Gate Sheild

[craigmaceachern]

When the energy buildup in the gate started, I wonder if it ever occured to anyone to raise the gate sheild. We know from experience that the iris on Earth is capable slowing down energy transfer, it would seem reasonable that raising the gate sheild would give Radek a little longer to prepare and possibly to evacuate the tower. It would not have made a great deal of difference, the gate still would have exploded, but it would have been a good idea.

[FallenAngelII]

When the energy buildup in the gate started, I wonder if it ever occured to anyone to raise the gate sheild. We know from experience that the iris on Earth is capable slowing down energy transfer, it would seem reasonable that raising the gate sheild would give Radek a little longer to prepare and possibly to evacuate the tower. It would not have made a great deal of difference, the gate still would have exploded, but it would have been a good idea.

The gate itself was exploding. Rising the Lantean Iris wouldn't have prevented that or even weakened the resulting explosion. The instability in hyperspace caused the gate itself to explode, hyperspace didn't explode.

[The_Carpenter]

When the energy buildup in the gate started, I wonder if it ever occured to anyone to raise the gate sheild. We know from experience that the iris on Earth is capable slowing down energy transfer, it would seem reasonable that raising the gate sheild would give Radek a little longer to prepare and possibly to evacuate the tower. It would not have made a great deal of difference, the gate still would have exploded, but it would have been a good idea.

The city shield with all power being directed to it couldn't contain it.... what makes you think that the far weaker gate shield would have any impact... apart from drawing power from the main shield?

[wkw427]

It would slow down the exploding...

Like when Sokar bombarded the iris with micro thingies.

Iris slowed energy transfer into the gate

Think of hyperspace pumping super powerful asic through a pipe

If you put a lid on the pipe, it slows the acid. It doesn't stop, jsut sloewd

[FallenAngelII]

It would slow down the exploding...

Like when Sokar bombarded the iris with micro thingies.

Iris slowed energy transfer into the gate

Think of hyperspace pumping super powerful asic through a pipe

If you put a lid on the pipe, it slows the acid. It doesn't stop, jsut sloewd

The energy transfer is going directly into the gate. Putting an iris in front of it wouldn't stop or slow it down.

[apollo22]

The city shield with all power being directed to it couldn't contain it.... what makes you think that the far weaker gate shield would have any impact... apart from drawing power from the main shield?

i know this is pure speculation at this point because the epi hasn't aired yet but i have read some other posts where people don't really think that the shield failed. it was said that radek said that the emitters would fail before the shield so maybe in order to keep the emitters from failing radek opened up the back of the shield so the force of the blast was directed out the back hence the explosion.because form what we know of exploding stargates (redemption) the explosions are quit powerful and are able to be seen from in the atmosphere form 3 million miles away so if that was the case and the entire shield collapsed the entire city should have been vaporized

[FallenAngelII]

i know this is pure speculation at this point because the epi hasn't aired yet but i have read some other posts where people don't really think that the shield failed. it was said that radek said that the emitters would fail before the shield so maybe in order to keep the emitters from failing radek opened up the back of the shield so the force of the blast was directed out the back hence the explosion.because form what we know of exploding stargates (redemption) the explosions are quit powerful and are able to be seen from in the atmosphere form 3 million miles away so if that was the case and the entire shield collapsed the entire city should have been vaporized

The explosion had been weakened. Radek specifically said that for every second the explosion is contained, it's weakened. And opening the back of the shield would've allowed the entire explosion to come out all at once. It's the same as the shield collapsing except it's directed in a single direction, it doesn't randomly get weakened.

And if it's strong enough to vaporize the entire city, it would still have been strong enough to vaporize the entire city. Seeing as how the gate exploding is the equivalent of 12 nuclear bombs, it's safe to say it had just been considerably weakened.

[craigmaceachern]

The gate itself was exploding. Rising the Lantean Iris wouldn't have prevented that or even weakened the resulting explosion. The instability in hyperspace caused the gate itself to explode, hyperspace didn't explode.

I wasn't suggesting that the iris shield would prevent the explosion itself, merely that it "might" delay the explosion. Once the gate exploded the iris wouldn't do anything productive.

[jelgate]

That theory only works it the energy is traveling through the wormhole. Somehow the Attero device attacks the gate itself and not the wormhole. The iris shield would not work as it only cover the wormhole

[FallenAngelII]

I wasn't suggesting that the iris shield would prevent the explosion itself, merely that it "might" delay the explosion. Once the gate exploded the iris wouldn't do anything productive.

This:

That theory only works it the energy is traveling through the wormhole. Somehow the Attero device attacks the gate itself and not the wormhole. The iris shield would not work as it only cover the wormhole

[craigmaceachern]

That theory only works it the energy is traveling through the wormhole. Somehow the Attero device attacks the gate itself and not the wormhole. The iris shield would not work as it only cover the wormhole

The effects of the attero device do not directly attack the stargate itself. The power build up comes from inside the event horizon, and then transfers to the gate itself where it keeps building up until the explosion.

Theoretically, the iris sheild might have no effect whatsoever on the build up because the energy isn't coming from another gate. On the other hand the energy is coming from inside the event horizon and might be transferred to the gate in the same way as energy transferred through a wormhole.

Since we can't go out and buy a copy of Stargate Wormhole Physics for Dummies, we can't actually be sure if this would work or not.


Excerpt from the transcript:

CHUCK: We've got a power spike in the event horizon.

ZELENKA: What? Power's building from the Gate? No-no-no-no. (He laughs disbelievingly while typing.) That-that can't happen.

(He stares at his screen, then activates his headset.)

ZELENKA: Colonel, do not lower the Jumper into the Gateroom.

SHEPPARD (over radio): Why not?

ZELENKA: Well, for some reason there is an unprecedented power build-up within the Gate.

TEYLA: Power build-up from where?

ZELENKA: It's coming from within the event horizon. Oh, no. This is very, very bad for us.

[NKDietrich]

Because they didn't write it that way. Seriously. Would the episode have been more enjoyable if they went "Oh great, we raised the shield and now we have hours and hours to sit here and fail to find a solution." (Since the writers wanted the gate to blow up anyway.)

One of the first things to remember is that it is just a TV show. Trying to formulate logical reasons for things isn't going to end up being productive. Whatever happens, happens because they feel the episode plays out better that way.

In this case I'm not sure dragging out the last scene longer would have added to the episode. Im pretty sure it would have ruined the effect.

[NIKIN]

I think, whether it would have worked or not, they should have raised the shield because at least one person there must know the events of Redemption, and if energy is coming from the event horizon wouldn't it make sense to try and stop it. How long would it really have taken for Shepherd to say "raise the gate shield" and have someone push a button while Zelenka tries to figure out what is happening