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PG15
January 5th, 2009, 07:50 PM
Writer: Martin Gero
Director: Ernest Dickerson

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And we have another title! But first, some history...


Rob is eyeing #6 which offers a most intriguingly SF door in

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/november-11-2008-spinning-stargte-universe-day-one/


With five stories in place, we turned our attention to episode #6 today, beating out Marty G.ís very first SGU script. This one involved a long, loooooong discussion on the workings of a certain technology which forms the impetus to another terrific character-driven story.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/11/14/november-14-2008-jelly-on-the-mend-and-spinning-stargate-universe-day-4/


PG-15 writes: ď1. Who is writing episode 6?
2. Who is writing episode 7?
3. Who is writing episode 8?
4. Who is writing episode 9?
5. Has the director schedule for Universe been lined-up yet?Ē

Answers: 1. 6 = Martin Gero. 2. 7 = Robert Cooper. 3. 8 = Alan McCullough. 4. 9 = ? 5. Nope.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/12/23/december-23-2008-montreal-bound/


Itíll be interesting to see how things have progressed since November on the design front and whether any further casting decisions have been made. Rob reports that that episode 3 is almost complete. Martin apparently has a first draft of Earth.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/january-5-2008-snow-1-fondy-0/

Ok, so there you are. Discuss!

LostCityGuardian
January 5th, 2009, 10:21 PM
What's the chance that #4 and #5 will be called Fire and Water respectively (in either order)?

Bobby
January 5th, 2009, 11:31 PM
geesh theres names are a bit ordinary...i hope they change

TheHomegaMan
January 6th, 2009, 01:05 AM
geesh theres names are a bit ordinary...i hope they change

I somehow doubt the show is being aimed at the crowd that considers an episode's name to be any sort of judge of quality.

reddevil18
January 6th, 2009, 02:09 AM
geesh theres names are a bit ordinary...i hope they change
Yes, to "The One Where There's Air" and "The One Where There's Earth" and, the always-popular "The One Where Characters Swap Bodies".

Madwelshboy
January 6th, 2009, 02:41 AM
Well TPTB have said that Earth plays some sort of part in SGU, this is probably the first episode that deal/introduces that fact

reddevil18
January 6th, 2009, 02:52 AM
If it weren't for the fact that it's the 6th episode, I'd have thought that this would be the episode where they first get to a planet. You know, the premiere deals with them getting on the ship, maybe struggling to fix vital systems, that kind of crap...But, like I said, the 6th episode is way too late to have it be the first one where they visit a planet...Or at least, it is in my opinion.

Mclean
January 6th, 2009, 03:34 AM
Itís definitely more character-centered and intimate in its exploration of the interpersonal dynamics that will drive a lot of the shipboard developments (and, no, Iím not talking about romance).

That'll do for me :) Sometimes on Atlantis I felt the team didn't interact enough.

GateofDOOM
January 6th, 2009, 03:39 AM
So...all the elements get an episode?

:P


I predict this is the episode where they re-establish contact with planet earth. (Contact...not travel capabilities). Oy.

Course I could be wrong and it could be all about them musing, angsting etc about what they'd be doing if they could go home. Background info episode on the main characters, how they all got there and what not. Some kind of memory device?

Option two would be better! C'mon writers, prove me wrong!

SGFerrit
January 6th, 2009, 04:08 AM
This will probably be the episode where they discover they can...

inhabit other people's bodies back on Earth by using the Ancient technology.

And Fire and Water was an episode of SG-1, so maybe they're just finally getting around to the ones they missed;)

The Prophet
January 6th, 2009, 04:34 AM
Well, I'm hoping for an episodic appearance of the classical element; Void. :D

Seeing as it's quite a big, empty Universe and all.

fyere
January 6th, 2009, 04:54 AM
Wow, I hope this won't be one of those series where every episode has a vague 'artsy' one-word title. :D Like.....what's that one that does? Smallville or something?

'Earth', huh? Could mean any number of things....

Mclean
January 6th, 2009, 05:06 AM
It could end up like Star Trek DS9. Where it avoids an episodic format and instead features multi-episode story arcs. It would be interesting and I personally liked the way DS9 ran.

BeardedKirk
January 6th, 2009, 05:28 AM
I'm going to go with 'Air' being about their greatest adversary at the time (lack of) oxygen, with possibly at least 1 planet being visited.

Ep4 to plant the begginings of a power struggle between Dr Rush & Col Young

Ep5 Introduce the Long range Communications device (most likely using a Cisco router like all Comms networks :))

Ep6 An actual Coup/Rebellion (Think 'Crimson Tide' in space)

And that is as far as i've got at the mo...



:ronan:

Or i'm so utterly completely wrong & i'll be in for a nice unpredictable series.

jrd231
January 6th, 2009, 05:57 AM
I'd like to see the team be able to communicate with Earth, but not right away. One of the things I loved about season 1 of SGA was that they had no contact with Earth. I think they established contact with Earth too early in that series. Obviously in my opinion, episode 6 is way too early. I'd like to see it go as far as the end of season 2 or the middle of season 3. Of course, they don't know if the show will even make it that far.

BeardedKirk
January 6th, 2009, 06:10 AM
I'd agree, the more they are on their own then the grittier it can be as there would be no info updates, no new supplies, no orders & new personnel....


I remember reading th- (don't ask me where), that the long range communications device was going to used by one of the team so that she could find out what her friends really thought of her (Very teen drama-ish) but this also might imply that although they can contact Earth they can not choose who and it is at rrandom with no one guaranteed to believe them.

So they could do it as early as episode 6 but not have the SGC aware of it.


:ronan:

frostwolf
January 6th, 2009, 08:52 AM
So the new article on gateworld list Earth as the 4th episode. I thought it was still supposed to be the 6th episode. Any ideas on where in the season it will be?

Briangate78
January 6th, 2009, 09:54 AM
Guest Starring...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iknEJf9cPeY

Orion Antreas
January 6th, 2009, 10:16 AM
Guest Starring...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iknEJf9cPeY

LMAO!

That would be hilarious.

As for the title, 'Earth', I think it could prove great to use simple titles like this that have a deeper meaning to them. Also, I think once in awhile they should use fancy titles, but it is interesting with the path they are going down with the titles. 'Air', 'Earth'...

BeardedKirk
January 6th, 2009, 01:10 PM
Guest Starring...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iknEJf9cPeY

AWESOME!

They could easily pass as Ancients, maybe as Holograms of the Ancients who could tell the team about the history of the ship & crew. And knock out some hip grooves!!!!

(Seriously someone should really stop me from posting... :)


:ronan:

AnnieS
January 6th, 2009, 02:42 PM
Considering the name of SGI's premiere "Children of The Gods" introduced us to the Goa'uld choosing hosts for their symbiotes, The Goa'uld's being "God's'.

And in Atlantis's premiere, the title was "Rising", the most important of the premiere being the city rising to the surface of the ocean. Still gives me chills everytime I see that happen.

So considering the Universe is set in space on a Ancient Starship. The title "Air" makes perfect sense to me!!!

rosey_angel
January 6th, 2009, 02:53 PM
hmm Earth. interesting title. could mean a lot of things; getting contact with earth, finding another planet aka earth to potentially land the ship on, another earth-like planet but with non-humans, memories of earth.

someone on page one said it might be one where they think of how they all came to be on the ship, and i like that idea. this ep might be like FF's Out Of Gas, perhaps?

yay for gero writing, i love his work. i recently saw YPF and that was superbly written, so i can't wait for this one :D

Boon
January 6th, 2009, 04:07 PM
So...all the elements get an episode?

:P



I'm not looking forward to the "Boron" (http://www.webelements.com/boron/)Episode... Gonna be dull...





((see what I did there... BORon... dull... get it !))

rosey_angel
January 7th, 2009, 01:12 AM
^hahaha i got it.

Boon
January 7th, 2009, 05:44 PM
eeeeeeexcellent....

the fifth man
January 7th, 2009, 05:56 PM
hmm Earth. interesting title. could mean a lot of things; getting contact with earth, finding another planet aka earth to potentially land the ship on, another earth-like planet but with non-humans, memories of earth.

someone on page one said it might be one where they think of how they all came to be on the ship, and i like that idea. this ep might be like FF's Out Of Gas, perhaps?

yay for gero writing, i love his work. i recently saw YPF and that was superbly written, so i can't wait for this one :D

I really like the idea of that also. It would give us a lot of insight into things about the characters we don't yet know.

Gen_J_O'Neill
January 8th, 2009, 04:28 AM
I really like the idea of that also. It would give us a lot of insight into things about the characters we don't yet know.

I'll second that! It would be a great way to get to know the characters quite quickly too. If it is that I hope they use a lot of flashbacks, 'Lost' style.

flameling
January 8th, 2009, 04:09 PM
I really like the idea of that also. It would give us a lot of insight into things about the characters we don't yet know.

I agree. I just really hope that they don't get the ability to contact Earth this early, Atlantis didn't have it untill the end of the first season!

rosey_angel
January 9th, 2009, 12:28 AM
personally, i hope they aren't able to contact earth at all. that way they'll have to find ways to adapt to short food supply, lack of ammo, and stuff like that

Ziel
January 9th, 2009, 01:45 AM
I completely agree with it being to early to establish contact with Earth in the series.

GateofDOOM
January 9th, 2009, 02:58 AM
What's the chance that #4 and #5 will be called Fire and Water respectively (in either order)?

Guess what.....

Water (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=62853)

:D


I'm not looking forward to the "Boron" (http://www.webelements.com/boron/)Episode... Gonna be dull...





((see what I did there... BORon... dull... get it !))

:P

Boon
January 12th, 2009, 01:42 PM
If it is that I hope they use a lot of flashbacks, 'Lost' style.

No, that was Lost's thing... and it was annoying... and distinctly un-stargate.
You really don't want to start taking key elements like that from other shows, one's that are so identifiable, that people go "hey they did that on such and such" or you are just going to end up with a derivitive, cobbled together piece of trash. nobody wants that... least of all the guys in charge.
Granted the occasional flashback is effective exposition, but three or four every episode is jarring and breaks up the flow or the storytelling and really just feels like procrastination... or dragon ball Z... where it takes a week to order a sammich...

Jumper_One
January 30th, 2009, 08:12 PM
Well, back in the office today where we spun what will be episode #7. It made sense for it to follow the events of Earth, so we moved it up and shifted the other episodes. For those of you worried, fear not. The mid-season two-parter will still fall in the mid-season two-parter slot.

