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April 26th, 2004, 02:46 PM
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<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 102</FONT>
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Major Kawalsky is possessed by a Goa'uld, and the S.G.C. must find a way to remove it without killing him.

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bcmilco
June 8th, 2004, 07:05 PM
Not a great ep IMO but it nicely established how dangerous the Goa'uld are.

Poor Kawalsky :(

Elwe Singollo
June 8th, 2004, 07:07 PM
Wow bmc :) your commenting on like every episode:rolleyes:, anyways, back to the topic, yah, i didn't think it wasnt good or bad, but i do agree, it did clearly show how evil they are :)

bcmilco
June 8th, 2004, 08:35 PM
What can I say they looked so lonely with no comments and I fingured I'd try and start some... something ;)

Besides, you should talk :p

Elwe Singollo
June 8th, 2004, 09:09 PM
What can I say they looked so lonely with no comments and I fingured I'd try and start some... something ;)

Besides, you should talk :pHehe :p Maybe i shouldn't :), but then i couldn't aggrivate people who don't agree with me :rolleyes: But yah, i feel kind of bad for those episodes who don't get comments... :(

SeaBee
June 19th, 2004, 11:10 AM
Not a great ep IMO but it nicely established how dangerous the Goa'uld are.

Poor Kawalsky :(

I didn't see this ep until I got the first series on VHS. It made no sense to me, until I realised that the vids were numbered out of order! I kind of liked this ep, but I really wanted Kawalsky to be a regular character. Still, it was not to be. :(

Elwe Singollo
June 19th, 2004, 11:12 AM
I wasn't too 'interested' in watching Kawalsky every week, but i did think he would be in more than 3 episodes (although he was).

Roatbaum
June 19th, 2004, 12:18 PM
I liked Teal'c and Jack in this one,The story was sorta off somehow, and I personally didn't care for Kowalski, I couldn't say why. But Teal'c was cool, and the way they sliced off the back of Kowalski's head to kill the Goa'uld was good. I wonder how Jack knew that the Stargate would do that?

bcmilco
June 19th, 2004, 12:27 PM
I liked Teal'c and Jack in this one,The story was sorta off somehow, and I personally didn't care for Kowalski, I couldn't say why. But Teal'c was cool, and the way they sliced off the back of Kowalski's head to kill the Goa'uld was good. I wonder how Jack knew that the Stargate would do that?

He didn't know it would do that and they were trying to cut off the back of his head.

They were just trying to prevent him from leaving so that they could continue to try to save him. However he was partial in the gate and from Jack's angle he probably couldn't tell that so he shut it down, killing Kawalsky.

Elwe Singollo
June 19th, 2004, 12:29 PM
Didn't Jack tell Teal'c to hold his head there though?

bcmilco
June 19th, 2004, 12:41 PM
Okay I just went to look at the transcripts and this what they say about it:


O'NEILL
Teal'c! Hold him there!

TEAL'C pushes KAWALSKY'S head back into the event horizon.

O'NEILL
Shut it down! Now!

I always took that part of the scene to be an accident.

Although I suppose it makes sense when you consider Kawalsky asked to be killed if they couldn't get the goa'uld out. *shrugs* So I guess you were right.

KorbenDirewolf
June 20th, 2004, 06:36 PM
Well, in Stargate O'Neill sees Anubis killed by the rings, so maybe he guessed that the gate would have a similar effect.

Newbie
June 20th, 2004, 09:20 PM
hey even if he didn't know it was still a good try....but i think it's just that JACK has a higher IQ then he pretends to have...and just scientifically guessed what would happen ;)

Selmak
July 10th, 2004, 07:54 PM
This episode further illustrates how the Goa'uld take over hosts.

AgentX
July 10th, 2004, 07:59 PM
I liked The Enemy Within. It further illustrates how the Goa'uld operate, and how dangerous they really are. It also showed how, when given atough decision to make O'Neill can make it. His friend wanted death and Kowalski got it - I don't think it was by accident.

aAnubiSs
July 11th, 2004, 08:02 AM
We lost one of the more interesting people in this ep :/

Selmak
July 15th, 2004, 05:29 PM
To bad for Kawalsky... we did get to see him in one of the alternate reality episodes.

Bagpuss
July 19th, 2004, 03:45 AM
We lost one of the more interesting people in this ep :/
In a particularly horrible way too,IMO ! :(
(OK,I admit it,I really didn't like the ending....even though it was a plot necessity.I just have a low "Squick" threshold ! :o )

Selmak
July 19th, 2004, 09:23 PM
They could have used another character to demonstrate the Goa'uld thing... It didn't have to be a good character like Kawalsky.

Selmak
July 26th, 2004, 05:52 PM
I just though how funny it would be if the Goa'uld took over the chevron guy.

Major Fischer
August 23rd, 2004, 03:10 PM
Anyone else notice how.... excitable Hammond seems to be about, well, everything in this episode? Or annoyed. And Hammond also seems really cold and lacking in the basic compassion he shows later in the series.

DownFallAngel
August 23rd, 2004, 03:33 PM
Well yea. Thats because the SGC at this point in time was a major goof. It costs millions of dollars to run and they could only establish a wormhole for instantious galactic travel to one planet.

They then place Hammond, a most likely decorated general, in this position of baby sitter, and now a whole slew of choas is insueing.

Major Fischer
August 23rd, 2004, 04:06 PM
I guess it feels to me like the entire episode is painful to watch, and it's supposed to be one of the better ones in the first half of season 1. Makes you really think about what people say about Atlantis...

Replicarter
September 4th, 2004, 07:53 AM
:| crap, im so glad they killed him off.

zats
September 19th, 2004, 05:27 PM
Poor Kawalksi! He was cool!

What was good:

a. Plot line. They needed to show just how evil the goa'uld are--and I suppose that they couldn't go too long before killing off someone cool. (Sorry. "Heroes" still rankles.)

b. I know there was an awful lot that was done well, but to be honest, it's been a while since I've seen this one. What tends to stand out most in my mind is what I didn't like. I'm really not this negative, at least not most of the time.

What wasn't good:

a. Kawalksi. I liked him!

b. Why'd Warner do the procedure instead of Janet? My Da swears that she's one of the nurses in the OR--but I can't tell.

c. How'd they only get a husk, anyway? Was there part that remained behind that they simply didn't catch, or had the goa'uld actually integrated itself into Kawalksi's nervous system? If it's the latter, it rather throws a damper on later eps where they've successfully removed a goa'uld. It'd be a bit of bad thing of they found out that everyone they thought they'd successfully un-goa'ulded still had a snake in their heads and no one knew it.

Overall, a fine ep. Not one of my favorites, but not the worst either.

Replicarter
September 24th, 2004, 04:02 PM
Someone gave me a bad rep because of my earlier post, saying why I still watch the show if I find it crap, I don’t, I like Stargate itself, and enjoy most episodes, but in the earlier seasons there were quite a few bad episodes (but i like stargate because i became a fan during season 4, which was one of the best seasons), and characters which I found very boring and I am glad they killed them of, I’m entitled to my opinion aren’t I?

SeaBee
September 25th, 2004, 05:43 AM
I think that part of the problem with this episode is that in order to use the Kowalsky (sp?) character, the PTB had to agree to kill him off. (I'm sure I read something about it, somewhere). And as this was also only the second episode, the plots and characters hadn't really been properly developed.

It's very difficult for a new show to hit the ground running, and so many fail to even start walking, Space, Above and Beyond, for example. I have to admit that I didn't start watching SG-1 until the second series, I'd tried a couple of the first series, and didn't really get the point.

So the early episodes wern't the greatest. They needed a little more development and a bit more filling out, but I wouldn't call them [email protected] Just a learning process.

greytop
November 2nd, 2004, 05:41 PM
I like the way Jack tried to get Teal'c on SG-1.

Lord Zedd
November 11th, 2004, 09:20 AM
Anyone else notice how.... excitable Hammond seems to be about, well, everything in this episode? Or annoyed. And Hammond also seems really cold and lacking in the basic compassion he shows later in the series.
yeah I noticed that too yesterdaay when I saw it again.I bought the boxset of season 1

LMichelle
January 4th, 2005, 04:18 PM
Pretty intense storyline for the second episode of the series. :eek:

Too bad they killed off Kawalsky. I enjoyed the Jack/Kawalsky banter.

ShimmeringStar
January 30th, 2005, 07:55 AM
Anyone else notice how.... excitable Hammond seems to be about, well, everything in this episode? Or annoyed. And Hammond also seems really cold and lacking in the basic compassion he shows later in the series.Maybe he was happy he finally had gotten the SGC command position so he could do his part in keeping the timeline intact (in relation to S2’s 1969)???? :rolleyes: :D (*laughs* and to get back his $ ‘loan’ to the team? ;) )

ShimmeringStar
January 30th, 2005, 07:56 AM
Too bad they killed off Kawalsky. I enjoyed the Jack/Kawalsky banter.
As for me… I liked Kawalsky too. He had more presence and humor than some of the colonels TPTB foisted on us later (Reynolds, etc.) I know it surprised me that they killed him off in the 2nd episode. But I was happy they brought him back in later eps (the GameKeeper, Point of View….), even if they were AU or VR.

SmartFox
February 23rd, 2005, 06:55 PM
Im kind of sad that Kwalsky is dead but atleast he comes back for a couple guest appearnces.

hermajesty
February 25th, 2005, 11:03 AM
Anyone else notice how.... excitable Hammond seems to be about, well, everything in this episode? Or annoyed. And Hammond also seems really cold and lacking in the basic compassion he shows later in the series.
I noticed that too. However, i think its a good thing, it shows that there's been character development and that Hammonds experiences through the series have made him a better person.

I agree that its a shame they killed Kawalsky. He was a good character - in Children of the Gods he seemed easily as good as Sam or Teal'c or Hammond character-wise.

GatetheWay
March 7th, 2005, 08:55 PM
I started regularly watching Stargate in season six and realized I had a lot to catch up on. So I used my family's brand new Netflix membership to rent the first season DVDs. When I saw CotG I was like "Hey cool, I remember Kawalsky from the movie! Its cool the character is in the TV show now. I wonder why I haven't seen him in earlier ep.s. He seems really likable." Boy was I surprised when they killed him off :eek: . It was one of my first SG shock moments. I really found it unfair that he only got to be alive for 3 ep.s but I'm glad they brought him back a few times since. :o

Im_just_guessing
March 7th, 2005, 10:36 PM
That was 2 eps, CotG is one episode. (officially)

PugGate
March 9th, 2005, 05:54 PM
I thought the episode was a great way to broaden our understanding of the Goa'uld

alexia_star_2002
March 25th, 2005, 08:35 PM
Did anyone else notice that O'Neill calls Kawalsky by 2 different first names....at least what I remember...he calls him John and Charlie/Charles.

Katerine
April 2nd, 2005, 08:55 PM
A review after seeing 7 seasons, then re-watching:

Things got much calmer in later episodes. It was kind of surprising to see so many shouted orders for a simple Goa'uld attempted invasion. :)

So much for my first impressions; on to other things...

There was some very good Jack development in this episode. I'm not talking so much about the friendship between Jack and Kowalsky as I am talking about the first hints of Jack's strong sense of right and wrong. I loved the contrast shown between him and Kennedy. (Personally, I thought Kennedy made some good points re the proposed operation on Kowalski, but Jack and Hammond were still in the right).

Hammond, also, starts to show himself as somebody who will stand up for his people, and who has quite a lot of integrity of his own (as opposed to in CotG, where his rather senseless anger towards Daniel kind of put him in bad-guy territory for a little while). I loved the way he dressed down Kennedy in this episode.

Teal'c was the one who got the most development in this episode. I thought they did it rather well, although in retrospect it's was kind of strange to see him so stiff. I'd never realized that he's changed so much over the years. (It was also kind of strange to see him so thin...)

Even Sam had some good development - it's nice to go back to the seasons where she was a competent professional. Although she seemed a little too helpless during the hostage situation - could be because of a Goa'uld's superior strength. Or it could be because the writers hadn't given her strong martial arts skills yet. Haven't decided.

And on to the negative: I love Daniel. He's by far my favorite character. Watching him grow, intellectually, tactically, spiritually, and ethically (even when it seems that he can't possibly become any more ethical) is one of the greatest things about this show. But even I found his single-mindedness in this episode kind of... what's the word I'm looking for... annoying. I mean... Kowalsky was his friend. He should have some concern for Kowalsky for his own sake, not just because of what a successful operation could mean for Sha're!

Was kind of sad to see Kowalski go. Good man. Even if we only saw this episode, we could still tell that from his reactions to the news of what he'd done during his blackouts. Dramatic, and introduced the "take as host" threat very well. But it sacrificed a good character to do so.

Plot was ok. Had some excitement (see above re shouted orders over something that would eventually become commonplace, but at the moment is still new).

(ETA something I forgot last night): Plot had a one glaring hole, though... at one point, Daniel goes to rest, finds a dead body, and then... nothing. No mention of the body for the rest of the episode, except for one part where Jack tells Kowalsky that one person is dead. If it weren't for that, I might have thought that Daniel disposed of the body himself without telling anybody. Also, the death might have had a bit more impact if the doctor had... I don't know... a name...(/ETA)

6 of 10.

QuiGonJohn
April 18th, 2005, 02:47 PM
It's very difficult for a new show to hit the ground running, and so many fail to even start walking, Space, Above and Beyond, for example. I have to admit that I didn't start watching SG-1 until the second series, I'd tried a couple of the first series, and didn't really get the point.
Actually, I think SG-1 hits a stride pretty quickly, especially building dynamic among the team.

