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November 17th, 2004, 07:26 PM
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<FONT SIZE=4 COLOR="#0066BF">A MATTER OF HONOR</FONT>
<FONT SIZE=1>AUTHOR - Sally Malcolm</FONT>
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Five years after Major Henry Boyd and his team were trapped on the edge of a black hole, Colonel Jack O'Neill discovers a device that could bring them home. (Part 1 of 2)

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jantreeuk1
November 26th, 2004, 10:57 AM
I've read up to chapter 6 as I just couldn't wait until the weekend when I have the time to read it. So far it is brilliant and I am really looking forward to my lie in tomorrow! Plenty of team, plenty of Daniel and Jack and even Danny (and Teal'c) whumping, so far. It's a clever idea too. Sort of pleased it is a two parter, means I will have to wait (I have little doubt I will finish this over the weekend) but means it is a longer more rounded story. Love the characterisation, something that has been really good in all three novels so far and is probably due to very careful overview by someone. It's set season 7 as Sam is major and Daniel is alive. So far I'd give it 5 out of 5.
jan t

Albion
November 27th, 2004, 09:41 PM
Like, Jan, I'm halfway through this one and was so reluctant to put it down at 3am! (It just arrived this morning from Amazon <g>). I can't wait to finish it tomorrow! I, too, am getting more and more glad as I read through this one that it's in two parts. There certainly seems to be enough story to accomodate it.

So far I'm really loving this one. The plot is engaging and intriguing and there are plenty of team moments. As a shipper, I'm also greatly enjoying the little snippets of mild ship here and there sprinkled through the story.

And also the fact that there's much more introspection in this novel than is usual for books of this type. Usually publishers avoid introspection like the plague. That's a real bonus and an aspect that I hope to see in other novels in the series if Fandemonium are open to it, as it seems they are. It's not overwhelming, just a light touch of the character's thoughts which really makes the novel for me.

So far, most everyone has had an equal share of the action and I love the characterisations, too.

Most of all, as I read, so far, I feel as though I'm reading a really, really great fanfic. And that's the best compliment I can give any Stargate novel.

If the first three books are the sign of things to come, we're in for a treat in the future as each new book in the series just improves on the last.

Albion :)

jantreeuk1
November 28th, 2004, 06:37 AM
Finished it. When's the next one???????
Absolutely loved this one, loved the first two as well but this shone through with lots of team, h/c, angst and huge amounts of friendship especially between Daniel and Jack. I didn't see any more ship than deep concern for Carter from Jack which is the way they play it on tv. Liked the way there were little mentions to the other novels. I was really in this being able to picture some of the scenario from having seen it on tv helped. I don't think anyone would be disappointed with this whichever character they favoured. Even Janet and (quite a lot of) Hammond are in it. It's cleverly left on a cliff hanger but the story is rounded off as well.
5+ out of 5.
jan t

David
November 28th, 2004, 02:28 PM
Since I imagine I'm going to give a very decent review on this book (love what I've read so far), I thought I'd gripe a moment about the first spelling error I've found in a Fandemonium story. Wanna see?

Voice of Professor Severus Snape: "Open your books to page 48."
second-to-last paragraph. Teal'c's line: "We had better hope that is does not."

My official review probably won't mention this. Just thought I'd spill it here :D

jantreeuk1
November 28th, 2004, 02:51 PM
Isn't that a mistake rather than a spelling mistake I would doubt the author didn't know how to spell 'it'
jan t

David
November 28th, 2004, 03:08 PM
Well it's a mistake either way ;) :)

jantreeuk1
November 29th, 2004, 02:03 PM
Indeed & I think you may find others I'm sure there were in all three books I tend to do a double check then forget them.
jan t

Dana_Jeanne
November 29th, 2004, 02:43 PM
Since I imagine I'm going to give a very decent review on this book (love what I've read so far),

So gang, is it worth paying almost 12 POUNDS for? Every time I go in to order it, my head starts hurting.

Dana Jeanne

David
November 29th, 2004, 05:14 PM
I forked over the 12 pounds. Then I calculated out a pound ...

Skydiver
November 29th, 2004, 06:38 PM
yeah, that exchange rate is a killer

Albion
November 29th, 2004, 06:43 PM
The book is riddled with grammatical and punctuation errors and typos. But then, increasingly, so are most published novels these days. I notice them, wince over a lot of them, but don't let it get in the way of a good read.

I've heard that the rise in such errors - and they have gotten much worse in just the last five or so years - is due to an increasing reliance by publishers on computerised editing programs, rather than the good old (and seemingly more reliable!) human eye they used to use.

