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thekillman
November 25th, 2008, 08:39 AM
i would like to make a compilation of everything you would absolutely hate to see on SGU. from hating certain Aliens to certain plots to certain characters to tech ETC.

and why please


1: People acting as gods. overdone
2: replicators. overdone
3: just one uniform enemy. lets make a kind of lucian alliance
4: no focus on love. rodney in love is OK. having someone think of his love is OK. but not right after being stuck on a ship. thats stupid.
5: absolutely no superaliens, only to be tuned down heavily.
6: and no alien joining the cast in Episode 1.
7: and no powerproblem from the start. apart from going home either by gate or hyperspace. OK, power can fail sometimes. OK, the ship can break down due to age. but not immediatly from the start.
8: annother thing: all extra budget for CGI being used for spacebattles. i mean, an energy bolt from ronon's gun is CGI too, as is the EH of a gate, as is a shield rising, as is a hologram. there's so much possible with more budget

discuss and expand

crowmagnumman
November 25th, 2008, 08:53 AM
1. Overuse of Canadian Forests. That's my biggest NO.
2. Generic and boring aliens.
3. Angsty characters with no sense of humor, and no admirable qualities.

Jaffa-master
November 25th, 2008, 09:05 AM
1 they found a way to get back. NO.
2 General Landry. No.
3 They call the gate man for chuck. No

Anon
November 25th, 2008, 09:12 AM
1. All knowing techies, no
2. unlimited P-90 clip (they have limited ammo u know)
3. all culture knowing alien.
4. many more, if u want to know, leave me a message on my profile

thekillman
November 25th, 2008, 09:26 AM
good good keep em coming

SylvreWolfe
November 25th, 2008, 09:32 AM
No humans that know everything, supersmart...NO
No humans that are educated beyond their abilities. No one with 3 PhDs by time they are 30, doesn't happen.

Anon
November 25th, 2008, 09:36 AM
unless they are ancient, wait then they are not human. whoops

major davis
November 25th, 2008, 10:35 AM
ALL the planets they visit are Canadien forests(Try Washington or Alaska)

bungeeguy245
November 25th, 2008, 10:42 AM
Dead people coming back. Takes all dramatic effect if we know they will be back in some way next season. If you kill them off, let them rest in peace and deal with the consequences.

Acolyte Of Bli'l'ab
November 25th, 2008, 11:03 AM
No old writers returning - I think they have run out of ideas.

No bipedal/humanoid enemies/aliens - boring and unrealistic, especially if its outside our galaxy and beyond. Asymmetrical/weird aliens or im not watching.

No earth-like alien worlds, especially "forests" - cheesey and boring. Strange and beautifully alien worlds or I dont care.

GhostPoet
November 25th, 2008, 11:06 AM
A stupid storyline involving characters on more than one occasion being completely irresponsible. I can stand maybe one or two occassions...we're human. but if they do it more than that....UGH

Alteran of Atlantis
November 25th, 2008, 11:13 AM
Don't overdo the relationship drama. Please no!

ToasterOnFire
November 25th, 2008, 11:27 AM
No reusing the same writing staff from SGA.

OH WAIT.

SylvreWolfe
November 25th, 2008, 11:44 AM
No Air Force officers that are experts at ground warfare, fighter pilots, and Special Forces combined.

DesertFox2020
November 25th, 2008, 11:45 AM
1. All knowing techies, no
2. unlimited P-90 clip (they have limited ammo u know)
3. all culture knowing alien.
4. many more, if u want to know, leave me a message on my profile
They just never show them reloading unless they're using their sidearms. And then they only have one mag, wtf?

I don't want to see it turn into BSG, or Star Trek. I want more use of the gate. I want aliens that don't speak english.

Alteran of Atlantis
November 25th, 2008, 11:48 AM
I want aliens that don't speak english.

Don't think that'll happen, unless they brind Daniel along. :p But we can dream, right?

Reiko
November 25th, 2008, 12:00 PM
1. Mallozzi
2. Mullie
3. Keller
4. Constant Cross-overs
5. Recycled Plotlines
6. Replicators
7. Shallow Romance
8. Romance without Chemistry
9. Pissing me off
10. Killing characters in crappy fashion for crappy reasons
11. Exploding tumours
12. Asuran beams
13. Stunt casting
14. Deux ex machinas
15. Retcon
16. Canonical contradiction
17. General ridiculousness
18. Date rape (without being addressed)
19. Cheese
20. Ignorance of female viewers
21. Sexism
22. Misogyny
23. No end
24. Unnecessary use of cleavage
25. Shallow characters
26. All-American cast
27. Lack of emotional depth
28. Plot cheats
29. Closed to new writers
30. Bad writing, bad writing, badwriting
31. Screwing with fans
32. Changing the whole show
33. Unnecessary expulsion
34. Lack of follow-through
35. Forgetting forshadowing
36. Bad set redressing
37. Character use imbalance
38. "We don't leave our people behind, except when it's convenient for the writers"
39. Lack of character arc
40. TPTB Groupthink

It's like a Christmas list...

Mrja84
November 25th, 2008, 12:13 PM
NO, Absolutely, NO CAST CHANGES! Unless, the actor/actress is a d**k. If you create a character (ex. Ford) USE THEM! Just because you use them doesn't mean their useless.

Also, NO male alien team member, who happens to be the strongest member AND best fighter.

Teyla was good, but then you said (F**K Ford, we're get Ronon ...(two seasons later).. What do we do with Teyla?)

Daniela
November 25th, 2008, 12:19 PM
Please no big romance stories.

ha'tak_
November 25th, 2008, 12:22 PM
i would like to make a compilation of everything you would absolutely hate to see on SGU. from hating certain Aliens to certain plots to certain characters to tech ETC.

and why please


1: People acting as gods. overdone
2: replicators. overdone
3: just one uniform enemy. lets make a kind of lucian alliance
4: no focus on love. rodney in love is OK. having someone think of his love is OK. but not right after being stuck on a ship. thats stupid.
5: absolutely no superaliens, only to be tuned down heavily.
6: and no alien joining the cast in Episode 1.
7: and no powerproblem from the start. apart from going home either by gate or hyperspace. OK, power can fail sometimes. OK, the ship can break down due to age. but not immediatly from the start.
8: annother thing: all extra budget for CGI being used for spacebattles. i mean, an energy bolt from ronon's gun is CGI too, as is the EH of a gate, as is a shield rising, as is a hologram. there's so much possible with more budget

discuss and expand

1. Agreed
2. Agreed
3. Dont care
4. Dont care
5.Agreed
6. aaa dont know , Both Telc and Teyla have turned out well
7. Agreed
8.AGREEEEED

Alteran of Atlantis
November 25th, 2008, 12:36 PM
Please no big romance stories.

Agreed. No "who's sleeping with who" crap.