Speaking of which - I aim to finish the fourth act tomorrow and hopefully make some inroads into the fifth act. Of course, fifth acts tend to practically write themselves so that should be a breeze. First draft byÖnext week? Possibly? Brad, meanwhile, is motoring along on Fire. Martin delivered his revised Earth and Carl did the same for Water. Yet another version of Air 1, 2, and 3 came out yesterday as well. As for Paul - well, when heís not in the room spinning or watching auditions, heís in his office listening to those Ricky Gervais/Stephen Merchant pod casts. Every so often, I hear him burst into laughter - like one of those crazy derelicts that always seem to follow you around after 9:00 p.m. on a Friday night. Heís patiently awaiting notes on his outline for the second part of the mid-season two-parter. Hopefully, theyíll be coming his way next week.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/january-30-2009-jean-georges-comes-to-vancouver/

rosey_angel
February 4th, 2009, 05:55 AM
^ cool, thanks for that

Jumper_One
February 12th, 2009, 11:28 PM
So, weíve got our first three episodes on deck - Air #1, #2, and #3 - and veteran director (and cyrogenic-system cooled super magnet collector) Andy Mikita will be doing the honors. Brad is working on Fire and, from what I hear, is very happy with the way itís coming along. Itís a great story and, as Iíve already said, right up Bradís alley. Looking forward to reading the first draft. This episode will see a certain fan favorite retake the directorís chair. Marty G. sent in his revised version of Earth weeks ago, but we have yet to sit down and discuss. Carl, meanwhile, completed his rewrite on Water and awaits word on whether heíll be doing another pass or handing it off. At 57 pages and given the type of episode it is, Rob feels heís going to need to trim it down. Rob has had his hands full, dealing with prep issues, but, in the interim, has been spinning episode #7 in his head. This one promises to be a lot of WTF?! fun. Carl also submitted an outline for episode #8, received notes, and is poised to do a rewrite - just as soon as he finishes work on a certain movie script. Paul has landed the polish of episode #9 and Iím presently tinkering with the my completed first draft of episode #10. Episode #11 is still in its initial outline stage, but freelance script and episode #12 is shaping up to be a very interesting dilemma story.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/02/12/february-12-2009-pre-production-update-and-those-things-better-left-said-or-unsaid/

Jumper_One
February 18th, 2009, 02:46 AM
Air #1, #2, and #3 are prepped and ready. Water awaits a polish. Brad reports he should have a first draft of Fire sometime next week. Martin awaits word on Earth while elements of Time accumulate and coalesce in Robís mind.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/02/17/february-17-2009-poised-for-production/

rosey_angel
February 18th, 2009, 03:03 AM
thanks for all the updates Jumper_One

Butlersgate
February 19th, 2009, 10:52 AM
I completely agree with it being to early to establish contact with Earth in the series.

ia but it could be about them finding a possible way for it to happen but then it fails so the name of the episodes referes to them trying to make this plan to contact "earth"

PG15
March 7th, 2009, 09:47 PM
Hey, a new source of info: Marty G.'s Twitter (http://twitter.com/martingero)!

And from there, we have:


Just found out who they got to direct "Earth". AWESOME. Can't wait.

http://twitter.com/martingero/status/1280945226

PG15
March 10th, 2009, 08:32 PM
Small update:


I read the revised Earth script. Rob completed his pass yesterday and it is terrific.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/03/10/march-10-2009-the-culinary-highlights-some-dogs-discussion-and-dog-discussion/

PG15
March 13th, 2009, 10:17 PM
Update:


Rob put out his pass on Earth and itís terrific. The Chloe scene merits special mention - but nothing beyond the fact that it merits special mention because of the secrecy surrounding anything to do with the show. I was going to post (what I assumed to be a fairly innocent and non-spoilery) a pic of the Icarus base logo only to have headquarters put the kibosh on it. Iím thinking in about two weeks, however, I should have the all-clear to finally upload some photos of actor David Blueís footwear.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/03/13/march-13-2009-good-news-bad-news-scripts-secrecy-and-mailbag/

DeeKayP
March 16th, 2009, 04:41 PM
Spoilers from audition sides at Solutions (http://stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/2009/03/sgu-spoilers-earth/). Could be considered pretty big spoilers as far as possible casting.

jackson2009
March 16th, 2009, 05:23 PM
WOW! they go too far! :daniel::thor:

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
March 17th, 2009, 07:11 AM
hey if Jack O'Neill is in this episode then i hope he will be in the three part season premire since some of it takes place on earth. its not a stargate series without o'neill being in it. with earth, i think i might just like SGU

leiasky
March 18th, 2009, 02:13 PM
hey if Jack O'Neill is in this episode then i hope he will be in the three part season premire since some of it takes place on earth. its not a stargate series without o'neill being in it. with earth, i think i might just like SGU

Oh, if only. It would be nice. I like that Daniel will be in an episode but I'd prefer to see Jack.

Jumper_One
March 31st, 2009, 04:40 PM
I was down on Stage 5 today watching Director Ernest Dickerson calling the shots on Earth. [...]
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/03/31/march-31-2009-my-five-second-stint-as-a-camera-operator-the-kino-revealed-and-my-top-10-favorite-stargate-episode-titles/

reddevil18
April 1st, 2009, 12:12 AM
Ernest Dickerson? He's never directed an episode of SG before. But he's worked on a lot of shows.

leiasky
April 1st, 2009, 04:30 PM
Well, RDA was spotted at the airport the other day on his way to Vancouver. I'd say that's a positive sign that Jack will be in 'Earth' as they're filming it this week . . .

Jumper_One
April 2nd, 2009, 10:12 PM
As for the actual episodes: Ernest Dickerson continues to do a bang-up job directing Earth, Peter DeLuise is in the editing room working on Fire, and Andy Mikita is putting the finishing touches on Air I, II, and III, promising us a cut by late tomorrow.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/april-2-2009-waiting-for-the-other-vengeful-shoe-to-drop-peter-deluise-wants-to-hear-from-you/

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
April 7th, 2009, 08:32 PM
so Earth is the fifth Episode?

PG15
April 15th, 2009, 06:59 PM
Update:


Phil writes: ďI saw that Janelle Monae is appearing in an ep of Universe. Do you know which one it will be?Ē

Answer: The talented Ms. Monae will make an appearance in Earth.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/april-15-2009-kerry-fires-the-opening-salvo-smooth-sailing-on-the-atlantis-script-and-the-mailbag/

Madwelshboy
April 24th, 2009, 01:12 AM
Robert Cooper is working on his producerís cut of Earth and is awaiting notes on his brilliant script for Time as his prep week approaches.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/april-23-2009-its-like-that-episode-of-sg-1-where-the-team-has-to-introduce-a-foreign-element-into-the-sun-of-another-planet-in-order-to-save-the-worlds-inhabitants-except-that-instead-of-the/

PG15
April 30th, 2009, 01:26 AM
Marty G. twitters...

http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=10106308&postcount=5955

PG15
May 4th, 2009, 09:18 PM
Update:


PG15 writes: ď[...] 2. What is episode 7 of SGU?Ē

Answers: [...] 2. 7 = Earth.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/05/04/may-4-2009-a-deadline-looms-dogs-at-play-and-the-mailbag/

SGFerrit
May 5th, 2009, 03:14 AM
So either Air is a four parter, Fire is a two parter, or Water is a two parter. That's how it's looking now, they can't really plonk another episode in so early on in the season can they?

jenks
May 5th, 2009, 08:10 AM
So either Air is a four parter, Fire is a two parter, or Water is a two parter. That's how it's looking now, they can't really plonk another episode in so early on in the season can they?

Probably. They will have finished filming the entire season by the time the show starts airing I think.

SGFerrit
May 5th, 2009, 08:36 AM
Either way, considering they seemed to have a plan for at least the first few episodes (Air, Fire, Water and Earth) I'd say it's unlikely that they've decided to stick a brand new episode idea in there.

Coronach
May 5th, 2009, 01:15 PM
Either way, considering they seemed to have a plan for at least the first few episodes (Air, Fire, Water and Earth) I'd say it's unlikely that they've decided to stick a brand new episode idea in there.

I'm inclined to agree. Joe did make a really big deal about how cool Fire was, and what a shame it would be to cut out a lot of the stuff. Personally, I'm hoping for a two-parter of Fire :P

major davis
May 5th, 2009, 01:24 PM
Either way, considering they seemed to have a plan for at least the first few episodes (Air, Fire, Water and Earth) I'd say it's unlikely that they've decided to stick a brand new episode idea in there.

agreed, my guess is either Fire is a two parter, cause Joe said it was running way long, or mabye water, cause it seemed like they took forever to film it. Seriously doubt air is a 4 parter

Orion Antreas
May 5th, 2009, 01:26 PM
Either way, considering they seemed to have a plan for at least the first few episodes (Air, Fire, Water and Earth) I'd say it's unlikely that they've decided to stick a brand new episode idea in there.

I am leaning towards Fire becoming a two parter. There were concerns that there was so much content in 'Fire', they feared great character moments that were important would be lost. Mallozzi said they were looking for any solution to this possible.

Coronach
May 5th, 2009, 01:29 PM
I am leaning towards Fire becoming a two parter. There were concerns that there was so much content in 'Fire', they feared great character moments that were important would be lost. Mallozzi said they were looking for any solution to this possible.

Agreed. I actually just posted this same thing in the speculation thread a few minutes ago :P.

major davis
May 5th, 2009, 01:32 PM
Agreed. I actually just posted this same thing in the speculation thread a few minutes ago :P.

Wow, you have been on GW 1 month and have 400= posts. WOW,

I agree with you

Orion Antreas
May 5th, 2009, 01:45 PM
Agreed. I actually just posted this same thing in the speculation thread a few minutes ago :P.

Yeah, I got side-tracked. Lol. I took a long time to type it. I was watching a movie. Anyways, it looks like a lot agree or believe like we do. :P

PG15
May 14th, 2009, 04:27 PM
Small update:



Went by Stage 4 today to pay Director Peter DeLuise a visit and ended up chatting with actor Lou Diamond Philips who called me out on my three-piece suit and tie attire. Despite his long and accomplished career, Lou remains an incredibly down-to-earth and genuinely appreciative individual. A class act, a great guy and, an equally great actor. His performance in Earth had the producersí offices abuzz.



http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/05/14/may-14-2009-big-book-of-the-month-club-news/

PG15
May 24th, 2009, 08:46 PM
Small update:


Goliath writes: ďSo Marty G. is writing more episodes of SGU than you? I thought you were the staff writer? Is he technically a ďfreelancerĒ now? I donít understand all the differences here.Ē

Answer: When all is said and done, Martin and I will end up writing the same number of scripts: 2. Before the season kicked off, we all gathered together and spun the first ten(ish episodes). He landed an early episode. I landed a later episode. Since his episode was earlier in the schedule, he got his in first and, as a result, was given a story idea that Exec. Producer Rob Cooper had pitched out. [...]

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/may-24-2009-extinction-update-ever-closer-to-that-comic-book-series-and-the-mailbag/

Madwelshboy
May 28th, 2009, 09:52 AM
From Craig Engler (Craigatscifi)'s Twitter


Checking out a cut of the SGU ep "Earth".

http://twitter.com/Craigatscifi

PG15
July 10th, 2009, 02:48 PM
Small update:


101,102,105 Finals, 107 Temps......What a week.

http://twitter.com/marksavela/status/2562309288

PG15
July 30th, 2009, 09:46 PM
Tweet tweet tweet...


@martingero Day 2 mix of Earth. Awesome.

http://twitter.com/cpbinder/status/2937836089

PG15
August 6th, 2009, 01:57 PM
Small update:


Final vfxs for 101,102,105,107 yesterday, finals for 103 today, temps for 106 tomorrow....busy week.

http://twitter.com/marksavela/status/3146881801

PG15
September 16th, 2009, 08:08 PM
Small update:


And wait till you see darkness/light, earth,water, time, life. It just keeps building.

http://twitter.com/BrianJacobSmith/status/4033700296

leiasky
October 30th, 2009, 10:33 AM
So are there any other spoilers out there concerning this episode?

prion
October 30th, 2009, 11:06 AM
So are there any other spoilers out there concerning this episode?

