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    In Season 1 McKay said that Atlantis had a number of defensive systems beyond the shield and that the chair was their best bet. They also said that power was the problem.

    Now, with 3 zpms, power is no longer a problem. Why didn't we see Atlantis's other weaponry? All they fired were a few drones.(and not a whole bunch like the Antarctic outpost did)

    Does anyone else feel like this is a HUGE copout?
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    #2
    Originally posted by Aer'ki View Post
    In Season 1 McKay said that Atlantis had a number of defensive systems beyond the shield and that the chair was their best bet. They also said that power was the problem.

    Now, with 3 zpms, power is no longer a problem. Why didn't we see Atlantis's other weaponry? All they fired were a few drones.(and not a whole bunch like the Antarctic outpost did)

    Does anyone else feel like this is a HUGE copout?
    indeed i remember the comment made by McKay i considder this yet another of the yet increasing nr of plotholes left by the Tptb frankly i think holes like this makes the franchise and the writers look stupid!

    Btw the weapons you wrote that atlantis had in your fic does to me sound like the weapons it should have!

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      #3
      Originally posted by Omnipotent View Post
      indeed i remember the comment made by McKay i considder this yet another of the yet increasing nr of plotholes left by the Tptb frankly i think holes like this makes the franchise and the writers look stupid!

      Btw the weapons you wrote that atlantis had in your fic does to me sound like the weapons it should have!
      Check your literary terminology. Just because they didn't answer your question about other Ancient defense weapons doesn't make it a plot hole. How did this lack of weapons make the plot or story arc illogical?
      Originally posted by aretood2
      Jelgate is right

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        #4
        Originally posted by jelgate View Post
        Check your literary terminology. Just because they didn't answer your question about other Ancient defense weapons doesn't make it a plot hole. How did this lack of weapons make the plot or story arc illogical?
        Because it was originally stated that the reason they didn't have access to those weapons was power...then, in EATG, they finally have 3 zpms in Atlantis, which means they have full power. So when they attack the superhive, they should have used those weapons. Also, Atlantis's shields should also have been super powered and the Wraith attack should not have been able to drain them like it was shown, nor the descent through the atmosphere.

        These are both glaring plot holes...the city of the Ancients survived the original Siege against fleets of Wraith, and yet it can't stand toe to toe with one upgraded Hive?

        That's not a plot hole...it's a plot BLACK HOLE.
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          #5
          Maybe they were talking about the point laser def system, because thats the obly other weapon that would make sense
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            #6
            Originally posted by Aer'ki View Post
            Because it was originally stated that the reason they didn't have access to those weapons was power...then, in EATG, they finally have 3 zpms in Atlantis, which means they have full power. So when they attack the superhive, they should have used those weapons. Also, Atlantis's shields should also have been super powered and the Wraith attack should not have been able to drain them like it was shown, nor the descent through the atmosphere.
            Well we don't actually know that the weapon systems would have been fully operational with a little more power. It could have been like with the weapons satellite where we would have had no way of detecting damage to these weapons without sufficient power. And the ship has been through a hell of a lot in the past five years and it's possible that the weapons could have been destroyed. Also, considering that Asgard beam weapons were practically useless against the hive ship, it's possible that drone weapons were the only weapons they thought would have had any effect against the hive. There's also the fact that Carson Beckett was in control of the chair and his proficiency with the chair is probably worse than a five-year old Ancient boy.

            Also, the amount of strain on the Atlantis' shields from Earth's atmosphere would have been significantly greater than a normal reentry. Normally the path of reentry is calculated to minimize the resistance from the atmosphere but in this case the hive ships weapons were pushing Atlantis against the atmosphere while we were doing everything we could to stay in space so that we could keep fighting. It'd be like someone pushing you into a wall of fire while you're pushing back away from the fire instead of you just jumping through the fire as quickly as possible...

            Originally posted by Aer'ki View Post
            the city of the Ancients survived the original Siege against fleets of Wraith, and yet it can't stand toe to toe with one upgraded Hive?
            Well keep in mind that during the original siege Atlantis was fully operational and run by a bunch of Ancients. There are likely many systems in Atlantis that could have been destroyed or that we don't even know about yet; like when the Ancient captain made that control panel come out of the ground near the stargate. Also, even with 99% of their population hibernating, it would have been possible for the Wraith to have made significant technological improvements over the past 10,000 years whereas Atlantis is probably nowhere near the condition it was in during the original siege.

            It would have been nice to see new Ancient weapons but the fact that there weren't any shown is not necessarily a plot hole...

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              #7
              Well may be they drained there zpms to the level where the other weapon systems are not functional using the wormhole technology or beckett did not know how to activate them, or with all the damage Atlantis has taken in the last 5 years may be they have been destroyed or disable, how many times have atlantis been flooded, it probably way overdue for it MOT and probably in need of some serious TLC.

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