I also liked Kowalsky and would have liked to see him stick around. Sure, we'd see less of him, with him having his own team. but from time to time, he could show up.

Beatrice Otter
April 18th, 2005, 10:29 PM
Having watched the movie a couple of times, I wouldn't agree that Daniel and Kawalsky are necessarily good friends. Yes, they fought together, which tends to create bonds between people, but Kawalsky treated Daniel like **** in just about every interaction they had until the end. Forex, he was the one who threw the suitcase at his head. And EW takes place within a day or so of CotG, so it's not like the two had time to bond then. So I don't find it surprising that Daniel, having lost his beloved wife just a few days earlier, is more concerned about what the operation would do for her than he was about a guy he probably had ambiguous feelings for and hardly knew.

KorbenDirewolf
July 5th, 2005, 12:49 AM
Poor Kawalksi! He was cool!
b. Why'd Warner do the procedure instead of Janet? My Da swears that she's one of the nurses in the OR--but I can't tell.

As far as I recall, Warner was the chief surgeon at that time.. and Fraiser wasn't around until after this.

JoshuaJSlone
August 14th, 2005, 10:48 AM
After Children of the Gods I was guessing that Kawalsky would act as a spy and saboteur within the SGC for some time before being found out. Didn't think this episode would be the end of him. Really, though, this felt like an extension of the pilot. It's like "OK, so we set up the basics of the SGC, the Goa'uld, and gate travel. Now we'll establish how sneakily a Goa'uld can hide in its host, and how difficult it is to purge. Also we must further establish Teal'c as a good guy so he can be on SG-1."


Having watched the movie a couple of times, I wouldn't agree that Daniel and Kawalsky are necessarily good friends. Yes, they fought together, which tends to create bonds between people, but Kawalsky treated Daniel like **** in just about every interaction they had until the end. Forex, he was the one who threw the suitcase at his head.
That was Ferretti. Kawalsky did his share of screaming and shoving, though. :)

.:Lemon:.
August 24th, 2005, 07:46 AM
As far as I recall, Warner was the chief surgeon at that time.. and Fraiser wasn't around until after this.

Yeah, I don't think she mad her first appearance until 'Broca Divide' a bit later in the season.

This episode, wasn't fantastic, but then again it wasn't awful. Pretty average. But when you take into account that it was only the second episode, and things were only just getting started,and characters were only just being introduced, it becomes understandable

Stricken
September 8th, 2005, 01:53 AM
It was okay it got rid of Kawalsky who was a pain in the butt!

walter_MacChevron
September 12th, 2005, 09:26 PM
This episode, wasn't fantastic, but then again it wasn't awful. Pretty average. But when you take into account that it was only the second episode, and things were only just getting started,and characters were only just being introduced, it becomes understandable



You also have to consider that Children of the Gods must have taken a lot of money out of the budget..........so to save money they did an on world episode

Pharaoh Atem
January 31st, 2006, 07:25 PM
Good jack and teal'c moments

feel real bad to Kawalsky i really liked him along with a lot of other fans

solid episode it helped set up the gou'lud

timdalton007
February 1st, 2006, 12:30 PM
I think they writers ended the whole Kawalsky / Go'auld subplot way too early ebcause it would have been intresting in latter episodes to have seen what might have happened (Imagine Within The Serpent's Grasp For Instance).

Otherwise, pretty much run-of-the-mill as far as the series is concerned.

timdalton007

cafine_us
February 1st, 2006, 01:22 PM
I think Kawalsky really provided the motivation and the hatred Jack felt for the Goa'uld. While Sha're and Skaara's plights were worth an attempt at rescue, there was still hope for them. The plot really needed to give Jack a strong breaking point to fuel his later aggressive battle against the Goa'uld. Having this episode second allowed the remaining seasons to become more plausible.

andrelage
February 12th, 2006, 12:48 PM
i disagree with what ppl have said about the Kawalsky character. IMO he would have been a great leader who would help sg1 out whenever they got in trouble.

Hira
February 15th, 2006, 05:09 AM
i like this ep but i think Kawalsky should have had a bigger role in the season.

Commander Ivanova
February 15th, 2006, 08:10 AM
i like this ep but i think Kawalsky should have had a bigger role in the season.

Agreed, coulda done with seeing more of Kawalsky before they killed him off

captain jake
May 4th, 2006, 08:53 PM
Ya very strange, but he is in a couple other missions.

Chelle DB
June 3rd, 2006, 02:37 AM
I thought this was a great ep but a bit bummed that they killed off Kawalsky before we really got to know a bit more about him, especially since the character was in it from the movie. I heard that AT got hurt in the filming of this ep when she was thrown against the elevator wall - she dislocated her shoulder. Makes you wonder what goes on behind the scenes. So there you go....a pretty good ep but not one of my favorites.

captain jake
June 18th, 2006, 12:09 AM
The scene when teal'c went in to talk to kawalsky was so stupid. I wish teal'c would have been able to see that coming. (you think he would have)

Sheppard
July 19th, 2006, 09:26 PM
yeah anyway i thought he could detect the presence of a gouald so he should of been able to sence it ah well what is done is done

captain jake
July 21st, 2006, 05:47 PM
yeah anyway i thought he could detect the presence of a gouald so he should of been able to séance it ah well what is done is done

Teal'c senses naquadah not the presence of a Gou'ald. Just because Teal'c could sense that kawalsky still had Naquadah in him didn't mean that kawalsky was still a Gou'ald. Therefore Teal'c wouldn't know if Kawalsky was a Gou'ald.

cafine_us
July 22nd, 2006, 04:27 PM
Also, most of the body of the Goa'uld had already been removed. While some naquada remained in the host's body, the highest concentration is probably within the symbiote itself.

Another important point to remember is that Teal'c hadn't developed the ability to sense naquada yet. He obviously couldn't sense that Kalwalsky was a Goa'uld at the beginning of the episode, why would he at the end?

captain jake
July 22nd, 2006, 09:52 PM
Also, most of the body of the Goa'uld had already been removed. While some naquada remained in the host's body, the highest concentration is probably within the symbiote itself.

Another important point to remember is that Teal'c hadn't developed the ability to sense naquada yet. He obviously couldn't sense that Kalwalsky was a Goa'uld at the beginning of the episode, why would he at the end?

ROTFLMAO

Sorry but jaffa are born with that ability as our gou'ald hosts or former gou'ald hosts. Teal'c had the ability the entire episode they just played it out like teal'c hadn't been close enough to sense it. Im sure he would have to be within a 10-15 foot radius of the prospect, perhaps teal'c was never that close.

cafine_us
July 23rd, 2006, 12:07 PM
Actually, the Jaffa's ability to sense Goa'uld didn't appear until later in the series. Teal'c and Kawalsky did stand near each other several times, at the end of Children of the Gods on the top of the ramp, for example. Even in season 2, In the Line of Duty, Teal'c did not sense Sam's Goa'uld, although they were in the same room during the briefing.

captain jake
July 23rd, 2006, 03:32 PM
So you are claiming that all of a sudden Jaffa were able to sense naquadah? I realize that they didn't make it part of the story until later in the series but I still think of it in the early episodes. I find reason why teal'c wouldn't have sensed it instead of just saying well they hadn't put that in the story yet.

Chaka's_Mum
August 10th, 2006, 11:57 PM
I get what Cafine_us is saying. It's interesting to note that Teal'c's ability to sense naquadah (and, ergo, a Symbiote) does rather seem to switch itself on and off according to the circumstances!

I reckon it's just a continuity glitch. These things happen - particularly when a series is still 'bedding in'. But we love it, so we don't mind! Or at least, I love it, so I don't mind!;)

AGateFan
August 13th, 2006, 02:15 PM
The Enemy within

Joking by Jack and Kawaski and Hammond and Carters look about it is classic.

DHD gets its name from Daniel and Carter it appears.

SG1 the greatest hope for the millions of “people from earth” that populating the galaxy by the goa’ulds hand. Teal’c also thinks we are his greatest hope to free his people.

Hey I miss that doctor Warner, he was kind of a putz but he was Frasier’s putz.

Ohhh, Kawaski\Goa’uld slapping Carter around but she sounds the alarm and gets the blast doors closed.

More character development in this ep. We learn much about Teal’c. A little conversation between Daniel and Sam teaches us more about him. And Kawaski, they really hit the “emphasize with this guy” button on this one. Sets up Jack O’Neill vs Airforce Bigwigs battle too.

Hammond telling the arrogant Goa’uld what it is all about.

We learn a lot about the goa’uld in this ep too.
Funny though that Teal’c gets to go to the briefing while he’s a prisoner but then he did have info to provide. Az hole Col didn’t stand up like everyone else when GENERAL Hammond left the room. Further proving what an az he is. Hammond through out the President card for the first time, nice.

Teal’c also strolls in behind Hammond at Kawasky’s operation no security in sight. Not very secure of them but then Jack did give Hammond his stamp of approval and Hammond should know (from 1969) that Teal’cs a good guy. So for these two reasons I will not ping the lack of security as a horrible thing in this ep.

I wonder how the Tokra surgically remove goa’uld. I imagine they have some type of chemical that prevents the goa’uld from interlacing some of its genetic code in the human brain and then regenerating (or whatever it did).

You would think a Goa’uld would know how to kill a jaffa. Luckily not though. Oh poor Walter only his second ep and he gets wumped by a goa’uld.

But TEAL’C is there to save the day. “You cannot pass”.
Nasty way to die for poor old Kawaski. More character development for Jack. Hes a tough guy but he cares about his friends.

Teal’c a member of SG-1 and he has a helmut that he never ever ever puts on as far as I remember. Jack has ditched his for the ball cap. Teal’c looks great in the full green gear.
End. Great ep! Learned a lot about the goa’uld and the characters and used the Stargate to save the day. Yay.

Daniel Jackson703
August 31st, 2006, 01:51 PM
Ever notice how Teal'cs Searpent tatoo was upsidedown for the first half of the episode then went back to normal for the rest

Sheppard
September 20th, 2006, 07:43 AM
i just watched it then and i was going to post about that and i read the whole thread thinking no one noticed and i got to the last post and you mentioned it lol yeah i did notice and i was like wtf?!!! i wonder why they did that maybe they didnt notice

Kyle
November 6th, 2006, 07:15 AM
This episode is on today on Sky One (In the UK at least) at 5pm, just under 2 hours.:jack: :sam: :daniel: :tealc:

Arga
November 6th, 2006, 04:26 PM
i just watched it then and i was going to post about that and i read the whole thread thinking no one noticed and i got to the last post and you mentioned it lol yeah i did notice and i was like wtf?!!! i wonder why they did that maybe they didnt notice

you made me check! :tealc: LOL

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Well spotted you guys!



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angelfire east
March 22nd, 2007, 11:09 PM
I really like Kawalsky and am sad he died. I guess you can say I don't wish he didn't die becuase I love the way the show turned out without him but I really enjoy seeing him again later in season 3 and 8.

I love Jack in this episode, he's so funny plus I love the stuff to do with Teal'c. Also George standing up for his people was brilliant. Both things showed what was to come.

I got a real kick out of everytime Sam and Daniel called the gate room "the embarkation room" and not just becuase the way they said it was funny (like they where trying very hard to remember it's name and to say it right) but because
In 2010 that really annoying guide connected Daniel when he said it's the gate room:lol: I really forgot they use to call it the embackation room.

The only thing I really didn't like was Sam not putting up much of a fight when she was taken. I thought she could have put up a much better fight speacilly when he let her go in the elevator but I gues they tried to make up for that with the next episode of girl power Sam.


Did anyone else notice that O'Neill calls Kawalsky by 2 different first names....at least what I remember...he calls him John and Charlie/Charles.

Really? I didn't notice that but that doesn't mean it didn't happen:) I won't be surpised if Kawalsky called him John since it's it is real first name. Jack is just nickname. Most of the time I forget it's not his real name :lol:


I heard that AT got hurt in the filming of this ep when she was thrown against the elevator wall - she dislocated her shoulder. Makes you wonder what goes on behind the scenes. So there you go....a pretty good ep but not one of my favorites.

Really :eek: Poor AT:( I think that kind of things happen a lot on sets in fight scenes. On Farscape, Ben hurt his face when another actor pushed his face into a table (the guy didn't know he hurt him for real at the time).


you made me check! :tealc: LOL

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End :
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Well spotted you guys!
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I didn't notice that, Great catch guys!

Harlan's Speechwriter
March 31st, 2007, 12:10 AM
I was suprised to see Kawalsky exit the show so early on; the actor's performance in this episode was great. I've only seen up to disc 2 of Season 2, but I do wonder whether Kawalsky's character would have proved to be too similar to O'Neil's for the purpose of sustaining the series. I've seen one of Kawalsky's reappearances, I'm looking forward to any others.

I was also a bit surprised that more people weren't taken over by Goaul'd in the heat of the battle.

Trek_Girl42
March 31st, 2007, 12:39 AM
I was suprised to see Kawalsky exit the show so early on; the actor's performance in this episode was great. I've only seen up to disc 2 of Season 2, but I do wonder whether Kawalsky's character would have proved to be too similar to O'Neil's for the purpose of sustaining the series. I've seen one of Kawalsky's reappearances, I'm looking forward to any others.

Kowalsky was awsome! I wish he hadn't died so soon as well. You've got a looooong way to go before his next appearence, unfortunately.

