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Jack_Bauer
October 15th, 2008, 05:10 AM
This is not a Universe bashing thread.

I can feel it in my bones people, there are going to be lots of filler eps in this new series. Think about it, they are trapped on a ship jumping between points in space. Not that i'm against filler eps, i think if they are done right they can progress the development in a character, however, if your a sucker for the overriding story arc, then this is gonna be a long series for you my friend...

Lewisco
October 15th, 2008, 06:46 AM
i thought the exact same thing. the series lends itself to filler episodes. but you never know, depending on what the main story arc is we might not get as many as we're predicting. but id agree, i dont mind fillers as long as they're done well. but then again, too many.. and it can get tiresome.

Platschu
October 15th, 2008, 07:32 AM
I think every main character will get an own episode, so if you ad the season opener, the mid season two parter and the season finale, than they will continue what they did on Atlantis in the last years. I believe in writers's creativity, because even if an episode will show a new view of a character, than they can link it to a bigger storyline. I am sure there will be at least 3-4 minor story arc as well. Maybe they will have returning enemies and allies, so they can bring back earlier Universe guest characters and events. ;)

Other. What can we call as filler? Because I believer a good stand alone adventure doesn't count as "filler", if it had great special effects, great sets and expensive guest stars. The word refers to such episode, when we can see our heroes in new situations (like SG-1 in Changeling).

General Yogi Bear
October 15th, 2008, 07:45 AM
I think it would be neat if in every new season they jump to a different galaxy. Like Jack Baur said if the filler episodes are done well its fine. And like Platschu said there will probably be mini-arcs in each season. Personally I think overall that the filler episodes in Atlantis have been great but to be fair some seasons have been better than others. When it comes to Universe I will have faith in the writers. Theyve done 15 seasons of tv and movies. They know what they're doing.

Serebii
October 15th, 2008, 07:56 AM
Look at SG1 and see how many episodes of Season 1 featured the Goa'uld and the story arc;

Children of the Gods
Enemy Within
Bloodlines
Singularity (In a silent capacity)
Cor-ai
There But For The Grace Of God
Politics (Sorta)
Within the Seprent's Lair

Isn't really that many

Platschu
October 15th, 2008, 08:17 AM
Look at SG1 and see how many episodes of Season 1 featured the Goa'uld and the story arc;

Children of the Gods
Enemy Within
Bloodlines
Singularity (In a silent capacity)
Cor-ai
There But For The Grace Of God
Politics (Sorta)
Within the Seprent's Lair

Isn't really that many
You didn't mention the Nox and Hathor. :) And they mentioned Goa'ulds in almost every episode.

But they began some very important story arc:
- the Asgard, Protected Planets, the Unas
- the Nox
- the Ancients and the Four Race
- the Tollan
- the second gate on Earth
- Nirrti, Cassie, gene experiments
- political crisis about the future of SGC, the NID

So there were only 3-4 "real" stand-alone, but every episodes was continued later. ;)

Jackie
October 15th, 2008, 08:18 AM
I

What can we call as filler? Because I believer a good stand alone adventure doesn't count as "filler", if it had great special effects, great sets and expensive guest stars. The word refers to such episode, when we can see our heroes in new situations (like SG-1 in Changeling).


I'm sorry to have to disagree but...


That's exactly what is filler is.

An expensive ep with no real bearing on the plot but is flashy and loaded with crap.

A filler is an ep that has no bearing on the over all plot. It simply fills space. Great special effects, great sets and highly paid guest stars is a basic recipe for a filler episode. If the script is bad then all you got is eye candy. 45 minutes of eye candy is a bit too much for me. Might as well be watching a porno flick.

Writing could make a filler less of a filler if done correctly. The mini plot of the filler must be captivating or else all you are left with a flash and no substance.

With SGU and the given history of tptb. I fully expect a series loaded with fillers, flash and no real substance.

