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DigiFluid
August 22nd, 2009, 09:35 PM
When Nathan first came onto the show....I hated him. 'Right as Raynes' helped a bit for me, but I didn't really warm up to him till the snarky banter later in season 2 and early in season 3.

Come his death in season 3, I was really upset to see him go. And from what I hear, he will not be returning at any point in season 3. Adios, Stark :(

Everlovin
August 23rd, 2009, 06:04 AM
I disliked him clear up until Right as Raynes. That put a very human layer on him and I liked him from then on.

Still sad to see him go.

What's the spoiler policy for EUReKA, btw? Is season 3.0 fair game or do we need spoilers?

Everlovin
August 25th, 2009, 02:49 PM
Well, I guess I'm going to add on to my own discussion. I think that with Stark gone, there is an important element of EUReKA missing. One of the great things was the snark between Jack and Nathan. I miss the "I hate you even though I kinda like you" element.

Grifff
August 27th, 2009, 06:12 AM
me too i was very sad to see him killed off

Killdeer
August 28th, 2009, 08:42 AM
Well, I guess I'm going to add on to my own discussion. I think that with Stark gone, there is an important element of EUReKA missing. One of the great things was the snark between Jack and Nathan. I miss the "I hate you even though I kinda like you" element.

I agree. For awhile Zane kind of picked up that role, but even Zane's been downplayed this half of the season (which I find a little odd).

I'm conflicted - I actually do hope they bring Nathan back eventually. But I also do understand and agree with most of the arguments about resurrecting dead characters all the time. And I would hate to see him brought back just to be killed off again like Kim was (well, Kim 2.0). And after what happened with Carson in SGA, I've kind of developed a "be careful what you wish for" policy. :( In spite of all of that, I still can't keep from wishing that Nathan could be written back in somehow, eventually down the road. :o

I just read this week that Ed Quinn has taken a role on the new CW show The Beautiful Life. So....I suppose depending on how that does, and how regular of a role it is might determine his availability for any appearances in S4. When do they start shooting S4 anyway? I thought it was in the spring - is that right?

Arctic Goddess
September 2nd, 2009, 05:56 PM
I was very fortunate to have lunch with Ed Quinn at Comic Con in July. He told me that he was very frustrated with what happened to his character in Season 2. He said the creator of the series, a good friend of his, left the show, and the people who took over afterward sent his character in a different dirrection, which he didn't like. He does have a 6 year contract with eureka, so, he said it's very likely he will be back.

By the way, he's a charming man... but unfortunately, he's married.

Killdeer
September 2nd, 2009, 06:08 PM
I was very fortunate to have lunch with Ed Quinn at Comic Con in July. He told me that he was very frustrated with what happened to his character in Season 2. He said the creator of the series, a good friend of his, left the show, and the people who took over afterward sent his character in a different dirrection, which he didn't like. He does have a 6 year contract with eureka, so, he said it's very likely he will be back.

By the way, he's a charming man... but unfortunately, he's married.

Oh that's cool that you got to have lunch with him. :) I'd read that actually - in some interview or something after I Do Over aired - that he wasn't happy about the direction his character went. From what I read, he wanted Nathan to go more darkside.

I hadn't heard, though, about the six year contract, and the good possibility of him coming back. That's interesting.

Killdeer
September 27th, 2009, 08:57 AM
The CW's The Beautiful Life was the first cancellation of the season this year, after only two episodes. Ed Quinn was supposed to appear on the show as a recurring character, playing the husband of Elle Macpherson's character, but I doubt that any of his episodes will ever air now (that's assuming they even got to film them).

Personally, I wouldn't have watched anyway - the show was definitely not my style - but I thought Ed Quinn fans might be interested.

DigiFluid
September 27th, 2009, 10:27 AM
I was very fortunate to have lunch with Ed Quinn at Comic Con in July. He told me that he was very frustrated with what happened to his character in Season 2. He said the creator of the series, a good friend of his, left the show, and the people who took over afterward sent his character in a different dirrection, which he didn't like. He does have a 6 year contract with eureka, so, he said it's very likely he will be back.

By the way, he's a charming man... but unfortunately, he's married.