Let's see, we have the singer appearing in this episode, so since it's Earth, it must be on Earth, so we'll have a nightclub scene. It only makes sense.

Trying to envision who would end up there... I'm hazarding it would be Chloe. and that a lot of the episode will take place on Earth. Maybe. So who would go with her.... hmm....

Wonder if Telford, er, Young is gonna go back to visit the ex-wife. I think she's an ex-wife, or at least a wife who's definitely dumped the hubby.

Oh oh, they've got Ryan Kennedy - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0448317/ - in episode, and Richard Dean Anderson.

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
October 30th, 2009, 06:05 PM
looks like Telford is going to be using young's body

TheRandomOne
October 30th, 2009, 06:22 PM
So if Telford takes command whos in command when Telford is not in Youngs body ? I guess Telford & Young will be the first to experiment

Pharaoh Atem
October 30th, 2009, 06:31 PM
i've been skipping the trailer to avoid spoilers but i did watch this one and i am looking forward to next Friday

:jack: surprise...... :D love that line

Dark lord me
October 30th, 2009, 07:33 PM
So at then end of the episode when Young was walking down the corrider there are three people yeling at him. I heard. "I was scheduled to use the stones this morning" or something along those lines. Ugh well I can understand since they managed to turn off the DNA lock everyone should have a go and chance to say good bye but thats all not regular contact other then high ranking officers.

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
October 30th, 2009, 07:56 PM
So if Telford takes command whos in command when Telford is not in Youngs body ? I guess Telford & Young will be the first to experiment

well only LDP is only in Air (1) Air (3), Darkness, Earth and Maybe Life. but im not sure cause Wikipedia is saying hes in 5 in the first 9 episodes.

VFX
October 30th, 2009, 08:59 PM
So are there any other spoilers out there concerning this episode?

You want spoilers?


Young, Eli & Chloe use the stones.

Eli & Chloe go to a club. Eli picks up girls with his 'new' body. Chloe has argument with friends. Chloe & Eli leave club. Chloe cries & takes comfort in Eli who has conflicting feelings about her.

Young in Telford's body gets intimate with Young's wife. Somehow, Telford is aware of this.



Hope that satisfies for now!

;)

MattSilver 3k
October 30th, 2009, 09:02 PM
Anyone know when the trailer will be online?

jelgate
October 30th, 2009, 09:04 PM
probably tomorrow.

MattSilver 3k
October 30th, 2009, 09:06 PM
probably tomorrow.

Cool.

Anyway, about the episode, I'll make a solid prediction: If all the things that happen in the episode match up with VFX's spoilers in the post above my previous one, I predict... forum drama of sorts! Dun dun dun.

SBN
October 30th, 2009, 10:13 PM
Cool.

Anyway, about the episode, I'll make a solid prediction: If all the things that happen in the episode match up with VFX's spoilers in the post above my previous one, I predict... forum drama of sorts! Dun dun dun.

Gateworld has 7 days to upgrade their servers before the massive explosion of posts.

leiasky
October 30th, 2009, 10:39 PM
You want spoilers?


Young, Eli & Chloe use the stones.

Eli & Chloe go to a club. Eli picks up girls with his 'new' body. Chloe has argument with friends. Chloe & Eli leave club. Chloe cries & takes comfort in Eli who has conflicting feelings about her.

Young in Telford's body gets intimate with Young's wife. Somehow, Telford is aware of this.



Hope that satisfies for now!

;)


Uhm. Yeah. So - anyone have some believable spoilers?

dahok
October 30th, 2009, 10:49 PM
Uhm. Yeah. So - anyone have some believable spoilers?

They coincide with the early promo shots I saw of it.

I saw Eli with Chloe back home, looks to be leaving a nightclub. He's somewhat carrying her off, she could be trashed I assume.

You can't have bikini mud wrestling without Water and Earth.

Rush: Destiny is critically low on its reserves of dirt.
Young: What?
Eli: **puzzled**
Scott - Giggity

pipi
October 30th, 2009, 11:04 PM
They should let anyone use it for recreation, like to watch a new movie or go on a holiday :P

Avenger
October 30th, 2009, 11:23 PM
In one of the earlier episodes, Young said that everyone would get a chance to use the stones to let their families know what was going on. What happened at the end of this episode just fits in line with what was said in a previous episode.

jcoy
October 30th, 2009, 11:38 PM
I think that was Volker. I'm sure the SGC wants reports from the scientists too. I mean they're paying these guys to do science. And I would think there would be plenty to do on Destiny. It's not like everyone was just siting in their rooms while Young and Scott where getting the ice. :) On Icarus they could just email them, but the communication stones are the only way to get information back to Earth, and only whats in the head of the person who uses them.

They probably just sit in that room (stone room?), write up their reports then go back. Very boring, so no reason to show it. Although it could be funny in an episode that centered around some of the secondary scientist characters.

Arlan
October 30th, 2009, 11:42 PM
It's not like everyone was just siting in their rooms while Young and Scott where getting the ice. :)

Actually they were - what with all the searching of quarters and confinement to quarters due to killer alien bugs.

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
October 31st, 2009, 01:39 AM
Uhm. Yeah. So - anyone have some believable spoilers?

actually from the video i saw on MGM in the earth page it does show a lot of what actually was said in the above spoiler post.

MattSilver 3k
October 31st, 2009, 02:49 AM
Got a Youtube Link to the promo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF53ugUeX9M

Probably a higher quality one somewhere, but it does the job.

Wow. I was expecting a nice episode with some character developments, and we see what makes some of them tick as they go home using the stones. We may not have planet exploration (Life and Time, the following two, probably do - maybe they're looking for food?), but we do seem to have some Chloe stuff, some tension between Young on Earth, a dangerous plan, Telford couping the Destiny - for realz this timez - Destiny's guns blazing, a crackling Stargate and someone gets exploded!
My guess on the one being blasted would be Riley, since pics on JM's blog have the actor suited up in one of those suits.

"Surprise!" Gotta love that old guy!

Madwelshboy
October 31st, 2009, 03:11 AM
Stargate Universe - Episode 1.07 - Earth - Promo (Good Quality)

http://www.spoilertv.com/2009/10/stargate-universe-episode-107-earth_31.html


Stargate Universe - Episode 1.07 - Earth - Promotional Photos

http://www.spoilertv.com/2009/10/stargate-universe-episode-107-earth_8468.html

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
October 31st, 2009, 03:15 AM
http://www.iimmgg.com/image/8132a68bb0a2d5e2dabb622a37f81047
is it me or does that woman look pregnant to u?

Osiris
October 31st, 2009, 03:52 AM
Who is that band playing in the club? The girl reminds me of the lead singer from Noisettes.

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
October 31st, 2009, 03:53 AM
that would be Janelle Monae

Osiris
October 31st, 2009, 03:54 AM
Oh thanks, I just checked IMDB! Interesting...

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
October 31st, 2009, 03:55 AM
yeah this episode will be interesting. this is the one episode i've been waiting to see and i hope im not disappointed.

thekillman
October 31st, 2009, 05:14 AM
we do not know whether those stones are ancient. the stone pads dont look ancient, the ancients used Terminals, even in pegasus (Identity).

also, just because stones were around, and the ones we know have the ATA gene requirement, doesnt mean all stones have. we saw in AOT that the Terminals existed for some time, and we do not know how old the ATA tech is. it's possible some stones predate that.

VFX
October 31st, 2009, 05:15 AM
Uhm. Yeah. So - anyone have some believable spoilers?

Wow! So quick to judge.

So you probably wont agree on the probability of a Porsche driving Eli & Chloe getting drunk in the club.

MattSilver 3k
October 31st, 2009, 05:17 AM
So at then end of the episode when Young was walking down the corrider there are three people yeling at him. I heard. "I was scheduled to use the stones this morning" or something along those lines. Ugh well I can understand since they managed to turn off the DNA lock everyone should have a go and chance to say good bye but thats all not regular contact other then high ranking officers.

Why deny people who aren't supposed to be there, and have plenty of time to spare for a little stone trip, to visit Earth? To go home?

MattSilver 3k
October 31st, 2009, 05:24 AM
Uhm. Yeah. So - anyone have some believable spoilers?

Mmmkay!

Look it, they're so believable, I won't even tag 'em! So, back in Atlantis, McKay manages to rig a puddle jumper with Super HyperDrive Model F (Models A through E being shown in a montage proving that McKay and the rest of his scientists had been working very hard!), and he takes it for a spin. He appears near the Destiny, as they all go slowly insane from lack of food, water, and the gossip spreading between the gossipy folks ("So I hear that James' left breast cheated on Scott with Greer!" "Oh, and Eli used a Kino with Chloe to... umm... it's been recorded. Wanna see it?")

Where was I? Oh, McKay jumps on board and starts fixing everything, after asking Greer to hold him gunpoint so he'll be motivated into working faster. Destiny's in control of the Super!McKay, and he single-handledly pilots it home. He gets a big ol' medal, while the Destinites (The one's who survived hearing about Scott's latest conquests) all leave their ship and have a nice cup of tea.

Oh, and that episode's called Earth because its size compares nicely with McKay's ego and his ability to pull miracles out of his pale arse! :D

Commander Zelix
October 31st, 2009, 05:55 AM
They probably just sit in that room (stone room?), write up their reports then go back. Very boring, so no reason to show it. Although it could be funny in an episode that centered around some of the secondary scientist characters.
If its such a boring and trivial thing then why was "Volker" so pissed off when something make him skipped his turn?

Sonicbluemustang
October 31st, 2009, 06:23 AM
The problem with the stones is serious controll should be kept on the use due to the fact that abuse can occur during use and no one would be the wiser. :) Like whats gonna happen with Telford.

leiasky
October 31st, 2009, 08:49 AM
Wow! So quick to judge.

So you probably wont agree on the probability of a Porsche driving Eli & Chloe getting drunk in the club.


Someone else said it above. Those stones are bad enough in the show as it is. Using them for recreation is just unbelievable. Why aren't they keeping tight control over these stones AND what is done with them? They're in the Pentagon for gods sakes. Anyone who uses them is a national/planetary security risk. Anyone who uses them to speak with their family needs to be doing it IN the Pentagon, not going off to their families wherever they may be. Meh. Too much of a security risk.

Rodney_Mckay
October 31st, 2009, 10:55 AM
Surprise! :jack:

Spimman
October 31st, 2009, 11:39 AM
I am a huge SGU fan, but I'm less excited about next week than I have been about any week before...these stone episodes seem kinda lame, I hope I'm wrong though!

DavidR
October 31st, 2009, 11:53 AM
Carter, McKay, and other scientists have come up with a plan to bring Destiny to Earth. Once this is announced to the crew, events start taking turns that pits groups against each other. All unknowing that there is an entity on board that is trying to stop Destiny from ever getting back to earth.

This is one of those episodes that sets the stage for future episode plots with the climax being seen in the season finale 2 parter, Incursion.

Olka
October 31st, 2009, 01:00 PM
The actress and/or character that Chloe will body swap with definitely look pregnant. I think if Chloe will get trashed in her body I will be more angry than if Young spoilers turn out to be true.