Albion :)

Eken95
November 30th, 2004, 02:15 PM
The book is riddled with grammatical and punctuation errors and typos. But then, increasingly, so are most published novels these days. I notice them, wince over a lot of them, but don't let it get in the way of a good read.

I've heard that the rise in such errors - and they have gotten much worse in just the last five or so years - is due to an increasing reliance by publishers on computerised editing programs, rather than the good old (and seemingly more reliable!) human eye they used to use.

Albion :)

I didn't notice any, did enjoy the book though it's great. The characterisation was spot on

erika

jantreeuk1
November 30th, 2004, 02:22 PM
Dana as I see you bought Trial by Fire all I can say is this is by far superior a read. If you like whumping and h/c and angst this has it all but it is full of team, very orientated on the Daniel/Jack friendship. Also there is to be a follow up novel. You can always sell it on E-Bay afterwards to regain some of your money.
jan t

Dana_Jeanne
November 30th, 2004, 02:56 PM
Dana as I see you bought Trial by Fire all I can say is this is by far superior a read. If you like whumping and h/c and angst this has it all but it is full of team, very orientated on the Daniel/Jack friendship. Also there is to be a follow up novel. You can always sell it on E-Bay afterwards to regain some of your money.
jan t

I bought Sacrifice Moon, too :rolleyes: then I started adding it all up. Oh, what the heck! It's only money, right?

Dana Jeanne

jantreeuk1
December 7th, 2004, 02:45 PM
I have just found that amazon uk is doing a deal on buying A Matter of Honor and City of the Gods together. Can anyone say if City of the Gods is the follow up? It doesn't sound a likely title considering where they should be going from the end of book 3.
jan t

Dana_Jeanne
December 8th, 2004, 08:08 PM
I have just found that amazon uk is doing a deal on buying A Matter of Honor and City of the Gods together. Can anyone say if City of the Gods is the follow up? It doesn't sound a likely title considering where they should be going from the end of book 3.
jan t

I emailed and asked about it, answered half the question anyway:

City of the Gods was a provisional title which was unfortunately picked up
by Amazon from the UK ISBN database. This is likely to change between now
and publication date. Keep an eye on the website and we'll post updates when we have more information.

jantreeuk1
December 9th, 2004, 02:49 PM
There is a deal on amazon uk at moment for A Matter of Honor with City of the Gods which saves £2.40 or $4.62066.
Might help a little
jan t

henry
December 14th, 2004, 01:38 AM
Hi I have just started reading, "A Matter of Honor" and yeah there are a few typo's but it is a good read, (you should see the typo's allowed to be printed in BCA Books reprints of novels) and picks up on a story line that even none avaid fans remember, my wife who is not a great fan keeps steeling it.

I read as well that some of you aren't happy about the price of buying and shipping - I'd be happy to ship the book to you for £5.99 plus P&P of
£3 - that's £8.99 (about $17) in total compared to Amazon who would charge
you £11.77 (£4.79 for the book and £6.98 for shipping!) which is about
$22.40."

If you are interested let me know ([email protected]), and I will let post some more info.

David
December 19th, 2004, 03:01 PM
I have just found that amazon uk is doing a deal on buying A Matter of Honor and City of the Gods together. Can anyone say if City of the Gods is the follow up? It doesn't sound a likely title considering where they should be going from the end of book 3.
jan t
Since this book is called "A Matter of Honor, Book One," it's more than likely the second book will be "A Matter of Honor, Book Two."

I'm currently entering Chapter 17, and I find it better than Trial By Fire. I appreciate the connections between the two books, though! There was a reference to Meleq and to Dr. Kelly, which surprised and delighted me. The publishers care about strands between the books, just like the strands between the episodes.

AmberLM
January 1st, 2005, 01:06 PM
Wow, definitely the best novel of the series so far. Personally I think they should make this episode, it would be an amazing two-parter. I stayed up until 2am because I couldn't put it down and it was worth it. I thought that it was very shippy but then I'm biased (and, quite literally, was probably reading between the lines.) Still, it was a very good read and I have a feeling that the author may be a Sarah McLachlan fan, there seemed to be a few hidden lyrics in there. Or maybe that's just me connecting up imaginary dots.

Do the authors of the new novels hang around Gateworld forums? I would perhaps think so since they're fans. I'd love to read any of their fanfic *hint, hint*

Katkin
January 10th, 2005, 04:14 AM
Wow, definitely the best novel of the series so far. Personally I think they should make this episode, it would be an amazing two-parter. I stayed up until 2am because I couldn't put it down and it was worth it. I thought that it was very shippy but then I'm biased (and, quite literally, was probably reading between the lines.) Still, it was a very good read and I have a feeling that the author may be a Sarah McLachlan fan, there seemed to be a few hidden lyrics in there. Or maybe that's just me connecting up imaginary dots.

