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GateWorld
February 28th, 2009, 06:37 AM
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<FONT SIZE="1">EPISODE NUMBER - 420</FONT>
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The crew of Galactica risks everything to rescue Hera from Cavil, joining forces with Cylon rebels for a direct assault on the enemy's home colony -- leading to a fateful, final showdown.

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This thread is for the first hour of the two part finale. Please try to keep discussion here about the first hour of the finale. The "Daybreak, Part 3" thread will be the "free for all" thread where you can talk about the entire, 2-hour finale.

bfldworker
March 20th, 2009, 06:07 PM
WOW!
RDA was right. Great fraking episode! So far!

Skydiver
March 20th, 2009, 06:20 PM
guys, let's remember that, when this airs in syndie, hour one and hour two will air separately. so let's try to keep this htread about hour one and the 'part three' thread can be the free for all

Finger13
March 20th, 2009, 06:21 PM
guys, let's remember that, when this airs in syndie, hour one and hour two will air separately. so let's try to keep this htread about hour one and the 'part three' thread can be the free for all

Oh sorry Skydiver, I wasn't aware that there were two threads. I'll remove the last post.

Finger13
March 20th, 2009, 06:27 PM
That battle was so awesome lol. I am definitely going to be watching and rewatching this forever.

pbellosom
March 20th, 2009, 06:31 PM
Oh sorry Skydiver, I wasn't aware that there were two threads. I'll remove the last post.

So will I

Lord Balls
March 20th, 2009, 06:31 PM
It's 10:30pm EST in the USA and there's like 40 minutes left.....what's left to reveal?

Espeon1962
March 20th, 2009, 06:47 PM
Great first hour, all the battles i needed to keep me happy! :)

Skydiver
March 20th, 2009, 06:53 PM
oh, lots, like the fate of the characters

i'll be opening the other thread in a few seconds

Pharaoh Atem
March 20th, 2009, 07:09 PM
that attack on the colony was amazing :D

bear mcceary is god

Pharaoh Atem
March 20th, 2009, 07:18 PM
i honestly didn't see galactica ramming itself into the colony cool moment.

gotta love the irony the cylons destroyed the 12 colonies and galactica destroyed the cylon colony

Finger13
March 20th, 2009, 07:23 PM
i honestly didn't seen galactica ramming itself into the colony cool moment.

gotta love the irony the cylons destroyed the 12 colonies and galactica destroyed the cylon colony

Poetic justice.

the fifth man
March 20th, 2009, 07:39 PM
Such an amazing, action-packed hour.

Pharaoh Atem
March 20th, 2009, 07:48 PM
Such an amazing, action-packed hour.

beats 'the oath" and exodus PT2 easily

Ulkesh47
March 20th, 2009, 10:40 PM
beats 'the oath" and exodus PT2 easily
Well, it very easily beats "The Oath", but "Exodus Part 2"? No... way.

Finger13
March 20th, 2009, 10:46 PM
Well, it very easily beats "The Oath", but "Exodus Part 2"? No... way.

I think it beats Exodus Part 2. Seeing Galactica get pounded by the Colony, then ramming straight through the side of it and all of the troops rappelling from the front? Extremely epic. The Raptors jumping from inside Galactica's hangar bay and blowing it to crap in the process, and the nuclear strike ripping it apart? Ughh I have to see this again lol.

My only quip is how we just saw Boomer's Raptor rip a hole in the side of Galactica, yet Galactica jumps away with her nose lodged in the colony and doesn't do any damage. When they jumped I was expecting to see half of the colony get ripped apart.

The only stupid thing was how after they jumped they just sat there and waited for the batteries to stop firing before they turned on the engines and rammed the colony. You would think that they would come out of their jump guns blazing and with their engines maxed out.

Pharaoh Atem
March 21st, 2009, 02:17 PM
Well, it very easily beats "The Oath", but "Exodus Part 2"? No... way.

during exdous i was all aww struck at everything that was happening.

in daybreak i was shocked and excited

Ulkesh47
March 21st, 2009, 02:18 PM
I think it beats Exodus Part 2. Seeing Galactica get pounded by the Colony, then ramming straight through the side of it and all of the troops rappelling from the front? Extremely epic. The Raptors jumping from inside Galactica's hangar bay and blowing it to crap in the process, and the nuclear strike ripping it apart? Ughh I have to see this again lol.