Orion Antreas
November 25th, 2008, 12:58 PM
You know...some of the things you are suggesting or against (in SGU) costs mega $$. The show has a budget by the way...Yeah, it would be nice to see various, alien looking worlds, etc., but money is money. =\

I wouldn't want to see:


Humans. These are galaxies that haven't even been explored by the Ancients, thus no seeding. (Unless the ship that deploys the stargates is also a 'seeder'; however I doubt that.) Only humans we should see is our team on the Destiny. Simple as.
English-speaking aliens. As someone above mentioned, I would like to see a various and detailed language structure. At least a few races. I know as a show, it would be hard to have a complex language for each race, but maybe for the 'honcho' races, they can have a complex language structure. I wouldn't mind a few races where we have subtitles for them throughout a season/the series. A mix of things. Somewhat like how Star Wars was. A variety mix between subtitles and some races that we eventually learn their language (and basically the show transitions the race over to English speaking which would be easier on the watcher. This happened with the Goa'uld in the very beginning.)
Repilicators. This is a biggie among many people. I believe they have been overdone to death and need to be left alone. They were fun and interesting at first, but that concept/race has been sucked bone dry. Move onto other things. The only way I could see a replicator is if it's purpose is to repair the ship. It wouldn't be major or contribute to the storyline at all, but simply that would be the only way. However, a problem with that is that considering Repilicators weren't (indirectly) created until the time of the Lanteans (roughly 10,000 or so years ago; they evolved from the nanites they created.) and since the Destiny was launched way before Atlantis, there is no way we would see them based on what we have seen in the series.
All-male writing staff. Now, don't get me wrong. Male writers are great (some of them) and I am a guy myself...but come on, get some diversity on there. I would love to have a women writer part of Stargate to have almost a 'women' point of view to the story. When I say that, I mean...we always have the 'all-men writers' writing a typical 'male view' and I want to see a different side for once. I do know that it is hard to find women Sci-fi writers. It is a genre typically filled with men. If a few women are found and they have great talent, they (TPTB) better bring them aboard.
Same writers. This is somewhat connected to the above one, but this is more broad. Get new faces. I would like to keep some of the writers from the previous two series, except I think a few should be dropped or at least limited in the episodes per season they write...I won't say who in my opinion because I may offend a few people, but some should be dropped. I believe everyone should write less episodes then they did in season 5 Atlantis and allow some of the newer talent to fill in the gaps allowing for more diverse, original stories. (I.E. Martin Gero had 4 episodes in season 5. Having him on Universe, the most he should have a season would be 2.) Brad Wright is an exception however. Every episode he has written has been excellent in my opinion. That being said, I will sum it down. Bring in new faces, limit the amount that the old faces create and things surely will work.


There are more, but I am getting a bit lazy...

bungeeguy245
November 25th, 2008, 02:20 PM
1. Mallozzi
2. Mullie
3. Keller
4. Constant Cross-overs
5. Recycled Plotlines
6. Replicators
7. Shallow Romance
8. Romance without Chemistry
9. Pissing me off
10. Killing characters in crappy fashion for crappy reasons
11. Exploding tumours
12. Asuran beams
13. Stunt casting
14. Deux ex machinas
15. Retcon
16. Canonical contradiction
17. General ridiculousness
18. Date rape (without being addressed)
19. Cheese
20. Ignorance of female viewers
21. Sexism
22. Misogyny
23. No end
24. Unnecessary use of cleavage
25. Shallow characters
26. All-American cast
27. Lack of emotional depth
28. Plot cheats
29. Closed to new writers
30. Bad writing, bad writing, badwriting
31. Screwing with fans
32. Changing the whole show
33. Unnecessary expulsion
34. Lack of follow-through
35. Forgetting forshadowing
36. Bad set redressing
37. Character use imbalance
38. "We don't leave our people behind, except when it's convenient for the writers"
39. Lack of character arc
40. TPTB Groupthink

It's like a Christmas list...

#24-Why no to that. That part of the show is always awesome.

LordDylan
November 25th, 2008, 02:31 PM
No Humans.

No Deus Ex Machina weapons.

No Atlantis style Ancients.

No "Chloe".

haloplayer
November 25th, 2008, 02:40 PM
NO, Absolutely, NO CAST CHANGES! Unless, the actor/actress is a d**k. If you create a character (ex. Ford) USE THEM! Just because you use them doesn't mean their useless.

Also, NO male alien team member, who happens to be the strongest member AND best fighter.

Teyla was good, but then you said (F**K Ford, we're get Ronon ...(two seasons later).. What do we do with Teyla?)

How about no alien team member?

Airsoftguy
November 25th, 2008, 02:51 PM
No Air Force officers that are experts at ground warfare, fighter pilots, and Special Forces combined.

Why not?

Mclean
November 25th, 2008, 03:16 PM
No one powerful enemy dominating there own galaxy

Any possible Ancient settlement getting wiped out be an uncurable plague/highly dominant evil human-bug hybrids then our own little expidition curing/solving the problem with the use of apparant common sense!

The alien who will eventually join the flagship team to have limited responsibilty. There were times when Teyla was placed in a house sitting situation on Atlantis (when the commander of Atlantis went off-world) that overlooked ranking officers and scientists who lead there own science teams.

I do hope there's a mention of Sheppard getting a better haircut (we may see it/hear about it in the first episode). :D

Xylian
November 25th, 2008, 03:27 PM
1. No Humans in the universe, only strange aliens
2. Killing off characters for no reason
3. Redshirts
4. Unlimited ammo
5. Ancients
6. Canadian Forests, they should have strange alien worlds instead
7. Finding a way to get home
8. Replicators
9. Humans in the universe (have to make my point:D)
10. Reusing plots from past stargate shows
11. Useless space battles
12. Not using the stargate
13. All male writing staff (same reasons as Orion Coran)
14. Constant Cross-overs
15. Bringing dead characters back
16. Making fun of itself or bringing out the humor too often (in my opinion, Atlantis does this alot which is really annoying)
17. Wooden acting
18. Ancients (have to make my point again:D)
19. Meglomaniacal enemies that wish for every being to bow before them
20. Super enemies or Genetic hybrids (Kull and Michael's experiments for example)
21. Boring writing
22. Flashback episodes (like Politics and Inquisition)
23. Stupid plot devices
24. Using science all the time (less technobabble stuff and more exploring and adventuring like in Sg-1)
25. Shoot em' up and kill em' all the freakin' time
26. Theme song like Enterprise
27. Soap opera love scenes and stuff
28. Emotional depth (whoops, that was close, tptb almost had control of me there:D)
29. Cancelling the show just for movies
30. Stupid romances that never develop properly (Sam and Jack)
31. English speaking aliens
32. Finding races, devices, weapons, characters, etc. that have already been in a stargate show on the otherside of the universe without any reason whatsoever

Achiles
November 25th, 2008, 03:30 PM
1. Mallozzi
2. Mullie
3. Keller
4. Constant Cross-overs
5. Recycled Plotlines
6. Replicators
7. Shallow Romance
8. Romance without Chemistry
9. Pissing me off
10. Killing characters in crappy fashion for crappy reasons
11. Exploding tumours
12. Asuran beams
13. Stunt casting
14. Deux ex machinas
15. Retcon
16. Canonical contradiction
17. General ridiculousness
18. Date rape (without being addressed)
19. Cheese
20. Ignorance of female viewers
21. Sexism
22. Misogyny
23. No end
24. Unnecessary use of cleavage
25. Shallow characters
26. All-American cast
27. Lack of emotional depth
28. Plot cheats
29. Closed to new writers
30. Bad writing, bad writing, badwriting
31. Screwing with fans
32. Changing the whole show
33. Unnecessary expulsion
34. Lack of follow-through
35. Forgetting forshadowing
36. Bad set redressing
37. Character use imbalance
38. "We don't leave our people behind, except when it's convenient for the writers"
39. Lack of character arc
40. TPTB Groupthink

It's like a Christmas list...
25 is unrealistic. There is always some person that is shallow. Can you think of one person that is shallow?

