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toby1kanobi
November 6th, 2008, 08:01 AM
How has it survived so long? if as some people have speculated it is of an older construction to atlantis then how can it have survived? even atlentis at full power cannot survive in space for any way near the kind of time that the destiny has, it must have shields or it would have been destroyed br radiation or rogue asteroids, i must have weapons. drones run out, so do zpm's so how is it still functional (is it powered by a working version of project acturis and has it got beam beapons like the ori rather than drones) DISCUSS, HAVE FUN

Slyke
November 6th, 2008, 08:10 AM
It did because the writers said it did.

pwells
November 6th, 2008, 08:51 AM
It uses solar/radiation panels that absorb and convert energy as it travels through space. :)

HunGripen
November 6th, 2008, 08:57 AM
Well as I know the writers themselves stated that the Destiny will be older(thousand or million years?) than Atlantis. As we can see it on the concept arts, it's design is similar to the Ancient technologies in SG-1(especially in The Ark of Truth).

Because it's much older than Atlantis I don't think it will have drone weapons or ZPMs, especially not the Power Generator from Project Arcturus(the Ancients hadn't been able to use that machine safely).

shipoopi512
November 6th, 2008, 09:10 AM
The idea was to seed stargate's throughout to the end of the universe. If they had stagates and interstellar travel, they could easily have shields to protect the ship, and they might ahve incorporated cloaking technology just in case it got attacked. It wouldn't need weapons, it has no people and is a scout ship.
As for power, the Ancients knew it would take a lot of power to get it to the "end" of the universe, so they would have put a lot of power into it, probably a self-renewing power source like incredibly powerful solar panels to build energy from the starts that it would pass.

xandder
November 6th, 2008, 11:39 AM
what you have to remember is that this ship was built by the Altera, and while they are related to the ancients, the Altera exisited millions and millions of years ago, just the same with humans and cave men. i wouldn't be surprised if the ship has a power source like the other carter from the road not taken had designed, which was practically limitless. And i wouldn't get to hung up on the fact that if it wasn't show in atlantis then it couldn't be on the destiny, becuase the way i look at it, the 'lanteans' were a bunch of retards that couldn't do anything right!. Atlantis was original built by the Altera/anceints, the lanteans came later, they must of been the product of too much inbreeding because they seriously lack in the smarts department compared to the Altera/Ancients, seriously, they have never been able to do anything properly.
The ancient head sucker things were also created by the ancients before they left for the pegasus galaxy, and they has been more use to us then five years of the lantean database, seems to me that the lanteans must of gone through some sort of 'dark age' and lost mass amounts of knowledge somehow, thats the only conclusion i can come up with lol.

anyway back on point, I at all wouldn't be surprised to see even more advanced tech on the destiny (within reason of course) i would still expect to see ring transporters on board, because we can see that they progressed to the closet things seen in Atlantis, but power source wise, some sort of renewable or limitless( in terms of simpler arcturus design/ 'the road not taken') power source would be acceptable, after all this was made and designed pretty much after the Altera first came to the milky way, it probably seeded the milky way gate system, aswell as the pegasus system. Maybe even a energy weapon or 2, or maybe the first design of the drone weapons, but completely energy based, because the drones are a mixture of projectile and energy, so maybe a completely energy based drone, but which is kinda less effective of course, or maybe no weapons at all, after all the Altera were completely pacisfist (sp?) so maybe they just had a cloak like the Nox, that way the new team gets to fit asgard beam weapons on the ship, because the ship is bound to have some sort of matter convertor onboard.

