murdered were scum, but no one knew just how crazy Bickle really was.

Anyway I think it was a hint as to Sam's future fixation on Lilith and the path of destruction he would resort to to get his revenge. :)

No, never watched it - and after your description I don't think I want to. Psychos on killing sprees is not really my thing. :S

Your argument makes a lot of sense, Sam's single mindedness in going after Lilith, disregarding all arguments. And the fact that Bickle was made into a hero although he was doing something horrible, that sounds like a parallel to Sam freeing Lucifer. He's certainly a hero to the demon world now. If the Trickster was warning him against going down that path, it means that he's not pro-Lucifer. So he could be a possible ally for them in S5. That would be a change. Don't quite get the reference to the skirt, though.

LoneStar1836
September 7th, 2009, 05:23 PM
No, never watched it - and after your description I don't think I want to. Psychos on killing sprees is not really my thing. :S It's a very weird movie, imo, but it gets referenced a lot. I had never seen it either until a couple of months ago...so now finally I can get those references. It's infamous for being connected to John Hinckley, Jr. who tried to assassinate President Reagan in '81 in order to impress Jodie Foster who was in Taxi Driver.


Your argument makes a lot of sense, Sam's single mindedness in going after Lilith, disregarding all arguments. And the fact that Bickle was made into a hero although he was doing something horrible, that sounds like a parallel to Sam freeing Lucifer. He's certainly a hero to the demon world now. If the Trickster was warning him against going down that path, it means that he's not pro-Lucifer. So he could be a possible ally for them in S5. That would be a change. Don't quite get the reference to the skirt, though.I never really viewed the Trickster as an outright bad guy so yeah I agree with you there. He might serve as an ally when they run across him again.

As to the reference to the skirt...my take...the show uses Sam as the butt of a joke, calling into question his masculinity. That was just another one. Dean can get away with the girl jokes about Sam, but it's a bit overboard, imo, when other characters get in on the act.

flameling
September 7th, 2009, 05:42 PM
I dont know about every one else, but I want to se the full extent of what the angels can do. Oh and I want to see Castiel kill Zach. It would be deserved.

starg8fans
September 7th, 2009, 10:59 PM
It's a very weird movie, imo, but it gets referenced a lot. I had never seen it either until a couple of months ago...so now finally I can get those references. It's infamous for being connected to John Hinckley, Jr. who tried to assassinate President Regan in '81 in order to impress Jodie Foster who was in Taxi Driver.

It got referenced in Spn too. In Folsom Prison Blues there's this exchange after this guy bumps into Sam:

LUCAS: You talkiní to me? [No response] Are you talkiní to me?

DEAN: Oh, great, another guy whose seen 'Taxi Driver' one too many times. Yeah, Iím talkiní to you.


I never really viewed the Trickster as an outright bad guy so yeah I agree with you there. He might serve as an ally when they run across him again.

No, he's not a bad guy, Dean seemed genuinely sorry he had to gank him in Tall Tales. There's still a difference to actually working with the guy. That would be a nice twist.


As to the reference to the skirt...my take...the show uses Sam as the butt of a joke, calling into question his masculinity. That was just another one. Dean can get away with the girl jokes about Sam, but it's a bit overboard, imo, when other characters get in on the act.

ITA, especially since at that point it was singularly inappropriate, considering how Sam had turned out in the 6 months after Dean had died.


I dont know about every one else, but I want to se the full extent of what the angels can do. Oh and I want to see Castiel kill Zach. It would be deserved.

That's a good one. Uriel was always bragging about smiting or turning people to dust, but when he fought it was just with his fists. Which I find somewhat incongruous, given that angels are supposed to be almost omnipotent. And I'm sure they'll think of a suitable outcome for Zach. He's the guy you love to hate in the show, isn't he?

Crichiel
September 9th, 2009, 10:56 AM
It got referenced in Spn too. In Folsom Prison Blues there's this exchange after this guy bumps into Sam:

LUCAS: You talkiní to me? [No response] Are you talkiní to me?

DEAN: Oh, great, another guy whose seen 'Taxi Driver' one too many times. Yeah, Iím talkiní to you.



No, he's not a bad guy, Dean seemed genuinely sorry he had to gank him in Tall Tales. There's still a difference to actually working with the guy. That would be a nice twist.



ITA, especially since at that point it was singularly inappropriate, considering how Sam had turned out in the 6 months after Dean had died.



That's a good one. Uriel was always bragging about smiting or turning people to dust, but when he fought it was just with his fists. Which I find somewhat incongruous, given that angels are supposed to be almost omnipotent. And I'm sure they'll think of a suitable outcome for Zach. He's the guy you love to hate in the show, isn't he?