My only quip is how we just saw Boomer's Raptor rip a hole in the side of Galactica, yet Galactica jumps away with her nose lodged in the colony and doesn't do any damage. When they jumped I was expecting to see half of the colony get ripped apart.

The only stupid thing was how after they jumped they just sat there and waited for the batteries to stop firing before they turned on the engines and rammed the colony. You would think that they would come out of their jump guns blazing and with their engines maxed out.
I still stand by "Exodus Part 2", but I definitely see the point of anyone arguing for this.

Perhaps I would be won over if Galactica was destroyed in the battle. I know that this would have been impossible in the context of the story, but that would have made the battle even better, in my opinion.

garhkal
March 22nd, 2009, 01:35 AM
I too was hpping to see the colony get ripped up with galactica jumping so close to it.

jds1982
March 22nd, 2009, 03:37 AM
Wasn't Galactica damaged because it was in a weakened state? Maybe the colony was heavily reinforced against that kind of damage.

kizza42
March 22nd, 2009, 09:48 AM
The shock damage has never been super instantaneous to when the jump happened and the shot didn't exactly linger for long. Also much forgotten is that the whole damn colony was orbiting a black hole, I'm sure it was built pretty tough

bfldworker
March 22nd, 2009, 10:04 AM
i honestly didn't see galactica ramming itself into the colony cool moment.

gotta love the irony the cylons destroyed the 12 colonies and galactica destroyed the cylon colony

I was surprised by that. For one simple reason.

Go back to Exodus part 2.

You have Galactica getting the hell beat out of it and here comes Pegasus to the rescue.

Pegasus was in way better condition then Galactica, it didn't do the Adama Maneuver (which I found cool as hell), Pegasus was newer then Pegasus and it was from what I understand bigger.

What blew my mind was this. Pegasus rammed a Basestar at flank and that destroyed both Pegasus and at least 2 Basestars. Galactica Rammed the colony which is the size of a medium city at Flank and it survived.

Would that be considered a Ex Deus Machina or am I just loosing it.

bfldworker
March 22nd, 2009, 10:08 AM
Well, it very easily beats "The Oath", but "Exodus Part 2"? No... way.

I agree. While I liked "The Oath", it couldn't hold a candle to either Exodus part 2 or Day Break part 2.

However I will say that Exodus Part 2 and Day Break part 2 are running neck to neck. I think my favorite part out of both of them is the Adama Maneuver.

bfldworker
March 22nd, 2009, 10:10 AM
The only stupid thing was how after they jumped they just sat there and waited for the batteries to stop firing before they turned on the engines and rammed the colony. You would think that they would come out of their jump guns blazing and with their engines maxed out.

I think that may be technological short coming. Remember Galactica is suppose to have it's flight pods retracted when it jumps, I think the same is for the gun turrets. And yes I know, I have seen many episodes where Galactica's Flight pods were not retracted when it jumped.

bfldworker
March 22nd, 2009, 10:11 AM
Wasn't Galactica damaged because it was in a weakened state? Maybe the colony was heavily reinforced against that kind of damage.

Rewatch the scene when Galactica jumped away, You could see there were multiple internal explosions happening. I don't think the colony remained in tact.

My Sweet Revenga
March 22nd, 2009, 08:15 PM
The only thing that really bothered me about the episode was how the truce with Cavil was doomed no matter what within another 10 mins. Truce or not truce, Racetrack's hand would have hit that "launch nukes" button and blew the colony to hell. And on the other hand, the truce was seemingly broken and the fighting started up again and Racetrack's hand just happened to launch the nukes? Maybe I missed a detail and it was actually some stray shot that knocked Racetrack's raptor and made her hit the nuke button but it just seemed kinda pointless regardless.

Otherwise, the episode was awsome. Colony turrets had a hell of a kickback though, looked like rapid fire bobble heads heh.

Pharaoh Atem
March 24th, 2009, 08:38 AM
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo184/paulm84/bsg2933-1.gif
speaks for itself :D cool moment in the ep

bfldworker
March 24th, 2009, 09:14 AM
http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo184/paulm84/icons/4.png

speaks for itself :D cool moment in the ep

yes, I saw that and laughed. Talk about straight up execution, and what gets me is that he looked like he enjoyed that.

bfldworker
March 24th, 2009, 09:15 AM
Otherwise, the episode was awsome. Colony turrets had a hell of a kickback though, looked like rapid fire bobble heads heh.

