Will it ALWAYS be sci-fi?

[SavetheGate]

Stargate seems like it could never be real - all the amazing technology and stuff... But years ago, many many years ago, a car would be science fiction. Stargates, they are based on a possible real idea - a wormhole (described in Einstein's thory of relativity) is possible, so a Stargate is basically a starting point for a wormhole, or a wormhole generator.

X304 - It isn't really that hard to imagine, inmaybe 20 - 30 years time, astronauts are flying huge space vessels like the Prometheus. Engines... we have the capability to create very powerful engines right now, just not very safe... weapons... we have many powerful projectile weapons - bombs, nukes etc... shields... basically a field of energy around the object... like an electromagnetic field just using a different type of energy...

Beam / teleport technology... ell I'm very young but I have a rough theory on teleportation... notr really that complicated.

What do you think? Do you think we will never have tech like in Stargate or do you think our next great technological advancement is just around the corner?

[Crazy Tom]

Teleportation is as likely as time travel, so don't bet on it.

Or the 304, that's not what real space ships look like.

[SavetheGate]

Teleportation is as likely as time travel, so don't bet on it.

Or the 304, that's not what real space ships look like.

Time travel... its actually quite simple. We will definitely be able to travel forward in time in the near future.

Yeah, but ships would adapt to look like the 304 because that would have more capacity etc.

[Crazy Tom]

Time travel... its actually quite simple. We will definitely be able to travel forward in time in the near future.

Yeah, but ships would adapt to look like the 304 because that would have more capacity etc.

Right.... there's a diference between possible by the laws of physics, and possible to actually do with technology.

Riiiiight-no. A 304 is to a real spaceship like a tank to an airplane.

[ha'tak_]

well I don´t think we will see much of that tech in our life time but our grand grand children might

[SavetheGate]

But if a 304-type ship existed then it would be a real ship wouldn't it?

So it's a space tank? It's more like a space carrier or space battleship.

[Crazy Tom]

well I don´t think we will see much of that tech in our life time but our grand grand children might

Ha! Most of this tech isn't even based on real physics. Heck, it's damn near impossible to create a traversible wormhole, even will all the exotic matter you can get your hands on, which is none for at least a couple of millenia in case your wondering.

[SavetheGate]

Yeah, it doesn't seem likely that we will see it in our life times but we might... we are constantly advancing and something like a Stargate isn't as far out of our capability as you might think.

[SavetheGate]

Ha! Most of this tech isn't even based on real physics. Heck, it's damn near impossible to create a traversible wormhole, even will all the exotic matter you can get your hands on, which is none for at least a couple of millenia in case your wondering.

A wormhole is porbably the simplest out of all that tech. You just create a MASSIVE gravity well, like the one made by the sun but on a larger scale, which bends space. Dangerous but that's the basic concept and we could build on the idea to make it safer.

[Dodgified]

Teleportation is as likely as time travel, so don't bet on it.

Scientists have already teleported an atom so yeah. Practical teleportation that would teleport people is far away though.
i believe some of it will be real one day. no one can prove or disprove subspace so subspace communications and hyperdrive?
i believe scientists have thought about energy shields and its energized plasma or something like that? (thats of memory so i doubt its right but i've read something about plasma)

edit: i found it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_f...)#In_real_life

A University of Washington in Seattle group has been experimenting with using a bubble of charged plasma to surround a spacecraft, contained by a fine mesh of superconducting wire.[1] This would protect the spacecraft from interstellar radiation and some particles without needing physical shielding.

might be a bit far away from actually stopping any weapons but meh, its an energy shield?

[SavetheGate]

Plasma shields could work... they could disintegrate a projectile weapon eg missile or bullet and absorb the energy from a energy weapon... but it would use loads of energy

[Crazy Tom]

A wormhole is porbably the simplest out of all that tech. You just create a MASSIVE gravity well, like the one made by the sun but on a larger scale, which bends space. Dangerous but that's the basic concept and we could build on the idea to make it safer.

I'm not going to try to explain why that ot gonna happen because there's no way I won't come across as a condescending, so do your research.

Scientists have already teleported an atom so yeah. Practical teleportation that would teleport people is far away though.
i believe some of it will be real one day. no one can prove or disprove subspace so subspace communications and hyperdrive?
i believe scientists have thought about energy shields and its energized plasma or something like that? (thats of memory so i doubt its right but i've read something about plasma)

edit: i found it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_f...)#In_real_life



might be a bit far away from actually stopping any weapons but meh, its an energy shield?

There's a deiference between 1 and 1 trillion. And then you get into the whole replicator problem.

Hyperdrives might be possible, might not, however I tend to err on the side of not thanks to Fermili's Paradox.

Plasma shields could work... they could disintegrate a projectile weapon eg missile or bullet and absorb the energy from a energy weapon... but it would use loads of energy

Well, that is not what a plasma shield does, it protects aginst radiation, it ould work against microwave wepons and such, but not lasers or anythgin with a higher wavelenth.

And bullets, out of the question.

But before we get itnto that, shuld we first ask ourselves whether were gona need all this military hardware?

[SavetheGate]

I'm not going to try to explain why that ot gonna happen because there's no way I won't come across as a condescending, so do your research.



There's a deiference between 1 and 1 trillion. And then you get into the whole replicator problem.

Hyperdrives might be possible, might not, however I tend to err on the side of not thanks to Fermili's Paradox.



Well, that is not what a plasma shield does, it protects aginst radiation, it ould work against microwave wepons and such, but not lasers or anythgin with a higher wavelenth.

And bullets, out of the question.

But before we get itnto that, shuld we first ask ourselves whether were gona need all this military hardware?

Are you one of those alien skeptics? Because if there ARE aliens out there and we start flying around the Milky Way in a space shuttle, everyone will get blown to bits. We would need shields and stuff.

[Dodgified]

Well, that is not what a plasma shield does, it protects aginst radiation, it ould work against microwave wepons and such, but not lasers or anythgin with a higher wavelenth.

And bullets, out of the question.

But before we get itnto that, shuld we first ask ourselves whether were gona need all this military hardware?

we might need the military hardware because when we start venturing out into the galaxy (which we obviously gonna do!) we might find some evil aliens?

[Crazy Tom]

Are you one of those alien skeptics? Because if there ARE aliens out there and we start flying around the Milky Way in a space shuttle, everyone will get blown to bits. We would need shields and stuff.

Please. I pride myself on trusting only the numbers. Wheter there are or not is imaterial. The posibility of interstelar flight is so far into the future that I was assuming we were still talking interplanetary.

Also, shields and such won't do much if we get into an all out war. After all, what are ships good if their base planets have been all bombed into the stone age with relativistic weapons? It's an interstlar version of MAD, except it function the oposite way, if FTL travel is impossible, or if both sides have serious enough beef, both will be exterminated as they fight a war in which they can't intercept the WMDs headed fo their planets.

http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/index.html

I recomed reading this website, it's highly imformative.

edit: There is no guarantee we will even make it to see a sngle interstelar mission, the galaxy, indeed.