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
November 1st, 2009, 09:54 AM
anyone know if carter will be appearing or will she only be mentioned?

Jper
November 1st, 2009, 09:59 AM
As far as I know, Carter does not appear in this episode.

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
November 1st, 2009, 10:06 AM
hey i was surprised to see Jack in Air, Part 3. so u may never know...

jelgate
November 1st, 2009, 10:06 AM
No. Probably since Amanda Tapping is busy with Sanctuary

Jper
November 1st, 2009, 10:08 AM
@Lt.Colonel John Sheppard

I wasn't. It had been spoiled. :) Not that I mind, because I purposely read spoilers, I can't resist them anyway, but I haven't seen or read any spoilers about Carter (Amanda Tapping) being in this episode. That doesn't mean she can't be in it, or be mentioned, but like I said: As far as I know, no Samantha here.

g.o.d
November 1st, 2009, 10:22 AM
As far as I know, Carter does not appear in this episode.

thank Lords of Kobol for that

TENTHIUS
November 1st, 2009, 10:31 AM
Carter, McKay, and other scientists have come up with a plan to bring Destiny to Earth. Once this is announced to the crew, events start taking turns that pits groups against each other. All unknowing that there is an entity on board that is trying to stop Destiny from ever getting back to earth.

This is one of those episodes that sets the stage for future episode plots with the climax being seen in the season finale 2 parter, Incursion.

OMG...
Next entity? Thatīs not good. They need some really alien aliens...If this is truth, it will be cliche. Second entity in two weeks they donīt know about it.

Jeff O'Connor
November 1st, 2009, 10:40 AM
OMG...
Next entity? Thatīs not good. They need some really alien aliens...If this is truth, it will be cliche. Second entity in two weeks they donīt know about it.

They need some 'alien' aliens, you say? Well, I think that's a lot more 'alien' than the bipedal variety.

dahok
November 1st, 2009, 12:08 PM
The actress and/or character that Chloe will body swap with definitely look pregnant. I think if Chloe will get trashed in her body I will be more angry than if Young spoilers turn out to be true.

That's troubling, most definitely. Another thing, why would a pregnant woman even be allowed to do that body swap? Chloe swapped with someone else before. It seems like an unnecessary risk to the baby.

SBN
November 1st, 2009, 02:51 PM
That's troubling, most definitely. Another thing, why would a pregnant woman even be allowed to do that body swap? Chloe swapped with someone else before. It seems like an unnecessary risk to the baby.

I think we have to reserve all judgment until we see it, as we simply do not know the circumstances surrounding this.

prion
November 1st, 2009, 04:10 PM
In looking at spoiler pics for this episode, yup, Eli goes back to Earth...to a bar...and does Chloe... oh oh, the beginning of the triangle!

http://www.iimmgg.com/image/667335f2f75ddd3f1b76b4505627b2e4

and in looking at
http://www.iimmgg.com/image/da786ac4f93b88016451e38aac804944

doesn't look pregnant to me. Contrary to what tv makes us believe, not all women have flat stomaches. ;)

Jper
November 1st, 2009, 04:26 PM
In looking at spoiler pics for this episode, yup, Eli goes back to Earth...to a bar...and does Chloe... oh oh, the beginning of the triangle!

http://www.iimmgg.com/image/667335f2f75ddd3f1b76b4505627b2e4




That's not Chloe. I think that is someone else. I thought they were going to the bar to visit Chloe's friends, who she then will found out never liked her. While Eli in his hot body has now a lot of interest by other women, like that one. Then they'll leave the club and Chloe will be crying and Eli will be comforting her, while they are getting into a cab.

dahok
November 1st, 2009, 05:50 PM
That's not Chloe. I think that is someone else. I thought they were going to the bar to visit Chloe's friends, who she then will found out never liked her. While Eli in his hot body has now a lot of interest by other women, like that one. Then they'll leave the club and Chloe will be crying and Eli will be comforting her, while they are getting into a cab.

Ah... Chloe and her waterworks. I have this strange feeling she'll get attracted to body swapped Eli and he'll start to lose interest in her. (I'm so off the Eli/Chloe ship.)

It was this picture, just seemed to bulge out on a small frame. (http://www.iimmgg.com/image/8132a68bb0a2d5e2dabb622a37f81047)

VFX
November 1st, 2009, 08:04 PM
That's not Chloe. I think that is someone else. I thought they were going to the bar to visit Chloe's friends, who she then will found out never liked her. While Eli in his hot body has now a lot of interest by other women, like that one. Then they'll leave the club and Chloe will be crying and Eli will be comforting her, while they are getting into a cab.

Nice re-write of my own spoiler except for one thing...

This Eli drives a Porsche so they don't need a cab ;)

Oh & the woman who swaps bodies with Chloe is not pregnant. She's just a normal regular shaped woman. The kind you see in the real world & not normally on TV.

Also for Ming Na fans... the teaser pics show Wray in Washington so my guess is...

Wray will also use the stones & tries to plot her way into authority on the Destiny with IOC powers that be.
She's in camo so she must have swapped with military personnel.

dahok
November 1st, 2009, 09:04 PM
Nice re-write of my own spoiler except for one thing...

This Eli drives a Porsche so they don't need a cab ;)

Oh & the woman who swaps bodies with Chloe is not pregnant. She's just a normal regular shaped woman. The kind you see in the real world & not normally on TV.


It wasn't a crack on her weight at all. In just one of the pics, which I linked in my last post she had a noticeable belly and others noticed as well. The other shot it appears gone. I guess it was just goofy lighting or something.

No need to get all defensive.

SupremeLegate
November 1st, 2009, 09:16 PM
The Chloe scene merits special mention

I am looking forward to seeing that this is all about.

Dark Soul
November 1st, 2009, 10:19 PM
"What happens if they screw up and the ship explodes?"
This was Eli asking that question the Youtube trailer I saw for it...

Stargate Atlantis season 5 last episode spoiler
What if they use the wormhole drive that Atlantis has? If they screwed up on using that then the ship would explode as well wouldn't it? I think they are going to use that in this episode... But maybe not.

Jper
November 2nd, 2009, 01:10 AM
Ah... Chloe and her waterworks. I have this strange feeling she'll get attracted to body swapped Eli and he'll start to lose interest in her. (I'm so off the Eli/Chloe ship.)

It was this picture, just seemed to bulge out on a small frame. (http://www.iimmgg.com/image/8132a68bb0a2d5e2dabb622a37f81047)

I really don't understand what you are saying here. What will happen?


Nice re-write of my own spoiler except for one thing...

This Eli drives a Porsche so they don't need a cab ;)

Oh & the woman who swaps bodies with Chloe is not pregnant. She's just a normal regular shaped woman. The kind you see in the real world & not normally on TV.

Also for Ming Na fans... the teaser pics show Wray in Washington so my guess is...

Wray will also use the stones & tries to plot her way into authority on the Destiny with IOC powers that be.
She's in camo so she must have swapped with military personnel.

Really? He drives a Porsche? I did not see that before. I thought it was a cab. I thought I've seen a picture of it.

Oh and yeah, Camile Wray is meeting an IOA representative in her switched body. This is the episode where the IOA wants to have more control through Camile.

[ETA]

Strom is an I.O.A. representative who meets with Camille Wray (who is one of those stuck on the Destiny) in Washington, D.C. Wray knows that she has been I.O.A. middle management at best, and now she's in a position that is very valuable to the organization -- which seeks power and control of the Destiny and all that it represents. They're counting on Wray to play ball, and she knows it.

Jper
November 2nd, 2009, 01:23 AM
While I am here, I was wondering, wasn't it spoiled that before "Earth", so in "Water" there would be a suicide? Did we see that? Or was it just a wrong spoiler? Incorrect? Or is this still to come in this episode? I thought Robert Carlyle had confirmed it. Anyone has an exact quote or link?

jcainhaze
November 2nd, 2009, 01:25 AM
When this plan doesn't work, Rush's ego is going to explode. He's going to have the worst case of "I told you so" ever! Earth's greatest minds come up with a grand plan and it almost kills us all and doesn't even work. Rush is going to love it.

MattSilver 3k
November 2nd, 2009, 01:29 AM
While I am here, I was wondering, wasn't it spoiled that before "Earth", so in "Water" there would be a suicide? Did we see that? Or was it just a wrong spoiler? Incorrect? Or is this still to come in this episode? I thought Robert Carlyle had confirmed it. Anyone has an exact quote or link?

Got this from Gateworld, on the Earth (http://www.gateworld.net/universe/s1/107.shtml) page:


"[The show] is much more character-driven, much more of a drama. Survival is the main thing. ... There's two or three deaths, in fact, in the first three episodes, and a suicide by episode six. So this is a harsh world."
(Actor Robert Carlyle, in an interview with IGN.com [SCI FI advertising upfront])

Just when the suicide will occur is uncertain. Carlyle also told Multichannel News at the same media event that the suicide might occur in episode five. Neither episode had been filmed at the time.


Can't find the IGN interview yet. Keep in mind that this interview was probably before Fire was split up into Darkness and Light, Time was pushed back or Life was pushed forward, and I think Earth was once before Water. So, everything's jumbled up.

But, hey, wouldn't you prefer to get a nice shock if someone eats their own bullet instead of anticipating it in a specific episode? I think I would.

Jper
November 2nd, 2009, 01:34 AM
Oh, there's where I misinterpreted it. I hadn't thought of the fact that fire had been split up. Oooh, so the suicide still needs to happen. In this episode. Wonder who it will be. Spencer? I'm hoping not another Red Shirt. I want some fear. We shouldn't have the feeling that everyone is safe all the time.

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
November 2nd, 2009, 05:33 AM
anybody know when they will put up the "Sneak Peek" of Earth? like they did for all the other episodes? or are they keeping this episode hush hush and only giving us the promo?

Jper
November 2nd, 2009, 05:37 AM
It was mentioned in the general SGU discussion as well:



Anyways, will a sneak peek of Earth be up on Syfy soon? One week it was up two days before Darkness, another four days before Light, and another the day after Light (for Water)... I'm not sensing a pattern...


You mean a two minute sneak peek? Not the promo? Because the promo is up. :) Yeah, with SGA as well, there was no logic in when the sneak peeks were released.

So summary: I/We don't know, and there's no pinpointing an exact date.

prion
November 2nd, 2009, 09:07 AM
That's not Chloe. I think that is someone else. I thought they were going to the bar to visit Chloe's friends, who she then will found out never liked her. While Eli in his hot body has now a lot of interest by other women, like that one. Then they'll leave the club and Chloe will be crying and Eli will be comforting her, while they are getting into a cab.

Ooops, I meant to say "so does Chloe" not "does Chloe" as that has a TOTALLY different conotation.

but they're both in the bar, so they went back to Earth because.... why? I mean, yes, they probably sent scientists in their place to fix some problem (sorta like a virtual Maytag repairman) so I'm sitting there going, is it because it's their turn to go back, or they send back the two least helpful people on the ship (although Eli is helpful to a degree, he's not trained in anything that I can see).

prion
November 2nd, 2009, 09:13 AM
I'm thinking no suicide in this episode. Maybe next week? The order the show is filmed in is not necessarily order we see it in.