SylvreWolfe
November 25th, 2008, 03:49 PM
No Big Magic Reset Buttons

Anon
November 25th, 2008, 03:55 PM
Reiko

24: Unnecessary use of cleavge

everybody loves ome cleavage

Wolf O'Donnell
November 25th, 2008, 03:57 PM
i know its already been said but i can not stand Canadian forest planets.
For the love of god give me beach or even like.... a mud pit...

Alteran of Atlantis
November 25th, 2008, 04:09 PM
No Atlantis style Ancients.

No "Chloe".

I like the Atlantis style Ancients, though! Would like to see more of them.

I have to agree with you on the "Chloe" one, though...

Lee1818
November 25th, 2008, 05:23 PM
the unessesry plot holes, just plan it out and follow rules if your not sure who was first walking in rewatch the episode or re read it

and a overall story line it needs to go some where not draged out with a unsure endin in sites (cough lost cough)

and the super atractive people at every turn .... need i say more

sorry for any spelling mistakes

Replicator Fifth
November 25th, 2008, 05:35 PM
1. Overuse of Canadian Forests. That's my biggest NO.
2. Generic and boring aliens.
3. Angsty characters with no sense of humor, and no admirable qualities.

1.Generic and boring aliens
2.Angsty characters with no sense of humour or admirable qualities.
definitely. this isn't supposed to be a soup opera!


(any chance Patrick Currie would audition for a part?)

ellabooray
November 25th, 2008, 05:51 PM
I don't want to see them meeting a new race/people every single episode
I know they can explore the whole universe but its nice to get to know People

Replicator Fifth
November 25th, 2008, 05:52 PM
1. No Humans in the universe, only strange aliens
2. Killing off characters for no reason
3. Redshirts
4. Unlimited ammo
5. Ancients
6. Canadian Forests, they should have strange alien worlds instead
7. Finding a way to get home
8. Replicators
9. Humans in the universe (have to make my point:D)
10. Reusing plots from past stargate shows
11. Useless space battles
12. Not using the stargate
13. All male writing staff (same reasons as Orion Coran)
14. Constant Cross-overs
15. Bringing dead characters back
16. Making fun of itself or bringing out the humor too often (in my opinion, Atlantis does this alot which is really annoying)
17. Wooden acting
18. Ancients (have to make my point again:D)
19. Meglomaniacal enemies that wish for every being to bow before them
20. Super enemies or Genetic hybrids (Kull and Michael's experiments for example)
21. Boring writing
22. Flashback episodes (like Politics and Inquisition)
23. Stupid plot devices
24. Using science all the time (less technobabble stuff and more exploring and adventuring like in Sg-1)
25. Shoot em' up and kill em' all the freakin' time
26. Theme song like Enterprise
27. Soap opera love scenes and stuff
28. Emotional depth (whoops, that was close, tptb almost had control of me there:D)
29. Cancelling the show just for movies
30. Stupid romances that never develop properly (Sam and Jack)
31. English speaking aliens
32. Finding races, devices, weapons, characters, etc. that have already been in a stargate show on the otherside of the universe without any reason whatsoever

3. their inevitable.
4.very realistic.
5. Stargate has to have ancients, unfortunatly.
6. that unreasonable. what? should they CGI the worlds?
8. I should probably be offended but I see your point and agree.
12. What the ****? its called STARGATE universe
15. it gets annoying I know
19 and 20. that leaves a very small amount of villain archetypes
21. define boring. last few episodes of Atlantis boring or what?
31. honestly, I want, maybe, two new languages. but no more it'll slow down the plot.

Rise Of The Phoenix
November 25th, 2008, 05:55 PM
Nice thread thekillman, it's good to see some original use of a Universe thread, which I think deserves some green. :D

Here's my big no(s):

1. Pointless filler episodes that do nothing to either progress the shows general story arks, character development or at least give some much needed break in the story (the latter could still include character/team development or explore the relationships of parts of the group).
2. Silly irrelevant humor performed by any characters that aren't funny.
3. Introduction of races that we don't get to actually see at least once unless they contribute to some bigger story especially of they are uber (could have been the Furlings).
4. Lack of interesting characters/races/creatures.
5. Overdone samey races.
6. Lack of tension and suspense in key moments of the show.
7. Introduction of tech that makes the team too powerful too soon, unless there's some level of balance.

ellabooray
November 25th, 2008, 05:59 PM
Nice thread thekillman, it's good to see some original use of a Universe thread, which I think deserves some green. :D

Here's my big no(s):

1. Pointless filler episodes that do nothing to either progress the shows general story arks, character development or at least give some much needed break in the story (the latter could still include character/team development or explore the relationships of parts of the group).
2. Silly irrelevant humor performed by any characters that aren't funny.
3. Introduction of races that we don't get to actually see at least once unless they contribute to some bigger story especially of they are uber (could have been the Furlings).
4. Lack of interesting characters/races/creatures.
5. Overdone samey races.
6. Lack of tension and suspense in key moments of the show.
7. Introduction of tech that makes the team too powerful too soon, unless there's some level of balance.


Agreeing with you !!
The team should have challenges but not power like Atlantis (someone already pointed that out

TBH i would rather they made a few more seasons of SGA and left time for Univers to get reallly good and not rush into it

:jonas:

ellabooray
November 25th, 2008, 06:15 PM
Since no one is commenting i shall go now
but feel free to message me

: )

crowmagnumman
November 25th, 2008, 06:49 PM
Like someone mentioned above, another thing I don't want to see is too many filler episodes. No matter how bad a show is, if it's got a good ongoing story that threads through most episodes, then I'm a lot more likely to watch it.

Rise Of The Phoenix
November 25th, 2008, 06:54 PM
Agreeing with you !!
The team should have challenges but not power like Atlantis (someone already pointed that out

TBH i would rather they made a few more seasons of SGA and left time for Univers to get reallly good and not rush into it

:jonas:

:cool:
I get that if Destiny has been traveling around the Universe for millions of years, perhaps unintentionally invading different races territories then it would have to have at least a powerful enough shield, or even some really strong hull armor, perhaps with decent repair facilities on board, but making it invincible (like Atlantis with ZPMs or some equivalent level power source) would be a bit silly especially in the beginning.

Regarding the whole Atlantis cancellation thing I've accepted it now, I do agree at least 1 season more would've been good to properly finish off the show, but the decision's been made and from what I hear Universe has been in the pan for quite some time.

I look forward to seeing what the new show can offer us fans. :D


Since no one is commenting i shall go now
but feel free to message me

: )

I'm not sure if this was directed at me or not, apologies if you thought I was being ignorant I had a few speed problems loading pages on GW (which has sorted it's self out now ;)) and had gone away from this thread for a bit. :)

Rise Of The Phoenix
November 25th, 2008, 06:57 PM
Like someone mentioned above, another thing I don't want to see is too many filler episodes. No matter how bad a show is, if it's got a good ongoing story that threads through most episodes, then I'm a lot more likely to watch it.