Yeah, I know. it reminded me of the massive fight in the 3rd Matrix movie. All out kick ass hell.

Pharaoh Atem
March 24th, 2009, 09:38 AM
yes, I saw that and laughed. Talk about straight up execution, and what gets me is that he looked like he enjoyed that.

it proves the second generation cylon centurions are far more brutal then the original :cool:

bfldworker
March 24th, 2009, 10:54 AM
it proves the second generation cylon centurions are far more brutal then the original :cool:

This is true, the main difference however that has been mentioned was that they have a inhibitor on them was disabled by the 2's 6's and 8's.

Pharaoh Atem
March 28th, 2009, 03:34 PM
This is true, the main difference however that has been mentioned was that they have a inhibitor on them was disabled by the 2's 6's and 8's.

:indeed: :)

Matt G
March 31st, 2009, 01:35 PM
1. More flashbacks, meh.

2. Baltar playing GI Joe. WTF?

3. Holy frack! Awesome battle sequence!

4. Boomer is a scratch! Fine!

5. Roslin is a medic?

Galactica is going out with a bang! :)

Pharaoh Atem
May 16th, 2009, 04:53 AM
I was surprised by that. For one simple reason.

Go back to Exodus part 2.

You have Galactica getting the hell beat out of it and here comes Pegasus to the rescue.

Pegasus was in way better condition then Galactica, it didn't do the Adama Maneuver (which I found cool as hell), Pegasus was newer then Pegasus and it was from what I understand bigger.

What blew my mind was this. Pegasus rammed a Basestar at flank and that destroyed both Pegasus and at least 2 Basestars. Galactica Rammed the colony which is the size of a medium city at Flank and it survived.

Would that be considered a Ex Deus Machina or am I just loosing it.

the way i look at it Pegasus was going a hell of a lot faster and had longer to travel then galactica. galactica only went maybe 6 feet forward and didn't have a chance to build up a large amount of speed

Maj.Tahn
May 18th, 2009, 07:53 AM
I did not like the way the series ended. I felt the writing was too hurried & rushed. It didn't make any sense. Why wouldn't they build a city? Secondly, why didn't the Admiral establish an interim CAP using the Basestar & Vipers for a period of say 12 to 18 months until all the new settlements were established? Thirdly, why would you give a military asset like a Basestar to Centurians & hope "they find their own way & do the right thing?" That is completely idiotic! The Basestar using Admiral Adama's words is a "military asset" and their main means of attack & defense. They ARE still Centurians, and they ARE responsible for the genocide of billions of people of the 12 colonies. The writing didn't may any sense. Also, why didn't Adama bring Doc Cottle along to help ease our beloved Laura's pain in her last days. I did not like the way Daybreak ended.

the fifth man
June 23rd, 2009, 05:54 PM
The more I see this final, two-part episode of BSG, the more I come to appreciate it. I know a lot of people didn't like the way they chose to end this show. I am not one of those people. Yeah, there were minor things I would have liked to see go differently. But overall, I think Moore and Gang did a great job.

Ulkesh47
June 28th, 2009, 07:59 AM
In my opinion, the most memorable scene of the entire series was the Opera House/Final Five reveal here. It's closely followed by almost everything in "Exodus Part 2", and a couple scenes in "The Hand of God".

Platschu
May 21st, 2019, 02:08 PM
Wow. Nobody has commented here for 10 years. :(

The main reason I mentioned BSG in the GoT's finale thread that it is completly unacceptable for me that the Colonials have settled down to Earth and they have sacrificied all the ships, all their technologies. And since we know that only "mythocondrial Eve" has survived then it means that all the BSG survivors have became extinct and they have died out except her. So even if they had children their whole culture has disappeared. It is not good enough for me as a conclusion. Not to mention how the Greeks have re-discovered the same names 150 000 years later...

The finale had action, it had feelings, but this story decision was too much for my taste and I have still felt cheated and disappointed after 4 years. I loved the ending how AngelBaltar and AngelSix talks about humanity and the robots, but since we have followed the fate of the people of the main characters, it is hard to accept that they were willingly sacrifice their lives. We are talking about thousands of people!