Mclean
November 6th, 2008, 02:10 PM
The Ancients would have guessed that this mission/task of seeding more galaxies with Stargates was going to be a very long one so I'm sure they would have realised that a LOT of power was going to be required. Also they had been going into space for thousands of years so I'm sure they will be able to shield it from radiation and they would have calculated the requirements needed to spend that length of time in space.

toby1kanobi
November 6th, 2008, 02:17 PM
what you have to remember is that this ship was built by the Altera, and while they are related to the ancients, the Altera exisited millions and millions of years ago, just the same with humans and cave men. i wouldn't be surprised if the ship has a power source like the other carter from the road not taken had designed, which was practically limitless. And i wouldn't get to hung up on the fact that if it wasn't show in atlantis then it couldn't be on the destiny, becuase the way i look at it, the 'lanteans' were a bunch of retards that couldn't do anything right!. Atlantis was original built by the Altera/anceints, the lanteans came later, they must of been the product of too much inbreeding because they seriously lack in the smarts department compared to the Altera/Ancients, seriously, they have never been able to do anything properly.
The ancient head sucker things were also created by the ancients before they left for the pegasus galaxy, and they has been more use to us then five years of the lantean database, seems to me that the lanteans must of gone through some sort of 'dark age' and lost mass amounts of knowledge somehow, thats the only conclusion i can come up with lol.

anyway back on point, I at all wouldn't be surprised to see even more advanced tech on the destiny (within reason of course) i would still expect to see ring transporters on board, because we can see that they progressed to the closet things seen in Atlantis, but power source wise, some sort of renewable or limitless( in terms of simpler arcturus design/ 'the road not taken') power source would be acceptable, after all this was made and designed pretty much after the Altera first came to the milky way, it probably seeded the milky way gate system, aswell as the pegasus system. Maybe even a energy weapon or 2, or maybe the first design of the drone weapons, but completely energy based, because the drones are a mixture of projectile and energy, so maybe a completely energy based drone, but which is kinda less effective of course, or maybe no weapons at all, after all the Altera were completely pacisfist (sp?) so maybe they just had a cloak like the Nox, that way the new team gets to fit asgard beam weapons on the ship, because the ship is bound to have some sort of matter convertor onboard.


i have been trying to make this ecact point in other parts of the forum, i believe that just cos it looks old dus'nt meen that it is less advanced than atlantis. as many have said the destiny was built at the height of there civilation whereas atlantis was built in the decline, so i thing it very plausable that the destimy may have tech that was lost to the ancients millenia before the construxtion of atlantis, that may explain the speculation (mostly mine) that a version of the project arcturus generator may be onboard the destiny and the version in the episode trinity may have been an attempt to rediscover the tech. i agree with you that the lanteans were idiots especialy when compared to the minds that would have created the knowledge repositories and even the weapon at dakara. if our theorys of the tech onboard the destiny are right or even close it promices to be one hell of a show. and i am convinced that the destiny has advanced weapons systems, why get out of the way of a meteor or comet, or risk it damaging the shields inapropriatly when it could just blast it out of the way

Skate Zilla
November 6th, 2008, 02:31 PM
Its Ori Powered...


Hallowed Are the Ori
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BloodNight
November 6th, 2008, 03:25 PM
Ancients are the same as lantians

toby1kanobi
November 7th, 2008, 11:14 AM
Ancients are the same as lantians

not quite, ancients are asended alterans/lanteans, lanteans merly is a destinction of wheresomebody is from, just like in the uk where we have Mancunians from Manchester, Scousers from Liverpool ect. however the people of atlantis were known to be very proud and concieted or to put it another way smug, they often attempted projects far beyond there capabilities (pegasus replicatore, project arturus, the wraith. need i say more) they know than something may go wrong but tried anyway, hence idiots

toby1kanobi
November 7th, 2008, 11:18 AM
i also think there will be a 'caretaker' in stasis onboard the destiny who i think will join the team as a science officer type (hopefully alongside Mckay)

s09119
November 7th, 2008, 11:35 AM
not quite, ancients are asended alterans/lanteans, lanteans merly is a destinction of wheresomebody is from, just like in the uk where we have Mancunians from Manchester, Scousers from Liverpool ect. however the people of atlantis were known to be very proud and concieted or to put it another way smug, they often attempted projects far beyond there capabilities (pegasus replicatore, project arturus, the wraith. need i say more) they know than something may go wrong but tried anyway, hence idiots

For god's sake not this again...

An "Ancient" is what the peoples of the Milky Way call a member of the Alteran race, because they were a very ancient and powerful race that helped shape the galaxy. A "Lantean" or "Ancestor" is what the peoples of Pegasus call an Ancient, the former because of their capital (the planet Lantea and the city Atlantis), and the latter because they are thought to be the ancestors of those living today.

