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Niddle
November 6th, 2008, 08:53 AM
Has anything been said about when the recut SG1 series opener will be released?

I don't visit very often, and this time around can't find anything about it. :(

jenks
November 6th, 2008, 09:55 AM
Originally it sounded like it would be out around Christmas time, now it looks like it will probably be out some time inbetween Atlantis' finale and the premier of Stargate: Universe.

DeRoest
November 6th, 2008, 10:46 AM
or did they just change their mind entirely? I think the said this before Atlantis was cancelled a Atlantis movie was announced, maybe they canned COTG. Can anyone prove me wrong?:(

editorguy
November 6th, 2008, 10:57 AM
or did they just change their mind entirely? I think the said this before Atlantis was cancelled a Atlantis movie was announced, maybe they canned COTG. Can anyone prove me wrong?:(

It is definitely coming out, but Im not sure when. We shot an interview with Brad Wright regarding this and from what I hear, it's not a simple spit and polish clean up.

It's a brand new transfer, brand new viz effects, original Joel Goldsmith music, and re-cut scenes, including some stuff that was removed due to technical problems that weren't solvable 11 years ago.

Should be decent.

Angela V
November 11th, 2008, 05:39 PM
It is definitely coming out, but Im not sure when. We shot an interview with Brad Wright regarding this and from what I hear, it's not a simple spit and polish clean up.

It's a brand new transfer, brand new viz effects, original Joel Goldsmith music, and re-cut scenes, including some stuff that was removed due to technical problems that weren't solvable 11 years ago.

Should be decent.

And an episode my 8 year old son could probably watch without me fastforwarding through full frontal um... you know. He hasn't watched it since he was 6 but I remember him protesting. Though this was a lot less embarrassing when I first got the COTG on VHS. I had not seen from season 1-4, did not know about that um... spot in the movie. I had my nephew age 6 over (son was taking a nap). I dived so fast for the remote and was so embarrassed! I had watched season 5 and was so not prepared for!

amconway
November 12th, 2008, 12:51 AM
I'm really looking forward to this. It was a great episode with an embarassingly gratuitous nude scene plopped in for no other reason than that showtime demanded it. I don't really see the need to improve the effects, but, heh, it's not going to hurt anything, and if it makes them happy... It will be interesting to see what they do with the recut. I'm hoping that some new footage that didn't make it's way into the TV version might reappear. I'm also curious to see if that awful line of Carter's about parts on the inside rather than on the outside will survive the re-edit. ;) I don't know how she said that with a straight face.

jenks
November 12th, 2008, 09:01 AM
I wouldn't call the nude scene embarrassingly gratuitous, in fact it didn't feel that way at all, the writers actually managed to make it work really well.

VSS
November 12th, 2008, 11:36 AM
I'm really looking forward to this. It was a great episode with an embarassingly gratuitous nude scene plopped in for no other reason than that showtime demanded it. I don't really see the need to improve the effects, but, heh, it's not going to hurt anything, and if it makes them happy... It will be interesting to see what they do with the recut. I'm hoping that some new footage that didn't make it's way into the TV version might reappear. I'm also curious to see if that awful line of Carter's about parts on the inside rather than on the outside will survive the re-edit. ;) I don't know how she said that with a straight face.

That line was so bad it's become a classic. ;)
And if they took it out, they'd have to cut lines from Moebius, too.

I do agree with you about the nude scene, though. I think the goa'uld could tell if its potential host's body was hot enough with a bikini on her. They could have put a lot of sequins and sparkles on it and made it believable as goa'uld attire, IMHO.

leiasky
November 12th, 2008, 03:00 PM
I actually didn't see anything horribly wrong with Carter's line so I hope they keep it in. Her character progression from that moment through the end of the series is quite remarkable.

Same with the nude scene. It didn't feel gratuitous to me at all.

Elite Anubis Guard
November 15th, 2008, 03:51 AM
PW: Do you know they're re shooting that two-part episode, "Children of The Gods?"

GW: Did Brad contact you?

PW: Yes, I've been into the studio to do some voice-over work to clean it up. I think pretty much everyone who was in it is doing that. They have said the finished product is going to be a lot crisper, a lost cleaner, a lot clearer and losing one of those pieces of scenes we're talking about. So, it might hold up as a DVD movie

GW: Right. Yeah, I know Fox is very interested. They're also going to trim a lot, according to Brad. They said a lot of dialogue was awkward

http://www.gateworld.net/interviews/god_of_night.shtml

amconway
November 15th, 2008, 08:27 AM
The idea of fox having a say in the editing is pretty nervous-making, but I guess as long as the 'Director's Cut' goes out on DVD.... I wonder how tha addinf dialogue work?

VSS
November 15th, 2008, 08:46 AM
PW: Do you know they're re shooting that two-part episode, "Children of The Gods?"

GW: Did Brad contact you?

PW: Yes, I've been into the studio to do some voice-over work to clean it up. I think pretty much everyone who was in it is doing that. They have said the finished product is going to be a lot crisper, a lost cleaner, a lot clearer and losing one of those pieces of scenes we're talking about. So, it might hold up as a DVD movie

GW: Right. Yeah, I know Fox is very interested. They're also going to trim a lot, according to Brad. They said a lot of dialogue was awkward

http://www.gateworld.net/interviews/god_of_night.shtml

No! Not Carter's line! You know that's what he's talking about.;)



The idea of fox having a say in the editing is pretty nervous-making, but I guess as long as the 'Director's Cut' goes out on DVD.... I wonder how tha addinf dialogue work?

I agree, but can someone explain to me what Fox has to do with this in the first place?

