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Madwelshboy
February 6th, 2009, 12:19 AM
Just as Oliver is announcing to the LuthorCorp board of executives that Queen Industries has bought controlling interest in LuthorCorp a bomb detonates in the meeting room. Clark and Lana investigate the bombing and discover that the bomb was made with kryptonite. Lana also discovers that her suit not only gives her strength and speed, but absorbs kryptonite radiation as well. The bombmaker, Winslow Schott, a former Queen Industries employee now under the employ of Lex, plants another bomb on the roof of the Daily Planet. When Lana absorbs the kryptonite in this bomb to deactivate it, she becomes so irradiated that she and Clark can never again be near each other. Clark tracks Lex down, but Lana stops him from doing something he would regret, and Lex's mobile safe-house explodes. To keep from harming Clark, Lana leaves Smallville, again.

Shan Bruce Lee
February 6th, 2009, 04:21 AM
There was a lot in this episode that I thought was incredible and really made it one of the best episodes of all 8 seasons.

I know I've complained a lot about the Clark/Lana stuff here and other places the last few years but I thought it was nicely done here. I had no idea that was gonna happen and it was a nice surprise.

You could tell it wasn't MR playing Lex but it didn't seem to matter.
Not sure I buy that he's really dead either.

I loved what they did with Oliver. It strikes at the chasm between him and Clark and really offers two completely different views on how to handle being a hero. It was done a lot better last night than it was in 'Bulletproof'

My favorite part of the episode? The Toymaker! He's always been a weak villain for Superman (the darkest I've ever seen Toymaker written was in a Batman story) I absolutely loved seeing him written so well.

I'm still disappointed that we haven't seen Lois since the show returned though :(

Malviris
February 6th, 2009, 05:24 AM
That is unusual about lois not being any of the recent episodes but im sure after watching this episode that they know what and when and how they are going to incorporate the off/on main characters.

Maybe lol

AscendedThor
February 6th, 2009, 08:50 AM
lex obviously isn't dead.
he wasn't in the truck he was watching the explosion on his screen and was really somewhere else.
the remains they found were of a clone he put there.
he faked his own death so that they'll stop looking for him.

mr_kennedy
February 6th, 2009, 02:10 PM
i loved this episode, im not much of a clana fan but tonights episode was awesome, what a way to write her out of the show

i believe louis/davis are back next week? cant wait

and toyman was awesome


lex obviously isn't dead.
he wasn't in the truck he was watching the explosion on his screen and was really somewhere else.
the remains they found were of a clone he put there.
he faked his own death so that they'll stop looking for him.

either that or a body double

Shan Bruce Lee
February 6th, 2009, 08:27 PM
either that or a body double

If it's not him it's a clone. They identified the remains as his.

HorizonSurfer
February 6th, 2009, 10:21 PM
Oh please, please please please please let this be the last time we ever see Lana. Please.

Browncoat1984
February 6th, 2009, 10:25 PM
I can say that I'm glad the Clark/Lana storyline is finally over. I wish Lois was there in at least ONE of these Clark/Lana episodes to kinda lay it down on Clark, "wtf were you doing going after me and now you're running back to Lana?!"

Was that a Teryl Rothery cameo (Dr. Fraiser on SG-1) in the opening scene talking to Oliver Queen?

Shan Bruce Lee
February 6th, 2009, 11:44 PM
Was that a Teryl Rothery cameo (Dr. Fraiser on SG-1) in the opening scene talking to Oliver Queen?

Yes

Terra Atlantus
February 7th, 2009, 04:46 AM
Was that a Teryl Rothery cameo (Dr. Fraiser on SG-1) in the opening scene talking to Oliver Queen?

Chris Gauthier, who played Winslow Schott (bombmaker) also has Stargate connections, he was in both Ark of Truth and a Atlantis episode.

Shan Bruce Lee
February 7th, 2009, 11:15 AM
Chris Gauthier, who played Winslow Schott (bombmaker) also has Stargate connections, he was in both Ark of Truth and a Atlantis episode.