Platschu
October 15th, 2008, 08:30 AM
Ok, maybe I expressed myself wrong or I definite wrong, but these episodes are called as stand-alone what you wrote. Basically every filler is stand-alone, but not every stand-alone is filler. The Changeling or 200 were such episodes, because they made something really very different from the "normal". ;)

I liked the first season of SG-1, because every episode were made as a "mini movie". As far as I can remember they planned the earlier episodes really as a "new" SG movie, so the episodes became really exiting tales. Maybe I am in nostalgic mode, but I loved the feeling of discovery. They began a new series and we didn't know what will happen. There were new planets, new races, new adventures. I could sense this in season 9 and Atlantis season 1 as the spin-off(s) began. I hope the Universe will cause such good memories in me next year too. :)

Serebii
October 15th, 2008, 10:04 AM
You didn't mention the Nox and Hathor. :) And they mentioned Goa'ulds in almost every episode.

But they began some very important story arc:
- the Asgard, Protected Planets, the Unas
- the Nox
- the Ancients and the Four Race
- the Tollan
- the second gate on Earth
- Nirrti, Cassie, gene experiments
- political crisis about the future of SGC, the NID

So there were only 3-4 "real" stand-alone, but every episodes was continued later. ;)
Exactly my point, they got continued later, but when SG1 aired, they were considered fillers just like the SGU eps will be

Arthurdent
October 15th, 2008, 10:31 AM
I don't expect (although I would hope) that there will be too many continued plot threads relating to the places they visit. What I mean is that there will be a lot of planet of the weeks that we will never see again. So if that's filler, I think there will be a lot of it.

I would expect to have continued plotlines about the Destiny itself and its crew, since that's going to stay from week to week. And I wouldn't consider that to be filler.

LostCityGuardian
October 15th, 2008, 10:55 AM
Exactly my point, they got continued later, but when SG1 aired, they were considered fillers just like the SGU eps will be

Exactly. Story arcs have to start at some point. For example, did anyone really think when they first saw Thor's Hammer that it would create a huge Asgard story arc over the next 10 years?

TheHomegaMan
October 15th, 2008, 11:38 AM
This is not a Universe bashing thread.

I can feel it in my bones people, there are going to be lots of filler eps in this new series. Think about it, they are trapped on a ship jumping between points in space. Not that i'm against filler eps, i think if they are done right they can progress the development in a character, however, if your a sucker for the overriding story arc, then this is gonna be a long series for you my friend...

Just so we're absolutely clear, you're just coming up with speculation based on a gut feeling? There can be plenty done with the Destiny. I know plenty of Gateheads feel that a story revolves around the planet of the week, but I'm willing to see what TPTB are going to try with a focus on the characters instead. BSG proved that you don't need to find some new race, go to some new planet, or find some random ├╝ber-gadget of the week to drive a story.

Trapped and unable to control where they're going? I'd love to see how the characters are dealing with that. This is a chance for a real character-driven show. I'm of the belief that maybe TPTB can get character development right this time, unlike their McKay-Ronon-Keller fiasco. I have about as much information on the show as most of you (read: very, very little), but the potential is there. I can't say they'll capitalize any more than most of you can say they'll drop the ball, but at least I've got enough sense to wait and see.

If you want to have a basis for wondering whether or not there will be a solid storyline, look to what they've done before. SGA's idea of long story arcs is to bring in a villain from SG-1, deal with them for a season (two seasons tops), bring in somebody new to command the expedition, then move on to something else. The Wraith are hardly the top bad guys now.

Now don't make the easy mistake of misinterpreting this as a pro-SGU post. It's simply a matter of pointing out the very many and very manifest flaws in most of the criticisms leveled thus far. YMMV.