According to JoeM's blog you're getting your wish, I don't have a caption or link but I've read on here that at least the first season will have one long 20 episode story ark, although whether it's good of course still remains to be seen. :D

GateFanSamJack
November 25th, 2008, 07:55 PM
How about we skip the SciFi episode that soooo often comes between episodes 2-6 of a new series where something affects everyone and lowers their inhibitions? I get how there's the temptation to hash out the characters quickly to get the series rolling, but I'd rather see the characters developed more naturally.

Long story arcs aren't too bad if they don't go overboard like Battlestar Galactica did. It kept me riveted for the first season, but that very same thing is what is making me feel like that show just drags on and I can't imagine getting into such a show if I hadn't been watching from the beginning. In watching DVD's of seasons of SG-1, I'm finding the longer story arcs don't have the same rewatchability as stand alones.

Replicator Fifth
November 25th, 2008, 08:01 PM
How about we skip the SciFi episode that soooo often comes between episodes 2-6 of a new series where something affects everyone and lowers their inhibitions? I get how there's the temptation to hash out the characters quickly to get the series rolling, but I'd rather see the characters developed more naturally.

Long story arcs aren't too bad if they don't go overboard like Battlestar Galactica did. It kept me riveted for the first season, but that very same thing is what is making me feel like that show just drags on and I can't imagine getting into such a show if I hadn't been watching from the beginning. In watching DVD's of seasons of SG-1, I'm finding the longer story arcs don't have the same rewatchability as stand alones.

agreed

Reiko
November 25th, 2008, 08:07 PM
25 is unrealistic. There is always some person that is shallow. Can you think of one person that is shallow?

What are you asking for? I think you're contradicting yourself there. :S

xenophanez
November 25th, 2008, 08:24 PM
Do whatever they wanna do, just DON'T turn it into Startrek Voyager & Enterprise.:atlantistrio:

g.o.d
November 25th, 2008, 09:43 PM
My biggest NO are the current TPTB

ussrelativity
November 25th, 2008, 10:56 PM
The writers for SGU are the EXACT SAME writers for Atlantis.

g.o.d
November 25th, 2008, 11:19 PM
The writers for SGU are the EXACT SAME writers for Atlantis.

yeah, unfortunately

MechaThor
November 26th, 2008, 03:56 AM
I have no real big NO's with Universe, since I am actually looking forward to it, and can't wait to see watch it.

However there are some small things I would not like to see in Universe when compared to SG-1 & SGA, and they are....

1. No Ancients. Ok we can have the Stargates, the ships we are on and maybe the odd lost ship or space station for resupplies on Drones and jumpers. However as far as we know the Ancients never actually made it to the Universe Galaxy in person, so I don't want to see any of their past mistakes, city ships, replicators, ruins, research on ascension ect... If we are going to have a great race in the show, I want the Furlings or Nox.

2. Other Galaxy evolutions of Humans. Since its stargate and creating humans is cheap, easy and the writers love them I know there will end up being countless Human planets. However I DON'T want any as it won't make any sense on us being present in a 4th galaxy! If Universe shows us that the Ancients have seeded another galaxy with Humans, thats it, I will be 100% convinced that the Ancients where Racists. I will allow the odd human like aliens for budget reasons, however I don't want them to actually be Humans (or half humans).

3. Replicators: If I see one more Human form replicator I will scream! They have been done to death (literally, TWICE), The Bugs I am ok with, however even them I don't wish to see again.

4. Asgard Beams or beams in general! Even if they contact Earth again, I want their to be some compatibility issue, meaning that they cannot install Asgard Beams onto the Destiny. Bring back Rings!

5. Human computers being able to "Plug and Play" with previously unknown and highly advanced technology. I mean is a PC & a MAC sometimes can't communicate then why would a human laptop and an Alien supercomputer?

6. English Speaking Aliens, without reason. Personally I would not mind the use of sub titles, or for once they could use some form of Alien nano tech translator? Maybe one they get from a new race in Universe?

7. Aliens with nothing but Stun guns.

8. endless amounts of low tech civilizations, I would not mind seeing a galaxy where most of the Aliens already known each other and have well developed, technology and trade like the Farscape or Star Trek Universes.

9. "What is it?"...."Pine Trees Sir, and lots of them"

Goose
November 26th, 2008, 04:29 AM
As long as there are no Replicators of ANY kind, I'll be happy.

ha'tak_
November 26th, 2008, 04:35 AM
How about no alien team member?
but like telc he was great , if there is another one like telc then i´m Okey whit it


As long as there are no Replicators of ANY kind, I'll be happy.

cant say how much i agree whit you, replacators SUCK

thekillman
November 26th, 2008, 07:09 AM
i made this thread because i looked around and realised, that apparently everyone has an opinion of what he hates. so i thought: make a unification thread.


some really strong points. replicators are the biggest no, along with stupid romance, plotholes, inconsistency, and stupid characters. and Canadian forests.


well not all is achievable. but as i said, SGU has a bigger budget. some terrific stuff has been done on alien worlds.

low tech races are bad. not everyone is medieval.

i think powertrouble has been done much in SGA, overrun bases in SG1. SGU has most potency in breakdowns. why? the damn craft is millions of years old. i can imagine a rodney type face when a button is pressed, and nothing happens. and then, "WTF".


BIG NO:

-repairing by rearranging crystals. i know its easy, but cant there be some REAL stuff breaking down? Ala, welders running around. wires being attached, etc

Kryhs
November 26th, 2008, 03:10 PM
This is a big one for me, sorry if you disagree :/

NO to always-happy endings like in Atlantis. Do what they did in SG1, something bad happens, and the endings are sad, and everything turns out wrong.

jelgate
November 26th, 2008, 03:46 PM
Are you kidding me?

SG1 had way more happy endings then SGA ever did

crowmagnumman
November 26th, 2008, 04:37 PM
According to JoeM's blog you're getting your wish, I don't have a caption or link but I've read on here that at least the first season will have one long 20 episode story ark, although whether it's good of course still remains to be seen. :D

Yep, I read that. It makes me a bit more optimistic about the show. I think there was a time when stand-alone episodes in a sci-fi could be good. But now it seems like every stand-alone plot is recycled from Star Trek. I don't really trust the writers on Universe, but I think they're at least headed in the right direction giving it a more serialistic format.

Alteran of Atlantis
November 26th, 2008, 04:43 PM
No making the Ancients look like morons. They are't that stupid! :mckay:

Amaunet
November 26th, 2008, 05:39 PM
My biggest NO would be to keep it "Stargate", I'm not that interested in Sci-fi apart from SG and I would hate it to become just another Star Trek or BSG. I personally think Stargate has always had something else...and I hope Universe doesn't lose that... ;)


Here's my big no(s):

1. Pointless filler episodes that do nothing to either progress the shows general story arks, character development or at least give some much needed break in the story (the latter could still include character/team development or explore the relationships of parts of the group).

