Atlantis Makes SG-1 Retarded

[Ripple in Space]

Not going to rehash how stupid Carter became after joining the Expedition, this is about Daniel...

HOW TO SOLVE GALAXY-WIDE ANNIHILATION:

Lost Asgard: We needed to destroy the Wraith in order to start a new settlement in peace. Humans be damned too.

: Well we do possess several Battle Cruisers that are equipped with intergalactic hyperdrives designed by your cousins, not to mention an intergalactic Stargate... And Your home galaxy, Ida is currently unpopulated since the Milky Way/Ida Asgard died off.

Lost Asgard: Really? Okay, you can shut down the Atero Device, just drop us back home.

: Will do!

[RepliVeggie]

Not going to rehash how stupid Carter became after joining the Expedition, this is about Daniel...

HOW TO SOLVE GALAXY-WIDE ANNIHILATION:

Lost Asgard: We needed to destroy the Wraith in order to start a new settlement in peace. Humans be damned too.

: Well we do possess several Battle Cruisers that are equipped with intergalactic hyperdrives designed by your cousins, not to mention an intergalactic Stargate... And Your home galaxy, Ida is currently unpopulated since the Milky Way/Ida Asgard died off.

Lost Asgard: Really? Okay, you can shut down the Atero Device, just drop us back home.

: Will do!

Lost Asgard: Oh yea will you let us continue our experiments on your kind?

: No.

Lost Asgard: Then no thanks well fight it out here.

[Wolf O'Donnell]

Not going to rehash how stupid Carter became after joining the Expedition, this is about Daniel...

HOW TO SOLVE GALAXY-WIDE ANNIHILATION:

Lost Asgard: We needed to destroy the Wraith in order to start a new settlement in peace. Humans be damned too.

: Well we do possess several Battle Cruisers that are equipped with intergalactic hyperdrives designed by your cousins, not to mention an intergalactic Stargate... And Your home galaxy, Ida is currently unpopulated since the Milky Way/Ida Asgard died off.

Lost Asgard: Really? Okay, you can shut down the Atero Device, just drop us back home.

: Will do!

Lost Asgard: Oh yea will you let us continue our experiments on your kind?

: No.

Lost Asgard: Then no thanks well fight it out here.

Both good points.

[Giantevilhead]

The Ida galaxy was mostly consumed by the Replicators. Orilla was the last planet in that galaxy that had neutronium.

[the fifth man]

Both good points.

Yeah, they are.

[An-Alteran]

Yeah, they are.

Yes they were. Very rare on these boards.

However the first was assuming Daniel knew he was arguing with Asgard who held the same moral integrity of the ones we know.
But even then he could have said that.

The second one, I think, would not have been a rational one on the Asgards' part.

They could easily have been far better off with the humans on their side... at least until they rebuilt their civilization... than if they were enemies.

[Buba uognarf]

Maybe the Asgard just wanted to get ride of the Wraith? The Wraith have made their life hell for 10,000 years and would also be a threat. They probably thought its best to get them out of the way.

[Finger13]

Not going to rehash how stupid Carter became after joining the Expedition, this is about Daniel...

HOW TO SOLVE GALAXY-WIDE ANNIHILATION:

Lost Asgard: We needed to destroy the Wraith in order to start a new settlement in peace. Humans be damned too.

: Well we do possess several Battle Cruisers that are equipped with intergalactic hyperdrives designed by your cousins, not to mention an intergalactic Stargate... And Your home galaxy, Ida is currently unpopulated since the Milky Way/Ida Asgard died off.

Lost Asgard: Really? Okay, you can shut down the Atero Device, just drop us back home.

: Will do!

I also wondered why Jackson didn't delve a little further into our relationship with the Asgard. The fact that the MW Asgard left us ALL of their knowledge, along with their shield, beaming, and hyperdrive technology. And the fact that we ourselves saved the Asgard countless times. You'd think that might buy us some brownie points.

The Ida galaxy was mostly consumed by the Replicators. Orilla was the last planet in that galaxy that had neutronium.

Who is to say that these Asgard need neutronium? Considering that they lived on a planet not for its resources but for its toxic environment. I'm sure that they'd take a galaxy full of planets with whatever resources they might contain over a toxic wasteland.

[Ripple in Space]

I also wondered why Jackson didn't delve a little further into our relationship with the Asgard. The fact that the MW Asgard left us ALL of their knowledge, along with their shield, beaming, and hyperdrive technology. And the fact that we ourselves saved the Asgard countless times. You'd think that might buy us some brownie points.