Shaod
October 15th, 2008, 12:59 PM
Ok, maybe I expressed myself wrong or I definite wrong, but these episodes are called as stand-alone what you wrote. Basically every filler is stand-alone, but not every stand-alone is filler. The Changeling or 200 were such episodes, because they made something really very different from the "normal". ;)

I liked the first season of SG-1, because every episode were made as a "mini movie". As far as I can remember they planned the earlier episodes really as a "new" SG movie, so the episodes became really exiting tales. Maybe I am in nostalgic mode, but I loved the feeling of discovery. They began a new series and we didn't know what will happen. There were new planets, new races, new adventures. I could sense this in season 9 and Atlantis season 1 as the spin-off(s) began. I hope the Universe will cause such good memories in me next year too. :)

I agree. What first got me into Stargate SG-1 was all of the exploration. If SGU is anything like that I will watch it for the first season at least.

poundpuppy29
October 15th, 2008, 02:01 PM
I am still unsure if I will check this series out. I like SG-1 more than SGA but I loved the first 3 seasons of SGA and I like characters more than story and I am unsure about the characters so far but I like the filler eps for the most part because usually they are character centric.

Jackie
October 15th, 2008, 02:58 PM
Ok, maybe I expressed myself wrong or I definite wrong, but these episodes are called as stand-alone what you wrote. Basically every filler is stand-alone, but not every stand-alone is filler. The Changeling or 200 were such episodes, because they made something really very different from the "normal". ;)

I liked the first season of SG-1, because every episode were made as a "mini movie". As far as I can remember they planned the earlier episodes really as a "new" SG movie, so the episodes became really exiting tales. Maybe I am in nostalgic mode, but I loved the feeling of discovery. They began a new series and we didn't know what will happen. There were new planets, new races, new adventures. I could sense this in season 9 and Atlantis season 1 as the spin-off(s) began. I hope the Universe will cause such good memories in me next year too. :)

stand alone and filler are two different things. Stand alone eps do have a plot, even if it doesn' effect the over all arc immediately. Plot is key.

200 was so off the wall it was actually a joke episode down by tptb to make their birthday. That's neither filler or stand alone. It was simply retarded. 200 was so bad IMO there is no category for it.:o

tptb are also pretty good at doing a cross between a stand alone and a filler. essentially, a stand alone ep that is lame on plot and reason or filled plot holes. hence, a stand alone filler. :)

Boon
October 15th, 2008, 03:11 PM
I really dig the stand alone adventures, they help flesh out the universe and add more dimension to it, It's not all Goa'uld(Wraith/replicators) out there... and a little change in pace is nice now and then, yes it's not always timed the best, you don't want a random adventure right in the middle of a big arc but when things slow down from the big arc's its great to have your one shot adventures to shake things up and keep the show interesting.

But like you guys said, having a ship jump from galaxy to galaxy doesn't exactly lend itself to big arcs with a sole central villain(s), so lets just hope they come up with something decent, none of this (http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s6/613.shtml), this (http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s7/714.shtml) or this (http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s7/708.shtml)

Kris_x-303
October 15th, 2008, 03:28 PM
Of course theres going to be filler episodes, its something they do to test ratings..

What im going to be sure of is theyre going to find out how to get on and off the ship and while theyre exploring, find a magical alien dude/chick who knows everything about the galaxy theyre in, and like its been said a thousand times before, i get a feeling its going to turn into Stargate Voyager :mckay:

Commander Zelix
October 15th, 2008, 06:34 PM
Stand alone are not all fillers. I also like the fact that some of those episodes are like mini movies and are more topical than space opera-ish. A good mix of stand alones and arc (or semi-arc) episodes is what Stargate have been doing. Which is good.

stargater1990
October 15th, 2008, 06:35 PM
This is not a Universe bashing thread.

I can feel it in my bones people, there are going to be lots of filler eps in this new series. Think about it, they are trapped on a ship jumping between points in space. Not that i'm against filler eps, i think if they are done right they can progress the development in a character, however, if your a sucker for the overriding story arc, then this is gonna be a long series for you my friend...


i just hope that we get to see and know a lot about the ship. i mean i would love filler eps if they involved ancient technology being used. heck, atlantis could have used some more filler eps involving exploration of the city, i mean seriously they went there for the express purpose of unlocking the secrets of the "lost city" and have still barely scratched the surface and probobly stll havent searched every room yet.