I think he would have remained quite different from Jack- we could have had him as recurring character like Colonal Reynolds in later seasons. Not in the forefront, but there often enough that it brings the reality of the SGC, having other familiar faces- that we actually realize are familiar and we don't assume are random background characters of the week and not look too closely.

garhkal
March 31st, 2007, 08:20 PM
I was also a bit surprised that more people weren't taken over by Goaul'd in the heat of the battle.

That's one thing i am surprised at myself..

Chaka's_Mum
April 2nd, 2007, 12:11 AM
I was suprised to see Kawalsky exit the show so early on; the actor's performance in this episode was great. I've only seen up to disc 2 of Season 2, but I do wonder whether Kawalsky's character would have proved to be too similar to O'Neil's for the purpose of sustaining the series. I've seen one of Kawalsky's reappearances, I'm looking forward to any others.

I was also a bit surprised that more people weren't taken over by Goaul'd in the heat of the battle.

I suppose it would have made things into a bit of a pickle from the storytelling point of view if half the troops coming back had been stuck with symbiotes. Unfortunately it's been a while since I saw these eps (despite Sky starting the reruns again from the start barely two weeks ago!) so I can't remember whether anyone else bent down to examine a fallen Jaffa as Kawalsky did - thereby giving the Goa'uld in the pouch a chance to make a break for survival.

One of the best things about this ep is how it sets up just what a horror it is to be a host to a Goa'uld. The symbiote is not mature enough to assume complete control, so Kawalsky keeps getting free again, thus we know what he's going through in a way that we couldn't when Sha're and Skaara were implanted with their Symbiotes. It's a superb performance by Jay Acovone.

While this incident in itself doesn't answer Daniel's assertion from 'Children of the Gods' that something of the host must survive the implantation, it's the first suggestion that they do.

Harlan's Speechwriter
April 2nd, 2007, 01:58 PM
One of the best things about this ep is how it sets up just what a horror it is to be a host to a Goa'uld. The symbiote is not mature enough to assume complete control, so Kawalsky keeps getting free again, thus we know what he's going through in a way that we couldn't when Sha're and Skaara were implanted with their Symbiotes. It's a superb performance by Jay Acovone.

While this incident in itself doesn't answer Daniel's assertion from 'Children of the Gods' that something of the host must survive the implantation, it's the first suggestion that they do.

Absolutely. In this episode, we can really appreciate what the SG teams are up against; being a host is far worse than being shot at (for which anyone in the military is prepared).

It shows what a real risk they're taking, facing something none of them fully understand (except Teal'c, but even he only truly understands what it is to be a Jaffa) and can do something far worse than kill them -it can make their lives a living hell.

Jedi Knight Cameron Mitchell
September 22nd, 2007, 10:29 PM
Major Kawalsky will still be one of my favorite recurring character, i wish he would not get killed so early in the show and could stay with the series longer, it was nice to see him alive in Season 3 Point of View and there's still a chance that he could be in one of the SG-1 movies maybe he could come back alive or a guest appearance in Atlantis, unless he might have a son Dominic from Season 5 Rite of Passage

garhkal
September 23rd, 2007, 02:06 PM
The only way i can see him coming back in the films is continuoum, since he would have not joined the stargate program and ergo would not have died.

Vhladynineer
October 20th, 2007, 05:46 AM
I was suprised to see Kawalsky exit the show so early on; the actor's performance in this episode was great. I've only seen up to disc 2 of Season 2, but I do wonder whether Kawalsky's character would have proved to be too similar to O'Neil's for the purpose of sustaining the series. I've seen one of Kawalsky's reappearances, I'm looking forward to any others.

I was also a bit surprised that more people weren't taken over by Goaul'd in the heat of the battle.

With regards to Kawalsky, you are probably right. The team that went through the gate in the movie were primarily the typical O'Neill soldier types although movie Jack was in his cold, distant and suicidal phase in the beginning of the movie. If I am not mistaken, Kawalsky and Feretti were the ones that survived the attack of Ra's forces so for continuity's sake, they were also brought in the series, albeit as secondary characters.

garhkal
October 20th, 2007, 11:09 PM
Has feretti been seen since?

P-90_177
October 20th, 2007, 11:11 PM
yeah a number of times in season 1 and possibly 2 but i'm not sure. he took over sg2 after kawalski.

captain jake
December 11th, 2007, 07:06 PM
Major Kawalsky will still be one of my favorite recurring character, i wish he would not get killed so early in the show and could stay with the series longer, it was nice to see him alive in Season 3 Point of View and there's still a chance that he could be in one of the SG-1 movies maybe he could come back alive or a guest appearance in Atlantis, unless he might have a son Dominic from Season 5 Rite of Passage

Unfortunately I doubt that Charles Kawalsky will ever make another appearance in the Stargate universe ever again. He has only ever been apart of, "Stargate" the movie, Children of the Gods, The Enemy Within, The Gamekeeper, Point of View, and Moebius: Part 2. Thats 6 episodes out of the entire 10 seasons of SG-1. He has never made an appearance on a Atlantis episode, and he probably never will. Even though the new movies might have time travel in them, the chances of seeing him again are slim to none at best.


The only way i can see him coming back in the films is continuoum, since he would have not joined the stargate program and ergo would not have died.

Number one, that is kinda a spoiler.

Number two, IMDB has no record of Jay Acovone being a part of the cast. Check it out yourself http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0010264/


With regards to Kawalsky, you are probably right. The team that went through the gate in the movie were primarily the typical O'Neill soldier types although movie Jack was in his cold, distant and suicidal phase in the beginning of the movie. If I am not mistaken, Kawalsky and Feretti were the ones that survived the attack of Ra's forces so for continuity's sake, they were also brought in the series, albeit as secondary characters.

Exactly, however I wouldn't call them secondary characters as much as I would call them transitional characters.


Has feretti been seen since?

Yes in both "Within the Serpent's Grasp" and "Shades of Grey"


A friend once mentioned this to me... I didn't believe that a show as great as stargate sg-1 would make such a simple mistake!!!!

So I obviously watched the episode to see if he was right... I couldn't have been paying much attention when I first watched it... Though I have to admit it's not the best of epps..

I doubt TPTB ever would make that mistake twice, but if they have I would be really interested to know about it.

chevron3
February 5th, 2008, 05:18 PM
poor kawalski!

Stargate121x
April 26th, 2008, 10:12 PM
I liked this episode as well cuz we got 2 kno a little bit more about teal'c and his personality. I was hoping they would b able 2 remove the goa'uld from kowalsky, but the whole episode i had a feeling it wasn't gonna happen. I liked kawalsky and was sad 2 c him die, but in the end sg1 got teal'c 2 join them officially so that was nice.

Dr. Michael Benjamin
May 4th, 2008, 08:42 PM
From information I have seen the reason Kawalski was killed off in "The Enemy Within" was because he already had another TV deal lined up and didn't want to stay on board. He was given a choice to remain with SG-1 or move on to the other project. He chose the latter. While I don't know which TV series he went to or even if that is true there is precedent for this kind of thing. In 1974 McLean Stevenson was up for contract renewal for his character of Colonel Henry Blake in MASH. At the time he had to decide between staying on or going to another production with another network. After a great deal of negotiations with CBS and Larry Gelbart, Stevenson chose to walk as he believed MASH would not stay on the air very long. The studio felt betrayed and thus added that shocking final scene in his last episode where Radar explains in the OR his plane was shot down and his character was killed. Unfortunately for Stevenson his prediction was not entirely accurate (if I may borrow a phrase from Col. O'Neill). MASH would go on to win critical acclaim, numerous emmys and enjoy top 3 ratings for another nine years. Thats Hollywood. It happens.

HelloVelo
May 17th, 2008, 01:49 PM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Wizard of Oz reference in this episode. It was the first one ever. “That’s right Dorothy, it was all a dream.”

Overall, pretty good. Too bad Kawalsky had to go.

7/10

Full Review: http://stargatesummer.blogspot.com/2008/05/enemy-within.html

starshineRoxie
June 10th, 2008, 03:23 PM
Again, I'm rewatching all episodes after I've seen the entire SG-1 series, and then letting myself forget every little detail before I rewatch it. :)

In this episode, I think the main point was that we (the audience) were already supposed to be somewhat attached to Kawalsky since the character was in the original Stargate movie, and that being said, he was picked by the writers to be sacrificed, since we liked him, so that we would always know from now on that the SGC protocol would be to check the SG teams for evidence of a Goa'uld presence. After this episode, we now place our faith into the SGC's ability to protect itself from a direct Goa'uld infestation. I think that was the whole point of this episode. ;)

I also think that Jack figured out that the radiation from a Stargate would probably kill a Goa'uld just because the radiation from a Stargate is just that dangerous to any living things on Earth. The SGC always has a rad team sweep in to clean up after an SG team returns. He knew Kawalsky died on the surgical table after the Goa'uld must have gained control. The Goa'uld threat had to be eliminated, so he told Teal'c to hold him there on purpose, knowing the wormhole radiation would vaporize said threat. ;)

L E E
June 23rd, 2008, 07:41 AM
i like this episode. i wish kawalski did not have to die. poor jack. RDA played well the part of a friend and commander fearing for kawalski's life while managing to still be a smartass.

captain jake
June 25th, 2008, 11:45 AM
Again, I'm rewatching all episodes after I've seen the entire SG-1 series, and then letting myself forget every little detail before I rewatch it. :)

In this episode, I think the main point was that we (the audience) were already supposed to be somewhat attached to Kawalsky since the character was in the original Stargate movie, and that being said, he was picked by the writers to be sacrificed, since we liked him, so that we would always know from now on that the SGC protocol would be to check the SG teams for evidence of a Goa'uld presence. After this episode, we now place our faith into the SGC's ability to protect itself from a direct Goa'uld infestation. I think that was the whole point of this episode. ;)

I also think that Jack figured out that the radiation from a Stargate would probably kill a Goa'uld just because the radiation from a Stargate is just that dangerous to any living things on Earth. The SGC always has a rad team sweep in to clean up after an SG team returns. He knew Kawalsky died on the surgical table after the Goa'uld must have gained control. The Goa'uld threat had to be eliminated, so he told Teal'c to hold him there on purpose, knowing the wormhole radiation would vaporize said threat. ;)

First I agree that learning that the SGC could withstand a direct threat from the Goa'uld was a a main point. However, I also believe that it was about learning more about the way a Goa'uld takes control of a human host. We learn much about the reason for why the Goa'uld need the Jaffa. We learn this both in the interview with Teal'c and in Kawalsky's fight with the infant Goa'uld.

Second I am not sure the you would call it radiation. See what happened was, all of the molecules that made up the back of Kawalsky's head were demolecularized in order to be sent through the wormhole, when the gate was shut off all of those molecules simply ceased to exist. They were not burned by radiation, they were just gone.


I like this episode. i wish kawalski did not have to die. poor jack. RDA played well the part of a friend and commander fearing for kawalski's life while managing to still be a smartass.

I think TPTB killed off Kawalsky for a number of reasons, but it was most likely the fact that he just didn't really fit into the puzzle.

Cheerful Dragon
July 3rd, 2008, 01:43 AM
Again, I'm rewatching all episodes after I've seen the entire SG-1 series, and then letting myself forget every little detail before I rewatch it. :)

In this episode, I think the main point was that we (the audience) were already supposed to be somewhat attached to Kawalsky since the character was in the original Stargate movie, and that being said, he was picked by the writers to be sacrificed, since we liked him, so that we would always know from now on that the SGC protocol would be to check the SG teams for evidence of a Goa'uld presence. After this episode, we now place our faith into the SGC's ability to protect itself from a direct Goa'uld infestation. I think that was the whole point of this episode. ;)

I also think that Jack figured out that the radiation from a Stargate would probably kill a Goa'uld just because the radiation from a Stargate is just that dangerous to any living things on Earth. The SGC always has a rad team sweep in to clean up after an SG team returns. He knew Kawalsky died on the surgical table after the Goa'uld must have gained control. The Goa'uld threat had to be eliminated, so he told Teal'c to hold him there on purpose, knowing the wormhole radiation would vaporize said threat. ;)

I'm rewatching a whole lot of SG-1 episodes, but this time I'm going to comment on every one!

I think Kawalsky was killed off because he was the only other character from the original film. I don't think this was because of any attachment we may have felt, but because he wasn't going to be a member of SG-1. He was given his own team to lead, but that team wasn't going to feature on a regular basis. So, if a major character from the film isn't going to have a major role in the series, the character has to go.

O'Neill knew that whatever was pushed through the event horizon would de-molecularize. Shutting off the Stargate with part Kawalsky's head through the event horizon would destroy his head, killing him. The rad team was probably checking that nothing the Goa'uld sent through had caused any major radiation problems. We don't see them in other episodes, so radiation from the Stargate isn't the issue here.


Now my own thoughts. This is a good episode, showing the SGC's ability to defend itself from Goa'uld incursion and their willingness to sacrifice themselves and the base to prevent an attack via the Stargate. It also shows Hammond's willingness to fight for his men, even against people who have been given orders from a higher authority.

What did surprise me, though, is that Dr. Warner thought the Goa'uld had been dealt with, even though the head was still in Kawalsky's body. My first thought was that if the head was still there, the Goa'uld could still be in control - and it was.

I also liked the way Sam gave hope to Daniel by saying that something of the host survives, because Kawalsky remembered the code for the auto-destruct. The Goa'uld could have forced Kawalsky to enter the auto-destruct code, but the information had to be taken from his memories.