Agreed!! - (although there have been the occasional filler episode that has been pretty good)

SylvreWolfe
November 26th, 2008, 06:25 PM
No cast members from Sg1 and SGA

Rise Of The Phoenix
November 26th, 2008, 06:55 PM
Yep, I read that. It makes me a bit more optimistic about the show. I think there was a time when stand-alone episodes in a sci-fi could be good. But now it seems like every stand-alone plot is recycled from Star Trek. I don't really trust the writers on Universe, but I think they're at least headed in the right direction giving it a more serialistic format.

I have been looking forward to getting to see SGU ever since the early Gateworld stories on it came through, but when I read that the first season could have one big ark it has just got me even more excited.
The premier of the season can't come soon enough for me. :)


No making the Ancients look like morons. They are't that stupid! :mckay:

I totally agree with that. :daniel:


My biggest NO would be to keep it "Stargate", I'm not that interested in Sci-fi apart from SG and I would hate it to become just another Star Trek or BSG. I personally think Stargate has always had something else...and I hope Universe doesn't lose that... ;)

I assume you meant that your biggest no would be to 'not' keep it Stargate and I agree, Star Trek and BSG can become a bit too serious most of the time, especially BSG, so to loose much of the well timed funny stuff and the unique team dynamics would be another BIG NO. :)


Agreed!! - (although there have been the occasional filler episode that has been pretty good)

:cool:
Oh yeah some of those SG1, SGA 'Filler' episodes have definitely been good and they can certainly help with the momentum of Universe's overall story, which if Joe M is telling the truth about season 1 in his blog, will help to prevent the story becoming too stale and the odd breaks are needed every now and then IMO.

Wardog117
November 26th, 2008, 09:04 PM
Here are my thoughts:

1. No super race
Keep in mind that the Destiny will be moving throughout this new galaxy. If the show lasts for 10 seasons, they should have about 3-4 main enemy races. These could be handled in about 3 seasons respectively. If there is a super race, there needs to be a group of races making a federation per se. This means that as they go through the new galaxy, they would encounter the different members of the coalition. (Of course, some couldn't be humanoid). A combination of alien language and English should be used. (Like Star Trek TNG Klingons)

2. No "Simple Farmers and Traders"
Atlantis has had countless times where they were ambushed by people Teyla thought were only a simple race. This is a Stargate cliche and can't translate to the new series.

3. Keep the Romance Realistic
Like an earlier post suggested, avoid the "loses inhibitions episode". I know for a fact that Star Trek, TNG, and SG1 have had this type of episode in the first few episodes. As far as romances, nothing should get serious until the end of Season 1. If not, it gets a bit ridiculous.

4. Vary the scenary
Everyone is tired of the "Canadian forest". I have seen the same trees nearly every episode. Bring in some truly foreign and exotic locales.

5. Avoid SG1/Atlantis Races
This is a totally new show. Limit if not prohibit us from seeing the same races again and again.

MechaThor
November 27th, 2008, 02:13 AM
I hope some of the shows creators have a look at this thread before its too late, As I know they are still in writing.

I mean, I don't expect them to actually do any of these suggested changes, especially ones like no more Pine Tree forests or not one human alien. However it would be nice for them to have a list of things that no Stargate fans ever want to see again, then they can blacklist them from any future stories in Universe. I.e. NO REPLICATORS.


Here are my thoughts:

1. No super race
Keep in mind that the Destiny will be moving throughout this new galaxy. If the show lasts for 10 seasons, they should have about 3-4 main enemy races. These could be handled in about 3 seasons respectively. If there is a super race, there needs to be a group of races making a federation per se. This means that as they go through the new galaxy, they would encounter the different members of the coalition. (Of course, some couldn't be humanoid). A combination of alien language and English should be used. (Like Star Trek TNG Klingons)

Agreed. Of Course there will be some large ruling races, however I would rather see a more mixed galaxy, with a larger variety of alien races and maybe 2-4 BIG controlling races which all have their own areas of space and own conflicts and allies. Something like Farscape or Star Trek inwhich rather than us prompting a galaxy wide war with one purely evil minded alien race, instead we get stuck in the middle of one which has already been going on in a well established galaxy.


2. No "Simple Farmers and Traders"
Atlantis has had countless times where they were ambushed by people Teyla thought were only a simple race. This is a Stargate cliche and can't translate to the new series.

Again I agree I want it to be a galaxy where another race or two have already come alone and explored and developed and interconnected galaxy, such as the Farscape one. Of Course their can be the odd village living race, but as a whole I would like to see a real mixed bag, with most races being equal or more advanced as are own. However I fear they will still be using that dam Village set.



4. Vary the scenary
Everyone is tired of the "Canadian forest". I have seen the same trees nearly every episode. Bring in some truly foreign and exotic locales.

Even if they do have to use the same old forests again, they could atleast dress them up a bit more, and actually try and make them look different (and I don't just mean by changing the light). Maybe Props could build some realistic looking Alien plants or Fungi which can be places into a forest well enough to blend in. Or they could use colour correction on the leaves to change them to blue or something. If done well it would look good, however if done bad it will just look fake and crap.



5. Avoid SG1/Atlantis Races
This is a totally new show. Limit if not prohibit us from seeing the same races again and again.

I am not 100% in agreement here. I would NOT like to see some of the well established alien races from the past like ascended Ancients, Ori, Goa'uld, Wraith, REPLICATORS (BOTH KINDS), Asgard (although I love them they have had their time, plus I don't want Beaming tech again, as it can really spoil the storytelling). However some of the lesser galaxic races might be good to see get some real screentime in Universe such as the Nox, Furlings or even the Foothold aliens!

Vespasianus
November 27th, 2008, 09:30 AM
My big 'NO' concerns the super weapons such as Dakara, the Antarctic weapon platform, Merlin's red stone, the Ark of Truth, the Attero device, so please writers, NO SUPER WEAPONS!

Which brings me to my smaller NOs:

2. No super bad guys who could only be defeated by these super weapons.

3. No characters returning from the dead. If someone dies, don't resurrect her/him.

4. Do not make the show too serious, although it seems from the interviews that the humor remains, so that's not very likely.


Other than that, I have no major NOs.

Tsaalyo Phoenix
November 27th, 2008, 12:56 PM
4. Vary the scenary
Everyone is tired of the "Canadian forest". I have seen the same trees nearly every episode. Bring in some truly foreign and exotic locales.
You're just jealous of our lush forests and crystal clear lakes. :P

Anyway, I'm concerned about how so many of the characters are in need of some kind of therapy. After the fourth mental breakdown from their situation it'll get pretty repetitive.

Also, no McKay, lol.

humanityspotential
November 27th, 2008, 05:07 PM
[QUOTE=Vespasianus;9303880]My big 'NO' concerns the super weapons such as Dakara, the Antarctic weapon platform, Merlin's red stone, the Ark of Truth, the Attero device, so please writers, NO SUPER WEAPONS!

Which brings me to my smaller NOs:

2. No super bad guys who could only be defeated by these super weapons.
QUOTE]

Completely agree. I want a flesh and blood, come to know and hate bad guy.

My big NOs are (or pet hates)
1. the big scifi cliche ("you know how I hate those") of running out of oxygen as a plot device. I don't know why but this has really come to irk me.
2. being able to fly all kinds of alien craft just because you can fly a fighter jet.
3. Never using the stargates (just flying and beaming everywhere)
4. Kirking or if you do referencing Kirk
5. Gods - I know this is a Stargate staple but I'm over it.

