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GateWorld
March 25th, 2009, 07:58 PM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 511</FONT>
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After Jack refuses to help, Kate and Juliet go to great lengths to try and save young Ben Linus.

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Amalthea
April 1st, 2009, 10:11 PM
I love Lost!

Ok, so Hurley is hilarious. I love that he's the audience when it comes to all this time travel stuff. Miles seemed to be very well informed about it all, and that lead me to believe Faraday stayed with them for a little while before he ran away.

Next, I take back all the bad things I thought and said about Kate. I am so glad her coming back had nothing to do with Sawyer and that particular love quadrangle. It seems to me that that is quite dead now, thank goodness. And I'm glad that Aaron is with Clarie's mom. I would have been satisfied if he was with Cassidy, but Claire's mom is best.

Jack! Had he just been a doctor, Big Evil Ben could have been avoided! Of course, it already happened so, he was always going to be a whiny "I don't know why I'm here" guy. So, all of them, Sayid, Juliet, Jack, Kate, and Sawyer made Ben. I guess he's not going to remember being shot, as per what Richard said, but I wonder how far back will be erased?

Ok, so, great episode, lots of questions answered, more to come. Can't wait for next week!!

retiredat44
April 1st, 2009, 10:42 PM
I can't stand Kate. I really tried to like her, but she is too much trouble , she can't resist being trouble. She is always out of control and causes everyone great problems. I looked back at old episodes and from way back when she was a huge pain. If she disappears, it will not bother me one bit. Next week looks like the episode I have been wanting a very long time, and cannot wait! It looks like it is going to be a real rocker!
;)

Shan Bruce Lee
April 2nd, 2009, 04:47 AM
I didn't really care about the Kate stuff but everything else was pretty good.
I'm glad they're sticking to "whatever happened, happened."
Hurley and Miles talking about time travel was hilarious. "I'm waiting to see if I disappear"
My favorite part though, was the last scene with Ben waking up to see Locke sitting there.

Madwelshboy
April 2nd, 2009, 05:58 AM
Hurley and Miles scenes were classic! final minute was just great - im really more interested in whats going on with Locke, Ben an Sun rather than the 1970 storyline, especially in this episode and the previous one.

knowles2
April 2nd, 2009, 10:09 AM
wow an awesome episode.
Tad slow. Through.
Shame we do not know what happen to Faraday, guesting they saving that till the incident episode.
Kate story was not overall that surprising, so she felt guilty about taking Aaron from Claire and her family and denying Aaron the truth that kate is not his mother. And she there to rescue claire was a surprise. Hurley and Miles were brilliant.

Next episode is looking like Lost is going to a whole new level of awesome.

JayShadow
April 2nd, 2009, 10:39 AM
Shame we do not know what happen to Faraday, guesting they saving that till the incident episode. I think they might get back to him a few weeks sooner in The Variable

knowles2
April 2nd, 2009, 02:07 PM
I think they might get back to him a few weeks sooner in The Variable

cool cool

entil2001
April 2nd, 2009, 05:44 PM
Review: Lost 5.11: "Whatever Happened, Happened" (http://entil2001.com/series/lost/season5/lost5-11.html)

Overall, this episode should have restored the faith of anyone who thought the writers were going to contradict themselves after the previous installment. Not only did this prove that the writers are still putting the pieces of the puzzle together, but it managed to give one particular character much needed development.

SoulReaver
April 2nd, 2009, 05:45 PM
so (somehow) healing Ben will also (somehow) erase his memory of the losties. ain't that convenient http://img.infos-du-net.com/forum/icones/smilies/dawa.gif

"Freckles" looked damn cute in that ep btw

lunarleviathan
April 2nd, 2009, 06:45 PM
So, what this episode is basically saying, is that everything is Jack's fault. Also, why the hell don't the DHARMA Initiative have a surgeon? They'll let any random person do menial work, but they never thought about hiring a surgeon?

Save Ben, Save the World.

the fifth man
April 2nd, 2009, 07:29 PM
I really enjoyed this episode last night. And that ending with Ben waking to see Locke sitting beside him was priceless. The look on Ben's face was great.:D I can't wait until next week.

Amalthea
April 2nd, 2009, 07:34 PM
so (somehow) healing Ben will also (somehow) erase his memory of the losties. now that's convenient http://img.infos-du-net.com/forum/icones/smilies/dawa.gif

"Freckles" looked damn cute in that ep btw

I think it's more about erasing everything around him getting shot. He, of course, will be going back to the Dharma initiative, where, presumably, the Losties will still be. So, he's still going to have contact with them again.

knowsfords
April 2nd, 2009, 08:16 PM
I really enjoyed this episode last night. And that ending with Ben waking to see Locke sitting beside him was priceless. The look on Ben's face was great.:D I can't wait until next week.

I loved Lockes "Got you you *******" smirk.

JayShadow
April 2nd, 2009, 08:29 PM
Also, why the hell don't the DHARMA Initiative have a surgeon? They'll let any random person do menial work, but they never thought about hiring a surgeon?I'm pretty sure they mentioned the surgeon being at The Looking Glass for some reason before Sawyer went to look for Jack.

