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musicahumana
November 15th, 2008, 08:38 AM
I couldn't help but notice the similarity of John's plight to a well known scene from Star Wars. The loss of a hand...hanging by one arm from a precipice...I fully expected a puddle jumper to show up under John so that he could jump on to it, and then return to Atlantis to be fitted with a mechanical hand.

While this was going on, I said, "Oh goodness, John is playing Luke." It makes sense, given that the story came from John's brain. Star Wars is an important narrative in our generation's consciousness, and making those connections while dreaming (or hallucinating, in John's case) doesn't seem out of place.

But, since this was *John's* worst nightmare, then does that mean that John relates Kolya to his father somehow?

Kolya: [heavy, mechanical breathing] John, I am your father.

This is a HUGE stretch, but I thought it was a fun one. Feel free to fry me on this, if you like. At least the similarities to Star Wars were slightly humorous. :)

SerenaSerenity
November 15th, 2008, 09:01 AM
lol I actually saw those similarities too. So no, I'm not gonna fry ya for it. LOL I don't fry anyone anyhow. I just feels mean to me. And though it's a stretch, it is indeed a fun one.

FallenAngelII
November 15th, 2008, 09:26 AM
The only similarity was John losing a hand. Star Wars was not first to have a main character lose a hand.

TragicComedy
November 15th, 2008, 01:12 PM
Ahahahaha that's really funny and something I completely did not pick up on. I like it and it's an interesting theory about John subconsciously connecting Kolya with his father's behavior.

Matthew486DX
November 15th, 2008, 01:48 PM
Who knows, maybe there's a blooper?

"No John, I, am your father."

SerenaSerenity
November 15th, 2008, 03:55 PM
Who knows, maybe there's a blooper?

"No John, I, am your father."

LMAO! Even if there isn't, that image is in my head and it's funny. Yes, I am easily amused. =P LOL

lemonsandwraithohmy
November 15th, 2008, 05:48 PM
Wow. I didn't even make that connection. Star Wars....HA!

Hilarious!

Major V1125
November 15th, 2008, 07:52 PM
LMAO!!!!! XD that'll be friggin CRAZY! and at the same time....DISTURBING lmao!

SoulReaver
November 15th, 2008, 07:54 PM
the comparison wasn't that convincing (Kolya didn't have asthma)

Alteran of Atlantis
November 15th, 2008, 08:41 PM
I couldn't help but notice the similarity of John's plight to a well known scene from Star Wars. The loss of a hand...hanging by one arm from a precipice...I fully expected a puddle jumper to show up under John so that he could jump on to it, and then return to Atlantis to be fitted with a mechanical hand.

While this was going on, I said, "Oh goodness, John is playing Luke." It makes sense, given that the story came from John's brain. Star Wars is an important narrative in our generation's consciousness, and making those connections while dreaming (or hallucinating, in John's case) doesn't seem out of place.

But, since this was *John's* worst nightmare, then does that mean that John relates Kolya to his father somehow?

Kolya: [heavy, mechanical breathing] John, I am your father.

This is a HUGE stretch, but I thought it was a fun one. Feel free to fry me on this, if you like. At least the similarities to Star Wars were slightly humorous. :)

:lol: There might be a reference in there. I never noticed that! :P

nx01a
November 15th, 2008, 08:59 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of Freudian castration complex...

thedrumm3rguy
November 15th, 2008, 09:55 PM
lol glad i wasn't the only one who saw the star wars connections!

johns wardrobe also looked very luke-like when he was with those space hippies in the time dilation field :D

Coaster
November 16th, 2008, 06:36 AM
Yes! I thought this too! :D

wolverine_nl
November 16th, 2008, 06:42 AM
They do rip allot from excisting scifi things, so it could be that it was a little thing that had that Star Wars moment. Maybe it was or wasnt intentional.

Lahela
November 16th, 2008, 11:54 AM
My 10yo put on his best Darth Vader voice and said "Yes John, I am your father" as soon as it happened... kind of lightened the mood ;)

Mitchell82
November 16th, 2008, 12:26 PM
I couldn't help but notice the similarity of John's plight to a well known scene from Star Wars. The loss of a hand...hanging by one arm from a precipice...I fully expected a puddle jumper to show up under John so that he could jump on to it, and then return to Atlantis to be fitted with a mechanical hand.

While this was going on, I said, "Oh goodness, John is playing Luke." It makes sense, given that the story came from John's brain. Star Wars is an important narrative in our generation's consciousness, and making those connections while dreaming (or hallucinating, in John's case) doesn't seem out of place.

But, since this was *John's* worst nightmare, then does that mean that John relates Kolya to his father somehow?

Kolya: [heavy, mechanical breathing] John, I am your father.

This is a HUGE stretch, but I thought it was a fun one. Feel free to fry me on this, if you like. At least the similarities to Star Wars were slightly humorous. :)
:lol: I didn't think of that but the only similarity is the loosing of the hand nothing more.

SerenaSerenity
November 16th, 2008, 02:50 PM
:lol: I didn't think of that but the only similarity is the loosing of the hand nothing more.

Well, there was the loosing of the hand, then the hanging from the cliff. Luke lost his hand and after that, was hanging from.... something. It's been far to long since I've seen that movie. LOL But I do remember that scene. I also almost expected a ship to come up and pick him up too. Though I doubted one actually would, but the thought was funny. lol

Fandom Addict
November 18th, 2008, 12:55 PM
The only similarity was John losing a hand. Star Wars was not first to have a main character lose a hand.

No, but it's probably one of the most well known.

perkin127
November 18th, 2008, 02:48 PM
lol i suppose if it was coming from his subconscious it kinda makes sense, maybe john always wanted to be luke skywalker when he was a kid lol

Rac80
November 19th, 2008, 06:32 PM
since it was obvious in Outcast that John was estranged from his entire family prior to his father's death..... I got the connection as well. I am sad to admit I didn't get the Star wars connection, though.....darn psych degree gets in the way. :P

kayley
November 20th, 2008, 04:14 AM
Kolya: [heavy, mechanical breathing] John, I am your father.


I actually said that to my partner when we were watching that scene.

SGAtlantisP60
November 20th, 2008, 04:36 AM
Lol

Arga
November 23rd, 2008, 05:04 AM
and "Use your other hand..." seems like : "Use the Force..."

McgillionFan
November 25th, 2008, 03:55 PM
LOL i never relized that. hahaahaha

That would be funny to see. :D

Anon
November 25th, 2008, 05:30 PM
just saw that, wow