TENTHIUS
November 2nd, 2009, 10:47 AM
Carlyle could mean Gormanīs death in Water...well, thatīs not suicide, but itīs still death. However Time looks promising...It should be interesting episode, I heard.

knowles2
November 2nd, 2009, 10:52 AM
When this plan doesn't work, Rush's ego is going to explode. He's going to have the worst case of "I told you so" ever! Earth's greatest minds come up with a grand plan and it almost kills us all and doesn't even work. Rush is going to love it.

That excatly what I thought after seeing the trailer, rush is not going to be impress with there work, an he so going to say told you so an may be even say something on the line of them listening to him more often.

Jper
November 2nd, 2009, 11:55 AM
but they're both in the bar, so they went back to Earth because.... why? I mean, yes, they probably sent scientists in their place to fix some problem (sorta like a virtual Maytag repairman) so I'm sitting there going, is it because it's their turn to go back, or they send back the two least helpful people on the ship (although Eli is helpful to a degree, he's not trained in anything that I can see).

The spoilers say this:

"Elsewhere, Eli and Chloe use the communication stones to visit their loved ones, culminating in a trip to a club."

Probably Chloe's friends are at the bar.

leiasky
November 2nd, 2009, 01:20 PM
The spoilers say this:

"Elsewhere, Eli and Chloe use the communication stones to visit their loved ones, culminating in a trip to a club."



So every family member of every person stranded on Destiny, since they're all body swapping those loved ones don't look like themselves, has been read in (aka given top level security clearance?!) to the program? Hmm.

Maybe the program is public by now and we just won't know it until the 3rd SG-1 movie.

Jper
November 2nd, 2009, 01:24 PM
I don't think so. I doubt it is public. And who says Chloe actually tells her friends she's actually Chloe in another body. It's much more likely that she doesn't tell them and that is how she finds out.

Also, even if, who would believe them? :)
[EDIT] By which I mean, who would believe the people not read-in into the SG program and then would try to come forward with this.

[ETA]
Not to mention, how Rush suggested that they would erase Eli's memory if he didn't sign the agreement.

Jper
November 2nd, 2009, 04:05 PM
Sneak preview is up on SyFy;


Syfy: Stargate Universe - Earth : Sneak Peek

http://video.syfy.com/shows/universe

VSS
November 2nd, 2009, 05:46 PM
Two things:
Who is Eli going to switch with- the person who drives a Porsche, is handsome, and wants to go on board the Destiny? Sounds like an atypical person to be involved in the stargate program, to say the least! And- I hope Eli goes by and checks on his mom.

prion
November 2nd, 2009, 06:25 PM
The spoilers say this:


Probably Chloe's friends are at the bar.

Chloe will probably masquerade as a friend or chloe's cousin or whatever.

and if you have say, 80 people going home to see relatives/whatever, does that mean ALL the families/loved ones now have security clearance???

prion
November 2nd, 2009, 06:26 PM
Oh yes, from twitter tonight....

@JGLenic The episode of #SGU that airs this Fri is called EARTH and I am thinking that it might cause some (more) controversy online...

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
November 2nd, 2009, 06:29 PM
where is this information coming from about a guy driving a porsche?

VSS
November 2nd, 2009, 06:43 PM
where is this information coming from about a guy driving a porsche?

I don't know, I just mindlessly repeat what I read. ;)
It must be true or it wouldn't be on GW.

Spimman
November 2nd, 2009, 07:18 PM
I'm getting a little more excited about this episode, thanks for some of the spoilers. I don't know why exactly, but I kinda have a bad attitude towards the communication stones...not sure why...I guess so far they have been kinda lame and I worry about what could happen, but this episode is possibly sounding cool.

MattSilver 3k
November 2nd, 2009, 07:45 PM
Oh yes, from twitter tonight....

@JGLenic The episode of #SGU that airs this Fri is called EARTH and I am thinking that it might cause some (more) controversy online...

Uh oh, spagetthi-o's!

Nah, I'm looking forward to it either way.

dahok
November 2nd, 2009, 07:56 PM
Uh oh, spagetthi-o's!

Nah, I'm looking forward to it either way.

I think we all expect it to be Eli/Chloe again... Still betting on a drunk Chloe digging "Hot" Eli.

It could be more Telford/Young drama. Looking at the pics Young's spending the evening with his wife in another Telford's body. Apparently stepping in front of traffic just before the switch isn't an option huh? ;)

All just guesses... obviously.

Jper
November 3rd, 2009, 01:22 AM
Two things:
Who is Eli going to switch with- the person who drives a Porsche, is handsome, and wants to go on board the Destiny? Sounds like an atypical person to be involved in the stargate program, to say the least! And- I hope Eli goes by and checks on his mom.

Well the impression I have now from all the spoilers is that Eli and this guy switch because the guy is needed on board of the Destiny. Just like the Chloe and other woman switch. :)

"Sounds like an atypical person to be involved in the stargate program, to say the least!"

Really? You're kidding right. :lol:
You watched SG1 and SGA right?

However, I am hoping Eli will check up on his mom. :)


Chloe will probably masquerade as a friend or chloe's cousin or whatever.

and if you have say, 80 people going home to see relatives/whatever, does that mean ALL the families/loved ones now have security clearance???

Yeah, that was what I was thinking and saying. :)

Who says they are going to the actual homes and get to see them? Young and Chloe did, but that was all. And Young is a good buddy of O'Neill, and a Colonel and all. And Chloe is the daughter of a US Senator whose wife clearly already knew about the SG program.


I don't know, I just mindlessly repeat what I read. ;)

Well I thought it was a cab. I did not see a Porsche, but someone told me there was. I still need it myself too.


It must be true or it wouldn't be on GW.

:lol:
Yeah right. :D Good one!
The GW forum is absolutely unreliable when it comes to that, and I'm sorry to say this, but even the GW spoilers page contains errors/un-truths. :)

leiasky
November 3rd, 2009, 07:02 AM
Sneak preview is up on SyFy;

Meh. I wasn't impressed. I want to see the ship and what's going on there. I want to see some urgency at the Pentagon. I want to see tension between Young and Telford, less of contradiction Scott, more of a professional James.

Not a group of 20 somethings flirting and hanging around a bar. Show me some action! And not of the Eli or Chloe getting any kind.

I want Stargate. That preview wasn't it.

That said, I'm excited about seeing O'Neill again. I hope he becomes a recurring character.

prion
November 3rd, 2009, 08:32 AM
I think we all expect it to be Eli/Chloe again... Still betting on a drunk Chloe digging "Hot" Eli.

It could be more Telford/Young drama. Looking at the pics Young's spending the evening with his wife in another Telford's body. Apparently stepping in front of traffic just before the switch isn't an option huh? ;)

All just guesses... obviously.

Heh, I'll raise you one drunk Chloe and Eli wishing they'd kiss, but then she'll probably puncture his ego with a "You're such a good friend" (pass out on shoulder) ;) Oh yes, I can see that now... Poor Eli isn't going to 'get any' for a long time, I suspect.

As for the Young/Telford body swapping, well...

spoilers somewhere indicated that they swapped bodies at the most inopportune moment - hmm, if Young was w/wife - ex-wife, maybe in bed. Oh yeah, embarrassing, and would Telford be bad enough to go back for more? He doesn't seem to be married. Hmm, must get mind out of soap opera gutter...

Vladius
November 3rd, 2009, 08:37 AM
Whatever happens, it will be completely disgusting and out-of-form.

SGFerrit
November 3rd, 2009, 08:57 AM
Whatever happens, it will be completely disgusting and out-of-form.

Way to jump the gun, mate :)

Jper
November 3rd, 2009, 09:09 AM
Way to jump the gun, mate :)

Yeah, and like that never happened here (on GW) before. :D ;) ;) ;)

leiasky
November 3rd, 2009, 09:10 AM
Whatever happens, it will be completely disgusting and out-of-form.

I really hope not. Believability is a big thing for me. It's already been shattered with the reg's breaking sex. I'd rather the remaining pieces not be flushed down the crapper.

I hate the use of those stones and hope something happens to them in the near future.

I'm all for character development but I want it to be in the middle of some good action! (and not the horizontal kind!)

knowles2
November 3rd, 2009, 09:20 AM
I really hope not. Believability is a big thing for me. It's already been shattered with the reg's breaking sex. I'd rather the remaining pieces not be flushed down the crapper.

I hate the use of those stones and hope something happens to them in the near future.

I'm all for character development but I want it to be in the middle of some good action! (and not the horizontal kind!)
So you more into the vertical kind then!

The Mighty 6 platoon
November 3rd, 2009, 09:27 AM
I really hope not. Believability is a big thing for me. It's already been shattered with the reg's breaking sex. I'd rather the remaining pieces not be flushed down the crapper.



It's been repeated over and over by the military and ex military people on the forum that while it's against the regs that doesnít mean it doesnít happen. As someone in the military I found it perfectly believable, it was presented as against the regs in the show and as I have said it happens.

MediaSavant
November 3rd, 2009, 09:36 AM
It's been repeated over and over by the military and ex military people on the forum that while it's against the regs that doesnít mean it doesnít happen. As someone in the military I found it perfectly believable, it was presented as against the regs in the show and as I have said it happens.

Thank you Might 6. Keep at it.

I've know enough people in the military to know that regulations are broken quite often.

leiasky
November 3rd, 2009, 09:39 AM
So you more into the vertical kind then!

Yes, with guns and weapons and explosions! :)

Not the kind we got with Scott and James in Air part 1.

I think my big problem with that (because I'm fine and dandy with sex in shows) stems from SG-1 where those people had more honor and were unwilling to break the regs in that way. And since SGU is a continuation of the franchise, it disturbs me that these new people aren't at least a little respectful. Meh. I get that it happens and is believable to some. Its just not something I'm enjoying about the new show.

I still hate those stones and hope I don't hate them even more after Earth.

Madwelshboy
November 3rd, 2009, 10:10 AM
As for the Young/Telford body swapping, well...

spoilers somewhere indicated that they swapped bodies at the most inopportune moment - hmm, if Young was w/wife - ex-wife, maybe in bed. Oh yeah, embarrassing, and would Telford be bad enough to go back for more? He doesn't seem to be married. Hmm, must get mind out of soap opera gutter...

I remember reading that, it was a sci fi wire interview with LDP not long after comic-con.
From what i remember the swap is during sex between Young and his wife. Never mind going back for more, but dose Telford stop or dose he finish is the question. I remember LDP refered to an affair with Young's wife, so back for more, mite be a possiblity

Kathrin
November 3rd, 2009, 10:35 AM
I have a question about Young

Will he say his wife that he is in Telford's body, or will he sleep with her while he pretend to be Telford? After all his wife did end their relationship in Darkness.

Are there spoilers about this? I hope it is not the later option.

The Mighty 6 platoon
November 3rd, 2009, 10:37 AM
Yes, with guns and weapons and explosions! :)

Not the kind we got with Scott and James in Air part 1.

I think my big problem with that (because I'm fine and dandy with sex in shows) stems from SG-1 where those people had more honor and were unwilling to break the regs in that way. And since SGU is a continuation of the franchise, it disturbs me that these new people aren't at least a little respectful. Meh. I get that it happens and is believable to some. Its just not something I'm enjoying about the new show.

I still hate those stones and hope I don't hate them even more after Earth.