Do the authors of the new novels hang around Gateworld forums? I would perhaps think so since they're fans. I'd love to read any of their fanfic *hint, hint*

Hey Amber… both Julie Fortune and Sabine Bauer have fanfic sites: Julie’s can be found if you do a general search for her name; Sabine writes as ‘Doc’ and you can find her stories at www.frondfic.com – along with Sally Reeve, she writes the best fanfiction out there, IMHO but be warned: you’re in for some truly savage Jack-whumping!

Skydiver
January 10th, 2005, 04:47 AM
Doc, aka sabine, has often taken jack whumping to a whole new level

when she was still writing in the fandom, her fic won awards each year

WarriorOfRovac
January 12th, 2005, 12:22 PM
i just got all three in the post

£4.97 each, p and p was free

cant wait to read

O'Neill_4_Carter
January 16th, 2005, 07:05 PM
Hi I was wondering if anyone could tell me if you have to read any books before this one and if so what are there titles and what order are they in?? i have this book on order and can't wait to read but if there is others before it than im gonna have to wait...please advise...

Katkin
January 17th, 2005, 05:02 AM
Hi I was wondering if anyone could tell me if you have to read any books before this one and if so what are there titles and what order are they in?? i have this book on order and can't wait to read but if there is others before it than im gonna have to wait...please advise...


Hi there… I think you can read the books in any order but as Sacrifice Moon takes place in Season 1 it might make sense to read that first even though it was the second title to be published. Enjoy! They’re great. And bear in mind that you can find fanfic by Sabine Bauer [Doc] at frondfic.com and by Sally Malcolm at http://uk.geocities.com/mystories_uk/. Be warned though: Sabine is the past master at Jack-whumping! :)

Katkin
January 17th, 2005, 05:10 AM
Just a thought re the odd typos people have picked up in Fandemonium’s three new Stargate books… as a journalist, I know these can be irritating but even the best proofreader in the world isn’t infallible.

I am just really happy that I can now get such good novelizations of my favourite series. It has long been a pain in the a$$ that most tie-in novels [Stargate, Buffy, whatever] are badly plotted and badly written by authors who obviously have no emotional investment in the show and no interest in the characters. These books have always seemed like a really calculated money-making venture and I think this is one of the reasons why fans have turned to online fanfic.

Obviously Fandemonium is making money too but I say good luck to them – and I certainly feel I can put up with the odd mistake in return for such well-written and tightly plotted fiction. They’re using proven fanfic authors who love the show and know the characters. At last I don’t have to boot up the ibook to find great stories and I’m so looking forward to the next one! :)

Elite Anubis Guard
January 17th, 2005, 07:59 AM
while i do enjoy new adventures, id love to have some novels based off popular episodes.

I agree about fan written books, thats why fandomonuims are so good, theyre written by FAN(domonuims :D )

NearlyCircular
January 17th, 2005, 12:32 PM
I just finished reading this last night, and I’d have to agree with most everyone here that it’s really good. It’s a team story, with everyone represented well. I’m looking forward to the sequel. Katkin, you’re right about most tie-in novels for tv series. I’ve wasted way too much money on those. I had pretty much given up on buying them anymore, especially since I've discovered fan fiction, but the fandemonium people seem to have gotten it right. I think these 3 are much better than the previous SG1 novels, The Price You Pay, etc.

On the down side, I wasn’t happy with the amount of time it took for delivery. I waited until the 3rd book was close to release until I ordered all 3, thinking it might be better to just get one shipment. I ordered on November 13, they weren’t shipped until Dec. 24, and I didn’t receive them until January 8. I knew I’d take a hit on the price, due to shipping to the states and the exchange rate, so that part didn’t surprise me, but the time delay did. This is the first time I’ve ordered from Amazon.com UK and wonder if anyone knows if that’s normal.

David
January 17th, 2005, 02:15 PM
Wow. I'm in midwestern United States and ordering this book from the UK took at most a week and a half.

NearlyCircular
January 17th, 2005, 04:44 PM
Thanks for the info, David. Maybe mine took so long due to the holidays. I'd like to support Gateworld by ordering the next book from them again, but I really hate to wait that long for delivery.

David
January 17th, 2005, 06:05 PM
I ordered a corvette book for my dad that clearly says on the label: Shipped December 14. It didn't get to us until January 8, and it was only three states away. If it's not a first-class item they basically sit it aside until there's room for third-class.

Greesha
January 19th, 2005, 06:22 PM
That's a long time for shipping... I live in the States, and I ordered "Trial By Fire" from Amazon.co.uk and received it in less than a week.