SoulReaver
April 2nd, 2009, 10:45 PM
about the missing surgeons> those very few who were there in the beginning may have been killed during the conflict with the Others


I think it's more about erasing everything around him getting shot. He, of course, will be going back to the Dharma initiative, where, presumably, the Losties will still be. So, he's still going to have contact with them again.if it's only about erasing that part then what's the deal with him "losing his innocence" ? this suggests a lot more than just a minor memory wipe

furthermore after the previous ep some folks said that Ben getting shot would be what would later cause him to become what he is - so if he no longer remembers that incident, what is it that will make him turn rogue ?



btw if Ben will be seeing the Losties again then Hurley was right after all : Miles' time theory does not explain why adult Ben doesn't remember them (I asked myself that same question 2 eps ago hehe)

SeNedra
April 3rd, 2009, 01:27 AM
Great episode.
What got me at most was Jack. It was really ironic that he refused to help Ben cause he didn't want him to become what he did and that he is not gonna help him. But it happened cause he didn't help him. Really cool!

I like Kate's episode and I really enjoyed her interaction with that Sawyer's ex girl (don't remember name). The last Said ep was a bit boring but this one was great. I wonder what are they going to do with the ships, it is really complicated. I finally started to tolerate and even like Juliet with Sawyer and now they are back and who knows.

And John is back :D I already missed him.

Skydiver
April 3rd, 2009, 05:05 AM
I'm pretty sure they mentioned the surgeon being at The Looking Glass for some reason before Sawyer went to look for Jack.
that's what i thought i heard, that the surgeon was elsewhere, so juliette was teh only one with medical training

it's kinda cyclic, ben being a manipulative ass is leading to no one caring about him and him continuing to be a manipulative ass

fits in with the 'you can't change things'....of course, gotta wonder, when they try to change things, 'fate' intervenes and things go the way they were meant to be, wonder what would have happened had jack saved him and not tried to change things. Is change denied when you try to make it happen? and can you make change happen by not making it happen....if that makes any sense

Shan Bruce Lee
April 3rd, 2009, 09:14 AM
about the missing surgeons> those very few who were there in the beginning may have been killed during the conflict with the Others

if it's only about erasing that part then what's the deal with him "losing his innocence" ? this suggests a lot more than just a minor memory wipe

I'm guessing w/e happens in the temple is gonna be more than just erasing his memory of being shot.


furthermore after the previous ep some folks said that Ben getting shot would be what would later cause him to become what he is - so if he no longer remembers that incident, what is it that will make him turn rogue ?

A combination of his abusive father and losing his innocence from w/e happens in the temple.


btw if Ben will be seeing the Losties again then Hurley was right after all : Miles' time theory does not explain why adult Ben doesn't remember them (I asked myself that same question 2 eps ago hehe)

Hurley only mentioned him not remembering Sayid. For all we know he may remember the rest of them or by the time he gets back from the Temple they could be gone.

SoulReaver
April 3rd, 2009, 10:52 AM
I'm guessing w/e happens in the temple is gonna be more than just erasing his memory of being shot.that's what I said :|
isnt that the same kinda door that (big) Ben opened when he set Cerberus upon the mercs ? maybe whatever's gonna happen to little Ben has something to do with that creature

Starbreaker
April 4th, 2009, 12:04 PM
This episode was one of the best of the season... and it's a Kate episode. That's what was surprising. I like the direction they've taken with her character now. She needed to have something more to do than just stand around and take (and ignore) orders.

Hallnavy
April 5th, 2009, 09:38 AM
I myself liked the episode as well.
And like the direction of Kates character.
Also liked the fact that because Jack didn't help Ben he is going to turn into what he was supposed to....

I've got a question though....What ever happened to Claire? Did we ever find out? Or did I just miss it?

knowsfords
April 5th, 2009, 01:33 PM
I've got a question though....What ever happened to Claire? Did we ever find out? Or did I just miss it?

Locke saw her with Christian in the cabin.
So for all we know, she is a dead/a ghost.

knowles2
April 5th, 2009, 03:17 PM
We also may of saw her in the background when sun was talking to Christian. Of cause you have to had eagle eye to of seen her why the episode was playing, I only notice it in the screen caps.

Optimus Chekov
April 5th, 2009, 11:44 PM
I don't thinkw we're gonna see Little Ben again for a very long time. It makes sense that Richard doesnt exactly have a Sarcophagus or hand healing device. It might take him a darn long time, something us Stargate fans could forget with our fast paced recuperation stories.

knowles2
April 6th, 2009, 05:03 AM
We seeing him two more times before the season is over.

0xNatashax0
April 9th, 2009, 09:32 AM
It makes sense that Richard doesnt exactly have a Sarcophagus or hand healing device. It might take him a darn long time, something us Stargate fans could forget with our fast paced recuperation stories.

hehe true, but wouldn't a Stargate/Lost crossover be a right laugh!!