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Itzan
November 22nd, 2008, 03:32 AM
Even if the device did work properly, turn on and off when he wanted it to, and cool the entire planet within a few degrees of his target temperature, the plan still would have failed. While it might work well in one part of the planet, at the same time cooling a different part of the planet would be Very bad.

Since this device was suppose to cool the planet, from the northern Hemisphere, June-September would be the best time to use it. However, at that time the southern Hemisphere would be having winter, so they would become much, much COLDER. It would merely take our hot summers away, and make our winters just that much worse. Sure those people living close to the equator would have it nice, but anyone else living in a place which actually had seasons would probably not enjoy it.

Now, this device might even run all year. This would really mess up the crop circles, and reduce our growing season by a few weeks, maybe even a month or two in some places. Turning it on and off would probably cause massive changes in the weather that could be horribly violent and bad. Not to mention it does nothing really to improve air quality, clean up hazardous waste or remove excess CO2 and similar gases.

It would Just replace 'Global Warming' with 'Global Cooling'.

Not to mention there must be something wrong with syphening our heat to another dimention. I mean, how will we get it back?

Infinite-Possibilities
November 22nd, 2008, 03:34 AM
Wasn't it only supposed to compensate for the general heating effect of the planet?

g.o.d
November 22nd, 2008, 03:36 AM
I say we need a nuclear winter to deal with a global warming!

rsanchez
November 22nd, 2008, 04:38 AM
Wasn't it only supposed to compensate for the general heating effect of the planet?
I think it was only supposed to cool the planet to the point that human-induced warming would be negated.

Also, why are the Atlantis people in love with space-time bridges? We have stargates, space bridges which under the right circumstances become time bridges and inter-dimensional bridges. I say if they want to try this again, they should hook the device up to a stargate that's connected to an uninhabited world or to a space gate.

Infinite-Possibilities
November 22nd, 2008, 02:53 PM
I think it was only supposed to cool the planet to the point that human-induced warming would be negated.

Also, why are the Atlantis people in love with space-time bridges? We have stargates, space bridges which under the right circumstances become time bridges and inter-dimensional bridges. I say if they want to try this again, they should hook the device up to a stargate that's connected to an uninhabited world or to a space gate.

This is what I meant. And now that you mention it, that is a decent idea in principle, though there aren't any known space gates, in the Milky Way, and they can't keep their stagate open constantly like they can for the space-time bridge for some reason.

Ncc-72452
November 22nd, 2008, 02:57 PM
Even if the device did work properly, turn on and off when he wanted it to, and cool the entire planet within a few degrees of his target temperature, the plan still would have failed. While it might work well in one part of the planet, at the same time cooling a different part of the planet would be Very bad.

Since this device was suppose to cool the planet, from the northern Hemisphere, June-September would be the best time to use it. However, at that time the southern Hemisphere would be having winter, so they would become much, much COLDER. It would merely take our hot summers away, and make our winters just that much worse. Sure those people living close to the equator would have it nice, but anyone else living in a place which actually had seasons would probably not enjoy it.

Now, this device might even run all year. This would really mess up the crop circles, and reduce our growing season by a few weeks, maybe even a month or two in some places. Turning it on and off would probably cause massive changes in the weather that could be horribly violent and bad. Not to mention it does nothing really to improve air quality, clean up hazardous waste or remove excess CO2 and similar gases.

It would Just replace 'Global Warming' with 'Global Cooling'.

Not to mention there must be something wrong with syphening our heat to another dimention. I mean, how will we get it back?

AHHHHH!!! We're back in the Seventies again!!!

airrick
November 23rd, 2008, 12:49 AM
Not to mention this would do nothing for the Ozone layer.. so it isnt a fix to the problem.. its like a bandaid on something that needs stitches..

jds1982
November 23rd, 2008, 04:24 AM
Not only was it a stupid idea, it's one that could have been accomplished with less "exotic" science.

knowles2
November 23rd, 2008, 05:03 AM
Not to mention this would do nothing for the Ozone layer.. so it isnt a fix to the problem.. its like a bandaid on something that needs stitches..

The ozone problem is actually repairing it self since the banning of CFCs gases. The hole has slowly been shrinking over the last few years. This shows humans can have a effect on the planet aka we cause the hole and we can fix problems that we cause in the first place if we try hard enough and are active enough in the area.


As to the plot device, it had numerous flaws, the biggest one being you need ZPM level power source to open one the bridge , wonder where tunney's got one of them from. It was the key plot device use to get McKay little sister to come to Atlantis to put her work into practical demonstration, something she thought would not happen for decades because of the power requirements. Let alone the facility shields, where the earth did they become in the public domain.

They should have mention someone giving them the technology to do both. The remaining Go'uld or something. I certainly would of inserted a scene with SG personnel taking the base apart.
A other plot hole if these guys were the best of the best the planet had to offer would not many of them be working knowingly or unknowingly on stargate project related technologies. I few mention of that would of be good.

rsanchez
November 23rd, 2008, 10:08 AM
This is what I meant. And now that you mention it, that is a decent idea in principle, though there aren't any known space gates, in the Milky Way, and they can't keep their stagate open constantly like they can for the space-time bridge for some reason.
If I recall correctly, a gate that has a constant source of energy can stay open for longer times than usual. The heat sink in the device absorbed large amounts of heat, which could be used to keep the gate open for a little while longer.

Tibit
November 23rd, 2008, 11:08 PM
I don't get why they didn't just convert the heat to electricity a la geothermal energy, or any energy really. If you could suck all the heat from around the planet into a big heat sink, wouldn't that just make free power for whatever you wanted? Or heck, transfer the power into a big laser and shoot the energy into space. Why go to the effort of making a bridge to an alternate freaking universe?

SerenaSerenity
November 24th, 2008, 10:51 AM
Well, in the episode, Rodney does say that Tunney saw something he wasn't supposed to see. Maybe he saw a design for the ZPM and built a primitive one of his own. As he said it was built to only power one bridge. *nod nod* But then again, I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. lol

g.o.d
November 24th, 2008, 11:11 AM
Well, in the episode, Rodney does say that Tunney saw something he wasn't supposed to see. Maybe he saw a design for the ZPM and built a primitive one of his own. As he said it was built to only power one bridge. *nod nod* But then again, I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. lol

you can't be serious...he can build ZPM or something similar, it sounds ridiculous even for Atlantis. ZPM is like a holy grail, this kind of technology is light years away from us. They can't build something similar on √Ątlantis so I highly doubt some scientist can build it on Earth without Alterans' technology.