Nevertheless SGU is aiming to have more realistic characters than previous incarnations, and this sought of thing happens, itís not a case of believability, sex between officers and other ranks in direct violations of the regs happens. As for breaking the regs, plenty of characters have done that, often disobeying orders. Hell Sheppard was written as a cocky idiot, part of his back story was that he disobeyed orders, tried to help a downed pilot and instead screwed up massively and got people killed. I donít here people complaining about that.

As for being respectful I and others in the military are tired of either being portrayed as flawless heroes or murdering baby killers. I like the fact the military characters are human and under immense pressure and making respect. I think itís dangerous to right your heroes in a constant perfect whitewashed pattern otherwise people get the wrong end of the stick in reality, asking why canít the troops in Afghanistan and Iraq be more like Jack and Sam, why because thatís not the way it works, war is dirty, difficult and nasty and a lot of people have trouble with coping with it. It's is far more respectful to us to show us as we actually are.

dahok
November 3rd, 2009, 10:55 AM
Nevertheless SGU is aiming to have more realistic characters than previous incarnations, and this sought of thing happens, itís not a case of believability, sex between officers and other ranks in direct violations of the regs happens.

It was crazy on surface fleets in the Navy. But what does one expect when you put some thousand young men and women in the middle of nowhere for months on end.

Me... I was mostly subs. :(

As for the stones, I guess I'm missing the details on them. It seems you need both parties in physical contact with the objects to make the initial swap. So you can literally shake their minds back in the original bodies... PG board and all, so I can guess...

prion
November 3rd, 2009, 12:43 PM
I remember reading that, it was a sci fi wire interview with LDP not long after comic-con.
From what i remember the swap is during sex between Young and his wife. Never mind going back for more, but dose Telford stop or dose he finish is the question. I remember LDP refered to an affair with Young's wife, so back for more, mite be a possiblity

Hmmmm.....
Okay, let's say from what spoiilers are out there that the body swap occurs during sex; and Telford (as himself) gets a taste of it (as in the mixup only lasts a minute or so). What if he decides to go back for more, after Young swaps back to Destiny? How would the wife know if it's her husband? I mean, couldn't Telford dig up enough info, or mumble his way through, just to get a roll in the hay?

SGFerrit
November 3rd, 2009, 12:46 PM
It's possible, though I'd think he would be too busy moping about not being on the Destiny to do it :D Saying that, there seems to be animosity between the two Colonels, so it could be interesting if he does do it out of spite?

prion
November 3rd, 2009, 12:48 PM
Thank you Might 6. Keep at it.

I've know enough people in the military to know that regulations are broken quite often.

of course people break regulations, and rules and laws. heck, not a day goes by when I don't see some idiot run a red light (and it's either the really expensive car in a rush, or the slow-poke who drives 20 but doesn't obey signs). Anyway.... I think part of the point is... is character development going to be defined by people having romantic interludes (kissing,etc.) and outright sex? I mean, Chloe and Scott, Young and wife (have they? I can't recall? wait, they will), and then there's the ep with Camille that everybody got riled up about...

I am hoping that they will encounter some alien life, that, or find some lightbulbs.

major davis
November 3rd, 2009, 12:48 PM
The thing is Young shouldn't have been using Telford's body for you know what in the first place. Its out of line.

prion
November 3rd, 2009, 12:57 PM
The thing is Young shouldn't have been using Telford's body for you know what in the first place. Its out of line.

well, yeah. that's rather, um, squicky when it comes down to it, and what? the wife wants sex with a buffer body? (hey, LDP ain't nothing to sneeze at!) ;) I mean, if anybody from destiny swaps bodies with someone on earth, what's to stop them from getting totally blotto? Oh yeah, imagine swapping back to a body with a full-on hangover... or.. worse, three months down the road someone discovers they're pregnant...

leiasky
November 3rd, 2009, 01:27 PM
Nevertheless SGU is aiming to have more realistic characters than previous incarnations, and this sought of thing happens, itís not a case of believability, sex between officers and other ranks in direct violations of the regs happens. As for breaking the regs, plenty of characters have done that, often disobeying orders. Hell Sheppard was written as a cocky idiot, part of his back story was that he disobeyed orders, tried to help a downed pilot and instead screwed up massively and got people killed. I donít here people complaining about that.

As for being respectful I and others in the military are tired of either being portrayed as flawless heroes or murdering baby killers. I like the fact the military characters are human and under immense pressure and making respect. I think itís dangerous to right your heroes in a constant perfect whitewashed pattern otherwise people get the wrong end of the stick in reality, asking why canít the troops in Afghanistan and Iraq be more like Jack and Sam, why because thatís not the way it works, war is dirty, difficult and nasty and a lot of people have trouble with coping with it. It's is far more respectful to us to show us as we actually are.


I agree what you're saying, to a point, but it doesn't mean I want to watch it. I wanted to watch SG-1. I enjoyed the respect they paid to the military in this sense, regardless of whether it was totally realistic or not.

We have enough realism in our real lives. I want an escape. One that entertains and doesn't disgust me.

SGU might get there, but right now, I can take it or leave it. And usually I leave it until I'm home with nothing else to do. This Friday will be an exception.

Vladius
November 3rd, 2009, 01:50 PM
Well, that would really make Telford a jerk... like more than usual.

MediaSavant
November 3rd, 2009, 02:01 PM
I look forward to this episode.

The Telford/Young situation that has been discussed in spoilers is bound to spark debate. That's good. Good science fiction raises these kinds of moral and ethical issues.

The Mighty 6 platoon
November 3rd, 2009, 02:02 PM
I agree what you're saying, to a point, but it doesn't mean I want to watch it. I wanted to watch SG-1. I enjoyed the respect they paid to the military in this sense, regardless of whether it was totally realistic or not.

We have enough realism in our real lives. I want an escape. One that entertains and doesn't disgust me.



Except itís more important than what people want to watch. How the military are portrayed in the media is very important, get it wrong, show us unrealistically and people take away these impressions. Then it comes down to the real world and they donít understand how, why or what the military is doing because of misrepresentation in the media.

Less
November 3rd, 2009, 02:42 PM
Except itís more important than what people want to watch. How the military are portrayed in the media is very important, get it wrong, show us unrealistically and people take away these impressions. Then it comes down to the real world and they donít understand how, why or what the military is doing because of misrepresentation in the media.

Actually, I really liked that SG1 and SGA represented the military in a largely positive light. Even showed the International and Bureaucratic fighting was power plays but mostly everyone could agree on a common goal. NCIS also shows military in a positive light.

NCIS and SG1 show me they aren't "our boys", they are men and women like everyone else. They have a tough job to do, mostly do it well, and we're grateful they are there.

It's from all the other TV shows and movies that I learn soldiers are the crazy druggie child-killer rapists that create all the problems in the world and if they would just all go away we could be peaceful happy unicorn ranchers!

It was nice to have Stargate show the military in a generally positive light.

The Mighty 6 platoon
November 3rd, 2009, 03:23 PM
Actually, I really liked that SG1 and SGA represented the military in a largely positive light. Even showed the International and Bureaucratic fighting was power plays but mostly everyone could agree on a common goal. NCIS also shows military in a positive light.

NCIS and SG1 show me they aren't "our boys", they are men and women like everyone else. They have a tough job to do, mostly do it well, and we're grateful they are there.

It's from all the other TV shows and movies that I learn soldiers are the crazy druggie child-killer rapists that create all the problems in the world and if they would just all go away we could be peaceful happy unicorn ranchers!

It was nice to have Stargate show the military in a generally positive light.

As someone in the military I donít want to be shown in a bad light, we are just people trying to do a job the best we can. But SG1 was never particularly good at showing the real problems that people face in the military or combat, when was there any blue on blue friendly fire incidents, when did they have to take cover from friendly artillery being dropped on their position, when did they have to pick up blown up bits of their comrades? SG1 showed the military in a positive light yes, but it was far from realistic at showing the real problems or even how they are overcome by us in the military.

MediaSavant
November 3rd, 2009, 08:03 PM
As someone in the military I donít want to be shown in a bad light, we are just people trying to do a job the best we can. But SG1 was never particularly good at showing the real problems that people face in the military or combat, when was there any blue on blue friendly fire incidents, when did they have to take cover from friendly artillery being dropped on their position, when did they have to pick up blown up bits of their comrades? SG1 showed the military in a positive light yes, but it was far from realistic at showing the real problems or even how they are overcome by us in the military.

Very well said.

It sort of trivializes what real military personnel experience in combat situations when you don't portray those situations realistically.

It's all fun and games. "More 'splosions, please. But, don't show me what 'splosions do the the human body in real life."

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
November 4th, 2009, 03:29 AM
what kind of person uses another person's body to have sex with said person's wife? that's asking for a whole slew of troubles.

Vladius
November 4th, 2009, 04:50 AM
I look forward to this episode.

The Telford/Young situation that has been discussed in spoilers is bound to spark debate. That's good. Good science fiction raises these kinds of moral and ethical issues.

I disagree. Good science fiction doesn't have to raise anything.

MediaSavant
November 4th, 2009, 05:03 AM
I disagree. Good science fiction doesn't have to raise anything.

I disagree. If it doesn't explore the intellectual and moral consequences of the technologies it posits, it is merely action and adventure in a science fiction setting. It's what they gave the title "space opera" in the early 20th Century, which doesn't mean "soap opera in space", as many people think it does. The term "space opera" pre-dates "soap opera".

It can be good action & adventure, but that's not the same thing as good science fiction.

jcainhaze
November 4th, 2009, 05:25 AM
what kind of person uses another person's body to have sex with said person's wife? that's asking for a whole slew of troubles.

I'm pretty sure there's no way that young could have known telford was in the middle of getting laid. If that is how it goes down. So poof, body swap, oh hey my junks all up in some strange woman....wtf? Do you A). jump off and explain that you are not who she thinks your are. OR B). fart real loud and run away making your nemisis look like a total idiot loser. OR C). Enjoy the last sex you will probably ever have because you are stuck 80 kagillion light years away from home?

I vote for the farting thing.

Jeff O'Connor
November 4th, 2009, 06:30 AM
I disagree. If it doesn't explore the intellectual and moral consequences of the technologies it posits, it is merely action and adventure in a science fiction setting. It's what they gave the title "space opera" in the early 20th Century, which doesn't mean "soap opera in space", as many people think it does. The term "space opera" pre-dates "soap opera".

It can be good action & adventure, but that's not the same thing as good science fiction.


'Quoted for truth', as they say.

That said, I'm actually still a bit worried over this episode. I'm just unsure if it will all be done right. This episode strikes me as the sort in which if done correctly, it will be a brilliant, shining beacon. And if done even just a little bit incorrectly, it will be the worst episode to-date.

Madwelshboy
November 4th, 2009, 06:36 AM
'Quoted for truth', as they say.

That said, I'm actually still a bit worried over this episode. I'm just unsure if it will all be done right. This episode strikes me as the sort in which if done correctly, it will be a brilliant, shining beacon. And if done even just a little bit incorrectly, it will be the worst episode to-date.