They are all the same species, though, only with different names (think "Colonials" becoming "Americans" at the end of the American Revolutionary War).

xandder
November 7th, 2008, 01:39 PM
For god's sake not this again...

An "Ancient" is what the peoples of the Milky Way call a member of the Alteran race, because they were a very ancient and powerful race that helped shape the galaxy. A "Lantean" or "Ancestor" is what the peoples of Pegasus call an Ancient, the former because of their capital (the planet Lantea and the city Atlantis), and the latter because they are thought to be the ancestors of those living today.

They are all the same species, though, only with different names (think "Colonials" becoming "Americans" at the end of the American Revolutionary War).


yea they might be the same species but that doesn't mean anything, how else can you justify the fact that the lanteans are a bunch of 'retards' while the ancients/altera were practically all knowing, they acheived everything that they set out to, unlike the lanteans.
just because they are the 'same' species doesn't mean that they are all the same, knowledge wise, take the english/americans and then look at the japanese, we are the same species but the japanese are creating things way more advanced than us, in the same time period (although by advanced im not talking space ships lol but look at mobile phones for instance, the latest model we have (english/american) is pretty dated by comparison to the japanese)

the ancient time goes ALTERA- ANCIENT- LANTEAN with millions of years seperating them all, so its entirely resonably to believe that technology was lost or that the lanteans went through some kind of 'dark age' or why else would they be so stupid compared to the altera/ancient.

people might argue the fact that the 'lanteans' came before the 'ancients' due to the fact that in 'before i sleep' wier tells the lantean council that humans call them the ancients, to which the council seems surprised, like they have never heard that before. but that was a mistake, because when the first head sucker thing that SG1 was found, the writing on the floor stated that it was built by the ancients, and it is the same design as Altera design objects, like the long space communicater thing in season 9 of SG1.

And yes while they are all essentially the 'same' species, its easier to think of 'ancients' and the 'Lanteans' as 'sub' species of the Altera, just on a different 'evolutionary' path, which just happened to end in the same place. it has been stated numerous time that some 'Ancients' accended before the others went to the pegasus galaxy, while the majority of the 'lanteans' accended only after they returned to earth. we know this because Oma accended and from what we know she never went to the pegasus galaxy, meaning that she accended before the others left for pegasus. Thats like 5 million+ years between them, so taking that as an example, the 'ancients' must of been more advanced than the 'lanteans' because they achieved accension first. This must mean that a huge part of the evolution of the Altera line went into resession because people usually get more advanced as time goes on, but this isn't the case with the ancients>lanteans.

s09119
November 7th, 2008, 03:03 PM
yea they might be the same species but that doesn't mean anything, how else can you justify the fact that the lanteans are a bunch of 'retards' while the ancients/altera were practically all knowing, they acheived everything that they set out to, unlike the lanteans.
just because they are the 'same' species doesn't mean that they are all the same, knowledge wise, take the english/americans and then look at the japanese, we are the same species but the japanese are creating things way more advanced than us, in the same time period (although by advanced im not talking space ships lol but look at mobile phones for instance, the latest model we have (english/american) is pretty dated by comparison to the japanese)

the ancient time goes ALTERA- ANCIENT- LANTEAN with millions of years seperating them all, so its entirely resonably to believe that technology was lost or that the lanteans went through some kind of 'dark age' or why else would they be so stupid compared to the altera/ancient.

people might argue the fact that the 'lanteans' came before the 'ancients' due to the fact that in 'before i sleep' wier tells the lantean council that humans call them the ancients, to which the council seems surprised, like they have never heard that before. but that was a mistake, because when the first head sucker thing that SG1 was found, the writing on the floor stated that it was built by the ancients, and it is the same design as Altera design objects, like the long space communicater thing in season 9 of SG1.