Well going too deep into detail may have been overly risky (Lost Asgard + Asgard High Council Tech = Biggest threat yet!) if they decided to steal it, or claim it as their birthright.

But Daniel should have had a lot of arguing points:

• Your Asgard Brothers Named a Ship After Me
• Your Asgard Brothers Entrusted Me & My Teammates with Their Historical Legacy
• Your Asgard Brothers Entered Us into the Great Alliance
• Together We and Your Asgard Brothers Conquered Three Oppressive Superpower Races much like the Wraith
• You Respected the Ancients, I Ascended and lived among them recently
• There are also Ancients and Nox that I'd count among my friends
• You may have been monitoring the events of Pegasus these past few years... You'll see that every race that's crossed us have payed dearly for it, all of our battles have been decisive victories.
• Our forces have have the most powerful Asgard High Council & Lantean Technologies integrated into them.

Who is to say that these Asgard need neutronium? Considering that they lived on a planet not for its resources but for its toxic environment. I'm sure that they'd take a galaxy full of planets with whatever resources they might contain over a toxic wasteland.

Good point!

[CarnalPIE]

These are great points. I will raise one thing we might want to keep in mind: did you get the feeling that the Dark Asgard didn't have much respect for the good Asgards? The leader kept stressing that the other Asgards weren't around anymore. So I don't know that mentioning the Asgard naming a ship after Daniel or any of the other stuff would have generated any brownie points. He'd have just been all like "Yeah, but where did that get them? Huh? Oh, and consider yourself pwned!"

[Kratos_Goauld_of_War]

See, they shoulda sent O'neill. I mean, he did impress the heck out of OUR Asgard buddies.

[Giantevilhead]

Who is to say that these Asgard need neutronium? Considering that they lived on a planet not for its resources but for its toxic environment. I'm sure that they'd take a galaxy full of planets with whatever resources they might contain over a toxic wasteland.

Maybe the reason why they got their butts kicked so hard by the Travelers was because they didn't have neutronium. Plus it's not just a new planet they need, they need humans to experiment on. They went to the Pegasus galaxy because they wanted to experiment on humans to try to cure their condition.

[YutheGreat]

See, they shoulda sent O'neill. I mean, he did impress the heck out of OUR Asgard buddies.

I agree. Ripple in Space has a pont though. If these guys move back to Ida. There would be no reason to fight them at least for a few hundred years. You see these guys are amoral. Once they've had the time to rebuild their fleets who is to say they aren't going to go for galactic domination. Ends justify the means remember.

[Infinatus]

Not going to rehash how stupid Carter became after joining the Expedition, this is about Daniel...

HOW TO SOLVE GALAXY-WIDE ANNIHILATION:

Lost Asgard: We needed to destroy the Wraith in order to start a new settlement in peace. Humans be damned too.

: Well we do possess several Battle Cruisers that are equipped with intergalactic hyperdrives designed by your cousins, not to mention an intergalactic Stargate... And Your home galaxy, Ida is currently unpopulated since the Milky Way/Ida Asgard died off.

Lost Asgard: Really? Okay, you can shut down the Atero Device, just drop us back home.

: Will do!

Do you expect these Asgard to take Daniel's word at face value? How would you feel if you were from an advanced species, learned that the others of your kind were killed and then that a band of humans apparently have Asgard technology? The Asgard leader already stated that he thought maybe the humans had something to do with the demise of the other Asgard.

[Ripple in Space]

I agree. Ripple in Space has a pont though. If these guys move back to Ida. There would be no reason to fight them at least for a few hundred years. You see these guys are amoral. Once they've had the time to rebuild their fleets who is to say they aren't going to go for galactic domination. Ends justify the means remember.

Thanks, and yeah I thought about that. The thing is... even say that it only takes the Dark Asgard 100 years to rebuild their fleet. In 100 years, the Tau'ri will be that much further into the Asgard & Lantean databases. We know that even without Carter & McKay (Earth's best & brightest), they'll have Mk. 9 Naq Generators in a few decades, powerful enough to power Atlantis' shield!

Also, that will mean 100 more years of Jaffa democracy & unity. That's not to mention that the Ori fleet is now a friend of Earth. So I think 100 years down the road, Earth & her allies will be well equipped to defend themselves.