Col.Ads
November 28th, 2008, 01:49 AM
My big 'NO' concerns the super weapons such as Dakara, the Antarctic weapon platform, Merlin's red stone, the Ark of Truth, the Attero device, so please writers, NO SUPER WEAPONS!

Which brings me to my smaller NOs:

2. No super bad guys who could only be defeated by these super weapons.

3. No characters returning from the dead. If someone dies, don't resurrect her/him.

4. Do not make the show too serious, although it seems from the interviews that the humor remains, so that's not very likely.


Other than that, I have no major NOs.

Thats pretty much the same for me.

Another super bad guy would just be stupid and undermine past stories, the only thing i can think of is a furling story which is my only exception.

Characters returning from the dead is another no agreed

wouldnt mind if it went to the old days of sg1

thekillman
November 28th, 2008, 08:22 AM
good good.


well theres a difference between a MAJOR race and a SUPER race.


Major: goauld, travellers, jaffa, Wraith etc.
SUPER: replicators, Ori, Asurans.

major races are races with the knowledge, tech and equipment to settle and travel across the galaxy. advanced, but not undefeatable.

Superraces are races with superadvanced tech, and seem unbeatable. only the MWR got a real good death, the asurans and ori watered down REALLY fast

Professor D.H.D. Puddlejumper
November 28th, 2008, 06:45 PM
Two no's as follows:

1) Every third or fourth episode is a "We-almost-make-it-back-to-earth-but-due -to-some-last-minute-glitch-we're-still-stuck-out-here" episode.
In other words if they really can't get back to earth then let it stay that way and let that be a reality of the storyline that the characters have to deal with.

2) No conflicts with the existing Ancients timeline.

thekillman
November 29th, 2008, 05:14 AM
no ancients watering down. again.

GateFanSamJack
November 29th, 2008, 06:33 AM
Two no's as follows:

1) Every third or fourth episode is a "We-almost-make-it-back-to-earth-but-due -to-some-last-minute-glitch-we're-still-stuck-out-here" episode.
In other words if they really can't get back to earth then let it stay that way and let that be a reality of the storyline that the characters have to deal with.

...

.

So, you're saying they shouldn't go after the Gilligan's Island fans?

pwells
November 29th, 2008, 09:13 AM
No clip show episodes.
No big romance.
No (or maybe just once) parallel universe/alternate timeline episodes.

Professor D.H.D. Puddlejumper
November 29th, 2008, 09:14 AM
So, you're saying they shouldn't go after the Gilligan's Island fans?

LOL.:D That's one way of putting it. Lost In Space too. And to some extent Star Trek Voyager. :D

SylvreWolfe
November 29th, 2008, 10:09 AM
There is always the, *We made it back to earth, but later realize we changed timeline/alternate reality/etc so have to go back and fix it, thus getting us stuck back in space again,* story

thekillman
November 30th, 2008, 12:40 AM
lol.

look i think it could be cool to have a discussion wheter to change what has happened, by using a good old solarflare.

i was more thinking of:

we go back in time somehow, arrive at the destiny, and we have to make the ship escape from disaster, but it changes the future a bit, so one team member nearly gets killed, or so.

GateFanSamJack
December 1st, 2008, 06:14 AM
Not so much a big NO...


Scenes that end in spoken dialogue that includes the words "awkward" or "uncomfortable"

Hanging a lantern on intimate character moments has turned into a device to end a scene quickly.

Pro: more time for explosions.
Con: It shows up too frequently.

Solution: ask the new lady, the character writer, that's what she's there for (Psst...I don't have any knowledge of a new writer, but I stand by the suggestion for a solution)

wizz_kid_sid
December 1st, 2008, 10:40 AM
No super advanced or pathetic weak race as enemies!! - Should have an enemy that is at the exact same level of tech (with obvious differences ofcourse) as earth. But baddies.

Krisz
December 1st, 2008, 01:31 PM
A 'Neelix' character! - 'Quirky' (read...annoying) alien trying to understand Humans and their customs!

Canadian Forests - I love 'em, have to really...:P, but I see them every day and would really like a break when we're supposed to be seeing characters visiting exotic alien planets! :(

"Try it now...." - Fixed every time!

Peoples_General
December 1st, 2008, 04:10 PM
NO, Star Trek style "aliens", aka humans with a few dots on the forehead or pointy ears.

Betelgeuze
December 2nd, 2008, 05:22 AM
A single advanced bad guy. I don't want there to be a single hostile race that dominates the entire galaxy like the Goa'uld or the Wraith.

Too many low tech civillizations: We have seen to many of those in SG-1 and SGA

Earth based mythology/religions: If they don't take the oppertunity to create new mythologies i will be dissapointed.

No absolute good/evil: No pure evil enemies like the Ori. Or enemies who are 'evil' because of their nature, like the Wraith.

Pharaoh Atem
December 2nd, 2008, 06:45 AM
no to having the same writing staff as sg1 and sga

SylvreWolfe
December 2nd, 2008, 09:32 AM
no to having the same writing staff as sg1 and sga


Amen

A_PophisandhisFran
December 2nd, 2008, 01:08 PM
No replicators. I could actually see TPTB trying to throw them in there when they run out of ideas.

If the world were perfect, NO ancients. I know they have ancient technology, but still... I'm sick of the arrogant ancients.

Hermiiod
December 3rd, 2008, 08:32 AM
6: and no alien joining the cast in Episode 1.

Agreed.

Ravroz
December 3rd, 2008, 09:46 AM
I would have to agree no Replicators or form of them. Plus I hope they don't destroy every nice piece of tech as soon as they get it.

Infinatus
December 4th, 2008, 04:25 PM
No characters nicknamed Psycho, Slacker, Every Girl's Fantasy, or Party Girl.

Colonel Crawford
December 6th, 2008, 06:19 AM
No Air Force officers that are experts at ground warfare, fighter pilots, and Special Forces combined.

Exactly!

Colonel Crawford
December 6th, 2008, 06:32 AM
No finding superweapons/tech and having to use(deplete or get it destroyed) the next episode.

E.g. Orion

No falling into obvious enemy traps. Risking the sake of everything on the word of an alien.

No being 100% moral at the time, always doing the nice/right thing. These people aren't intergalactic missionaries.

No 25 year old smoking hot doctors.(Keller, Landry's daughter)

No regularily disobeying a superior officer's orders. And getting away with it.(O'niell, Sheppard)

I love Star Trek: Voyager, but please don't emulate that.

thekillman
December 7th, 2008, 12:26 AM
in SGU, moral will prob be pushed aside more by survival. thats the question: do we survive or do we walk the moral way

Rac80
December 7th, 2008, 09:59 AM
no to having the same writing staff as sg1 and sga

Especially Martin gero. JUST SAY NO!!!!!!!!!!

Jaffa-master
December 8th, 2008, 03:24 AM
Replicators nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

GateFanSamJack
December 8th, 2008, 09:56 PM
I like that suggestion of not being so moral.

Quadhelix
December 9th, 2008, 06:20 PM
No being 100% moral at the time, always doing the nice/right thing. These people aren't intergalactic missionaries. Funny. Nearly every time the team does something less than 125% moral in Stargate: Atlantis, the board practically crashes from the sudden rush of complaints that the team is being "evil," or other such issues




No regularily disobeying a superior officer's orders. And getting away with it.(O'niell, Sheppard)
Of course, it would probably be a bit more believable in this context, given the whole "cut off from Earth" thing also means "cut off from court martial" as well as the limited command staff.