And yes while they are all essentially the 'same' species, its easier to think of 'ancients' and the 'Lanteans' as 'sub' species of the Altera, just on a different 'evolutionary' path, which just happened to end in the same place. it has been stated numerous time that some 'Ancients' accended before the others went to the pegasus galaxy, while the majority of the 'lanteans' accended only after they returned to earth. we know this because Oma accended and from what we know she never went to the pegasus galaxy, meaning that she accended before the others left for pegasus. Thats like 5 million+ years between them, so taking that as an example, the 'ancients' must of been more advanced than the 'lanteans' because they achieved accension first. This must mean that a huge part of the evolution of the Altera line went into resession because people usually get more advanced as time goes on, but this isn't the case with the ancients>lanteans.

1. The Lanteans are depicted as inept to make the humans look more cunning and clever. It's a terrible plot device and most fans take offense at it, but, if you want to go with the reality of the show, the Lanteans are just as advanced and intelligent as other sects of Alterans.

2. The whole naming thing was retconned over the years, with the Alterans becoming known as "Ancients" after they left for Pegasus, not before as is suggested in "The Fifth Race."

3. Oma could easily have been an Ancient that happened to discover ascension early, or one that ascended to escape the Plague. That doesn't mean she's a different race altogether or more intelligent.

felixtcat
November 7th, 2008, 11:59 PM
i dont think we have even seen the true Gate builders reading all the talk of sub species ect, who knows the alteran/ori may just be yet a later level or evolution That WE have seen. I hope in the show we see Logs videos from the original gate designers from before the 1st set of gates where actualy seeded and the reason for the Chevron system, hell even Logs of the creation of the 1st 2 gates and testing ect, because this is the seeder ships sistership. and not once have we ever seen a gate built from scratch.. opps i am wrong Orlin made one from Ebay parts.. would love to see that parts list. thats proves earth based parts can create a workhole naquita wasnt used.. we have seen the tech from many cultures, ect who says the Alterans/ori/atlantians ect where truely the gate builders. for all we know they scaveneged the tech from say the Named but unseen "furlings" afterall the original movie with Ra made us think the Gauld was the creaters being based on eqyptian culture.
Ori/anchients may also be like SGA expidition Finding Tech leaning how to use it and learning from mistakes as the Finders of the tech ect.. there is a whole race that we know nothing about namely the furlings, the 5th race may be Humans but who knows Maybe it means 5th race to achieve Awareness of the technology thats there. the 4 races , nox, asgard,achients, and furlings are kinda False now because the alterans/ori heck even the gauld, and wraith in away more powerful than humans until 12 yrs ago lol
so the whole 4 race thing from the 5th race seems kinda incorect. could be humans are the 5th race to find out whats really in kfcs 11 herbs and spices for all we know.

I am thinking maybe the Destany MIGHT Actualy be of furling design afterall maybe furlings are the true Anchients that went away to let its children grow on thier own, just as the Asgards left to let the Humans to grow after they thought they could no longer fix thier problem. then we meet the evil "Asguards" in biosuits so Who know where we are going

NoobTau'ri
November 8th, 2008, 07:11 AM
even atlentis at full power cannot survive in space for any way near the kind of time that the destiny has

Sure it can. It can't keep the shields up for millions of years because there is not enough power to sustain it, but can Atlantis survive in space for millions of years? Sure. Unless it is sucked by a black hole, star or gets destroyed while crossing an asteroid belt, it will endure intact for millions of years in space.

Dragon_Heart
November 8th, 2008, 08:04 AM
are you serious? do you even watch stargate -.-

lanteans, anciens, alterans....all the same race. the ship is said to have been built at the ancients height of their civilisation, which strongly suggests a very advanced ship. after all, it might not be JUST a scout ship, but a representation of who the alterans are.
another person said that the ancients are pacifist. not so. they are peaceful, not pacifist. pacifists are a type of people who refuse to fight altogether, the lanteans, however, had an intergalactic war.

kymeric
November 8th, 2008, 09:27 AM
Ancient tech has an insanely long shelf life. If its anything like the gateseeding ship it could repair itsself and maintain its systems.

jollyrogue
November 8th, 2008, 10:43 AM
I don't want to read everyone's detailed posts :/ I haven't seen anywhere myself that says the destiny is in Space. I would have thought it would be in an underground hanger like the ship from SGA "Inferno" and then during the pilot when they step onto the ship we will see umbilical type chords detach and they will take off :) , its just how i picture it would happen.