-Major Woody
October 15th, 2008, 06:52 PM
I think the term Jack was looking for is 'bottle show.'

TheHomegaMan
October 15th, 2008, 10:13 PM
i just hope that we get to see and know a lot about the ship. i mean i would love filler eps if they involved ancient technology being used. heck, atlantis could have used some more filler eps involving exploration of the city, i mean seriously they went there for the express purpose of unlocking the secrets of the "lost city" and have still barely scratched the surface and probobly stll havent searched every room yet.

They saved exploring the city for when they needed to find the Ancient Device of the Week (tm). It wasn't a focus for the show, it was just a way to say "Hey guys, check out what we've pulled out of our nethers this week!"

Silverwings
October 15th, 2008, 10:43 PM
This is a chance for a real character-driven show. I'm of the belief that maybe TPTB can get character development right this time, unlike their McKay-Ronon-Keller fiasco. I have about as much information on the show as most of you (read: very, very little), but the potential is there. I can't say they'll capitalize any more than most of you can say they'll drop the ball, but at least I've got enough sense to wait and see.

Y'know, I was hoping to see some of that realized potential in SGA. No, they dropped the ball and booched pretty much every chance they had at making real, meaningful relationships. TPTB and their treatment of SGA is a case study in wasted potential and missteps. I'm not inclined to give them much slack regarding SGU.

Commander Zelix
October 15th, 2008, 11:52 PM
Y'know, I was hoping to see some of that realized potential in SGA. No, they dropped the ball and booched pretty much every chance they had at making real, meaningful relationships. TPTB and their treatment of SGA is a case study in wasted potential and missteps. I'm not inclined to give them much slack regarding SGU.

Ok, but those that means exploring the city. Don't take me wrong, I like the idea on paper. But what does it actually means? Don't forget that you must actually make a (original) story out of it. I can remember a few episodes where they did actually explore the city. *Atlantis spoilers* Like Echoes when they find a room which communicates with the whale-like creatures. Another where McKay find a device which make him invisible or another when they find a wraith queen in the underground. And obviously a few more. I think they could have found a few more rooms with new technologies and power, but somehow that idea alone seems limited.

Buck32
October 16th, 2008, 02:12 PM
I'm sorry to have to disagree but...


That's exactly what is filler is.

An expensive ep with no real bearing on the plot but is flashy and loaded with crap.

A filler is an ep that has no bearing on the over all plot. It simply fills space. Great special effects, great sets and highly paid guest stars is a basic recipe for a filler episode. If the script is bad then all you got is eye candy. 45 minutes of eye candy is a bit too much for me. Might as well be watching a porno flick.

Writing could make a filler less of a filler if done correctly. The mini plot of the filler must be captivating or else all you are left with a flash and no substance.

With SGU and the given history of tptb. I fully expect a series loaded with fillers, flash and no real substance.


I couldn't agree with you more, let's just call SGU the filler series!!!!

Silverwings
October 16th, 2008, 05:07 PM
Ok, but those that means exploring the city. Don't take me wrong, I like the idea on paper. But what does it actually means?

Oh, I'm not limiting them to the city, though I dearly wish that they had done more with it. No, I just think the Wraith were ill-advised, the Replicators were a retread, and the overall tone of "darker, edgier" with the wanton killing of characters just wasn't the best that could have come from the initial concept. They didn't even know what to do with Weir, ostensibly hired because she was one of Earth's best negotiators. They wasted Ford. They killed a doctor. Again. Actually, they killed two. It's like they lost the spark of hope, optimism and humor that SG-1 had and turned it in for cleavage, explosions, and a deep depression. I didn't want a carbon copy of SG-1, but they sure could have done a lot better to maintain the spirit of the franchise.