I wonder who he's talking about here. Andrew Cosby and Jaime Paglia are the series creators, and they're both still involved with the show :confused:

Killdeer
September 27th, 2009, 10:46 AM
According to this interview (which was posted right after I Do Over), Ed's talking about Andrew Cosby, and it makes it sound like Andrew hasn't been involved with the show since S1. In a recent interview with Jamie Ray Newman, they listed Jamie Paglia and Charlie Craig as show creators - no mention of Cosby.

http://www.visiteureka.net/interviews.html?i=21


[Ed Quinn] But shows change and this show changed considerably after Andrew Cosby's departure ... suddenly there wasn't much need for conflict ... not much need for that kind of dynamic between the characters. In addition, Nathan Stark was created to carry the serial aspects of the show ... the mythology. With all of those story lines ending or being abandoned (The Consortium. The Artifact. Kevin. Global Dynamics as a somewhat dark, somewhat sinister and secretive research facility) With all of that changing, Stark really didn't have much to do anymore but stand around with a clipboard, apologizing for his past behavior.

VisitEureka.net - He was almost de-fanged.

Ed - He was. He was almost de-fanged. There's another analogy we can use, but de-fanged is probably the best one. (laughs) We'll leave it at that.

MIZA
September 28th, 2009, 03:35 PM
According to this interview (which was posted right after I Do Over), Ed's talking about Andrew Cosby, and it makes it sound like Andrew hasn't been involved with the show since S1. In a recent interview with Jamie Ray Newman, they listed Jamie Paglia and Charlie Craig as show creators - no mention of Cosby.

http://www.visiteureka.net/interviews.html?i=21




hey i am confused is season 3 over with ? and we are moving on to season 4 later on right ?

and about Nathan Stark( Ed Quinn) yeah that sucks how are you going to give someone a 6 year contract and they are not on the show ? what a bunch of jerks!!

Ian-S
September 30th, 2009, 07:44 AM
well at least he get's paid :)

season 3.0 and 3.5 have aired in US & UK yes, season 4 won't hit our screens until I'm guessing, late 2010.

CaptJanson
December 5th, 2009, 12:24 PM
I was very fortunate to have lunch with Ed Quinn at Comic Con in July. He told me that he was very frustrated with what happened to his character in Season 2. He said the creator of the series, a good friend of his, left the show, and the people who took over afterward sent his character in a different dirrection, which he didn't like. He does have a 6 year contract with eureka, so, he said it's very likely he will be back.

By the way, he's a charming man... but unfortunately, he's married.

I very much hope he comes back - he is by far my favorite char on Eureka.

DigiFluid
December 5th, 2009, 12:31 PM
well at least he get's paid :)

season 3.0 and 3.5 have aired in US & UK yes, season 4 won't hit our screens until I'm guessing, late 2010.
Well considering it's almost 2010 now and I don't even think they've started filming yet.... ;)

Arctic Goddess
December 5th, 2009, 04:22 PM
I very much hope he comes back - he is by far my favorite char on Eureka.

I'm trying to convince Ed to get his own web pade started. If so, I'll make sure he lets everyone know about the future of his character on Eureka, if any. So, wish me luck on talking him into this.

FromOutside
December 7th, 2009, 03:02 AM
Stark was my no. 1 favorite from the beginning :) He was well written... Not overly heroic and likable 'good guy' like Henry and many other characters, but not classical 'bad guy' either, even when he clearly had some thirst for power and so on. Also dialogues he had part of were often hilarious.

So no surprise, I was very disappointed when he went and died. But I don't wish him back. Eureka isn't sci-fi enough to make it happen, not with remotely plausible way. Not that too many other things in Eureka can be labeled as even remotely plausible, and even when I am trying to do my best with not thinking it, sometimes it is just too difficult and ruins the episode.

prion
January 25th, 2010, 08:20 AM
Does Ed have a twitter account?

SGTB1991
April 17th, 2010, 09:39 AM
When Nathan first came onto the show....I hated him. 'Right as Raynes' helped a bit for me, but I didn't really warm up to him till the snarky banter later in season 2 and early in season 3.

Come his death in season 3, I was really upset to see him go. And from what I hear, he will not be returning at any point in season 3. Adios, Stark :(

I agree!! I really didn't like Nathan at all, but once he died, the show kind of lost something...

Kermee
April 22nd, 2010, 02:30 PM
I really loved Stark on Eureka, and he's great looking too! Unfortunately, I don't think Ed Quinn will ever come back :(, because






James Callis (BSG) is joining Eureka. A "Stark 2.0" ?

Rose "Snapjinx" McKnight
May 13th, 2010, 08:24 PM
So I'm a brand new fan. Actually, started by watching all of season three because that's what was available to me. And I absolutely fell in love with Nathan.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but he died in a time distortion/parallel universe/cosmic rift type thing, yes? Seems like that'd be very easy to bring him back from. Like, he didn't actually die, he was just...transported and is trying to fight his way back. Fargo even says "He's gone" not "He's dead."