\/ the underground hanger in Inferno \/
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r212/gareth1406/underhanger.jpg

Ltcolshepjumper
November 8th, 2008, 02:15 PM
Yeah, I don't think the Destiny was ever used by the Alterans. It's either in a hangar or somewhere sitting in space. Most likely a hangar, as that's where it would be safe. The Lantean stupidity is a big plothole, designed to keep the team from becoming too powerful (ironic as they now have the multi-purpose Asgard beam weapons). Oh, and the Stargates were made by the Ancients. AoT cements that.

Tiberius Avitus
November 8th, 2008, 09:42 PM
First, the many names of the Ancients:

Name- Definition
Alterans "From Latin Altera for the Other(s)"

Relation to Stargate:
The Ascended Ancients were frequently referred to as the others. We later learned that the Ancients called themselves the Alterans long, long ago.

Name- Defintion
Ancients "people who lived in times long past" -princeton.edu

Relation to Stargate:
People living in the Milky way galaxy frequently refer to the Ancients as the Ancients. This is probably because the Ancients lived in the Milky way long before and thus fit the definition of "people who lived in times long past."

Name- Definition
Lanteans "People who are from Lantea."

Relation to Stargate
As has been stated Lanteans is similar in meaning to Italians, Germans, Americans etc... it states a nationality or an affiliation. Lantea is the planet Atlantis was on.

Name- Definition
Anquietas "Ancestors"

Relation to Stargate
The Anquietas is first mentioned by the Ancient in "Sanctuary." Teyla and other Pegasus Galaxy humans frequently refer to the Ancients as "The Ancestors."

Name- Definition
The Others "The Ascended Ancients"

Relation to Stargate
The Ascended Ancients such as Oma Desala and Morgan La Fey frequently refer to their fellow ascended Ancients as "The Others."

Now as for the Ancients becoming less intelligent. We know that some of them fled the Milky way on Atlantis for the Pegasus Galaxy and some of them ascended. (To escape the plague that Ayiana had in the episode "Frozen") Those that ascended were later encountered by SG-1 and we know them as "The Others." Maybe many of the most intelligent and philosophical of the Ancients ascended while some fled on Atlantis.

So it is at least possible that the Ancients became less-intelligent because many of the Ancients that had helped make them a great civilization (that did not make as many mistakes as the Lanteans) ascended and were never in the Pegasus Galaxy.

But we do see advances in Ancient technology when comparing the older Milky way galaxy technology to the newer Pegasus Galaxy technology. One of the most noticeable is the Gate. The newer Pegasus Galaxy gates to not require a large moving section. The Pegasus Galaxy also has had many technologies like the Asurans, Project Arcturus and the Attero device that did not go as well as could be hoped. But they were still technological advancements. Also one type of time-travel technology was invented by Janus who lived in the Pegasus Galaxy on Atlantis. (Yes, I know the Ancients also had a time Travel device in the Milky way Galaxy that was seen in "Window of Opprotunity", the one where O'neill and Teal'c are trapped living the same day over and over.)

It is important to note however that the Ancient Repositories of Knowledge are not in the Pegasus Galaxy. This seems odd as it would have really helped them in their war with the wraith if they had scientists with all the knowledge of the Ancients at their disposal. Perhaps they were unable to bring one of these devices with them to the Pegasus Galaxy because they either lost them or were in a rush to escape the plague and did not have time to bring one. Or that these devices are much larger then we think. After all we have only seen them attached to a wall. There could be something behind the wall. Maybe it would have been difficult to fit one onto Atlantis.

If they were not able to bring this knowledge with them it would probably have been a serious setback to the Ancients in terms of their advancement. Thor mentioned in "New Order Part II" that they had been studying the Ancient Knowledge for years and had barely scratched the surface. Suggesting that the Ancient Knowledge database was massive. Losing such a large amount of information coupled with the ascension of many of their population, probably did make the Ancients not be able to advance as far as they could have. But it did not make the Ancients stupid, it was just a setback, and they were still very advanced and continued to make more advancements.