Over all, a good second episode, relying on characters rather than special effects.

captain jake
July 3rd, 2008, 02:55 AM
I'm rewatching a whole lot of SG-1 episodes, but this time I'm going to comment on every one!

I think Kawalsky was killed off because he was the only other character from the original film. I don't think this was because of any attachment we may have felt, but because he wasn't going to be a member of SG-1. He was given his own team to lead, but that team wasn't going to feature on a regular basis. So, if a major character from the film isn't going to have a major role in the series, the character has to go.

What do you base that on? We see Alexis Cruz as Skaara and Erick Avari as Kasuf in several episodes. I think the writers simply didn't see him as being a key part of the series, in early seasons simplicity is key, keep prices down and keep quality up.

Cheerful Dragon
July 3rd, 2008, 07:23 AM
What do you base that on? We see Alexis Cruz as Skaara and Erick Avari as Kasuf in several episodes. I think the writers simply didn't see him as being a key part of the series, in early seasons simplicity is key, keep prices down and keep quality up.

OK, badly phrased. Kawalsky and Ferretti were the only members of the original Air Force team (in the film) to appear in the pilot episode of the TV series. Ferretti was seriously injured in the first episode and doesn't appear again until Within the Serpent's Grasp. He doesn't appear again after that, AFAIK. Kawalsky was put in charge of SG-2. I'm guessing that fans of the film might have hoped to see him cropping up in subsequent episodes, leading that team. I agree that simplicity is key. The producers could have just dropped the character, but that would have raised questions about what had happened to him.

captain jake
July 3rd, 2008, 09:31 AM
OK, badly phrased. Kawalsky and Ferretti were the only members of the original Air Force team (in the film) to appear in the pilot episode of the TV series. Ferretti was seriously injured in the first episode and doesn't appear again until Within the Serpent's Grasp. He doesn't appear again after that, AFAIK. Kawalsky was put in charge of SG-2. I'm guessing that fans of the film might have hoped to see him cropping up in subsequent episodes, leading that team. I agree that simplicity is key. The producers could have just dropped the character, but that would have raised questions about what had happened to him.

So we agree that they killed Kawalsky off for a reason other than the fact that he was in the original movie. However, I stated that I thought that it was a budgetary type issue. Do you agree?

Cheerful Dragon
July 3rd, 2008, 10:07 AM
So we agree that they killed Kawalsky off for a reason other than the fact that he was in the original movie. However, I stated that I thought that it was a budgetary type issue. Do you agree?

Not sure about budgetary. Kawalsky would have been a minor character at best, and Jay Acovone's salary would have been no more than the actor playing Dr. Warner, for example. It certainly would have been less than Don S. Davis's and way less than the main SG-1 team's. It's my understanding that salaries are a minor component of sci-fi series, particularly the FX-heavy ones. Admittedly, the early episodes of Stargate SG-1 aren't so heavy on FX, but I'm still not convinced that Kawalsky was dumped for budgetary reasons.

Let's just agree that Kawalsky was killed off to keep things simple, to dispose of an unnecessary character and leave no loose ends.

captain jake
July 3rd, 2008, 06:40 PM
Not sure about budgetary. Kawalsky would have been a minor character at best, and Jay Acovone's salary would have been no more than the actor playing Dr. Warner, for example. It certainly would have been less than Don S. Davis's and way less than the main SG-1 team's. It's my understanding that salaries are a minor component of sci-fi series, particularly the FX-heavy ones. Admittedly, the early episodes of Stargate SG-1 aren't so heavy on FX, but I'm still not convinced that Kawalsky was dumped for budgetary reasons.

Let's just agree that Kawalsky was killed off to keep things simple, to dispose of an unnecessary character and leave no loose ends.

It's possible, however I still invite different opinions on the subject of Kawalsky's death.

Dr. Michael Benjamin
July 4th, 2008, 10:02 PM
It's possible, however I still invite different opinions on the subject of Kawalsky's death.
Please read my previous post. As I undertand it. the reason Kawalsky was killed off was because he had other obligations. He signed a deal with another TV series (don't know which) that never made it out of the testing run. At the time he didn't think SG-1 would last more than the original two season alotment given by Showtime anyway. Sadly he was mistaken.

captain jake
July 4th, 2008, 10:54 PM
Please read my previous post. As I undertand it. the reason Kawalsky was killed off was because he had other obligations. He signed a deal with another TV series (don't know which) that never made it out of the testing run. At the time he didn't think SG-1 would last more than the original two season alotment given by Showtime anyway. Sadly he was mistaken.

Do you have an interview or source in order to support your statements?

Pic
July 5th, 2008, 10:11 AM
Somewhat on topic with Kawalsky...
I didn’t find the whole Kawalsky affair as touching as I did when I initially watched the episode. I did find it interesting that his first name is Charlie and that Jack uses it frequently.

Other thoughts on terms they used in this episode, "Inbound Traveler" & "Embarkation Room" (is embarkation even a word?) I'm so glad they morphed into "incoming wormhole" and "gate room", especially gate room, embarkation is so stuffy and lame.

Side note: Jack says "oh for cryin' out loud again". I know it’s a catch phrase for Jack, but is it used every episode? Did I miss that in my first pass? Guess I'll find out.

captain jake
July 6th, 2008, 03:41 AM
Somewhat on topic with Kawalsky...
I didn’t find the whole Kawalsky affair as touching as I did when I initially watched the episode. I did find it interesting that his first name is Charlie and that Jack uses it frequently.

Other thoughts on terms they used in this episode, "Inbound Traveler" & "Embarkation Room" (is embarkation even a word?) I'm so glad they morphed into "incoming wormhole" and "gate room", especially gate room, embarkation is so stuffy and lame.

Side note: Jack says "oh for cryin' out loud again". I know it’s a catch phrase for Jack, but is it used every episode? Did I miss that in my first pass? Guess I'll find out.

I never found the Kawalsky affair touching, I always saw it as interesting. The whole embarkation room thing never bothered me. In my opinion it is still called that they just use the slang term gate room instead.

Nope he doesn't say it in every episode, but he says it a lot.

captain jake
July 6th, 2008, 03:59 AM
Somewhat on topic with Kawalsky...
I didn’t find the whole Kawalsky affair as touching as I did when I initially watched the episode. I did find it interesting that his first name is Charlie and that Jack uses it frequently.

Other thoughts on terms they used in this episode, "Inbound Traveler" & "Embarkation Room" (is embarkation even a word?) I'm so glad they morphed into "incoming wormhole" and "gate room", especially gate room, embarkation is so stuffy and lame.

Side note: Jack says "oh for cryin' out loud again". I know it’s a catch phrase for Jack, but is it used every episode? Did I miss that in my first pass? Guess I'll find out.

I never found the Kawalsky affair touching, I always saw it as interesting. The whole embarkation room thing never bothered me. In my opinion it is still called that they just use the slang term gate room instead.

Nope he doesn't say it in every episode, but he says it a lot.

pritnep
July 24th, 2008, 06:06 AM
Other thoughts on terms they used in this episode, "Inbound Traveler" & "Embarkation Room" (is embarkation even a word?) I'm so glad they morphed into "incoming wormhole" and "gate room", especially gate room, embarkation is so stuffy and lame.


Yes, especially now everything they say seems to flow and suit so well.

Bye Kawalsky. :( I personally liked the character and this episode was a great follow on from the first episode, where we were just introduced to the Goa'uld (besides the movie) and didn't have much intel on them. Maybe on the reasons I like Kawalsky was because him and Jack seemed to play each other offer in the banter so well. Wasn't he Captain in the first episode? If so they played down his rank promotion and played up this first command.

I thought it was interesting to note that General Hammond referred to Teal'c as "son". Creating that family feel which later is picked up on by Landry when Teal'c gets capture with the “Teal'c is family..." speech. I thought it was a nice touch.

Another thing we learned from this episode is that all visiting Air force officers/overseers are evil and after their own agenda.

There were also some cool shots with the Gate and the team embarking at the end. Overall an excellent following on from the first episode. :)

Spoilered are my two favourite shots of the episode - hehe one is probably the opposite to your signature image Pic-CollSwan. :)


http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6491/normalsg1102011lo1.jpg
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SG1FanOregon
August 2nd, 2008, 05:05 PM
I thought it was a good ep & a great intro of the enemy to the SGC people, it showed the basis of Teal'c character, but my biggest disappointment was during Teal'c interrogation. They never even bothered to ask why he decided to defect & that would have a huge bearing on the credibility of the info he offered them & his potential value to the SGC, Also He mentioned us as his people's greatest hope, but I could never figure out exactly what he saw in us. We're still far behind in technology. At least we have a few shuttles :cool:

pritnep
August 2nd, 2008, 06:23 PM
When Teal'c learned that SG-1 were from the people of the Tau'ri (the humans who were taken by the Goa'uld and populated the universe) he knew that he had to join us.

ValaDee
August 5th, 2008, 09:05 PM
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Was an ep of evilness...Just sorry it was the Major it happened too....:(

gateship15
August 25th, 2008, 12:38 AM
i found this episode sad since the major was jacks friend and he had to die but i guess it showed the effects of a person being posessed by the Goa'uld and that the Goa'uld are smart parasites. it is also the episode when we learn all of the humans through out the universe are from the people of earth

Jedi_Master_Bra'tac
October 17th, 2008, 12:00 PM
Ah.. the days of "omg the gate's been dialed set the self destruct" and Teal'c tattoo randomly flipping...

HAMMOND: Just what kind of an officer are you Colonel?! As long as there is a snowball's chance in hell that my officer will come out of this procedure alive, we'll go ahead with it.

KENNEDY: With respect General, I feel I should take this to my superiors.

HAMMOND: Me, I'll probably just call the President and get approval right from the horse's mouth. But sure, you go right ahead Colonel. Talk to your superiors. In the meantime people, let's get the job done.

My all time favourite Hammond moment. We wouldn't have said this in '97 but he completely owned Kennedy with the last line.

Butlersgate
February 23rd, 2009, 06:15 AM
this is an under rated episode considering how many important things happen in it.

gateship15
February 24th, 2009, 01:40 AM
i don't know if it was under rated so i can't comment on that but i agree that many important things happened in this episode

The Stig
April 20th, 2009, 03:14 PM
it was a shame they got rid of kawalsky but it was good to see that Teal'c finally proved himself. it was pretty underated,

Ulkesh47
April 24th, 2009, 04:32 PM
I just though how funny it would be if the Goa'uld took over the chevron guy.
In "Avatar", Siler gets the glowing eyes treatment, but Walter never did! :p

lordofseas
July 30th, 2009, 08:42 PM
In "Avatar", Siler gets the glowing eyes treatment, but Walter never did! :p

They should have done it in a parody episode. :/

Hjalmar
August 7th, 2009, 02:57 AM
I liked how they did the music in the operation scene, really fitting and helping the tension up...

Sp!der
August 14th, 2009, 11:11 AM
like it. but sad how kawalsky died. kinda like his character, but maybe they only wanted to focus on oneill. nice little continuation of the pilot. didnt like it much the first time around, thought was kinda boring but on the ...like fourth time ^^ nice to see how tealc proved his loyality to our world.
gave it an 8/10.

Kaltranek
October 11th, 2009, 11:50 AM
I'm a big fan of this episode. Jay Acovone is a superb actor, and his portrayal of Kawalsky was very well done.

It seems that for me, the first episode after the pilot is generally pretty poor (most of the Star Trek series, Atlantis' second episode wasn't great, "Air, part 3" from Universe) but "The Enemy Within" added so much to the series - Goa'uld possession, the start of the almost constant need for validation of the SGC and Teal'c's loyalty to the USAF and Government, the complete formation of SG-1. It also stands up very well when viewed years later, unlike certain other first season episodes.

8/10.

suse
October 11th, 2009, 12:50 PM
Yes, I've always been happy to see the actor.

When he and Amanda did that scene in the elevator, he pushed and Amanda threw herself backward a bit to hard. She ended up with a concussion! :eek: Sam sliding down the wall was Amanda sliding down the wall.

Tachyon
November 29th, 2009, 07:30 AM
This was a perfect episode to follow the pilot. Absolutely. One of my favorites from season 1, though seeing Kawalsky go didn't exactly made me jump for joy. But the fact that I was not super happy to see him go is just a sign that the writers and the actors did great job with this episode. :)

I loved the political debate over Teal'c situation as well. A great plotline to include, as well as very necessary one.

Tachyon
November 29th, 2009, 07:30 AM
d/p

mrscopterdoc
January 30th, 2010, 10:41 AM
This was a great episode, Hammond was so strong but poor Kawalsky. :(

maneth
February 6th, 2010, 11:06 AM
Great ep, loved Teal'c. What a shame about Kawalsky...

Vagabond Serpent
April 2nd, 2010, 09:34 AM
Quite good episode. Keeps you tense and hoping that this snake will be pulled out of Kawalsky, but... :( I think if he would stay in the show it'd go in a very different way sometimes... But there TPTB showed that the Goa'Uld are the threat.

EDIT: 7/10

Jacquelyn
April 7th, 2010, 01:39 PM
Yes, I've always been happy to see the actor.

When he and Amanda did that scene in the elevator, he pushed and Amanda threw herself backward a bit to hard. She ended up with a concussion! :eek: Sam sliding down the wall was Amanda sliding down the wall.

Woah really? :eek: Poor Amanda. (she's tough though. :P)

I particularly like this episode because it shows you about how the Goa'uld can be. I mean they take you as hosts and nothing of the host survives. But I though the moment when Kawalsky (aka the Goa'uld) grabs Sam and puts his hand on her mouth, that was a bit intense.. Then of course he takes her kinda as a hostage.