I think the show will suffer without the aspect of ambition and cool logic he brings to it. Plus, if Jack and Allison finally fall for each other and Nathan comes back.... Well, you have to admit it'd be interesting.

Everlovin
May 14th, 2010, 04:50 AM
The best thing that I can think of to potentially bring Nathan back - and it's been a while since I've seen "I Do, Again" - but wasn't it something like they ultra black light (or whatever) was moving faster than the speed of light/time/something? Maybe at some point in the future "time" will catch up to when Nathan is.

marielabbott
May 14th, 2010, 04:49 PM
Yes, unfortunately Nathan is well and truly dead. :( It's my understanding that Ed Quinn wished to leave the show, and the writers wrote his character out this way. Unless something has radically changed behind the scenes that I haven't heard about, there are no plans to bring Nathan back. The witty banter between Carter and Stark was one of my favorite things about Eureka, and I miss it. :(

Everlovin
May 14th, 2010, 06:47 PM
That was one of the things I do miss. The adversarial relationship between Jack and Nathan.

Killdeer
July 9th, 2010, 01:33 PM
This was from an entry linked on the Eureka Newletter LJ comm (http://community.livejournal.com/eureka_newslttr/). (possibly spoilers for s4)


Confirmed: Ed Quinn did visit Vancouver and the Eureka set, but whether for shooting or just a visit with friends our source couldn’t say.

LINK (http://community.livejournal.com/starks_lab/39070.html) (There's more spoilery information at the link, though not about this, and a couple of pics from the set of tonight's episode.)

DigiFluid
July 9th, 2010, 02:50 PM
Hmm.

I'd really love to see Nathan come back to the show. Even though his exit was excellent.

Killdeer
July 9th, 2010, 09:28 PM
Obviously I am not reading these articles closely enough. I completely missed this tidbit from an article I posted earlier today, until someone pointed it out. (season 4 spoilers behind the cut)


Who else is guesting this season?
We've got Jaime Kennedy and Wil Wheaton—it's really nice to see him playing a bearded, mean, grumpy scientist. Ed Quinn (Stark!) comes back this year (yeah, I mean, not—in his own way). And Matt Frewer (Taggart) comes back. I believe we did a Christmas episode with Matt.

From Watch with Kristen (E! Online): Eureka: The Best Show on TV You're Not Watching (but We've Got a Cure for That!) (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b189263_eureka_best_show_on_tv_youre_not.html)

MIZA
July 11th, 2010, 05:56 PM
OMG he is coming back ?, thats is going to be so weird,i feel so sad for Carter

Arctic Goddess
August 17th, 2010, 02:00 PM
I got an email from Ed Quinn a week ago. He's back for one episode. He didn't give me any details about it, but he told me it was episode 8. And that is an exclusive. No one else knows this bit of information.

Dreyth
December 1st, 2010, 04:39 PM
I once heard someone refer to this sort of phenomenon as the "Albus Dumbledore Law", meaning that if the characters never saw the body, and never buried it, then the character isn't actually "dead".

Whether or not that means that he will ever return to the show as a permanent character is another thing entirely.

Everlovin
March 24th, 2012, 01:37 PM
The kids spent this last week watching all the eps on Netflix and I so missed Nathan and all his snarkiness.

I even missed the Nathan/Allison ship.

*sigh*

Everlovin
March 27th, 2012, 12:18 PM
I'm not sure. I wasn't looking at the tv, but I could have sworn that I heard Nathan in the commercial for the new season! Woot! Here's hoping!

DigiFluid
March 28th, 2012, 09:02 AM
I once heard someone refer to this sort of phenomenon as the "Albus Dumbledore Law", meaning that if the characters never saw the body, and never buried it, then the character isn't actually "dead".

Whether or not that means that he will ever return to the show as a permanent character is another thing entirely.

Pshaw. Someone trying to give Potter credit for a longstanding trope of many genres? This will not stand!

Gen. Chris
March 28th, 2012, 09:23 AM
I once heard someone refer to this sort of phenomenon as the "Albus Dumbledore Law", meaning that if the characters never saw the body, and never buried it, then the character isn't actually "dead".

Whether or not that means that he will ever return to the show as a permanent character is another thing entirely.

That's more well known as the "Marvel Comic Death" law...Essentially, no body, no death.

Everlovin
March 28th, 2012, 05:28 PM
It used to work in soap operas. I don't watch soaps anymore so I don't know if it still holds true.