I am not 100% in agreement here. I would NOT like to see some of the well established alien races from the past like ascended Ancients, Ori, Goa'uld, Wraith, REPLICATORS (BOTH KINDS), Asgard (although I love them they have had their time, plus I don't want Beaming tech again, as it can really spoil the storytelling). However some of the lesser galaxic races might be good to see get some real screentime in Universe such as the Nox, Furlings or even the Foothold aliens!
No! Stargate: Universe, from what we can tell so far, takes place so far away from the rest of the Milky Way and from Pegasus that any hint of an alien species previously encountered by the Ancients borders on absurd.


The Destiny has been traveling for millions of years, going from galaxy to galaxy at least once every several years. Do have any idea how far away from Known Space (namely, the Milky Way and Pegasus galaxies) it would be by now?

SylvreWolfe
December 9th, 2008, 10:34 PM
It doesn't matter how far away you are from *court martial* procedurals, there are still rules and they are to be obeyed.

ziga1980
December 10th, 2008, 01:22 AM
here's my list:
-no superhuman abilities (if non humans have them it's ok)
-no super powerful enemy (shields, weapons)
-no stupid military tactics (assaults, gunfights, and when entering a new village the never post spotters or guards around it for backup etc.)
-no stupid guards (i wonder why every guard in SGA is standing post with his back towards the prisoners like he's protecting them...and they always break out of the holding and take the guard from the back...i HATE THAT CRAP)
-no ****ty drama (like with sheppard when it's constantly implied that something very very very extremely bad happened to him and it's never followed through)
-no super scientist (mckay/carter they always do something impossible and they have never seen the tech before. for someone that never drove a car or seen someone do it, driving could prove impossible)
-no moral BS (like with micheal, where they didn't have the stomach to finish the research...and kill him)
-no P-90s (there are better weapons that can do the job)
-no impossible odds of survival
-no casualties(they should suffer losses)

i think that they should do something ever done before on stargate. let's see...

the galaxy they're in should be torn by war. there are a few (more than 2) sides that are waging war and the team struggles too stay neutral. and the galaxy should really be in a war. it'd cool to see a massive ground battle with alien weapons but neither side get's the upper hand. there is no need for expensive space battles. maybe there should be a minor one sometime but nothing fancy.

anyway it's not a SGU wish list thread.

Quadhelix
December 10th, 2008, 06:18 AM
It doesn't matter how far away you are from *court martial* procedurals, there are still rules and they are to be obeyed. True, but it would be much harder to enforce those rules in what amounts to a flying frontier town.

thekillman
December 10th, 2008, 06:47 AM
p-90's are there cause the actors like em.

GateFanSamJack
December 10th, 2008, 08:22 AM
...

No! Stargate: Universe, from what we can tell so far, takes place so far away from the rest of the Milky Way and from Pegasus that any hint of an alien species previously encountered by the Ancients borders on absurd.


The Destiny has been traveling for millions of years, going from galaxy to galaxy at least once every several years. Do have any idea how far away from Known Space (namely, the Milky Way and Pegasus galaxies) it would be by now?

I haven't seen it stated explicitly how much the Destiny has traveled so far. I think we could both be drawing different conclusions from the same source depending on whether the Destiny is assumed to have been traveling this whole time. That they eventually start meeting up with gates placed centuries ahead of them would lead me to your conclusion if I knew more about how the Destiny's course is plotted.

Quadhelix
December 10th, 2008, 08:59 AM
I haven't seen it stated explicitly how much the Destiny has traveled so far. I think we could both be drawing different conclusions from the same source depending on whether the Destiny is assumed to have been traveling this whole time. That they eventually start meeting up with gates placed centuries ahead of them would lead me to your conclusion if I knew more about how the Destiny's course is plotted.
I'm estimating that the travels from galaxy to galaxy at least once ever four or five years. If this is the case (and I'm guessing that it actually closer to once a season), then the fact that the Destiny has been traveling for "millions of years" means that it has visited at least ~200,000 galaxies. Given that the Ancients, Asgard, and Nox were all pretty much clustered together in the Local Group (which contains about 40 galaxies if you're generous about what constitutes a galaxy), it is fairly safe to say that the Destiny is well, well, well beyond the Ancients' "Known Space."

GateFanSamJack
December 10th, 2008, 01:44 PM
I assumed you'd done your homework on the distance calc's. What I meant was whether the ship was moving at all all this time.

JPS
December 10th, 2008, 07:47 PM
My big NO on Universe? Easy one there and the answer is 2-fold ...
1) Stargate has kept a loyal audience for 12 years with great acting and dare I say loveable characters without resorting to Susie and the SexPistols and I for one am appalled they feel the need to toss the age demographic that has stuck by them all these years to "appeal to a younger audience" by turning it into Sexgate.

2) Brad Wright is involved. I've been an avid fan for years and for one of TPTB to say of the franchise fanbase "we could slap Stargate on anything and people will watch" like we're all mindless herd animals who will watch anything. Screw him. He and Robert went running off to make their movies which for me were a waste of $40. He basically gave up on Atlantis long before the axe dropped ... saying "we won't be running series concurrently again" and "we're concentrating on pitching SGU" before the announcement was even made which left me with a very sour taste.

In short, aside of some grand miracle like Lorne having a major role (no pun intended) in Universe, I'm done with anything Brad's Wright is involved with.

kara58
December 11th, 2008, 06:01 AM
NO ROMANCE! And NO sexy female aliens.

aweeasian
December 11th, 2008, 12:52 PM
I'm afraid I can't find one huge thing that I wouldn't like for SGU, so this is my list of things I wouldn't want to see on the show:

1. No alien on the team that is emotionless (e.g. Teal'c, Spock) That's become so much of a cliche.

2. No replicators. The whole idea was used in Atlantis and even worse, in Ark of Truth. Definite no.

3. No Goa'uld. Again, been used before. I'm fine a couple of familiar things here and there, but those two baddies I don't want to see ever again.

4. No "glorifying" of the Ancients. In Atlantis, all they ever do is talk about how wonderful and smart the Ancients were, but when you think about it, they're really not that cool. They regarded human life as an experiment (by not helping the humans on other worlds when they kept getting attacked by the Iratus bug, and later on the wraith) They were overconfident (when they didn't take precautions when the human replicators attacked Atlantis, which later got themselves killed) They were SNOBBY when they came up with those rules when they ascended about not helping humanity. If we ever find out something new about the Ancients, I want it to be something bad.

5. No one universal baddie and a bunch of minor ones that appear in one episode and then suddenly are forgotten about. I want a collection of bad guys kinda've like the Covenant from the Halo franchise, except without the whole we have to kill humans because they don't worship the Forerunners.

6. On top of that, no religious fanatics. I personally hated the last two seasons of SG-1 because of the Ori, mainly because of the ginormous parallel they made between the Ori and certain religions. It was bad taste. Not to mention that the solution to this problem was the "Ark of Truth". That was pretty much the most stupid invention the writers could'ave come up with. Lame. Plus it's been used before in other sci-fi shows.