Girlbot
June 10th, 2010, 11:36 AM
Sad moment for Kawalsky:( I really liked that guy:(

mr_kennedy
June 10th, 2010, 08:58 PM
Sad moment for Kawalsky:( I really liked that guy:(

Me 2, shame he had to die, I guess he was just a red shirt :(

magictrick
June 13th, 2010, 09:19 AM
I had a chance to see this ep again recently and I found it funny during the operating scene, the clock keeps changing during all the different camera shots. During one shot its at 1 hr and during the next its back at 0. Then goes back up again and back to 0.

The little things you notice during a rewatch :D

rushy
July 5th, 2010, 02:07 AM
Well, I'm gonna miss the funny Kawalsky. He only appeared in Stargate, COTG, and this ep. Sooo gonna miss the poor guy.

Tallifer
September 4th, 2010, 05:34 PM
The story for this episode is interesting. This is the beginning of the series yet: how powerful are the alien symbiotes? How much control can they exert? Can they be extracted? (Is there hope for Share and Skara?)

I was however much more interested in the fate of Tealc on earth than the fate of the red-shirt Kawalsky (despite his rank). This episode did bring home the awfulness of the alien possession nonetheless.

suse
September 4th, 2010, 06:01 PM
I liked Kawalsky. He died well. Though I really like the actor so was always glad to see him. :)

ChulaksPrincess
March 5th, 2011, 05:15 PM
Major Kawalsky was a good man, and he and Colonel O'Neill seemed close. It's just too bad he died. I would liked to have seen a lot more of him. He was a great team leader too. The SGC lost a brave and true soldier.

Starfox1313
July 27th, 2011, 11:41 AM
To me I understand why they needed this episode. that doesn't mean I liked it.
Kawalsky to me I really had no feelings for him at all so him being a live or dead was whatever. The thing that gets me the most is that Goa'uld was able to survive with 80 percent of its body missing. This goes against a lot of future episodes, again second episode stuff is going to be wrong compared to future truths. But it did make you think that they are really powerfull, to survive like that.

So all in all it was a decent episode I give it a 6-10. I wonder what would be changed if they re did the first season.

Any way starfox over and out.

greytop
July 28th, 2011, 04:50 PM
Well, I'm gonna miss the funny Kawalsky. He only appeared in Stargate, COTG, and this ep. Sooo gonna miss the poor guy.Kawalsky also appeared a few more epsodes. Once in a backflash and two more as an alternative Kawalsky.

Girlbot
July 28th, 2011, 05:38 PM
Kowalsky is one of my most favorites. For the short time he was on, I found him memorable

Flak
August 1st, 2011, 07:40 PM
even know this was not the best episode, it was a great plot device to divulge info on how the symbiotes work.

favorite quotes:
"bugs on a windshield" - jack

"permission to barge in sir" - jack lol

"if you dont make it, can I have your stereo?" - jack lol

"the embarkation room" hehe (I'm glad it became the 'gate room' later)

"dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out" - hammond (he is such a bad ass)

"you cannot pass" - tea'lc (also a bad ass)

also loved the shot of the team at the end. the whole episode has some great camera work. some of the shots are long. and the one at the beginning of the gate from below looking up is very cool.

when they talked to the Goa'uld in kawalski, that was intense!

on to the next episode!

Nindif
August 2nd, 2011, 02:54 AM
when they talked to the Goa'uld in kawalski, that was intense!

I completely agree! I think Jay Acovone's performance as Possessed Kawalski in this episode is perhaps the most menacing and demonic of the entire franchise. Frightening stuff.

OK episode. Like some other comments i was far more interested in the Teal'c B plot rather than the Kawalski A plot.

I rewatched CotG Final Cut, and all those suggestions the edited ending affected the impact of this episode are innacurate. I think, if anything, the fact Kawalski is not possessed at the end of CotG is actually more surprising and a bigger twist in this episode. And there is adequate explanation and discussion in the episode the fill in the gaps.

muziqaz
August 2nd, 2011, 04:46 AM
Just rewatched for second time in past two weeks. As I am not a big fan of episodes with goa'uld it wasn't my favourite, but I as well enjoyed Kawalsky. he was portrayed perfectly having those two personalities and how he suffered. Quite a bit of info about Goa'uld.
In 1st couple of episodes Teal'c was not like himself, acted like a robot. He loosened up a bit in later episodes.

Scotaf
August 2nd, 2011, 05:00 AM
I rewatched CotG Final Cut, and all those suggestions the edited ending affected the impact of this episode are innacurate. I think, if anything, the fact Kawalski is not possessed at the end of CotG is actually more surprising and a bigger twist in this episode. And there is adequate explanation and discussion in the episode the fill in the gaps.

not having seen the Final cut I was wondering if this was the case. Thank you for the explination. I would think it would just make the beginning of "EwI" more mysterious is all. Mysterious is not a bad thing right?

Scotaf
August 2nd, 2011, 05:48 AM
I was thinking about other people who have said that this is now considered the first episode because CotG is sorta like a second movie. At first I didn't really like that idea, but after having just watched the episode through it occurs to me that if you do consider this episode the first one it is kinda poetic. This episode ends with the team walking through the gate their backs to us to explore new worlds and new places. The last episode of the series ends the same way. They book end each other, if you think of this as the first episode. That is kinda cool.

Jae'a
August 2nd, 2011, 08:06 AM
My LiveJournal entry (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/1871.html)

So what's the deal with those Jaffa coming through when the iris was closed?
Sorry, I might get a bit gross here, but Sam says that they wouldn't be fully rematerialised yet, so does that mean they didn't end up as blood splats on the other side of the iris?
Also sorry if this is a stupid question or is explained further later and I have forgotten.

dtheories
August 2nd, 2011, 09:07 AM
I also enjoyed the amount of backstory revealed in this episode, especially during Teal'c's interrogation...the Tauri, genetic memory....and, oh my, Christopher, how you've grown!
Getting the full view of the briefing room was kinda cool, as well recognizing the things we later took for granted., like MRI's and post mission medicals! Welcome Janet!

While I noted the team shot at the end, I hadn't connected it with Unending. :-(

muziqaz
August 2nd, 2011, 09:32 AM
My LiveJournal entry (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/1871.html)

So what's the deal with those Jaffa coming through when the iris was closed?
Sorry, I might get a bit gross here, but Sam says that they wouldn't be fully rematerialised yet, so does that mean they didn't end up as blood splats on the other side of the iris?
Also sorry if this is a stupid question or is explained further later and I have forgotten.

No they wouldn't end up as blood splatter on the other side of the iris ;)
It would be like particle bombardment towards the iris, thus emitting heat and radiation.

lookupwardsnshare
August 2nd, 2011, 01:35 PM
I also enjoyed the amount of backstory revealed in this episode, especially during Teal'c's interrogation...the Tauri, genetic memory....and, oh my, Christopher, how you've grown!
Getting the full view of the briefing room was kinda cool, as well recognizing the things we later took for granted., like MRI's and post mission medicals! Welcome Janet!

While I noted the team shot at the end, I hadn't connected it with Unending. :-(

I would have to agree w dtherioes about the backstory of the Tauri. It was one of the reasons why i consider it a must watch of season 1 along w the performance Jay gave as Kowalski possessed with the gou'ald and the threat they impose.

I also liked they way they shot the briefing room. We got to see it fully from both ends of the room. As the seasons go on the directors/writers discuss many times in the commentaries on how difficult it is to shot those briefing room scenes in order to present it in different ways and angles to make the scenes interesting. Maybe something to notice as u progress thru the rewatch.

jlovette
August 2nd, 2011, 01:51 PM
After rewatching this episode with CotG, I kinda see it as an extension of the pilot (much like SGU was a 3-part (hour) pilot), as this episode gave a lot info about how the symbiotes work, which is crucial to understand as the show moves forward. Overall, decent episode, but much better to come.

shelsfc
August 2nd, 2011, 02:25 PM
Loved the Jack/Kawalsky moments in TEW. I wish Kawalsky had lasted a bit longer, it would have been great to see more banter between them. It was quite an important thing to do though so early in the series, to kill off someone who had more or less been a main character up to that point. Gives an idea of just how big a threat the goa'uld were, as well as how much of a mystery they were at the time.
Also love that Jack spelt out Teal'c's name in the briefing room. That was a nice touch for the early days ;)

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
August 2nd, 2011, 02:45 PM
Just finished, what an average episode. What's really to say, SG-1 is still young and most of the episodes during the first 3 seasons were average or below.

I'm dreading tomorrow, the SG-1 episode I hate the most, Emancipation. *facepalms*

Krisz
August 2nd, 2011, 03:53 PM
I have to agree that cutting out the scenes with Kawlasky's actually being infested with the Goa'uld in COTGs did make it more of a surprise as to the threat of the Goa'uld being brought straight away into the heart of the SGC. It actually made this episode work better viewed after the remastered version.

It was sad to lose Kawalsky so early on, he was a great character and had great chemistry with Jack. I guess it really did throw in there what the new explorers can expect to face out there in the big unknown. I think that having the back of your head cut off as the gate is shut down has to be one of the worst ways to die on Stargate! Yuk!

I really loved the revelation that Earth was the mythical lost first world where humans came from, and they have a name; the Tau'ri. Also great to see how awed Teal'c was that he found himself there. One of my favourite moments in Stargate, always loved ways that the people of Earth were thought of by various races in Stargate. Either as something special or just plain ignorant and primitive! But it's this sense of humans having that potential to be influential out there in the galaxy that is sown here by Teal'c's belief that the Tau'ri are the hope for all humans out there.

Watching this again I'm amazed how nice and compactly a solid foundation was built in this episode alone.

Starmover
August 2nd, 2011, 04:37 PM
My LiveJournal entry (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/1871.html)

So what's the deal with those Jaffa coming through when the iris was closed?
Sorry, I might get a bit gross here, but Sam says that they wouldn't be fully rematerialised yet, so does that mean they didn't end up as blood splats on the other side of the iris?
Also sorry if this is a stupid question or is explained further later and I have forgotten.

I was also wondering about the thumps that were hitting the iris. I wouldn't send Jafa through, probably loyal worshipers or slaves sent through to see what's on the other side and check back. It also could've been nuke type bombs, or some type of bombs with their own version of a malp.

Starmover
August 2nd, 2011, 05:04 PM
I've just watched The Enemy Within. One thing that stood out to me was the really thick CRT monitors everywhere. Is anybody here still using one? I have one in the garage that I got with my 1st computer, back in 97. I've long since switched to LCD's and LED's. Anyway, I've always been drawn to what's on them in each episode. I also loved the way T'ealc was waiting for him up on the ramp. That was a superhero pose if I ever saw one.

Girlbot
August 2nd, 2011, 05:26 PM
I understand what Sam said about full materialization being impossible because of the iris, but what about the big whoosh thing? that would have had to have engaged fully for the thumpers to have gotten as far as they did. Wouldn't that engaging have encompassed the iris and destroyed it, just like it would destroy anyone who stood in it's path?

Starmover
August 2nd, 2011, 05:50 PM
I'm not sure... I may have to watch it again. Doesn't it woosh first, and then they close the iris? I'm pretty sure they close the iris after the woosh. I guess I didn't pay enough attention lol

majorsal
August 2nd, 2011, 05:59 PM
i thought jay did a wonderful job of kawalski freaking out/losing it about being possessed! his wonderful portrayal made me miss what he could have contributed to the series.

dtheories
August 2nd, 2011, 06:04 PM
Commented elsewhere that the re-watch reminded me that it wasn't till Janet showed up that MRIs and post-mission medicals became sop. The amount of information laid out during Teal'c's interrogation was also important...Tau'ri first mentioned, genetic memory, briefing room layout. But the "loss" of Kawalski and the pain Teal'c must feel when he realizes the betrayal after being so happy to be called friend. :-(

JacksonMiracle
August 2nd, 2011, 06:54 PM
Re-watching this episode reminded me of everything that was still being figured out about Stargate behind the scenes in the beginning. This is one of a couple episodes early on in which Teal'c's tatoo appears upside down during several shots.

I loved the fact that the writers/actors are already establishing character habits and traits that will become iconic in the coming seasons. Daniel's coffee drinking to stay awake, Jack's uncomfortableness in serious situations and his sense of humor, and Hammond's relationship with the President via the red phone.

And I'm glad they don't have to arm the base's self destruct every time there's an unidentified traveller now. What would have happened if the incoming wormhole had stayed active for more than the three minute allotment? :S

juggernaut975
August 2nd, 2011, 07:00 PM
Just finished, what an average episode. What's really to say, SG-1 is still young and most of the episodes during the first 3 seasons were average or below.

I'm dreading tomorrow, the SG-1 episode I hate the most, Emancipation. *facepalms*

It's a burden you can now share with everyone who's participating in the re-watch....we all know your pain :D

Random note, The Enemy Within is also the title of a MacGyver episode from the first season.

Noxbait
August 2nd, 2011, 07:28 PM
This episode really does feel like a continuation of the pilot. A huge three part movie. :) Kawalsky is one of my favs. I wish they hadn't offed him so soon. I'm glad they did bring him back several times in AUs etc. He was funny and a good character to balance with Jack. He was military, a guy's guy and just interesting. He so could have been a recurring character! He also did a great job portraying the horror of the possession. I imagine this entire situation was pretty hard for everybody to take. Daniel and Jack were getting first hand experience seeing what Sha're and Skarra were going through, Teal'c was being introduced to a world that wasn't really welcoming him and he was dealing with how his actions had hurt these people.