I love that I just plain loved Zachariah the first time we saw him in It's A Terrible Life. Then we see this completely different side of him. What a cool development for his character in so short a time. Now I DO love to hate him, so I am not TOO eager to kill him off so quickly. I would like to have him around a while yet, and THEN see him get his comeuppance! :)

starg8fans
September 10th, 2009, 05:31 AM
I love that I just plain loved Zachariah the first time we saw him in It's A Terrible Life. Then we see this completely different side of him. What a cool development for his character in so short a time. Now I DO love to hate him, so I am not TOO eager to kill him off so quickly. I would like to have him around a while yet, and THEN see him get his comeuppance! :)

Oh, I wasn't talking about killing Zach off quickly, I'd love to have him around the whole season, just to watch Dean going ballistic every time they meet. :D BTW, I loved Dean's snark about 'The sweet (suite?) life of Zach and Cas' in Lucifer Rising. Luckily my kids love(d) that show, so I got the joke. I'm not really up-to-date with kids' programmin nowadays, and anyway they're called something different on German TV. I don't even want to begin to think how they'll translate that for the dubbed version.

Something else I'd like to see in S5: a flashback to when the boys were younger that explains why Bobby threatened to blast John full of buckshot the last time they met, had his shotgun cocked already, as Dean said in Devil's Trap.

Andron
September 10th, 2009, 05:37 AM
Something else I'd like to see in S5: a flashback to when the boys were younger that explains why Bobby threatened to blast John full of buckshot the last time they met, had his shotgun cocked already, as Dean said in Devil's Trap.
Oh, that's something I would also be interested to see!

starg8fans
September 10th, 2009, 05:49 AM
Oh, that's something I would also be interested to see!

There are a few fanfics out there that address this question, but I'd like to hear Kripke's take on it.

Andron
September 10th, 2009, 05:57 AM
There are a few fanfics out there that address this question, but I'd like to hear Kripke's take on it.

I don't read fan fiction. I better stay with the real episodes, Kripke's take on it.

starg8fans
September 10th, 2009, 06:15 AM
I don't read fan fiction. I better stay with the real episodes, Kripke's take on it.

A lot of it is really well written, and it helped me through the hellatus...

flameling
September 12th, 2009, 07:01 AM
For the record I meant at the end of the season. With all Zach's done I have a feeling he'll die. I just feel that it would be just for Cass to get the honors.

starg8fans
September 12th, 2009, 10:13 PM
The supernatural.tv site did a poll who fans would like to see portray God. What would you say? After watching 5.01 I personally lean towards Cas. It would make sense, God going undercover to quell this angel rebellion. It would also explain how Cas came back in his (previously destroyed) meatsuit.

LoneStar1836
September 13th, 2009, 12:45 PM
Interesting theory there. Though I would much rather that be Cas most of the time and maybe God pops down, delivers a couple of lines of dialogue and then is gone again. As far as who to play God, I think Morgan Freeman is a bit too expensive for this show. :D

Anna also came back in her previously destroyed form after she said something about pulling some strings with connections she had.



As I was rewatching season 4, In one of the eps Alistair snarked about wanting to know the history of the demon killing knife...where it came from. Well I'd like to know as well.

starg8fans
September 13th, 2009, 12:52 PM
Interesting theory there. Though I would much rather that be Cas most of the time and maybe God pops down, delivers a couple of lines of dialogue and then is gone again. As far as who to play God, I think Morgan Freeman is a bit too expensive for this show. :D

I agree Morgan Freeman would be awesome. I think his portrayal set the standard for playing God.


As I was rewatching season 4, In one of the eps Alistair snarked about wanting to know the history of the demon killing knife...where it came from. Well I'd like to know as well.

That's a good one. You're right, we have no clue where it came from, and how it got its powers. Let's hope they'll devulge that.

One question I'd like to have answered will be addressed in 5.04 - the demonic virus from Croatoan. At the end of that ep it became quite clear that the town had been a 'test run' but we weren't told for what. Also, it wasn't clear why it was so important that Samwouldn't be affectedso there must be a plan for him too.

starg8fans
September 19th, 2009, 10:59 PM
Until now, I must say the writers have done a stellar job of getting on with answering our questions.

But what I'd like to see now is the re-conciliation of the brothers. I know they'll need time - especially Dean - to get over Sam's betrayal, but at least they should be together, not Sam going off on his own.

