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    The Atlantis gate was the only one that could dial the MW!

    it was mentioned many times that the gate in Atlantis is special and is the only one in the Pegasus galaxy that can dial to other galaxies. that's why the Wraith wanted it so much.

    now that this special gate is gone the Atlantis team would be unable to dial Earth with a different gate no matter how much energy they have.

    this means they would have to either rely on ships or rebuild the midway station.

    #2
    Again...it wasn't the Atlantis Gate its the Atlantis DHD that has the control crystal which made it able to dial earth...I believe the episode "home" dealt with this very problem
    "I'm being extremely clever up here and there's no one to stand around looking impressed! What's the point in having you all?!" - The Doctor (#11)

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      #3
      Yeah, Shpinxinator is correct. "Home" physically shows Rodney remove it from Atlantis' DHD (see the transcript quote). So as long as the blast didn't completely destroy that part of the room, (which doesn't appear to be the case) it should be fine.

      LATER. CONTROL ROOM. Rodney comes up from under the Atlantis D.H.D. panel.

      McKAY: There -- that's it. (He is holding the control crystal.)

      SHEPPARD: So how easy will it be to put that thing in the other D.H.D.?

      McKAY: The Atlantis D.H.D. is unique -- it's not like there'll be an empty slot waiting for us to plug it in.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Xaeden View Post
        Yeah, Shpinxinator is correct. "Home" physically shows Rodney remove it from Atlantis' DHD (see the transcript quote).
        Hehehe that never gets old
        "I'm being extremely clever up here and there's no one to stand around looking impressed! What's the point in having you all?!" - The Doctor (#11)

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          #5
          Originally posted by Shpinxinator View Post
          Again...it wasn't the Atlantis Gate its the Atlantis DHD that has the control crystal which made it able to dial earth...I believe the episode "home" dealt with this very problem
          if you can't dial another galaxy without the special control crystal in the DHD, how come Earth can dial other galaxies without any DHD crystals at all ?

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            #6
            Originally posted by AscendedThor View Post
            if you can't dial another galaxy without the special control crystal in the DHD, how come Earth can dial other galaxies without any DHD crystals at all ?
            Probably because we built our own dialing computer and Jack did some modifications to it when he was first under the influence of the headsucker so he could dial Ida and get help from the Asgard.
            Daniel to Thor: Wait, you're actually saying you need someone dumber then you are?
            Jack: You may have come to the right place.

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              #7
              Originally posted by AscendedThor View Post
              if you can't dial another galaxy without the special control crystal in the DHD, how come Earth can dial other galaxies without any DHD crystals at all ?
              Ancient maybe make changes to Pegasus galaxys gate, that Wraith are not allowed came to other calaxies. Or someone make changes to SGC:s computers.
              Asgard in memoriam

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                #8
                Well for one the Earth DHD is home built...so whatever the control crystal does is probably supplemented by the "McGayver"ed DHD
                "I'm being extremely clever up here and there's no one to stand around looking impressed! What's the point in having you all?!" - The Doctor (#11)

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by AscendedThor View Post
                  if you can't dial another galaxy without the special control crystal in the DHD, how come Earth can dial other galaxies without any DHD crystals at all ?
                  Because Earth has its only dialing program which overrides security measures built into the gate. Like the one that won't allow the 8th chevron to lock without the control crystal.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Xaeden View Post
                    Because Earth has its only dialing program which overrides security measures built into the gate. Like the one that won't allow the 8th chevron to lock without the control crystal.
                    so 10 years ago puny humans with no advanced tech managed to overide the gate, yet the wraith, the race who defeated the ancients, can't do it?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by AscendedThor View Post
                      so 10 years ago puny humans with no advanced tech managed to overide the gate, yet the wraith, the race who defeated the ancients, can't do it?
                      9 years ago Jack obtained the ancient library in his head with ALL of their advanced tech knowledge. He was the one that unlocked the entire gate system as well as redesigned our computers and invented a power source capable of opening a wormhole to another galaxy (the Asgard's)

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by AscendedThor View Post
                        so 10 years ago puny humans with no advanced tech managed to overide the gate, yet the wraith, the race who defeated the ancients, can't do it?
                        The Wraith never had a reason to. DHDs work best for them and up until the start of season 1 they never knew that they if they could get the 8th chervon to work they could access a gate network filled with Humans. However, even if they did do that, they also need a Milky address and a power source that they don't have access to (or 2+ power sources if their plan is to ship Humans back to the Pegasus galaxy for consumption via the gate).

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Xaeden View Post
                          The Wraith never had a reason to. DHDs work best for them and up until the start of season 1 they never knew that they if they could get the 8th chervon to work they could access a gate network filled with Humans. However, even if they did do that, they also need a Milky address and a power source that they don't have access to (or 2+ power sources if their plan is to ship Humans back to the Pegasus galaxy for consumption via the gate).
                          the specific reason for the Wraith going after Atlantis in the first season (when Atlantis didn't yet have any ZPMs) was to take over tis gate so they could use it to get to the milky way which they couldn't do from any other gate in the milky way.
                          if it was just a matter of programming, surely the wraith would be able to do it. they did after all managed to get to the midway station.

                          so its pretty clear that without the specific chrystal you can't go to another galaxy.
                          O'niell only built a powersource, he didn't create any control crystals, so how did the earth gate with no DHD managed to do it?

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                            #14
                            If the Pegasus gates could manually dial and if the Wraith had a ZPM then theortically the Wraith could reach Earth but due to the digital nature of the Pegasus gate thats not possible. The SGC's computer basically a manual dial on the way it locks chevrons vs the way the DHD looks chevrons
                            Originally posted by aretood2
                            Jelgate is right

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                              #15
                              Maybe with the MW stargates, you don't need a crystal to allow you access to another galaxy, all you need is a powerful generator to power the gate. It's not like in the MW, there's a powerful enemy threatening the lives of humans and the Ancients there. The Goa'uld only steal technology so if they don't know of the knowledge of other galaxies then they won't bother seeking that info out. Like look at Anubis and "Lost City", once the SGC found out of the possibility of the city that could threaten Anubis, he goes all out to try and locate it.

                              And with the PG, I can see why they need the crystal to stop the Wraith from accessing other galaxies.

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