It is a nice episode to learn more details and personality of each of the characters.

on a side note, i couldn't help but think about how much Jack's quip about getting Kawalsky's stereo reminded me of his line to Daniel in, I think it was Origin in S9, about being hungry or getting lunch or something like that. (been too long) Anyway, he used the same sort of light hearted humor here to kind of encourage Kawalsky and lighten the mood as he does all those years later. It just really struck me that Jack hasn't changed! I liked the balance of it.

anyway...I like this episode. :jack:

jlovette
August 2nd, 2011, 11:56 PM
Two episodes and we already have two "for cryin' out louds" from Jack. I'm curious to see how early Teal'c's "indeed" shows up. On to Emancipation.

LeftHandedGuitarist
August 3rd, 2011, 08:19 AM
This episode works so much better for me that the pilot. It eschews the epic action of COTG and has a strong character-based focus and setting, and is all the better for it. I always enjoyed Stargate the most with these bottle shows which remained on base and really explored in depth.

It's far less cheesy that COTG (apart from Kawalsky under the influence of the Goa'uld - "release me noooooooow!!!") - Teal'c and General Hammond are still a far cry from what they would become, but O'Neill has a lot more of the humour we are used to. Carter wears far too much makeup!

I always felt this was a strong episode, in no small part due to the fact that Kawalsky dies. I remember being quite shocked when I first saw it air, being used to Star Trek where everyone was always safe, and I knew this show was going to be different.

Some unanswered questions for me:

-It's been brought up before, but I believe this is the first time we see this quite clearly: the Stargate activates with the iris closed, but the wormhole does no damage. I'm always confused why the iris survives every gate activation.
-It's mentioned that the prisoners from Chulak have been sent home, but to where? And how were their gate addresses figured out?

7 out 10.

muziqaz
August 3rd, 2011, 08:27 AM
I understand what Sam said about full materialization being impossible because of the iris, but what about the big whoosh thing? that would have had to have engaged fully for the thumpers to have gotten as far as they did. Wouldn't that engaging have encompassed the iris and destroyed it, just like it would destroy anyone who stood in it's path?
No, because Iris is so close the event horizon, it does not have a space to energise. I am like Jack on this, get confused a lot with all that technical stuff :D
But I think in '100 days' episode Sam explains why they couldn't get malp through for the 1st time and why whooosh thing did not make a cavern for malp to go.

Girlbot
August 3rd, 2011, 10:29 AM
Some unanswered questions for me:

-It's been brought up before, but I believe this is the first time we see this quite clearly: the Stargate activates with the iris closed, but the wormhole does no damage. I'm always confused why the iris survives every gate activation.
-It's mentioned that the prisoners from Chulak have been sent home, but to where? And how were their gate addresses figured out?

7 out 10.
I believe it was mentioned that they were returned to Chulak. I remember Teal'c asking Jack

LeftHandedGuitarist
August 3rd, 2011, 10:32 AM
Ah-ha, good stuff. That would make sense.
I just caught a couple of moments from a season 4 episode on TV, and there's a startling difference between the visual look of the show compared to season 1. They really got a bigger budget as the show went on and put it to really good use. Even the cinematography is different.

poundpuppy29
August 3rd, 2011, 11:58 AM
I didn't like this ep to start with but I liked it more this time Jack was great in this ep

mathpiglet
August 3rd, 2011, 12:23 PM
I was also wondering about the thumps that were hitting the iris. I wouldn't send Jafa through, probably loyal worshipers or slaves sent through to see what's on the other side and check back. It also could've been nuke type bombs, or some type of bombs with their own version of a malp.

I can imagine the Goa'uld standing there. "Send through a slave." They toss one through. How would they know from that side if he made it or not?

Do they send through a bomb first, hoping to destroy the shield? Then send through a slave or Jaffa? I would assume they send through someone with a communication device to let them know they have made it through.

juggernaut975
August 3rd, 2011, 02:09 PM
I like what someone said earlier about this being the third part of a three episode trilogy to kick the series off.

Noticed Teal'c's symbol flipped over from being upside down early on (talking to O'Neill) to right side up (his fight with the possessed Kawalsky). Never noticed it until someone pointed it out, since then it just jumps out at me :)

Forgot what a brutal episode this was, not only in the very matter of fact way Kawalsky was dealing with the possession and, what he saw, was the only way out of it to the way Teal'c and O'Neill ended the threat by shutting off the gate.

You can tell even at this early stage that this wasn't going to be a rehash of standard TV science fiction.

Matt G
August 3rd, 2011, 03:08 PM
A week after I saw the very cool new(to me) show called Stargate SG1 it was another Sunday afternoon and a very good reason to check up the new episode. A couple of years later and I rewatch the ep, this time in German and unedited, freaking out the people in the language lab in the process. A year or two after that and I happened to snap this ep up on DVD as part of a SG1/DVD magazine series I tried out(and quickly ditched as the mag didn't tell me anything I didn't already know from online).

So...

1. Liked the exchanges between Jack and Kawalsky and from the start was gutted for Jack when his friend died. Kawalsky was a familiar name from the movie and I had assumed initially that he was going to be there for the long haul.

2. As a result, I was actually surprised when it had turned out that the surgery had not removed the Goa'uld. OK...call me a naive moron if you want...

3. Jack did start to grow on me though in this ep, way earlier than the others did.

4. Teal'c...well I sympathised with his situation...but still I felt I knew Kawalsky better than him at this point.

5. The amount of times I tried to anticipate when the symbiote would "rear it's butt ugly head" on this viewing was fun.

6. In the Kawalsky vs Sam fight I couldn't help fladhing back to an online feature I first remember watching circa '01(in my Hall of Residence Flat first year of Uni) with AT talking about it and saying "...when you saw Sam crumpled in a heap...that was in fact Amanda crumpled in a heap!".

Traveler Enroute1
August 3rd, 2011, 06:11 PM
SG Rewatched episodes: 101, 102.

The things we discover/remember when rewatching episodes!

Enemy At The Gates was a very emotional episode. It crystallized for me early on that this was a well thought out military culture, especially as we note Jack, Hammond and Sam's concern for Kawalsky; the Pentagon's Col. Kennedy and his defensive mindset regarding a soldier's sacrifice, and even the doctor having to follow orders no matter what his doubts were.

At one point I agreed a bit with Kennedy, that Kawalsky's life was already lost and they had at hand an enemy to study. Maybe with time they would be able to find a safe way to remove the symbiote. But then I thought: the symbiote would be maturing during that time and a fully grown one wouldn't increase Kawalsky's chances at all. I do admit to a bit of surprise that the military didn't press this considering the immense new threat to the entire planet, but hey, Hammond's clout apparently goes a long, long way!

I agreed a lot with what Krisz said about losing Kawalsky so soon. His rapport with Jack was great onscreen, with neat banter. And when Kawalsky realized he was infested with the enemy, I had to gulp as his tears ran down his face. A seasoned soldier wouldn't fear death the way he feared his situation. A lot of feeling well depicted here.

Some other thoughts:


Loved the tension in all of them as the siege continued. We come in on the near end but they've all had it.
The iris doesn't look so formidable in this episode; thank goodness for later developments.
The Jack/Teal'c scene showed the bonding of two stoic warrior types. Interesting combination.
Sam's immediately suspicious of Kawalsky in the gateroom and alerts O'Neill and Hammond. Why?
The Tau'ri are legend! Thought provoking stuff to consider earth with its technology as the prehistoric race of the galaxy!
The SGC and American government are now fully aware of the threat to earth as they bear witness to symbiote infestation.
Trivial spotting: WHAT was that water fountain doing in the hall, where we always see troops high tailing it during red alerts? My mind saw a huge bottleneck if one soldier ran into it and the following ran into him and...:P OK, maybe it was some side hallway, but it still looked odd there.


I liked the way this episode linked directly with CoTG, giving a sense of continuity even though this is obviously some weeks later. As Jack and Teal'c regard the body of the former soldier, we see a new dynamic emerge; one good man lost, another good man found. And nothing beats the thrill of watching the new SG-1 gather in the Gateroom and then go up that ramp and into the event horizon. Wowzer, indeed!

Rate: 4/5

All righty, then; see ya at Emancipation!

neoncrazy101
August 3rd, 2011, 06:32 PM
Its been forever since I've watched these episodes thus I've realized some things that I've never seen before. Like how they used to set the self destruct for every incoming worm hole. One mistake that I've found so far (I'm halfway these this episode) is that when they sent the radiation team in, the gate was off, then in another view of the radiation team up there you can see the blue behind it as if the gate was activated lol.

SF_and_Coffee
August 3rd, 2011, 07:14 PM
I liked the way this episode linked directly with CoTG, giving a sense of continuity even though this is obviously some weeks later.
Just a note: I'm pretty sure (as in, 99.99% sure) that this isn't actually supposed to be weeks after COTG at all. It's basically a day or so later, at most. COTG and The Enemy Within are contiguous in timeframe.

Traveler Enroute1
August 3rd, 2011, 07:32 PM
Just a note: I'm pretty sure (as in, 99.99% sure) that this isn't actually supposed to be weeks after COTG at all. It's basically a day or so later, at most. COTG and The Enemy Within are contiguous in timeframe.

My bad; the way they talked about the constant dialing in and Daniel's sleeplessness, it sounded like a longer time.

Lieutenant Sparrow
August 4th, 2011, 03:58 AM
Kawalsky was really great in this ep. Well done to his actor. I really felt the struggle between him and the symbiote.

Definitely one of my favourite eps this season.

chaddergate
August 4th, 2011, 10:10 AM
Its been forever since I've watched these episodes thus I've realized some things that I've never seen before. Like how they used to set the self destruct for every incoming worm hole. One mistake that I've found so far (I'm halfway these this episode) is that when they sent the radiation team in, the gate was off, then in another view of the radiation team up there you can see the blue behind it as if the gate was activated lol.

I noticed the same thing.
As for the whole episode, I thought it was a good continuation from the pilot, and also thought Kawalsky was superb in this one!

Darth kat
August 5th, 2011, 04:23 PM
even know this was not the best episode, it was a great plot device to divulge info on how the symbiotes work.

favorite quotes:
"bugs on a windshield" - jack

"permission to barge in sir" - jack lol

"if you dont make it, can I have your stereo?" - jack lol

"the embarkation room" hehe (I'm glad it became the 'gate room' later)

"dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out" - hammond (he is such a bad ass)

"you cannot pass" - tea'lc (also a bad ass)

also loved the shot of the team at the end. the whole episode has some great camera work. some of the shots are long. and the one at the beginning of the gate from below looking up is very cool.

when they talked to the Goa'uld in kawalski, that was intense!

on to the next episode!

Loved all those quotes. I LOL'd when Jack asked for the stereo. Teal'c saying "You cannot pass" reminded me of Gandolf (LOTR) saying "You shall not pass!"

Darth kat
August 5th, 2011, 04:32 PM
Just finished the episode. Great episode! As others mentioned, Jay Acovone did a great job of portraying the struggle between the symbiote and Kawalsky. Loved the fight scenes when the symbiote took over, poor Sam :sam49:. It kind of bugged me though when they showed that they only cut half of the symbiote (as shown on the monitor) and didn't bother worrying about the portion that had extended into the brain. 8/10

SG1Member
August 5th, 2011, 07:15 PM
For a relatively low-key episode, this one was very well done, I thought. And it started a trend on the show that Gateworld dubbed the "Kawalsky Effect" in an article, where supporting characters are killed off seemingly at random. Other victims include Sha're, Martouf, Narim, even Janet Fraiser. It's tragic, but it adds to the drama of the show and its conflicts.

Jolinarsam
August 5th, 2011, 07:54 PM
Did anyone else ever think that Jay Acovone who plays Kawalsky actually looks a lot like French Stewart's Ferretti from the Stargate movie? I wonder if he was originally going to play that part but they decided to give him the bigger role.

Also noticed that Hammond's favorite line has got to be: "You're in no position to make demands." He's two for two so far this season. :hammond06:

SG1Member
August 5th, 2011, 07:54 PM
My favorite moment of the ep, of course, is at the very end with SG-1, newly-formed, embarking on their very first mission as a team through the Stargate. A sign of great things to come!:)

Blizzah
August 6th, 2011, 06:56 AM
Just finished the episode. Great episode! As others mentioned, Jay Acovone did a great job of portraying the struggle between the symbiote and Kawalsky. Loved the fight scenes when the symbiote took over, poor Sam :sam49:. It kind of bugged me though when they showed that they only cut half of the symbiote (as shown on the monitor) and didn't bother worrying about the portion that had extended into the brain. 8/10

I agree the acting was first class and the transition between Kawalsky and symbiote were fantastic. I was also in diseblief that the thought they had all the symbiote when on the screen it was clear there was more. You would think that the part in the brain would be the most important to get..:).

Badhron
August 6th, 2011, 01:06 PM
Did anyone else notice that the Apophis symbol on Teal'c's forehead is upside down in the scenes where he is in the cell?

Darth kat
August 6th, 2011, 02:08 PM
I agree the acting was first class and the transition between Kawalsky and symbiote were fantastic. I was also in diseblief that the thought they had all the symbiote when on the screen it was clear there was more. You would think that the part in the brain would be the most important to get..:).