Either way, this place aint gonna be pretty after the episode airs ;)

Jeff O'Connor
November 4th, 2009, 06:38 AM
Either way, this place aint gonna be pretty after the episode airs ;)

I expect more than a couple of 'this takes the place of Family Ties for WORST. EPISODE. EVER.' :P

major davis
November 4th, 2009, 06:45 AM
Ya. Personally, I think they will do ok. From what I've seen and heard I think they will do it right. Matrin is always a good writer but he's also a total perv so I'm a little nervous but I will trust him. :p

leiasky
November 4th, 2009, 07:21 AM
Either way, this place aint gonna be pretty after the episode airs ;)

Ya never know. It may end up being an enjoyable episode. :) The constant use of those stones rub me the wrong way and I'm hoping the writers won't be too dependant on them to tell a story. We'll see in a few days.

MediaSavant
November 4th, 2009, 08:28 AM
To be honest, I wish the Stargate franchise had never invented the concept of the Communication Stones, but they are now a part of the Stargate mythology. Kinda like the holodeck on Star Trek.

Fans seem to have a mixed feeling about them. Some people are insisting to see more of what is going on back on Earth. Others are going to think they rely on them too much. If you satisfy one group, the other screams. And vice versa.

Personally, I'd like them to be used sparingly. But, it seems about the right amount of time has passed to find out what Earth has been up to.

Vladius
November 4th, 2009, 09:01 AM
I disagree. If it doesn't explore the intellectual and moral consequences of the technologies it posits, it is merely action and adventure in a science fiction setting. It's what they gave the title "space opera" in the early 20th Century, which doesn't mean "soap opera in space", as many people think it does. The term "space opera" pre-dates "soap opera".

It can be good action & adventure, but that's not the same thing as good science fiction.

No, you're wrong. Science fiction is a setting. It can explore certain moral and ethical areas, but that doesn't make it higher quality or superior. Science fiction was not conceived to explore what happens when two people swap bodies while one of them is doing something sensitive. It can do that, but that is not its purpose, and it doesn't make it high quality.

Vladius
November 4th, 2009, 09:02 AM
I expect more than a couple of 'this takes the place of Family Ties for WORST. EPISODE. EVER.' :P

Don't forget "Brain Storm."

dahok
November 4th, 2009, 09:19 AM
I expect more than a couple of 'this takes the place of Family Ties for WORST. EPISODE. EVER.' :P

Perhaps because I really do not care for Young's love life or if Chloe cries again because her friends removed her from their Myspace pages. Judging from the previews the only interesting elements is what the IOA is planning and Eli.

I'm sorry but that just happens to be how I feel about it. :daniel:

MediaSavant
November 4th, 2009, 09:33 AM
No, you're wrong. Science fiction is a setting. It can explore certain moral and ethical areas, but that doesn't make it higher quality or superior. Science fiction was not conceived to explore what happens when two people swap bodies while one of them is doing something sensitive. It can do that, but that is not its purpose, and it doesn't make it high quality.

Clearly, you and I have different views of what is quality science fiction fiction. Showing scientific breakthroughs without exploring all the possibilities they open up is not using science fiction's full potential as a genre. It's scratching the surface.

You disagree. That's fine.

prion
November 4th, 2009, 12:57 PM
Science fiction, to me, is science beyond the realm of what we currently have. Such as spaceships traveling to other worlds, or robots that will mow our lawns for us, etc. etc.

SGU is scifi in that it's got the stargate, it's got the Destiny, but so far, the shuttle isn't much different than a bus, and the Destiny, not much different than a falling apart building (albeit, in space).

If they keep spending time on Earth, it will be less and less scifi, especially if they're only dealing with emotional problems, not aliens running amok, squeezing and brusing all the tomatoes on the produce aisle. Oh, the horror! ;)

LtColCarter
November 4th, 2009, 01:03 PM
Science fiction, to me, is science beyond the realm of what we currently have. Such as spaceships traveling to other worlds, or robots that will mow our lawns for us, etc. etc.

SGU is scifi in that it's got the stargate, it's got the Destiny, but so far, the shuttle isn't much different than a bus, and the Destiny, not much different than a falling apart building (albeit, in space).

If they keep spending time on Earth, it will be less and less scifi, especially if they're only dealing with emotional problems, not aliens running amok, squeezing and brusing all the tomatoes on the produce aisle. Oh, the horror! ;)

Too funny!

lordofseas
November 4th, 2009, 01:32 PM
Don't forget "Brain Storm."

I find that everyone forgets EatG. Whether this is intentional or not, I shall discover. :daniel:

Vladius
November 4th, 2009, 01:36 PM
Clearly, you and I have different views of what is quality science fiction fiction. Showing scientific breakthroughs without exploring all the possibilities they open up is not using science fiction's full potential as a genre. It's scratching the surface.

No, it isn't. It's showing scientific breakthroughs without exploring all the possibilities they open up.

Nobody watched SG-1 for the potential effects of zat guns on gardening.

MattSilver 3k
November 4th, 2009, 01:37 PM
No, it isn't. It's showing scientific breakthroughs without exploring all the possibilities they open up.

Nobody watched SG-1 for the potential effects of zat guns on gardening.

SGU is not SG-1...

Eternal Density
November 4th, 2009, 01:51 PM
In my book, "Brain Storm" is on my "not too bad" list. "Family Ties" however is on my "don't bother watching a second time" list. EatG was rushed but it doesn't have anything particularly dis-likable in it.
I predict very mixed reactions to "Earth".
[edit]The arguments over soap opera vs. space opera aren't over 'til the fat lady sings :P

TheRandomOne
November 4th, 2009, 04:08 PM
I fear for Joe's blog more then Gateworld after Friday's episode

Makenshi
November 4th, 2009, 04:50 PM
Why people keep discussing what's the worst episode on the franchise, when it clearly is "Whisper", the one so bad no one even remembers about? Hmm... the trauma...

Pharaoh Atem
November 4th, 2009, 05:04 PM
what does the worst ep of the franchise have to do with this ep speculation ???

MattSilver 3k
November 4th, 2009, 05:26 PM
Why people keep discussing what's the worst episode on the franchise, when it clearly is "Whisper", the one so bad no one even remembers about? Hmm... the trauma...

Whispers had Beckett...

Meh. Seriously, the worst was Emancipation, wasn't it?

Eternal Density
November 4th, 2009, 06:06 PM
Whispers was alright... and this is seriously off topic.

major davis
November 4th, 2009, 06:17 PM
I'm actually scared for joes blog.

MattSilver 3k
November 4th, 2009, 06:36 PM
I'm actually scared for joes blog.

The comment section or the blog itself?

Eternal Density
November 4th, 2009, 08:04 PM
I'm actually scared for joes blog.I'm scared for your blood pressure.

Briangate78
November 4th, 2009, 09:03 PM
Good to see RDA will be in this episode. I can tell Telford is going to be truly even more hated than even Rush.

MediaSavant
November 5th, 2009, 02:21 AM
Science fiction, to me, is science beyond the realm of what we currently have. Such as spaceships traveling to other worlds, or robots that will mow our lawns for us, etc. etc.

SGU is scifi in that it's got the stargate, it's got the Destiny, but so far, the shuttle isn't much different than a bus, and the Destiny, not much different than a falling apart building (albeit, in space).

If they keep spending time on Earth, it will be less and less scifi, especially if they're only dealing with emotional problems, not aliens running amok, squeezing and brusing all the tomatoes on the produce aisle. Oh, the horror! ;)

I'm really chuckling because if "science fiction" has to be about aliens and spaceships most of the books nominated and winning Nebula and Hugo awards in the last two decades aren't "science fiction".

Please don't tell the science fiction writers organization this. You're limiting the whole genre to "space opera". I can understand if you are saying "it's not the kind of science fiction I prefer", but give the genre credit for being about more than spaceships, zat guns, and alien encounters.

jelgate
November 5th, 2009, 03:11 AM
Good to see RDA will be in this episode. I can tell Telford is going to be truly even more hated than even Rush.

I doubt that

prion
November 5th, 2009, 03:46 AM
Video snippet, plus bunch of spoiler images, from upcoming episode of "Earth" (SGU)

http://www.daemonstv.com/2009/11/05/stargate-universe-earth-episode-7/

bladebeam1
November 5th, 2009, 04:04 AM
My speculation for Earth:

The plan to bring everyone home is supposed to be a dangerous one. I bet the plan looks reckless to viewers but would have actually worked - if not for Rush secretly sabotaging it, and thus endangering lives.

TheRandomOne
November 5th, 2009, 05:24 AM
Good to see RDA will be in this episode. I can tell Telford is going to be truly even more hated than even Rush.

Im liking Telford more then Young at this point :cool:

Marsuvees
November 5th, 2009, 06:52 AM
I heard earlier that McCay and Carter had a hand in the development of this plan.

Ten bucks says installing a wormhole drive aboard the Destiny and it absolutely screws up the ship.

I hope the McCay Carter part is at least true because then people will stop begging for them to help fix the ship because they can't.

Briangate78
November 5th, 2009, 06:57 AM
I doubt that

I actually have an idea what they are planning with Rush. Character development will make Rush a more likeable character. They did it with Mckay who I hated in the beginning but then really liked him towards the end. However Rush they have a lot of potential with, more than Mckay ever had. Rush is just a dark character who we really don't know what he is up to or what he wants.

jelgate
November 5th, 2009, 06:58 AM
I actually have an idea what they are planning with Rush. Character development will make Rush a more likeable character. They did it with Mckay who I hated in the beginning but then really liked him towards the end. However Rush they have a lot of potential with, more than Mckay ever had. Rush is just a dark character who we really don't know what he is up to or what he wants.

Before you know it Rush and Young will become drinking buddies:P

Briangate78
November 5th, 2009, 07:03 AM
Before you know it Rush and Young will become drinking buddies:P

I just love Young's recurring line "Needs a lot of work" :p It is funny yet seriously true. lol.

Vladius
November 5th, 2009, 07:12 AM
SGU is not SG-1...

But SG-1 is science fiction, and SG-1 and SGU are both Stargate.

leiasky
November 5th, 2009, 07:14 AM
I heard earlier that McCay and Carter had a hand in the development of this plan.

Ten bucks says installing a wormhole drive aboard the Destiny and it absolutely screws up the ship.

I hope the McCay Carter part is at least true because then people will stop begging for them to help fix the ship because they can't.


It will be realistic and believable, then. What wouldn't be is if they are never mentioned.

I would love to see them try things that don't work. I'd like to see them go to a planet in search of something and not get it in time. Maybe someone dies as a result.


Originally Posted by MattSilver 3k
SGU is not SG-1...

No. But they are part of the same franchise.

Vladius
November 5th, 2009, 07:16 AM
I actually have an idea what they are planning with Rush. Character development will make Rush a more likeable character. They did it with Mckay who I hated in the beginning but then really liked him towards the end. However Rush they have a lot of potential with, more than Mckay ever had. Rush is just a dark character who we really don't know what he is up to or what he wants.

Rush was likable from the start. He represents everything we already know and love about Stargate - science, archeology, continuing themes, and conflict. In some ways, he's a much wiser and more manipulative Daniel Jackson.

Briangate78
November 5th, 2009, 07:19 AM
Rush was likable from the start. He represents everything we already know and love about Stargate - science, archeology, continuing themes, and conflict. In some ways, he's a much wiser and more manipulative Daniel Jackson.