Skydiver
January 21st, 2005, 04:35 AM
I just finished it last night, stayed up late, and i throughly enjoyed it.

there is fantastic angst and tension throughout. a sleezily great villian set, jack confronting his dark past....a little something for everyone

if you want to project ship, there's tons. but none of sam and jack's interactions cross teh line that you'd see on the show. And, i think, if you were to swap sam for daniel, folks would be going gaga over the wonderful 'team' interaction

there's some lovely whumpage and the resulting HC aspect, we get some insight into sam and a part of her character we've never seen before.

there's action going on on all fronts with a strong B storyline going

i think my biggest complaint is that i hit 'to be continued' adn i desperately wanted to keep reading

I enjoyed doc's book but found this one so much better

it is definitely worth the price of admission

Skydiver
January 22nd, 2005, 05:05 PM
city of the gods is not the sequel

book 2 o f Matter of Honor will likely be out in the summer

city of the gods is a stand alone

Elite Anubis Guard
January 23rd, 2005, 02:22 AM
play says its out this month? city of the gods that is?

Skydiver
January 23rd, 2005, 08:00 AM
i don't know about this month.

stargatenovels has yet to publish a release date for the book

as soon as they know something, the'll put up the info and let folks know

Elite Anubis Guard
January 28th, 2005, 02:27 PM
I just read half way through this, its really interesting . It side of Jack we dont usually see and an interesting adventure, cant wait for the rest of the book!

florence
January 29th, 2005, 01:37 PM
I have to agree with everyone here : it's a GREAT book !

Definitely one story that I would like to see on screen. The characters and what's on their minds are well pictured, especially Jack. It's a team story and every character has his/her place. And there's subtle SJ ship, very sweet and well done.

I think it's better than 'Trial by Fire' (I have not read 'Sacrifice Moon' yet).

Can't wait to read the 2nd part :)

Elite Anubis Guard
February 6th, 2005, 07:47 AM
hell of a book, really contrasting starting with the white and endin with the black,

cant wait for part 2!

kyea
March 3rd, 2005, 02:16 AM
I've just read a matter of honour I mean its a great book and all but i can't help keep thinking its all for nothing as Henry Boyd is dead no one seems to remember that they used the same Black Hole in which Henry Boyd is stuck to blow up a sun in season 4 what is going on ??? :S

Skydiver
March 3rd, 2005, 04:48 AM
since the books have to fit in with canon, then yes, chances are jack & co can't save henry
it'll be interesting to see how sally works around that and gets things done

Elite Anubis Guard
March 4th, 2005, 10:12 AM
i wanna see if shell have some frozen aschen on the planet aswell!

Elite Anubis Guard
November 11th, 2005, 02:22 PM
So I just re-read this book and I love it still. She's really good with her characterization.

Albion
November 11th, 2005, 02:33 PM
[quote]as Henry Boyd is dead no one seems to remember that they used the same Black Hole in which Henry Boyd is stuck to blow up a sun in season 4 what is going on ???/quote]

Of course we all know the answer to this one now - if we've read Cost of Honor ;) - I thought the way Sally worked all of that in, was marvellous. Really clever.

Albion :)

Elite Anubis Guard
November 16th, 2005, 08:30 AM
Well I've got the dam thing finally, surprised by its size but love the bookmarks, got two different styles now.

jackspal
January 21st, 2006, 04:40 PM
The book is riddled with grammatical and punctuation errors and typos. But then, increasingly, so are most published novels these days. I notice them, wince over a lot of them, but don't let it get in the way of a good read.

I've heard that the rise in such errors - and they have gotten much worse in just the last five or so years - is due to an increasing reliance by publishers on computerised editing programs, rather than the good old (and seemingly more reliable!) human eye they used to use.

Albion :)
:jack: Most Writers miss a lot of errors because your seeing three lines ahead as you write or read it back -you know it so well you just don't see it. But it's the proof readers and editors that are missing more these days, (not to shift the blame.) The writer is the story teller. The book was one of the best SG-1's:eek:

Elite Anubis Guard
January 22nd, 2006, 01:54 AM
Well City of the Gods has been the only disappointing one. But reading this, you can see why Malcom is their star writer.

WraithWarrior
January 22nd, 2006, 03:14 AM
I read this book in just over a day, I loved it that much. I think it is a brilliant book and unfortunately cannot read the ending to it because the other book aint out yet, at least I dont think so

Elite Anubis Guard
January 22nd, 2006, 04:13 AM
It is. http://www.stargatenovels.com/costofhonor.shtml

WraithWarrior
January 22nd, 2006, 09:16 AM
Thanks, Ive seen that book as well but never really noticed that is says it is the sequal to Matter of Honor.

Thanks again, now I can buy it and read that one :D