That's ok. I forgive them since the acting and lines were top notch. :jack_new_anime07:

~NASHARA~
August 6th, 2011, 05:59 PM
It seems to me that the militaristic side of the show is more prominent in the early episodes then later on. The discussion General Hammond has in his office with the officer from Langley about Teal'c is a very firm example. They're talking like they're giving each other orders. It's not like we lose the military feel as the show progresses, it just becomes less pronounced.

Cairistiona
August 7th, 2011, 11:23 AM
Yes, it's still very formal, the military personal stands up when Hammond enters the room.
The acting was great, and I loved the shot at the end when the team walks through the gate for the first time.
I liiked Daniel still leaving his coffee cups everywhere, and of course Jack's "If you dont make it, can I have your stereo?"

jelgate
August 8th, 2011, 05:17 PM
To me this feels like an extension of the pilot. And while I find COTG medicore I find this episode beyond fantastic. A rare gem from the early years. I love the torture of Kawlasky as he dies and how this affects SG1 and Hammond. Although one thing that always ticks me off is how Warner only removed part of the symbiote. Maybe that is why Dr. Fraiser became CMO of the SGC:P

This episode also starts early roots of the NID. I always wondered why Col. Kennedy never returned instead of bringing in Maybourne. But it does a good job where Teal'c will stand being an alien.

Starscape91
August 8th, 2011, 10:39 PM
Just finished watching The Enemy Within. First of all I have to say that the protrayl of Kawalsky and his battle with the symbiote within was great. I forgot how they used to say embarcation room and thank god they started saying gate room instead. Plus the whole self destruct thing everytime the gate activated was kind of annoying and potentialy problomatic seeing as how the gate can be activated for longer then the self destruct. Except those two things I have to say the episode was great and reminded me of how suspicous the government was of Teal'c at the beginning. It was also nice to see the relationship between Jack and Kawalsky and see how close they were.

KayLyne
August 8th, 2011, 11:29 PM
It seems to me that the militaristic side of the show is more prominent in the early episodes then later on. The discussion General Hammond has in his office with the officer from Langley about Teal'c is a very firm example. They're talking like they're giving each other orders. It's not like we lose the military feel as the show progresses, it just becomes less pronounced.
Another thing I'm glad they got rid of after a few episodes was all of the extra military "Brass" in dress blues sitting at the briefing table, but never saying anything. That always annoyed me. If you're going to have them in the scene, make it seem like they're a needed part of the show.

Sealurk
August 9th, 2011, 04:56 PM
This remains one of my favourite episodes, largely because of the surprisingly dark and horrific tone and the body horror aspect of the Goa'uld being the focus. Also because we see that the events of Children of the Gods have immediate consequences and Teal'c gets to prove himself.

hlndncr
August 10th, 2011, 11:36 PM
I was thinking about other people who have said that this is now considered the first episode because CotG is sorta like a second movie. At first I didn't really like that idea, but after having just watched the episode through it occurs to me that if you do consider this episode the first one it is kinda poetic. This episode ends with the team walking through the gate their backs to us to explore new worlds and new places. The last episode of the series ends the same way. They book end each other, if you think of this as the first episode. That is kinda cool.

IMHO the series ended with fishing.

The spin-off they called S9 & S10 ended with that other team walking through the gate. (Unless you count the encore performance at the end of 200 with the real SG-1 walking through the gate together.)

jelgate
August 11th, 2011, 07:40 PM
IMHO the series ended with fishing.

The spin-off they called S9 & S10 ended with that other team walking through the gate. (Unless you count the encore performance at the end of 200 with the real SG-1 walking through the gate together.)It doesn't work that way. Personal preference doesn't change the series finale of SG1

hlndncr
August 11th, 2011, 07:46 PM
It doesn't work that way. Personal preference doesn't change the series finale of SG1

It does for me. That's why it's my opinion, which I am entitled to. (And I didn't watch SGU either because I don't consider it truly Stargate, which is also my right.)

And in fact, even TPTB wanted S9 & S10 to be a different series called "Stargate Command." The fact that SyFy (that bastion of astute programing decisions) insisted that it keep the SG-1 title doesn't make it the same series from my POV.



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jelgate
August 11th, 2011, 07:51 PM
It does for me. That's why it's my opinion, which I am entitled to. (And I didn't watch SGU either because I don't consider it truly Stargate, which is also my right.)

And in fact, even TPTB wanted S9 & S10 to be a different series called "Stargate Command." The fact that SyFy (that bastion of astute programing decisions) insisted that it keep the SG-1 title doesn't make it the same series from my POV.



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Opinions don't overide facts. Its still a fact that SGU is Stargate and S9 and S10 are part of SG1

hlndncr
August 11th, 2011, 07:56 PM
Opinions don't overide facts. Its still a fact that SGU is Stargate and S9 and S10 are part of SG1

A version thereof; that I prefer to ignore. As entertainment I'm not required to entertain everything that is presented to me.



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hlndncr
August 12th, 2011, 01:43 PM
Just getting caught up on the rewatch discussion.

I think I may be in the minority that I'm glad they didn't keep Kawalsky around. First of all, I liked the actor from the movie better. (I have nothing against JA, and I think he does a great job in all of his appearances; it's just my personal preference.) As I understand it the PTB tried to hire the guy from the movie but he didn't want to do a series so they promised to off him in the first couple of eps, but he still didn't want to do it. When they signed JA to play Kawalsky he was willing to do a series but they had already decided to get rid of his character.

Second, I think the dynamic between Jack and Kawalsky as old buddies would have overshadowed the team, as it clearly did in this episode. I'm fine with that for one episode, and I think this story called for it and was a good one to tell right off. But I wouldn't have been happy for it to continue.

I also prefer the ending to the original CotG over the recut (other than some pacing, music and effects improvements I don't consider the recut an improvement) because it leads into this episode so well. It was really a brilliant stroke at the time. Imagine you're watching this pilot for a new show and you think maybe all tune in next week. Then at the end you see one of your main good guys (from the movie no less) with his meanacing glowy eyes. You'd have to come back. I have no idea what the initial ratings were like, but ending like that was a great way to keep your audiance for the next outing.

Then at the end we see our team, for the first time as our team on the ramp off on their next adventure, despite the very real risks and dangers that have just been brought home to them.

Love it!




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SF_and_Coffee
August 14th, 2011, 10:24 AM
I think if they had kept Kawalsky for the series, it would have been possible to do it without overshadowing the team aspect of SG-1. Kawalsky would have had his own team, and the show could even have occasionally explored that aspect and character group... and then in situations when SG-1 was in trouble, guess whose team is going to show up and help? Kawalsky's... and then you get to play with the O'Neill-Kawalsky dynamic a bit.

hlndncr
August 14th, 2011, 01:52 PM
I think if they had kept Kawalsky for the series, it would have been possible to do it without overshadowing the team aspect of SG-1. Kawalsky would have had his own team, and the show could even have occasionally explored that aspect and character group... and then in situations when SG-1 was in trouble, guess whose team is going to show up and help? Kawalsky's... and then you get to play with the O'Neill-Kawalsky dynamic a bit.

Personally, I wasn't so enamored of the O'Neill-Kawalsky dynamic that I cared to play with it. I'm glad that the secondary teams had mainly minor characters. I liked Reynolds and while I maybe could have seen more of him I wasn't bothered that he stayed in the background. They used Makepeace to good advantage storywise. I enjoyed getting a peek at SG-13's mission in Heroes. That about did it for me.

Kawalsky was just to important a character with too much history not to take a place on center stage when he was around, which is why I think they used him appropriately when he was in the story. I think if he had been a regular he would have been on the team. And since I love my team the way it was (Jack, Daniel, Sam and Teal'c) I just can't imagine how it could be any other way, and I don't want to.




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fems
August 14th, 2011, 03:28 PM
If they kept Kawalsky (either on SG-1 or as SG-2 team leader) it would have probably turned into more of a boys' club. Or like Janet once said: this man's army. The banter was good between them, but I agree that he was put to good use in the show. Although he could have also had the same fate as Ferretti if they'd kept him alive, i.e. to go off the radar after a few appearances.

SF_and_Coffee
August 14th, 2011, 03:34 PM
I think putting him on the team with Jack would have made it top-heavy in terms of rank; they'd have been far more likely to give him SG-2, which in fact is what occurred in the series, except that he died before we got to see any of that really move forward. And I don't think he'd have been used in every episode, either; more than likely he'd have functioned more as a recurring character who showed up in perhaps every fourth or fifth episode. But giving Jack a foil in the form of someone he's known since his pre-Stargate days would, IMO, have fleshed him out even more fully and dramatically as a character... not that he wasn't anyway, but I think we might have seen aspects of him that we never got to see, and I find that thought intriguing. Not that this should surprise anyone, perhaps...

Dumdidu
October 28th, 2011, 07:43 AM
Now, i am a litte late to the rewatch, but i hope i can join the currently season in a few weeks :).
So, today i have watched "The Enemy Within". I am sad too, about Kawalskys death at the last minutes.
At first, i had the hope, that Kawalsky survive his symbiont, but than as he is running to the gate and fight with tealc i need to realize, that he will die. :(

I dont know, if kawalsky dont die. Perhaps it will be nice, that he has his own team and so he sometimes join the sg1 team, to help them. I would like this :).

Dimes
December 23rd, 2011, 09:57 AM
Not the best episode, but we get to know that the Goa'uld is powerful.

Pym
May 5th, 2012, 03:22 AM
This episode was good in the way it showed how Goa'uld operate and just how nasty they can be . But I am gald Kalwalsky is not hanging around. The team needed to be able to learn about each other on each mission , this way they all argue with each other and have individual opinions, Kalwalsky seemed to be Jacks yes man.

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SF_and_Coffee
May 5th, 2012, 10:15 PM
I never saw Kawalsky as "Jack's yes man" at all. Rather, he was someone who had worked with Jack before and was Jack's friend as well. I always wished he'd been kept alive and around, as I really would have loved to have had him in the picture as a source of insight into Jack O'Neill the man... because Jack wound up being portrayed as a man in a vacuum, a man with no lasting friendships from his life prior to the Stargate project and I think that rendered him almost two-dimensional for a while, rather than as a three-dimensional human being and a well-rounded character.

Lunaeclipse
May 7th, 2012, 06:03 PM
Kawalsky was a carry over from the movie... I think he gained a large respect for Jack after what he did on Abydos and beacause of that trusted Jack's judgement.

Darkland
July 14th, 2012, 08:21 PM
Poor Kawalsky. But his character death will not go unavanged and it was not a senseless death. In a way his prescene in SG1 or as a leader in SG-2 was not needed. His treatment of Sam in the two hour premiere was disgusting and hence why I enjoyed his death very much. :)

It was still sad though.

Major_Clanger
September 16th, 2012, 08:46 AM
I don't think his treatment of Sam was disgusting, can you give an example?

I think his character reacted in a fairly (unfortunately) typical way for a professional military man when confronted by an extremely competent military woman.

What this ep did was give us some background to the Goa'uld without making it too much like: "look, we're telling you this stuff that you need to know or the show won't make sense", kind of way.

I also kind of got the impression that the PTB had to give Kowalsky and Ferretti an out, so that we can concentrate on SG-1 without being too tied into what the movie set up. I thought Kowalsky was brave, and scared and the bit with him and Jack over the stereo was great.

Not sure that I liked how he was still influenced by an immature goa'uld even after it had been killed and removed, that seemed to be a weak plot-point for me. But it was a brave and dignified exit for a character who had to go.

SF_and_Coffee
September 16th, 2012, 09:06 AM
I don't think his treatment of Sam was disgusting, can you give an example?

I think his character reacted in a fairly (unfortunately) typical way for a professional military man when confronted by an extremely competent military woman.
This. I also think there was an element of testing/teasing involved. Had he been kept around as a long-term character, he'd probably have gotten along just fine with Sam.


I also kind of got the impression that the PTB had to give Kowalsky and Ferretti an out, so that we can concentrate on SG-1 without being too tied into what the movie set up. I thought Kowalsky was brave, and scared and the bit with him and Jack over the stereo was great.

Yep, they gave him some dimension and depth, which was good. And the brief insight into Jack's role as a friend made Jack more well-rounded as well. Of course, it left me wanting more.


Not sure that I liked how he was still influenced by an immature goa'uld even after it had been killed and removed, that seemed to be a weak plot-point for me. But it was a brave and dignified exit for a character who had to go.
Actually, it hadn't been killed and removed, and that was the whole point. What had been removed was some kind of sloughed-off portion of the symbiote's body -- its brain was still intact and connected to Kawalsky's. (And yes, I realize this doesn't jibe with what we're told of Goa'uld physiology in later episodes; I'm pretty sure the writers were still experimenting with all of that when they wrote "The Enemy Within". After all, the series did include several retcons from time to time.) So he was under the influence, and occasionally the control, of the immature Goa'uld right up to the moment of his death.

Major_Clanger
September 16th, 2012, 11:16 AM
see how long it is since I've seen the later eps? :D

One of the things that I have consistently praised over the years has been some of the simple dialogue and character that the writers have given us. It's very noticeable that they have watched military people and how they act around each other

(but don't get me started on the awful awful radio procedure and weapon handling :D)

tlw
October 20th, 2012, 12:03 PM
Did anyone else ever think that Jay Acovone who plays Kawalsky actually looks a lot like French Stewart's Ferretti from the Stargate movie? I wonder if he was originally going to play that part but they decided to give him the bigger role.