I meant the other characters point of view which are not crazy about him right now, but I can see them warming up to him if he does something to gain their trust. We all know how Chloe feels about him, lol.

leiasky
November 5th, 2009, 07:25 AM
Rush was likable from the start. He represents everything we already know and love about Stargate - science, archeology, continuing themes, and conflict. In some ways, he's a much wiser and more manipulative Daniel Jackson.


Daniel was naive and driven. Rush is manipulative, driven and demanding. Rush is like a combination of Daniel and O'Neill.

2 more days. I'm really looking forward to this episode. Though only for certain scenes taking place on Earth.

LtColCarter
November 5th, 2009, 07:32 AM
Daniel was naive and driven. Rush is manipulative, driven and demanding. Rush is like a combination of Daniel and O'Neill.

2 more days. I'm really looking forward to this episode. Though only for certain scenes taking place on Earth.

I have another word for Rush...but since this is only PG...I can't say it here;)

major davis
November 5th, 2009, 07:56 AM
For the comment section. Joe is a very level headed longsuffering person. Still, someone can only take so much poop. While I don't think he will shut down his blog, I just think he will get fed up with all tge nasty comments and he might tighten up the comments that he let's through. I think the part of him that wants to delete all tge nasty comments is about to win.

@ED!


Hahahahahahahahahahah. So funny. But I didn't even overreact. Aren't I at least doing a bit better?

LtColCarter
November 5th, 2009, 07:58 AM
For the comment section. Joe is a very level headed longsuffering person. Still, someone can only take so much poop. While I don't think he will shut down his blog, I just think he will get fed up with all tge nasty comments and he might tighten up the comments that he let's through. I think the part of him that wants to delete all tge nasty comments is about to win.

@ED!


Hahahahahahahahahahah. So funny. But I didn't even overreact. Aren't I at least doing a bit better?

OMG!!! MD...I've not seen ya on here in forever.

Naonak
November 5th, 2009, 08:16 AM
No, it isn't. It's showing scientific breakthroughs without exploring all the possibilities they open up.

Nobody watched SG-1 for the potential effects of zat guns on gardening.
Bit of a strawman there?

prion
November 5th, 2009, 09:06 AM
For the comment section. Joe is a very level headed longsuffering person. Still, someone can only take so much poop. While I don't think he will shut down his blog, I just think he will get fed up with all tge nasty comments and he might tighten up the comments that he let's through. I think the part of him that wants to delete all tge nasty comments is about to win.


JM's a big boy and can take the heat. He's had blogs before and has closed them down and come back. THe thing is the nasty comments have been going on since before SGU even aired, but it was only when Carl came into his office that he went 'oh, better do something.' but this is for another thread...


Before you know it Rush and Young will become drinking buddies:P

Oh yeah, sure. I can see it now. Young is in Telford's body and decides that since Telford is such a jerk, he'll just get totally drunk so that when they swap back bodies, Telford will be in an awful state...

jelgate
November 5th, 2009, 09:42 AM
Oh yeah, sure. I can see it now. Young is in Telford's body and decides that since Telford is such a jerk, he'll just get totally drunk so that when they swap back bodies, Telford will be in an awful state...

You know I wonder what kind of an effect intoxication and drugs would have switching bodies with the communication stones. They are dealt a lot in the mind. Would that effect go with the mind as they switch back or stay with the body

LtColCarter
November 5th, 2009, 10:29 AM
You know I wonder what kind of an effect intoxication and drugs would have switching bodies with the communication stones. They are dealt a lot in the mind. Would that effect go with the mind as they switch back or stay with the body

Interesting question...I guess we'll have to see if anyone does an experiment to find out...

senatorincitatus
November 5th, 2009, 10:41 AM
Interesting question...I guess we'll have to see if anyone does an experiment to find out...

This might be the episode for it, with Eli and Chloe in a club.


You know I wonder what kind of an effect intoxication and drugs would have switching bodies with the communication stones. They are dealt a lot in the mind. Would that effect go with the mind as they switch back or stay with the body

Logically, I should think the intoxication would stick with the body, since that's a physical effect. But I wonder at the psychological effect of being completely snockered one moment and then stone-cold sober the next.

Vladius
November 5th, 2009, 11:37 AM
Bit of a strawman there?

His argument was a false dichotomy, but yes.

jelgate
November 5th, 2009, 12:17 PM
This might be the episode for it, with Eli and Chloe in a club.



Logically, I should think the intoxication would stick with the body, since that's a physical effect. But I wonder at the psychological effect of being completely snockered one moment and then stone-cold sober the next.

That is the thing. Intoxiciation affects us physiologically and psychologically. So because the the communication stones separate the two what part of that intoxication comes with the communication stones.

prion
November 5th, 2009, 12:48 PM
You know I wonder what kind of an effect intoxication and drugs would have switching bodies with the communication stones. They are dealt a lot in the mind. Would that effect go with the mind as they switch back or stay with the body

I'm hazarding it's like Vegas. What happens to the body, stays in the body. If say Chloe got blotto drunk, if she snaps back to Destiny, she'll be sober, as her brain cells, etc. are being affected by alcohol. Meanwhile, whoever was in her body will come back to, well, whatever... hangover, nausea and an overwhelming desire to get even, probably. ;)

Pharaoh Atem
November 5th, 2009, 04:32 PM
i wonder if there going to try to use something similar to the wormhole drive in the traielr you see the gate with a electric current all ove rit

Eternal Density
November 5th, 2009, 04:54 PM
i wonder if there going to try to use something similar to the wormhole drive in the traielr you see the gate with a electric current all ove ritI'm pretty sure they're just trying to dial earth.
In EAtG we didn't see the gate with electric current all ove rit when they used wormhole drive. Actually we didn't see anything at all :(

Pharaoh Atem
November 5th, 2009, 04:57 PM
I'm pretty sure they're just trying to dial earth.
In EAtG we didn't see the gate with electric current all ove rit when they used wormhole drive. Actually we didn't see anything at all :(

exclty my point

major davis
November 5th, 2009, 07:09 PM
No I know he's a big boy.I don't know if you were trying to insult me or just use the term big boy to describe him. Lol. It's cool. But yeah I guess it was Carl.

major davis
November 5th, 2009, 07:14 PM
OMG!!! MD...I've not seen ya on here in forever.

Oh hey!!!! I've been here. Just not on the threads I used to be on. I was about to stop by and say hi on the stargate universe discussion/speculation not too long ago but then my OCD and add and ADHD kicked in and I got distracted. Lol. Just like old times.

SBN
November 5th, 2009, 10:30 PM
Something tells me that the internet(s) are going to be inflame come Friday night. What I find amusing is that so many of those that hate this show, will in fact be tuning in to watch simply so that can log in to gripe, whine, cry, scream, and shout. Just look how many pages this ep has already generated here, and it has not even aired!

I wonder what the sound of thousands of Comic Book Store guys sounds like as they rush to their computers to tap away at the keyboard? Will it make a Kawooosh.....only time will tell.

MattSilver 3k
November 5th, 2009, 10:34 PM
Something tells me that the internet(s) are going to be inflame come Friday night. What I find amusing is that so many of those that hate this show, will in fact be tuning in to watch simply so that can log in to gripe, whine, cry, scream, and shout. Just look how many pages this ep has already generated here, and it has not even aired!

Oh, the sad irony. Sucks, eh?

Jper
November 6th, 2009, 02:34 AM
Interesting. Friday nightís installment of Stargate: Universe has yet to air, but already the boards are abuzz. Tomorrow, SyFy and Space air SGUís seventh episode Ė Earth. Whatís it about? Let me tell you Ė ďTrouble on the home front for Eli, Young, and Chloe while, back aboard Destiny, Telford plays his hand.Ē

Rest on J.M.'s blog:
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2009/11/05/november-5-2009-looking-ahead-to-the-stretch-run/

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
November 6th, 2009, 03:11 AM
14 hours until i get to watch it

LtColCarter
November 6th, 2009, 05:45 AM
His argument was a false dichotomy, but yes.

LOL...big words! ;)


I'm hazarding it's like Vegas. What happens to the body, stays in the body. If say Chloe got blotto drunk, if she snaps back to Destiny, she'll be sober, as her brain cells, etc. are being affected by alcohol. Meanwhile, whoever was in her body will come back to, well, whatever... hangover, nausea and an overwhelming desire to get even, probably. ;)

I really didn't like that episode :(

Rakhal
November 6th, 2009, 06:28 AM
If only I didn't live in the UK. Another 4 days before I get to see it :(

(and as a result I tend not to look at this site between Fri evening and Tues evening)

--Rakhal

SupremeLegate
November 6th, 2009, 07:08 AM
I have to wait until 12:01am tomarrow before I can watch it, and I have to hope that OnDemand does not cut parts out agian.

leiasky
November 6th, 2009, 07:38 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing what the IOA is trying to do/control from so far away. It'll be nice to see them fail.

Less
November 6th, 2009, 07:44 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing what the IOA is trying to do/control from so far away. It'll be nice to see them fail.
Yup! Politicians are ALWAYS trying to assert control over stuff - especially if there's any kind of sizeable budget.

And seeing them fail will be most awesome!!!!

I think the word is schadenfreude.

Horcrux
November 6th, 2009, 07:56 AM
Since the pilot Tellford has been always mad at Young and in Darkness he ordered Scott to tell General Oneill to replace Young, maybe now on Earth he will get his wish and be the Commander and he will show that he is worst because of his intolerance and be kicked out of Destiny.

hedwig
November 6th, 2009, 08:19 AM
Since the pilot Tellford has been always mad at Young and in Darkness he ordered Scott to tell General Oneill to replace Young, maybe now on Earth he will get his wish and be the Commander and he will show that he is worst because of his intolerance and be kicked out of Destiny.

The bigger problem is if he was given command ... how would he command? He's not on Destiny; he's on earth. The only way he could command is by using somebody else's body in order to be on Destiny, and I really don't think anyone will be willing to trade bodies with him so that he can be in charge.

VSS
November 6th, 2009, 08:22 AM
Yup! Politicians are ALWAYS trying to assert control over stuff - especially if there's any kind of sizeable budget.

And seeing them fail will be most awesome!!!!

I think the word is schadenfreude.

I love that word! It sounds so much more sophisticated than "neener neener". :P

I just hope it takes more than one episode to fail.

blackluster
November 6th, 2009, 09:02 AM
The only way he could command is by using somebody else's body in order to be on Destiny, and I really don't think anyone will be willing to trade bodies with him so that he can be in charge.... and so Chloe's purpose on Destiny crystalizes. Having her swap with Telford would serve the dual purpose of putting the brakes on Scott's escapades.

leiasky
November 6th, 2009, 09:23 AM
... and so Chloe's purpose on Destiny crystalizes. Having her swap with Telford would serve the dual purpose of putting the brakes on Scott's escapades.


Ahh, that would be so delightful.

hedwig
November 6th, 2009, 10:15 AM
... and so Chloe's purpose on Destiny crystalizes. Having her swap with Telford would serve the dual purpose of putting the brakes on Scott's escapades.

:lol:

jelgate
November 6th, 2009, 10:24 AM
... and so Chloe's purpose on Destiny crystalizes. Having her swap with Telford would serve the dual purpose of putting the brakes on Scott's escapades.

She raises troop morale:P

major davis
November 6th, 2009, 11:16 AM
I would lol if telford switched with Chloe in the middle of one of her and Scott's escapades.