Actually, I think the Wraith could have worked if they weren't so over the top cheezy horror ripoffs. Common Ground gave them depth that they should have had much, much earlier. There were a lot of cool ideas in SGA... but the execution just left a lot to be desired.

As for SGU, with its' "younger, hipper" theme, didn't we see that already in 200? I doubt that it'll be that bad, but really, we're slipping into self-parody territory with wanton abandon.

Mike3121
October 19th, 2008, 12:36 PM
What I would like to see in character development would be character depth. Flash backs to their previous life, who they really are, sort of like the original concept on Lost. What I don't want to see is all type of angst with everyone at each others throats, just anger with no cooperation. Wow, I think I just described SGA's first season.

Inorder to keep the costs down they will probably have a lot of plot lines where one or more of the actor's body has been taken over by a alien being or perhaps a computer takes over the ship. These could be good but I don't want to see a steady diet of them. I do hope they keep the humor of the original SG1, and don't take themselves so seriously.

Just my little rant.

Franklyn Blaze
October 19th, 2008, 01:40 PM
What I would like to see in character development would be character depth. Flash backs to their previous life, who they really are, sort of like the original concept on Lost.
Just my little rant.

I can see it now, Lost: In Space.

Pitry
October 19th, 2008, 01:51 PM
Ok, maybe I expressed myself wrong or I definite wrong, but these episodes are called as stand-alone what you wrote. Basically every filler is stand-alone, but not every stand-alone is filler. The Changeling or 200 were such episodes, because they made something really very different from the "normal". ;)

I liked the first season of SG-1, because every episode were made as a "mini movie". As far as I can remember they planned the earlier episodes really as a "new" SG movie, so the episodes became really exiting tales. Maybe I am in nostalgic mode, but I loved the feeling of discovery. They began a new series and we didn't know what will happen. There were new planets, new races, new adventures. I could sense this in season 9 and Atlantis season 1 as the spin-off(s) began. I hope the Universe will cause such good memories in me next year too. :)

Butbut. The Changeling was neither a filler nor a standalone, it was very much an arc episode, as in, it connected to the overall free Jaffa plot.

I would say... The Torment of Tantalus is a stand-alone, in that it wasn't a part of a running arc. In contrast, Revisions is a filler - not only it's not a part of a running arc, it's also pointless. ;)

Delynn
October 19th, 2008, 02:30 PM
If by "full of filler" the original poster means that Universe is prolly gonna be more character-driven and less flashy/blow-stuff-up/big arc, I think that's an accurate assessment. But I fail to see why this is a bad thing. I've heard so many people complain about the character-driven episodes (like The Shrine, for example), but I find the episodes where the characters develop more fully to be the very best episodes of them all!

Jack_Bauer
October 19th, 2008, 03:44 PM
Butbut. The Changeling was neither a filler nor a standalone, it was very much an arc episode, as in, it connected to the overall free Jaffa plot.

I would say... The Torment of Tantalus is a stand-alone, in that it wasn't a part of a running arc. In contrast, Revisions is a filler - not only it's not a part of a running arc, it's also pointless. ;)

The Torment of Tantalus was hardly a stand-alone nor a filler since it created the mythology of the Great Alliance and was our first look at Ancient writing and society. It also expanded on the Asgard by including them in the Alliance.

Nadji
October 21st, 2008, 03:03 AM
I'm afraid there may not be a constant enemy such as the Goa'uld or the Wraith in SGU. considering all the galaxy hopping it is suggested the Destiny will be doing.

Pitry
October 21st, 2008, 04:50 AM
The Torment of Tantalus was hardly a stand-alone nor a filler since it created the mythology of the Great Alliance and was our first look at Ancient writing and society. It also expanded on the Asgard by including them in the Alliance.

On hindsight, yes - but it was meant as a stand-alone originally.

I guess I meant, like someone up here said, the original poster might have meant character driven as filler rather than the big explosionm, but I wouldn't consider a character driven episode (well, a well done character driven episode...) as a filler, but rather as a stand alone. However, Broken Ties or Talion or Family Ties-esque episode would be considered by me to be a filler.