Pharaoh Atem
November 15th, 2008, 09:13 AM
i'm looking forward to this :D

amconway
November 15th, 2008, 09:35 AM
No! Not Carter's line! You know that's what he's talking about.
No, I guess I don't... The nude scene will already have been cut, so that's not an issue - it's one of the primary reasons for doing this in the first place. I can't think of what else Fox would want cut that would make it into the edited version. What are you thinking that it would be?


I agree, but can someone explain to me what Fox has to do with this in the first place?
Sounds like Scifi isn't interested. That really surprises me.

VSS
November 15th, 2008, 09:42 AM
No, I guess I don't... The nude scene will already have been cut, so that's not an issue - it's one of the primary reasons for doing this in the first place. I can't think of what else Fox would want cut that would make it into the edited version. What are you thinking that it would be?


Sounds like Scifi isn't interested. That really surprises me.

Just that PW said they were cutting awkward dialogue. That line of Carter's is pretty awkward. But actually, I'm joking.;)

I'm not surprised by SciFi. They cancelled SG-1, after all. They want new, shiny stuff now.

amconway
November 15th, 2008, 09:58 AM
I'm not surprised by SciFi. They cancelled SG-1, after all. They want new, shiny stuff now.
Well,, you're right about that. It seems odd that they would show Ark of Truth and Continuum, but not the recut COTG, though...

jenks
November 15th, 2008, 11:34 AM
Sounds like Scifi isn't interested. That really surprises me.

It's nothing to do with TV, I'm pretty sure Fox is the distributor.

VSS
November 15th, 2008, 11:46 AM
It's nothing to do with TV, I'm pretty sure Fox is the distributor.

Why would a distributor get any say in what's produced? I really don't know, I'm terribly uneducated about these things.

Pharaoh Atem
November 15th, 2008, 12:47 PM
It's nothing to do with TV, I'm pretty sure Fox is the distributor.

yup and in the peter willwims interview gw's david confirmed that fox is very interested in this project

jenks
November 15th, 2008, 12:55 PM
Why would a distributor get any say in what's produced? I really don't know, I'm terribly uneducated about these things.

I'm not exactly sure how it works to be honest, but I know when Babylon A.D. was released and Fox were the distributor they cut loads of material out of it, and in the end it didn't even make sense. I don't know why they do it, or even why they have the power to, I suppose it'll be some sort of clause in the contract or something...

VSS
November 15th, 2008, 01:41 PM
I'm not exactly sure how it works to be honest, but I know when Babylon A.D. was released and Fox were the distributor they cut loads of material out of it, and in the end it didn't even make sense. I don't know why they do it, or even why they have the power to, I suppose it'll be some sort of clause in the contract or something...

You know what they say about too many cooks...;)

It's amazing there is anything worth watching, ever. I feel like the entire entertainment industry just checks with their focus groups and aims for their target demographics and ignores anything that might make for memorable entertainment.

leiasky
November 15th, 2008, 04:40 PM
Ugh. Why the heck does Fox have a say in anything regarding this property? Fox has proven in the past it doesn't know how to handle this genre. Even if they're distributing it, that wouldn't give them any say in how its cut and edited. Even if they've paid a licensing fee to air it when its done wouldn't give them the right to 'advise' on how it should be edited.

Would be a good decision to sell Fox the rights to air it, though, because those who don't have cable to get sci-fi do get FOX and it would get good airtime and probably breathe more life into the franchise.

Elite Anubis Guard
November 16th, 2008, 02:06 PM
I agree, but can someone explain to me what Fox has to do with this in the first place?

They distribute DVDs.

VSS
November 16th, 2008, 02:12 PM
They distribute DVDs.

Okay, back to my other question. Why would a distributor get any say in what's produced? :)

Elite Anubis Guard
November 16th, 2008, 02:34 PM
Because it's a DVD they're distributing and a "re-packaging" they're organizing.

knowles2
November 17th, 2008, 03:05 PM
Just wondering has anyone got details of what was cut from Babylon AD. It just that film ended half way through with not real ending to what was happening.

jenks
November 17th, 2008, 03:23 PM
Just wondering has anyone got details of what was cut from Babylon AD. It just that film ended half way through with not real ending to what was happening.

The region 2 version was supposed to be full length with the 20 minutes that Fox cut included, but I've just checked on Amazon and it's the same as the US version.

VSS
November 17th, 2008, 04:39 PM
Because it's a DVD they're distributing and a "re-packaging" they're organizing.

Ah. A little more creative control than, say, a beer distributorship.:)

knowles2
November 18th, 2008, 01:02 AM
The region 2 version was supposed to be full length with the 20 minutes that Fox cut included, but I've just checked on Amazon and it's the same as the US version.

Shame because it did have protential to be a good movie. Some how I got the feeling it was the anti religion and how science can be used to fake miracles that was cut, that after all was the central theme in the movie.

jenks
November 18th, 2008, 09:41 AM
Shame because it did have protential to be a good movie. Some how I got the feeling it was the anti religion and how science can be used to fake miracles that was cut, that after all was the central theme in the movie.

Considering who was doing the editing, that wouldn't surprise me.

Ugly Pig
November 26th, 2008, 03:57 PM
Fox has proven in the past it doesn't know how to handle this genre. Even if they're distributing it, that wouldn't give them any say in how its cut and edited.

Wait - who's saying Fox is actually doing this? Looks to me like PW's quote has been misinterpreted in this thread.

The way I read it, this -

Yeah, I know Fox is very interested.

...has nothing to do with this:


They're also going to trim a lot, according to Brad. They said a lot of dialogue was awkward

The "they" PW is referring to here is probably BW and co. Remember, Wright already said they were going to cut stuff out so this isn't something we didn't already know.