7. No "borg-like" enemies. For that matter anything with a "collective consciousness" would be a major sci-fi cliche. I don't want the show to fit any formula. I'm looking forward to this show because the writers claim it is going to be more original and less of a spin-off.

desh
December 11th, 2008, 07:28 PM
I don't know if it has already been said, but:

NO vaguely medieval mountain hamlets with obnoxious "simple" people. This is the one constant cliche that Stargate writers go back to when they have run out of ideas.

Vary the team dynamic. The team should not follow the same Stargate structure or should depart from it. That is, the team should not be designed from the start as a team, but rather an association of unlikely people (a B-team, if you will) who have to become a team. For example, instead of another O'Neill clone, make the leader a Russian colonel as opposed to an American, an intelligence officer instead of special forces who may have been assigned as a political liaison in a surreptitious Russian bid to study the Destiny but is forced to take command. In any case, it should be someone who is not the ideal leader.

Replicator Fifth
December 11th, 2008, 07:40 PM
thats interesting but I don't think they'll do that.

Liam Kincaid
December 12th, 2008, 10:31 AM
No clip shows!

Dioxholster
December 12th, 2008, 01:02 PM
a big NO would be....young cast that are only there for sex appeal.
and pls when depicting a village wont it be realistic to show kids in it since villages do have kids.
oh wait one more: NO GAY CHARACTERS AND NO GAY SEX PLEASE!

Jack_Bauer
December 12th, 2008, 04:45 PM
Brad Wright

SylvreWolfe
December 12th, 2008, 07:51 PM
Brad Wright


Joe M
Martin Wood
Mertin Gero
Robert *Bobby C* Cooper

stargater1990
December 12th, 2008, 10:23 PM
1) life sucking aliens
2) mechanic spiders
3)any contact with earth untill season 22 where they want to end the series and they fly the destiny home.

Replicator Fifth
December 12th, 2008, 10:53 PM
Brad Wright
lol




Joe M
Martin Wood
Mertin Gero
Robert *Bobby C* Cooper
well thats not Fair... thats ALL the Stargate writers! :cameron:





a big NO would be....young cast that are only there for sex appeal.
and pls when depicting a village wont it be realistic to show kids in it since villages do have kids.
oh wait one more: NO GAY CHARACTERS AND NO GAY SEX PLEASE!
thats true... were there any gay characters in the Atlantis or SG-1?

AND NO SLASHERS!! those stories are disgusting and stupid there is nothing Romantic about pairing characters that aren't gay and writing VIVID sexual scenes, YOU READ ONE YOU READ THEM ALL!!!



No clip shows!
clip shows?

Krothic
December 12th, 2008, 10:57 PM
Don't think this has been said, NO EARTH LIKE WEAPONS!!!

Replicator Fifth
December 12th, 2008, 11:00 PM
Don't think this has been said, NO EARTH LIKE WEAPONS!!!

the team will have earth weapons.

Did you have a weapon design in mind for the aliens? :mckay:

Professor D.H.D. Puddlejumper
December 13th, 2008, 10:23 AM
clip shows?

Clip shows are those filled with flashbacks using scenes from past episodes, often to produce an episode on the cheap.:)

Replicator Fifth
December 13th, 2008, 10:29 AM
oh k. :)

thekillman
December 13th, 2008, 12:07 PM
why no gay characters. thats bad.

my big no:

bringing in gay characters for the sole purpose of bringing in a gay character. ie, 'by the way, he/she is/was gay" or, "everyone has gay characters, and now we thought, lets do one too".

my county is the most euthanesia and gay tolerating country of europe. here, EVERYONE is tolerated, if they behave. marrokan [sp?] dont really, so thats where the trouble comes from.
so we dont care about all gay stuff. if you're gay, then fine. just fall in line with everyone, dont act like a woman, and your life is going to be heaven. not saying that we just "kill" the gay aspect of people. we dont want to be bothered with it. we tolerate, cause it doesnt impact our lives negatively, which makes us tolerating. as opposed to america, where the strong religion makes them totally antigay marriage, cause its anti religious. here, its invoked as long as i can remember, there's no problem with it. that hans klok magician guy turns out to be gay. do i see riots in the streets? no.
"hey he's gay."
"well, its not like he will perform worse cause of it"
"you're right".
end of story.

so for america it might be a revolution, but i dont see it as special.

annother big NO:
suddenly someone turns out to be gay. i mean, in RL it happens. someone has a happy marriage, and turns out to be gay.

but for such a character. i mean, there would always be slight hints. not really paying attention to ladies, most friends being men. but its also explainable otherwise. if someone is gay, and judging the age of these people, they already came out for it, or are discovering it, then you will notice. it wont be OBVIOUS. but someone like radek. dont be amazed if hes the gay. why? i mean, have you EVER seen him working "close" to a woman? sheppard went offworld with boring scientist, cause one was hot. but do you ever see radek close to a woman? no.

thats the type of sign im talking about. sheppard's overreaction to woman can be seen as a gay thing, in the hopes to cover it up. but seeing as hes willing to go with BOTANISTS? hes the military guy. hes so totally not gay.

if that eli guy would be gay, then you will notice. small hints, then bigger ones. but seeing the comments of some guys on the writers shipping, then it prob will be a WOW moment

Quadhelix
December 13th, 2008, 05:57 PM
I assumed you'd done your homework on the distance calc's. What I meant was whether the ship was moving at all all this time. Of course not: I included the assumption that it would spend several years exploring each galaxy. Given the nature of Universe's plot, I would expect it to spend far less than that, but I wanted to be absolutely sure.

As for whether it paused somewhere to make a multi-millennium pit stop, I really have no way of telling.




5. No one universal baddie and a bunch of minor ones that appear in one episode and then suddenly are forgotten about. I want a collection of bad guys kinda've like the Covenant from the Halo franchise, except without the whole we have to kill humans because they don't worship the Forerunners.
Given the nature of Universe's plot of traveling from galaxy to galaxy, it would be hard to maintain a constant opponent, unless that opponent had access to Asgard-level hyperdrives.

prion
December 13th, 2008, 06:10 PM
My big No? NO characters from SGA or SG1 used to boost ratings or suck in former SG viewers. Let this show sink or swim on its own merits.

Starry Waters
December 13th, 2008, 07:40 PM
No pointless episodes like Identity created just to push a favored actor/actress on the audience over the regular cast.

Arturis
December 14th, 2008, 02:46 AM
Of course not: I included the assumption that it would spend several years exploring each galaxy. Given the nature of Universe's plot, I would expect it to spend far less than that, but I wanted to be absolutely sure.

As for whether it paused somewhere to make a multi-millennium pit stop, I really have no way of telling.


Given the nature of Universe's plot of traveling from galaxy to galaxy, it would be hard to maintain a constant opponent, unless that opponent had access to Asgard-level hyperdrives.

Even then NO. Especially if that enemy is one that they piss off in the first episode and is chasing them around for the rest of the series. Crais from Farscape, anyone?

wizz_kid_sid
December 14th, 2008, 01:33 PM
got another...

don't cahneg their uniforms every damn season like SGA! Consistancy is good! Like SG1, Camo offworld, Green or Blue overalls on base :)