Quadhelix
October 21st, 2008, 06:30 AM
Ok, but those that means exploring the city. Don't take me wrong, I like the idea on paper. But what does it actually means? Don't forget that you must actually make a (original) story out of it. I can remember a few episodes where they did actually explore the city. "Hide and Seek," "Hot Zone," "The Defiant One," "Before I Sleep," "Trinity," "Echoes," "The Tao of Rodney," "Sunday," "Submersion," and "First Contact" all had to do with leftover Ancient technology and/or things that the team found while exploring Atlantis and its star system.

I simply have to say, the very nature of the show will make it rather difficult to have long-running arcs about things that are not on the Destiny, as any potential enemies/allies will only be "in range" as it were for a few episode before the ship moves on.

jenks
October 21st, 2008, 06:49 AM
Isn't this supposed to be more character driven? Long running arcs should be easy to incorporate into the show...

Slyke
October 21st, 2008, 09:29 AM
What I would like to see in character development would be character depth. Flash backs to their previous life, who they really are, sort of like the original concept on Lost. What I don't want to see is all type of angst with everyone at each others throats, just anger with no cooperation. Wow, I think I just described SGA's first season.

Inorder to keep the costs down they will probably have a lot of plot lines where one or more of the actor's body has been taken over by a alien being or perhaps a computer takes over the ship. These could be good but I don't want to see a steady diet of them. I do hope they keep the humor of the original SG1, and don't take themselves so seriously.

Just my little rant.

Have you seen the new Universal Soldier 2007 I think it is?
Well if you haven't, I have some advice for you.
Don't. Just don't.

Commander Zelix
October 21st, 2008, 08:16 PM
I simply have to say, the very nature of the show will make it rather difficult to have long-running arcs about things that are not on the Destiny, as any potential enemies/allies will only be "in range" as it were for a few episode before the ship moves on.

I thought the ship was moving around inside the same galaxy? Possibly a galaxy with its own stargate system, so anybody can be interlinked like the goauld, jaffa, tokra, human in our galaxy.

swwack91
October 26th, 2008, 03:08 PM
i don't see how SGU will have any higher potential for filler episodes than the other 2 series...

i would prefer if they continued atlantis rather than started SGU, but since they are, I'll definitely support it.

some of my favorite episodes of both SG1 and SGA were the "filler", character based episodes like "Trio", "Quarantine", "Solitudes", "Threads", "Duet", "The Other Guys"....

if any show is going to build itself for a long-term run, they have to stretch out the main story arc and "fill" the rest with character development and exploring the show's setting.

I've trusted TPTB with the SG franchise ever since the beginning and have thoroughly enjoyed every season of SG1/SGA so far... being that it's the same minds behind SGU, i trust that it'll follow suit.

it's so annoying hearing everyone complaining about "TPTB" b/c they're the ones bringing you the shows that you claim to enjoy. if you're so annoyed with the PROGRESSION of the franchise, then why are you hanging around on a website like GateWorld?

A franchise that's nearly 15 years old is bound to evolve... i can't wait to see what the next evolution in SGU will be.

Daedalus-304
October 26th, 2008, 09:57 PM
I think the nature of the show itself, jumping from galaxy to galaxy across the universe, means we won't have consistent enemies or anything like that. I expect most to be stand alone where they get supplies, solve problems on that planet, ect.

The only consistent enemy I could think of is a ship following them, or an enemy that has spread across the universe like a replicator race or something.

ciannwn
October 27th, 2008, 06:34 AM
if you're so annoyed with the PROGRESSION of the franchise, then why are you hanging around on a website like GateWorld?

The GateWorld forum is a discussion forum so people can make topics about how much they are annoyed by such things if they want to.

