Could a Dollhouse Employee Be a Doll?

[sparklegem]

Watching episode 109, it just got me thinking. I think it was the imagery of the head of security pushing Topher into the chair. If a character we thought we knew as an employee of the Dollhouse was actually a doll, that would be a neat and unexpected twist. Or maybe it would be too contrived. What do you think?

The Dollhouse requires a lot of extremely talented specialists, and it would be much cheaper to use an active than actually pay a specialist. I think you could debate whether it would be more secure or less secure to have a doll as an employee. Maybe they wouldn't have had a doll as an employee because of their concern that the dolls were going beyond their programming.

But could Topher perhaps be a doll? He does get a lot of leniency, but that just could be because he's a genius that the Dollhouse needs to function. What about Dr. Saunders? I didn't quite catch what SpyHunter!Echo said to her tonight

Spoiler:

about her past, it was something like "The security logs show that you haven't left the dollhouse since Alpha's attack"

and while that may rule her out if I think about it, maybe once Alpha cut her she wasn't a useful doll anymore in the field so they made her useful in the Dollhouse?

[LoneStar1836]

Well I certainly wouldn't rule out that possibility...of an employee being a doll.

I don't think Topher is one though. Heh. I'll probably end up being wrong on that account, but he is slimier as a human who does this on his own free will without any tampering or hint of being tampered with.

[ShadowMaat]

If anyone in the Dollhouse is a doll, I'd say it's Adele herself. What better way to run a global conspiracy than to make sure that all the people in charge of the Houses are 110% loyal and uncorruptable?

[ZeroPoint]

Agreed that Topher probably isn't a doll. There'd be no point to program up his annoying traits and inefficiencies.

I doubt Saunders, because she still has the memory of being cut up, and that should be the first thing to wipe.

I can see some of the handlers being retired dolls though. Maybe because there's little established background on them.

After episode 109, there's an outside chance that Adelle herself is a doll.

[Ranlier]

None of the central cast (Adelle, Topher, Boyd) are dolls. They wrote out that possibility by saying "Drug X affects dolls this way and normal humans another", drawing clear distinguishing lines.

[ShadowMaat]

Oh yeah. Heh. Ah well, was a fun thought anyway. LOL!

[sparklegem]

None of the central cast (Adelle, Topher, Boyd) are dolls. They wrote out that possibility by saying "Drug X affects dolls this way and normal humans another", drawing clear distinguishing lines.

Oh yeah, that's right. I overlooked that. Good catch!

[Gregorius]

If anyone in the Dollhouse is a doll, I'd say it's Adele herself. What better way to run a global conspiracy than to make sure that all the people in charge of the Houses are 110% loyal and uncorruptable?

Or to turn your dolls into people in powerful places? Imagine a doll in charge of the white house, congress, the UN, the NSA, the FBI etc...

[Crazy Tom]

Agreed that Topher probably isn't a doll. There'd be no point to program up his annoying traits and inefficiencies.

Eeehh... near sightedness, remeber? Everythign's gotto balance.

Or to turn your dolls into people in powerful places? Imagine a doll in charge of the white house, congress, the UN, the NSA, the FBI etc...

Boom, you control the world. It's a wodner they haven't done it yet.

[Neosuchi]

Boom, you control the world. It's a wodner they haven't done it yet.

Maybe that's their purpose...maybe someone will make technology to remote install imprints (since someone obviously can remote mind wipe). Use that to remote imprint ppl to take over the whole world!!! >_>:

[ShadowMaat]

Maybe that's their purpose...maybe someone will make technology to remote install imprints (since someone obviously can remote mind wipe). Use that to remote imprint ppl to take over the whole world!!! >_>:

Yeah, but where's the fun of taking over the world if no one knows what you've done? And really, unwavering loyalty all the time would get kinda boring. Though I suppose if you wanted to risk it you could occasionally pick someone to be insubordinate. But A) You run the risk of someone successfully defeating you and B.) If you know who's going to be insubordinate it takes some of the fun out of it.

[Gregorius]

Yeah, but where's the fun of taking over the world if no one knows what you've done? And really, unwavering loyalty all the time would get kinda boring.

It's the smart thing to do. If I had Dollhouse technology I'd take over the most powerful positions by placing dolls into them and that way I'd control the population with little to no effort.

I'd be safe from anything because the population wouldn't know I was behind it and if they'd overthrow a doll I'd simply replace it with a new one, as in make the new one the leader of the uprising.

In any case, once you've got the technology, it's a quick and simple way to take over the world without anyone unimportant knowing, and if anyone figured it out you could use the technology to implant yourself with awesome skills to defend yourself.

[Hermiiod]

Yeah not Topher but it is possible someone else is. Perhaps Echoe's Handler even.

[Gregorius]

Yeah not Topher but it is possible someone else is. Perhaps Echoe's Handler even.

It can't her old handler, he was affected like a normal person by the memory drug, and her new handler wasn't even in the Dollhouse when the messages were delivered.

[Saquist]

This is a really a good question....
This is really good show...now that I've given it a try...I wouldn't doubt that they're are going to explore alot of these possibilies.

They said this show is on the chopping block...I hope Sci Fi pics it up and carries it if happens.