I don't think I remember seeing him on Atlantis.

cflat
February 7th, 2009, 01:00 PM
I'm still disappointed that we haven't seen Lois since the show returned though :(

I'm also disappointed that Lois hasn't been in these past few episodes.
But now that Lana's gone, maybe they'll bring Lois back and have some more episodes of Clark and Lois getting closer.
And they barley mentioned Jimmy and how he's doing, too.

Shan Bruce Lee
February 7th, 2009, 01:56 PM
And they barley mentioned Jimmy and how he's doing, too.

Yeah, Chloe doesn't seem too concerned about it.

the fifth man
February 7th, 2009, 05:31 PM
Yeah, Chloe doesn't seem too concerned about it.

Yeah, I've noticed that too.

the fifth man
February 7th, 2009, 05:32 PM
If it's not him it's a clone. They identified the remains as his.

Definitely a clone. Come on, we know the real Lex can't be dead.

Terra Atlantus
February 8th, 2009, 02:49 AM
I don't think I remember seeing him on Atlantis.

Just a small part in season two Trinity
http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/albums/atl_season2/206-Trinity/screencaps/atl_206_215.JPG

cflat
February 8th, 2009, 03:38 PM
Chris Gauthier, who played Winslow Schott (bombmaker) also has Stargate connections, he was in both Ark of Truth and a Atlantis episode.

Oh, yeah, he is in Atlantis. He's in the episode Trinity.

I looked him up at IMDB and saw that he also plays Vincent in Eureka (which I didn't realize until I looked him up) and also did a couple of Supernatural episodes.

Shan Bruce Lee
February 8th, 2009, 05:15 PM
Just a small part in season two Trinity
http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/albums/atl_season2/206-Trinity/screencaps/atl_206_215.JPG

Lol as soon as I saw the picture I thought "Oh yeah, that dude" It never crossed my mind during the episode.

Wyrminarrd
February 9th, 2009, 12:43 AM
Does Lana get to keep her powers? If so then it rather reduces Clark's importance if there is someone out there who is as fast and strong as he is in addition to being able to take Clark down just be standing close to him...

I have to say that this episode irritated me, the show seemed to have finally moved beyond the Lana/Clark relationship this season only to have them shove Lana down our throats once again.

You have to wonder if some Lana Lang fan kidnapped the writers dog and forced him to write this episode...:mckay:

SoulReaver
February 9th, 2009, 07:54 AM
Lana keeps her powers but if I'm not mistaken she does not have invulnerability (at least not to slashing/piercing attacks ie. blades & bullets) so she's more like Wonder Woman. maybe that's why Clark said that even with her strength & speed it was still dangerous out there

btw I was somewhat annoyed at the Lana+Clark renewal too, but this series is only supposed to be based loosely on the comics (for example the comics Brainiac is not of kryptonian origin, etc.) so maybe in this series the writers never intended Clark & Lois to hook up

Shan Bruce Lee
February 9th, 2009, 08:05 AM
btw I was somewhat annoyed at the Lana+Clark renewal too, but this series is only supposed to be based loosely on the comics (for example the comics Brainiac is not of kryptonian origin, etc.) so maybe in this series the writers never intended Clark & Lois to hook up

They're not gonna stray that far from the comics. The fans already hate the Clark/Lana stuff because they let it drag out for so long.

Wyrminarrd
February 11th, 2009, 07:08 AM
The really irritating thing about Lana coming back is that things were going along well between Clark and Lois, there actually seemed to be real chemistry there which I always felt was missing from the Clana.

These episodes just feel like the donĀ“t belong in this season and should have been done last season.