Tiberius Avitus
November 8th, 2008, 11:15 PM
Accidentally posted twice/
Edited it to fix it.

AscendedAsgard
November 9th, 2008, 05:02 AM
I dunno if somebody though of this, but what if the ship is powered by ascended ancients? Somewhat familiar to how the ori ships are powered?

jollyrogue
November 9th, 2008, 05:30 AM
But the ancients wouldn't have been ascended at the time would they? if i remember the reason they abandoned the destiny project was to follow the path to ascension.

AscendedAsgard
November 9th, 2008, 06:13 AM
But the ancients wouldn't have been ascended at the time would they? if i remember the reason they abandoned the destiny project was to follow the path to ascension.

So true, but the fact still remains that they probably could power it even if they ascended after they built it. But still i highly doubt it.

xandder
November 9th, 2008, 06:41 AM
First, the many names of the Ancients:

Name- Definition
Alterans "From Latin Altera for the Other(s)"

Relation to Stargate:
The Ascended Ancients were frequently referred to as the others. We later learned that the Ancients called themselves the Alterans long, long ago.

Name- Defintion
Ancients "people who lived in times long past" -princeton.edu

Relation to Stargate:
People living in the Milky way galaxy frequently refer to the Ancients as the Ancients. This is probably because the Ancients lived in the Milky way long before and thus fit the definition of "people who lived in times long past."

Name- Definition
Lanteans "People who are from Lantea."

Relation to Stargate
As has been stated Lanteans is similar in meaning to Italians, Germans, Americans etc... it states a nationality or an affiliation. Lantea is the planet Atlantis was on.

Name- Definition
Anquietas "Ancestors"

Relation to Stargate
The Anquietas is first mentioned by the Ancient in "Sanctuary." Teyla and other Pegasus Galaxy humans frequently refer to the Ancients as "The Ancestors."

Name- Definition
The Others "The Ascended Ancients"

Relation to Stargate
The Ascended Ancients such as Oma Desala and Morgan La Fey frequently refer to their fellow ascended Ancients as "The Others."

Now as for the Ancients becoming less intelligent. We know that some of them fled the Milky way on Atlantis for the Pegasus Galaxy and some of them ascended. (To escape the plague that Ayiana had in the episode "Frozen") Those that ascended were later encountered by SG-1 and we know them as "The Others." Maybe many of the most intelligent and philosophical of the Ancients ascended while some fled on Atlantis.

So it is at least possible that the Ancients became less-intelligent because many of the Ancients that had helped make them a great civilization (that did not make as many mistakes as the Lanteans) ascended and were never in the Pegasus Galaxy.

But we do see advances in Ancient technology when comparing the older Milky way galaxy technology to the newer Pegasus Galaxy technology. One of the most noticeable is the Gate. The newer Pegasus Galaxy gates to not require a large moving section. The Pegasus Galaxy also has had many technologies like the Asurans, Project Arcturus and the Attero device that did not go as well as could be hoped. But they were still technological advancements. Also one type of time-travel technology was invented by Janus who lived in the Pegasus Galaxy on Atlantis. (Yes, I know the Ancients also had a time Travel device in the Milky way Galaxy that was seen in "Window of Opprotunity", the one where O'neill and Teal'c are trapped living the same day over and over.)

It is important to note however that the Ancient Repositories of Knowledge are not in the Pegasus Galaxy. This seems odd as it would have really helped them in their war with the wraith if they had scientists with all the knowledge of the Ancients at their disposal. Perhaps they were unable to bring one of these devices with them to the Pegasus Galaxy because they either lost them or were in a rush to escape the plague and did not have time to bring one. Or that these devices are much larger then we think. After all we have only seen them attached to a wall. There could be something behind the wall. Maybe it would have been difficult to fit one onto Atlantis.