And I want Bobby out of that wheelchair. This should so not be the price he has to pay for saving Dean's life. And it would just be something else to weigh on Dean and make him feel guilty, tainting his relationship to his surrogate Dad.

Jitter
September 19th, 2009, 11:50 PM
I'd like to see John again but I guess if he is in he's in he'll only be in as a flashback or hallucination etc. :(

starg8fans
September 20th, 2009, 01:47 AM
I'd like to see John again but I guess if he is in he's in he'll only be in as a flashback or hallucination etc. :(

Not necessarily. We know that his soul escaped from hell when the Devil's gate was opened in All Hell Breaks Loose, Part 2. So his spirit may be roaming the earth, trying to find a way to rest. Once he figures out what that is, he could very well call on his sons to help him achieve it.

Jitter
September 21st, 2009, 03:09 AM
I'd like to see old school exorcisms. You know the epic sexy kind that Sam does without a prayer book *sw00n*

Jitter
September 21st, 2009, 03:10 AM
starg8fans you're probably right but I prefer imagining him in heaven with Mary after all he's been through x)

It would be awesome to see both of them join the battle though ;D

starg8fans
September 21st, 2009, 12:35 PM
I'd like to see old school exorcisms. You know the epic sexy kind that Sam does without a prayer book *sw00n*

Yes, I'd love to see the boys spouting Latin again! Somehow that was so cool.


starg8fans you're probably right but I prefer imagining him in heaven with Mary after all he's been through x)

It would be awesome to see both of them join the battle though ;D

Yes, that would be a much nicer picture...

Let's hope that JDM can fit it into his busy schedule. *crosses fingers*

starg8fans
September 26th, 2009, 01:16 AM
Totally shallow and fangirly, I know, but now the Sam thunkers got a shirtless scene I want one with Dean as well! :o

Crichiel
September 26th, 2009, 07:49 PM
Totally shallow and fangirly, I know, but now the Sam thunkers got a shirtless scene I want one with Dean as well! :o

HELL yeah! I'll take that one! ;)

I would like to see a couple old-fashioned hunts mixed in with all the arc-heavy episodes. Not so many that the main story arc's development suffers, but a couple Classic Supernatural horror eps.

starg8fans
September 26th, 2009, 08:36 PM
HELL yeah! I'll take that one! ;)

I would like to see a couple old-fashioned hunts mixed in with all the arc-heavy episodes. Not so many that the main story arc's development suffers, but a couple Classic Supernatural horror eps.

That would be good, yes. Kinda back to the basics. Of course they have quite a story to tell this season, but all the Angels and Demons stuff could get kinda old if it's all we get for 22 episodes.

Which begs the question - what kind of supernatural beings are still out there that haven't been used? I was thinking 'Wraith' (not the SGA kind, LOL!), but when I googled it I found out it's just a Scottish expression for 'ghost' or 'spirit'. Otherwise I the only things I can think of are maybe Pixies (which don't sound very scary), or wood or water nymphs (more Vancouver forests - unless one of the latter settles in a water tank!). But then I'm no expert on horror.

Betelgeuze
September 26th, 2009, 10:42 PM
I would like to see Michael trying to convince Dean to be his vessel. So far we have seen Zacharia and Raphael trying to coerce Dean in to becoming Michael's vessel but we've heard nothing from Michael himself, and there's supposed to be an open phone line between an angel and his vessel, so what's keeping Michael from giving Dean a call?

Crichiel
September 29th, 2009, 10:55 AM
I'd like to see the boys being totally honest with each other (e.g. Sam TELL Dean that you are supposed to be Lucifer's vessel, please!)

marielabbott
October 18th, 2009, 03:43 PM
We've seen a number of episodes that focus heavily on the Dean/Castiel relationship...I think it'd be good to see one that focused on Sam/Castiel. Especially after the tension displayed between them in the latest ep. They need to work some things out, and I think it would be really interesting to see.

Epideme
October 25th, 2009, 05:17 AM
I know it's slightly off topic but I'd like to see them happy for once. End everything on a high because I just can't see them being hurt anymore. Dean crying out for Sam at the end of season 3 tore me up, and when you see them in What Is and What Should Never Be, happy, and as a family, even without John, they were together. Sam and Jess engaged, their mum alive. Happy. Why can't they kill Lucifer/save the world and drive off into the sunset in the Impala? I know it seems cliched and contrite but why not? That's definitely one thing they haven't done yet...
*crosses fingers and toes*

Epideme
...On topic, I would like to have some answers. But then what would we have to talk about on here? We'd know everything and have nothing to speculate about. So let them keep secrets and let the Brothers Grimm live a little, please don't kill them off!!

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