SoulReaver
February 12th, 2009, 03:05 PM
They're not gonna stray that far from the comics. hey they already killed Lex Luthor
and given the circumstances (esp. his remains found & identified as his) looks like the only way to bring him back would be for the writers to pull off another "omg it wuz only a clone" on us (like they did with Lana) which needless to say wouldn't exactly serve the series well
so it's a bit of a dilemma isn't it : either kill Lex (and stray too far from the comics), or bring him back (and kill the show instead)

unless there's a 3rd option, if so I'd be curious to hear it :|

Wyrminarrd
February 13th, 2009, 12:45 AM
hey they already killed Lex Luthor
and given the circumstances (esp. his remains found & identified as his) looks like the only way to bring him back would be for the writers to pull off another "omg it wuz only a clone" on us (like they did with Lana) which needless to say wouldn't exactly serve the series well
so it's a bit of a dilemma isn't it : either kill Lex (and stray too far from the comics), or bring him back (and kill the show instead)

unless there's a 3rd option, if so I'd be curious to hear it :|

Time travel
Lex bribed the forensic team to say that the remains were his
Alternate reality Lex with the real one trapped in the phantom zone but finally escaping...

This is a comic book based universe so anything can happen :rolleyes:

SoulReaver
February 15th, 2009, 09:58 AM
Lex bribed the forensic team to say that the remains were his**** I forgot the simplest. yup could be it. it's the typical "Luthor way" of doing things, too ^__^

Korean_Turtle87
February 15th, 2009, 02:15 PM
yay, lana's gone now!! Lois and Clark time baby! I LOVED that last scene with Clark and Lana. It was amazing. That's about all I liked about the whole Clark/Lana thing...for this episode at least

LiliJ
April 8th, 2009, 10:46 AM
lex obviously isn't dead.
he wasn't in the truck he was watching the explosion on his screen and was really somewhere else.
the remains they found were of a clone he put there.
he faked his own death so that they'll stop looking for him.

I thought that but there is a frame of his face with an explosion all around... I really hope he isn't dead though. And I know it's silly, but that Michael Rosenbaum comes back for at least a guest episode! :rolleyes:


I can say that I'm glad the Clark/Lana storyline is finally over. I wish Lois was there in at least ONE of these Clark/Lana episodes to kinda lay it down on Clark, "wtf were you doing going after me and now you're running back to Lana?!"

Was that a Teryl Rothery cameo (Dr. Fraiser on SG-1) in the opening scene talking to Oliver Queen?

Yeah I know! Having Lois there would have made the whole Lana arc much more interesting (*whispers* and bearable! :P). The tension there would have been between her and Clark, the development (or destruction) of her friendship with Lana, and not to mention Lex! I would have loved for Lois to have teamed up with Oliver and Chloe, or at least for her to be somewhat involved in the Lex plotline. Her relationship with Lex was never really developed, and in the Superman incarnations (ok, I mean films, I never read the comics :eek:) that was one of the most interesting.

I am really glad that Lana is her own person now. For ages I've wanted her to break out from Clark's shadow and become her own person. Her speech at the end was great - "I know my life now", or something like that. She deserves to have her own destiny, seperate from Clark.

And is anyone else unhappy about how Clana ended? I mean, I loved how they did it (heartbreaking!), but now it seems like Lois is always going to be second best, and Clark and Lois' relationship is never supposed to be that way...

warmbeachbrat
April 10th, 2009, 03:51 PM
And is anyone else unhappy about how Clana ended? I mean, I loved how they did it (heartbreaking!), but now it seems like Lois is always going to be second best, and Clark and Lois' relationship is never supposed to be that way...

I totally agree! It would have been better to wrap up the whole Clark/Lana thing before the Clark/Lois thing really got going. I mean, of course there will always be feelings that Clark will have for Lana, but it could have been done in a way that would give a cleaner, healthier feel for Clark and Lois. Lana as a first love, fine...but not as the love he never got over.

Jonzey
April 18th, 2009, 10:29 AM
I'm torn on this episode. Parts were really good and parts were bad, but it doesn't really fit in with the rest of the season. If there was this sort of story as a stand alone thing (maybe a movie) it would be very good. But given its placing in season 8 it seems weird.

LiliJ
April 18th, 2009, 03:44 PM
It is a bit wierd. In fact the whole Lana arc seems a little odd to me, especially the convenient absence of Lois. It feels like a section from season 7...