If they were not able to bring this knowledge with them it would probably have been a serious setback to the Ancients in terms of their advancement. Thor mentioned in "New Order Part II" that they had been studying the Ancient Knowledge for years and had barely scratched the surface. Suggesting that the Ancient Knowledge database was massive. Losing such a large amount of information coupled with the ascension of many of their population, probably did make the Ancients not be able to advance as far as they could have. But it did not make the Ancients stupid, it was just a setback, and they were still very advanced and continued to make more advancements.




Thats a very good way of thinking about it, when ever I try and explain it i come across as stating the lanteans as being stupid lol But I understand what you are trying to say and i completely agree.

Although i still like to differentiate the Ancients(milky way variety) from the Lanteans just because I dont like the Lanteans all that much, only Morgan leFay and Janus.

Skate Zilla
November 9th, 2008, 04:10 PM
The Ancients, Alterans, Lanteans, etc are all the same race,

The Gatebuilders (ha, a name you guys left out), was what we called them before we knew anything about them.

Ancients was a Nickname Given to them by Humans of the Milkyway because they predated us, and was used heavily by Alterans themselves when encountered in Ascended form.

Lanteans is a regional descriptive name, i.e. AMERICANS, VIRGINIANS etc,

Alterans was what they call themselves socially.

As For the Destiny, No One Ever Said it still had Power or in what shape its in, if it was fully powered/functional we wouldnt have a series, we'd get there, play around and come home, so more than likely its non fully functional, so we get there and have to start repair/looking for power etc etc, Look at how we found Atlantis, nothing saying Destiny will not be in the same condition, Left to Slumber in low power/no power consumption state, with a Separate Power source for the Stargate, which if they had any common sense can only be dialed from one place and one place only (either Atlantis or some other significant Alteran Structure). so the star gate Power source should be fine, or the ships power source is depleted, hence the reason it never came BACK to Atlantis or Earth during the Alteran Grand Retreat (ironic the Asguard did the same thing, retreat and end their lives, while the Alterans Retreated and looked for the next step, similar decisions different paths, and who's to say the Asguard didn't Ascend anyway.

felixtcat
November 9th, 2008, 06:23 PM
I dunno if somebody though of this, but what if the ship is powered by ascended ancients? Somewhat familiar to how the ori ships are powered?

Silly Person we all know its powered by a Little Bunny with drums :)

I can see the promotional ADs on tv now.. Power is dying so the cast pools thier Energizer Batteries and its too much energy and blows systems left and right

felixtcat
November 9th, 2008, 06:34 PM
The Ancients, Alterans, Lanteans, etc are all the same race,

The Gatebuilders (ha, a name you guys left out), was what we called them before we knew anything about them.

I mentioned the gate builders in my post :p

As For the Destiny, No One Ever Said it still had Power or in what shape its in, if it was fully powered/functional we wouldnt have a series,.

I think it will be Fully powered with a Locked Navigation system that is hiden from actual site, and they cam eventialy "STOP" the ship for short periods to explore but have a Timer that starts it back up if not it will not have a very interesting show just traveling and no exploring

Also I think the ship will be explored enough when they find it until the right person with the GENE comes on board and activates the ship locking whoever is on the ship thus leaving not all the SOLDIER Types and some non essental people that would usualy be on Missions, like new recruits some Standard cleaning staff ect. would explain some of the characters

toby1kanobi
November 10th, 2008, 04:50 AM
I don't want to read everyone's detailed posts :/ I haven't seen anywhere myself that says the destiny is in Space. I would have thought it would be in an underground hanger like the ship from SGA "Inferno" and then during the pilot when they step onto the ship we will see umbilical type chords detach and they will take off :) , its just how i picture it would happen.

\/ the underground hanger in Inferno \/
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r212/gareth1406/underhanger.jpg

martin wood has allready said that the destiny is in space

Dragon_Heart
November 10th, 2008, 03:36 PM
I don't want to read everyone's detailed posts :/ I haven't seen anywhere myself that says the destiny is in Space. I would have thought it would be in an underground hanger like the ship from SGA "Inferno" and then during the pilot when they step onto the ship we will see umbilical type chords detach and they will take off :) , its just how i picture it would happen.