Also noticed that Hammond's favorite line has got to be: "You're in no position to make demands." He's two for two so far this season. :hammond06:

I noticed that also, his personality seemed more in line with Feretti from the movie.

When they thought they had removed the goa'uld but it had become one with him. What did that mean exactly? That it intergrated itself into his brain so well, that they couldn't tell on an MRI after the operation. Because when he died when the back of his head was cut off, it looked like pieces of it fell out. Unless it was supposed to be pieces of brain.

tlw
October 20th, 2012, 12:08 PM
I just thought of another question. Did Feretti end up being the commander of SG2 after Kawalsky's death.

SF_and_Coffee
October 20th, 2012, 12:47 PM
I just thought of another question. Did Feretti end up being the commander of SG2 after Kawalsky's death.
Yes, he did.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
October 22nd, 2012, 08:08 AM
At least for a while. SG2 changes over the years.

Seaboe

filter
November 4th, 2012, 04:22 AM
If they removed most of the goa'uld body during the operation, how would it potentially move to another host in the future? Or would it just grow it back

SF_and_Coffee
November 4th, 2012, 09:22 AM
It wasn't going to move to another host, it was going to remain in Kawalsky and control him.

ngewakl
December 13th, 2012, 03:01 AM
Season 1 episode 2 of my rewatch. A nice episode that ends with the death of kowolsky. Only criticism of it is that maybe kowolsky's death should have come a couple of episodes down the road. It would have helped to develop emotional ties to the character and make his death even more sad. But all in all, it was a good episode. Next up episode 3 emancipation.

Anoobis
January 2nd, 2013, 12:47 PM
You know what's funny about this? The symbiote that possessed Kawalsky was a "baby snake" from a Jaffa, not a grown one like the one that jumped into Share's neck. How can one of those already act like a grown Gould? As far as I remember, no such "larva jump" has ever been performed again in the entire series.

The episode itself was of course another epic classic. The first "foothold" situation of some sort, and the best way for Teal'c to prove his loyalty.

Durgia
January 2nd, 2013, 05:28 PM
You know what's funny about this? The symbiote that possessed Kawalsky was a "baby snake" from a Jaffa, not a grown one like the one that jumped into Share's neck. How can one of those already act like a grown Gould? As far as I remember, no such "larva jump" has ever been performed again in the entire series.

The episode itself was of course another epic classic. The first "foothold" situation of some sort, and the best way for Teal'c to prove his loyalty.

I always assumed the Goa'uld was right on the verge of taking a host anyway and made the jump a few weeks early. If the Jaffa had survived the symbiot would most likely have been changed and eaten by a system lord.

Anoobis
January 3rd, 2013, 05:53 AM
Yeah, and also, the worm didn't always have control over the host, so that explained it. Anyway, it was strange. :)

Vagabond Serpent
January 10th, 2013, 10:20 PM
I always assumed that that one symbiote was about to change and looked for a host desperately, perfectly knowing how it'll end up otherwise. And that baby snake moment could be an actual excuse for a sloughed off skin Warner get out of Kawalsky, leaving the head in. Did we ever get a glimpse on how the change between larva and adult Goa'uld happens? Maybe sloughing off is natural in that process, and then parasite grows into that big black snake from a tiny black snake.

Anoobis
January 12th, 2013, 06:59 AM
Yuck. ^^ Don't wanna imagine that, lol. :)

bradjohnson
April 29th, 2013, 06:40 AM
I've just started re-watching SG1 and I watched The Enemy Within today. I believe this episode is a great one to ease into the first season. After Children of the Gods, the Goa'uld seem all powerful. This episode shows through the fact the immature symbiotic Goa'uld could not maintain control over Kawalsky. All in all a real episode favorite of mine!

Falcon Horus
May 16th, 2013, 05:47 AM
Those were the days when there was still talk about the embarcation room, the self-destruct activated every time an incoming wormhole was established, guards rushing forward in case the titanium shield wouldn't hold... Kennedy talking about how America is the only important part of the world when he discusses the threat-level with Hammond (...our country has ever seen -- no mention of the world whatsoever).

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
August 7th, 2013, 07:10 PM
definitely an interesting episode post pilot but it was sad to see Kawalsky go. i would've liked to have seen him interact with all of the SG-1 members through the years.

SF_and_Coffee
August 7th, 2013, 09:29 PM
definitely an interesting episode post pilot but it was sad to see Kawalsky go. i would've liked to have seen him interact with all of the SG-1 members through the years.
I would've too. He would have also made a great lens through which to explore Jack's psyche, given their pre-existing friendship.

Sealurk
August 8th, 2013, 06:16 AM
Dramatically it makes sense - we needed to see just how evil, threatening, manipulative and insidious the Goa'uld were, which this episode delivered beautifully - but I suspect it would also have been much more powerful to have lost Kawalsky to the Goa'uld later in the season, after the audience had got to know him better and formed an attachment.

It's still in my top three episodes though.

fems
August 8th, 2013, 06:56 AM
No, I'm glad they offed Kawalsky. Don't get me wrong, I like the character and was pleased to see him return briefly in POV. However, if Kawalsky had stayed it would have turned in the Jack&Kawalsky show or he would have ended up like Ferretti (forgotten after season one).

Lunaeclipse
August 8th, 2013, 04:34 PM
Dramatically it makes sense - we needed to see just how evil, threatening, manipulative and insidious the Goa'uld were, which this episode delivered beautifully - but I suspect it would also have been much more powerful to have lost Kawalsky to the Goa'uld later in the season, after the audience had got to know him better and formed an attachment..

like they did on SGA with Ford (except with the enzyme not a Goa'uld)?

Seaboe Muffinchucker
September 4th, 2013, 07:39 AM
Season 1, disc 1, episode 2. I have mixed feelings about this episode. It (unlike the pilot) sowed the seeds of a lot of things that became canon (Charlie's friendship with Jack, Jack's humor in dire situations, the naming of the DHD). On the other hand, I think it would have been nice if this were a little farther into the season. Say, episode four or five. That would've given us time to see the friendship between Jack and Charlie, and would have provided opportunities for an immature Goa'uld to attempt to sabotage the SGC (providing a episode arc).

Seaboe

AsgardGirl
September 13th, 2014, 06:39 AM
I don’t know why I remembered this episode as boring one. And it is actually were interesting one. It is direct continuation of the pilot. It has more exposition on goa’ulds. It explains how Teal’c became part of SG-1. I was interested in Kowalski fate and I wish he didn’t, even I knew he will. Actually the first time I saw this episode I was really surprised that Kowalski died, I was thinking that he will be one of the regular character in the show.

garhkal
September 13th, 2014, 08:22 PM
I wondered why they decided to kill of Kowalski as well..

Mnikolic
September 14th, 2014, 03:36 AM
They did bring him back in S08... briefly. I believe that was in Ripple Effect.

jelgate
September 14th, 2014, 07:14 AM
Wrong. It was Moebius. I believe the reason TPTB said the reason they killed Kawlasky was to show how threatening the Goa'uld were

dipsofjazz
September 14th, 2014, 08:11 AM
He also appeared in The Gamekeeper (s2x04) and Point of View (s3x06).

garhkal
September 16th, 2014, 11:12 PM
I thought he also showed up in ripple effect.?

jelgate
September 17th, 2014, 06:42 AM
He did not

Lunaeclipse
September 18th, 2014, 09:04 PM
http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Charles_Kawalsky_-_List_of_Appearances

maneth
August 2nd, 2015, 10:00 AM
I enjoyed this one. Again.

Janet Fraiser
August 2nd, 2015, 11:21 AM
I like how often Kawalski "returned" throughout the early series. Looks like he comes back again in season eight? Looking forward to it.

garhkal
August 4th, 2015, 12:01 AM
I felt it was wrong they killed him off. Besides the older actor who played "good father" Kasuuf, he was the only original actor from the film to make the cross.

Britta
August 4th, 2015, 12:12 AM
I felt it was wrong they killed him off. Besides the older actor who played "good father" Kasuuf, he was the only original actor from the film to make the cross.

Kawalsky was played by someone else in the movie.

Lunaeclipse
August 4th, 2015, 11:46 PM
I felt it was wrong they killed him off. Besides the older actor who played "good father" Kasuuf, he was the only original actor from the film to make the cross.

Skaara was the same actor in both the series and the original movie.

garhkal
August 5th, 2015, 02:15 AM
Kawalsky was played by someone else in the movie.

I thought him and Feretti were the same actors.

Britta
August 5th, 2015, 02:25 AM
I thought him and Feretti were the same actors.

Nope. Just Kasuf and Skaara.

Lunaeclipse
August 5th, 2015, 10:24 AM
http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Charles_Kawalsky

There is a pic of both actors who played Kawalsky in the link (Stargate wikia)

Anja
September 6th, 2015, 07:02 AM
Well played episode but Kowalski had to die - would have been too easy to get rid of a symbiote just like that, that colonel had to be sacrificed. :(

Seaboe Muffinchucker
September 8th, 2015, 12:18 PM
Nitpick: Kawalsky wasn't a Col., he was a Major.

Seaboe

Falcon Horus
September 8th, 2015, 01:48 PM
Nitpick: Kawalsky wasn't a Col., he was a Major.

He was indeed.

Lunaeclipse
September 8th, 2015, 02:55 PM
He was indeed.

lol I read that in Teal'c voice.

Falcon Horus
September 9th, 2015, 12:47 AM
lol I read that in Teal'c voice.

:lol:

Falcon Horus
October 16th, 2017, 04:10 PM
Two things I shall start with:

1) my DVD set has two menu language settings, French and English, and it's the French it starts with. I do have Dutch subtitling, which I don't actually need but it's there.

and 2) being reminded I don't have to watch the intro with Ra's mask for 5 whole seasons. Oh my goddess, I was so sick and tired of that mask in the end.

The Enemy Within is a bit of a dip after Children of the Gods, and I don't understand why Kawalsky had to go already. Okay, I get they want to show what a larvae, even a young one, can do, and that the host may or may not survive somehow. But come on, Kawalsky?! He survived two missions to Abydos and the one to Chulak -- give the guy a break. :p

Charming fella that Colonel Kennedy -- :S.
Aliens, if ever they come to visit, should give Earth a wide berth cause we like to cut things up and study it. Cut first, ask questions later. And immediately considering Charles collateral damage just to get his hands on the larvae -- damn, that's harsh man.

General Hammond really set the tone for him in this episode though. He sticks up for his men, much to Kennedy's annoyance, I bet. And even sticks it up for Teal'c. It does take O'Neill some persuading but he eventually gets his way, and the Jaffa gets a place on his team. Perfect fit.

How would you rate SG-1's "The Enemy Within?"

Excellent
Good
Fair
Poor
Terrible

I give this one a fair cause it didn't wow me, and I did feel a little bored in the middle like I wanted them to get on with it.

mooseman
October 16th, 2017, 06:17 PM
Embarkation room? The What? ;)

I hate this episode, mainly because of Kawalsky's fate.
It's pretty dangerous being an MD at the SGC.

I'll give it a FAIR.

Falcon Horus
October 18th, 2017, 01:51 AM
Embarkation room? The What? ;)

I can't remember when it turned to gate room, but that was like... the what now? I guess, it fits in line with what McKay wanted to call the puddlejumper, gateship. Or was it Ford, can't remember. Gateship, it's a ship that goes through the gate, gateship. Thank the gods, they stuck to puddlejumper. :p

jelgate
October 18th, 2017, 09:37 AM
It was both of them really. I think it was Ford's idea

Quantumentanglement
October 18th, 2017, 10:55 AM
It is hard for me to watch this episode too because of Kawalsky's fate. What is especially frustrating was that it looked like they saved him! One funny part is when Hammond softly interrupts O'Neill and Kawalski and says "How about you go where I tell you!". He showed he can be authoritative but not an A-hole.

Falcon Horus
October 18th, 2017, 12:22 PM
Hammond does have to put up with a lot with O'Neill though. Man shows a great deal of patience. He totally wins at patience. :p

garhkal
October 18th, 2017, 01:39 PM
Hammond does have to put up with a lot with O'Neill though. Man shows a great deal of patience. He totally wins at patience. :p

And what always shocked me is even AFTER oneill disobeyed orders, you never saw any ramifications?

Falcon Horus
October 19th, 2017, 12:47 AM
And what always shocked me is even AFTER oneill disobeyed orders, you never saw any ramifications?

Oh my goddess, he got away with so much... I can't imagine in reality he'd get away with half of it.

jelgate
October 19th, 2017, 12:51 PM
*taps foot* Where is my quiz and puzzle. Going with tradition I'm going to disagree with FH. I really love The Enemy Within. It's like the last third of the pilot. It's more of a character piece of getting SG1 together and where they stand as a team. As for Kawlasky, it never bothered me. I understood why they did it. To make your enemies meancing you have to make it personal. Kawlasky's death upped the stakes with the Goa'uld. Although if Frasier did the surgery instead of Warner, she would have killed the whole parasite

garhkal
October 19th, 2017, 01:02 PM
Oh my goddess, he got away with so much... I can't imagine in reality he'd get away with half of it.

If it was a real millitary unit, he would have been in courts martial so fast for some of what he did, we wouldn't have seen him for the REST of the season..

Falcon Horus
October 20th, 2017, 02:29 AM
*taps foot* Where is my quiz and puzzle.

That's a weekend-thing -- will probably happen tonight since I haven't had much time this week.


If it was a real millitary unit, he would have been in courts martial so fast for some of what he did, we wouldn't have seen him for the REST of the season..

He wouldn't have made it past his first week on the job. :p