Jack_Bauer
October 27th, 2008, 05:27 PM
some of my favorite episodes of both SG1 and SGA were the "filler", character based episodes like "Trio", "Quarantine", "Solitudes", "Threads", "Duet", "The Other Guys"....




A franchise that's nearly 15 years old is bound to evolve... i can't wait to see what the next evolution in SGU will be.

How are these fillers? (the one's i bolded)

Evolve? Oh please, the last few years of SGA have been 'SG1: Revisited' in terms of plot lines and characters.

fuzzylogicman
October 27th, 2008, 08:26 PM
I thought filler shows were the best part of SG-1 and something that fans were crying for when the Ori appeared in the storyline and there were no more filler/'out to the stargate to see what happens'. 'The Others' was a great episode, very fun and very orginal. I think SG-U will be alot like voyager and have alot of one off episodes and thats what made it different from the series. Specially a series that is more ship based then stargate based. I think if you don't like that then don't watch SG-U

Aryk Celestis
October 28th, 2008, 01:28 AM
^You see, that's the main thing I'm worried about... Stargate Voyager.

I know it's off-topic, but what made Stargate unique is that it's scifi, but it's about exploring the universe with something other than a spaceship. When I first heard about Stargate Universe and that it was going to be about the ninth chevron, I thought it was going to be awesome. But now it seems it's going to be almost entirely ship-based. Basically, unlike with Atlantis (where you still at least saw the gate often, even if it wasn't that relevant), TPTB really need to incorporate the gate into it if we still want to call it Stargate and not Star Trek.

On-topic: The likelihood of a great amount of filler episodes/stand-alones also worries me. On one hand, it's a chance to explore many, many different aliens (hopefully, alien-aliens instead of another humanoid race created by the Ancients). But on the other hand, what's the point of introducing them all if we're never going to see them again - seeing as the ship continues travelling? While there may be progressions in character development, how will the overall story grow?

prion
October 28th, 2008, 11:30 AM
I predict they'll have a holodeck or at least alternate universe episodes ;) Mark my words! ;) I do see filler episodes aplenty due to the fact they're in a mobile situation. No home base, really, unless you could the ship as a home base, and sorry, well, it sounds more and more like Stargate Voyager.

And they'll rip off at least a dozen SG1/SGA plots too ;)

Darkstar 2.0
October 30th, 2008, 07:42 AM
For me the filler episodes of the Early seasons of Stargate SG1 were great, I still love them now, nowerdays I don't always get the time to watch an entire arc, on a off subject but kinda related to this in some way is Enterprise, seasons 1 -2 had stand along with the end of season cliff-hangers, however I loved season 3-4 but!...as you will know if your a fan is these seasons like so many shows had continuing arc's that spanned an entire season and season 4 had 3 part episodes that lasted ages lol

In Stargate, I loved the fact they did so many stand alone episodes in many season, but, many of those episodes such as Changeling, The Other side and Need were very much self contained, but they spanned the Stargate Universe itself and opened it up more, in Changeling Teal'c lost his Symbiote, in Need we discovered the value of Naquahdah and in episodes such as Thor's Hamer they paved the way for later episodes.

In essence, every episode pretty much was a requisite for making SG1 the show that is was, GREAT!, no episode was too trivial, no episode was unecessary and no episode kept the storylines stationary, they all moved it along and gave way to some of the more memorable major arc's such as the Reol syrum used against the Goa'uld system Lord's, the Dakara Weapon used against the Ori, the Supergate used against the Ori and aginst the Wraith in the same episode...the events spanned over to the SGA also...that's why I love it so much! :D

RepliVeggie
November 2nd, 2008, 09:42 PM
I loved what they did with Season 9 and 10. Even the fillers were tied into the main arc in some small way.

jelgate
November 3rd, 2008, 07:34 AM
They are not fillers if they tie into an arc even if its small;)

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November 6th, 2008, 10:29 AM
Theyve done 15 seasons of tv and movies. They know what they're doing.

It's been 15 seasons and TV movies, creativity can only stretch so far.