\/ the underground hanger in Inferno \/
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r212/gareth1406/underhanger.jpg

dude, they've already said its set on a ship already exploring the universe, and has been doin so for most likel hundreds of thousands of years. it was launched by the ancients, its not underground.

the ignorance on some people -.-

jenks
November 10th, 2008, 03:38 PM
dude, they've already said its set on a ship already exploring the universe, and has been doin so for most likel hundreds of thousands of years. it was launched by the ancients, its not underground.

the ignorance on some people -.-

No they haven't.

Gawd, the ignorance of some people...

toby1kanobi
November 11th, 2008, 02:32 AM
No they haven't.

Gawd, the ignorance of some people...

yes they have, it clearly states in the series synopsis this ia a quote from the MGM press elease (from this very site) i have highlighted the key parts

After unlocking the mystery of the Stargate's ninth chevron, a team of explorers travels to an unmanned starship called the Destiny, launched by the Ancients at the height of their civilization as a grand experiment set in motion, but never completed.

What starts as a simple reconnaissance turns into a never ending mission, as the Stargate Universe crew discovers the ship is unable to return to Earth, and they must now fend for themselves aboard the Destiny.

The crew will travel to the far reaches of the universe, connecting with each of the previously launched Stargates, thus fulfilling the Destiny's original mission. Challenges will arise though as the ship comes into range of Stargates placed centuries ahead of the Destiny and the crew is unable to control the ship's navigational schedule. If someone is left behind, there is no way to go back for them, adding to the drama of encountering new races, enemies and adventures.

or this from the SGU episode guide also on this very site

A team of explorers from Earth discover an Ancient vessel traveling from galaxy to galaxy -- an Ancient experiment millions of years in the making.


and you have the gall to call others ignorant

jenks
November 11th, 2008, 08:30 AM
Didn't read the post above mine did you? And if what those quotes suggest (they don't explicitly state it) is true, then they've changed their tune. Originally the ship was supposed to be dormant, which makes more sense to me, as why would they send what was supposed to be a manned reconnaissance ship out unmanned?

toby1kanobi
November 12th, 2008, 03:50 AM
Didn't read the post above mine did you? And if what those quotes suggest (they don't explicitly state it) is true, then they've changed their tune. Originally the ship was supposed to be dormant, which makes more sense to me, as why would they send what was supposed to be a manned reconnaissance ship out unmanned?

this i do not know, i must conceed that logicaly you are right, but from a story telling point of view it simply usnt work, firstly, when have you ever known t.v executives to keep to the one story or idea, and secondly, theres no reason why it cant be adrift, dormant in space, its just as feesable as sitting in a hanger somewhere and in space it would be far more protected (tectonic activity, metior srikes on the planet. a lot happens over a few million years) but in space low power shields are sufficent to protect from metiors and a cloak would be hany too (even stationry in space its a much smaller target than a planet). and think about it, the main rumor is that its a city ship maybe the size or bigger than atlantis, that would need to be one hell of a hanger

jrd231
November 12th, 2008, 04:39 AM
Ancients are the same as lantians

I think you have that backwards. Lanteans are Ancients, but not all Ancients are Lantean. Lantean is a designation to describe an Ancient who lived on Atlantis in the Pegasus galaxy. That is all it means.

ashcroft
July 28th, 2009, 01:39 AM
im sorry but i havn't had time to read al these but did anyone here think that this ship has a stargate maybe it is meant to have life

frostwolf
July 28th, 2009, 04:49 AM
I believe its been said not sure where I've read it probably through JM's blog that the Destiny was meant to be inhabbited. The ancients just abandoned the project for one reason or another.

dahok
July 28th, 2009, 06:21 AM
Atlantis was millions of years old, and so were the ZPMs. So in the millions of years they operated the Destiny, they never went back and upgraded the tech? I understand the Wraith war would distract them, but that was just a tiny fraction of their history.

thekillman
July 28th, 2009, 09:21 AM
in several trailers, it is said that the ship is falling apart. its not like they're on some brand new ship.

in space, radiation is the only enemy. so if it has some form of repair system, it can live very long. and the destiny does not need replicators to do that