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Vala_M
September 27th, 2008, 08:29 AM
Ok, obviously, the get a new gate and the control room area gets fixed but how? I hope they explain it, there are no more Asurans this time around and I doubt they can rebuild it the way it was.

Or do The Asgard give them a new gate and fix everything up?

This is something too big to just be swept under the rug and magically fixed like the Atlantis stain glass windows were fixed at the beginning of season 4.

Vala,

stargatelvr
September 27th, 2008, 08:49 AM
Arn't the asguard gone?

I think that just the glass has been broken. I don't think that everything is destroyed or anything.

stargatelvr
September 27th, 2008, 08:51 AM
Arn't the asguard gone?

I think that just the glass has been broken. I don't think that everything is destroyed or anything.

Oh. I get it now. the Asgard? really?

Col. Matarrese
September 27th, 2008, 10:26 AM
The Asgard

Are a spoiler from 5x11...there's a thread about it, I think...

Jeffala
September 27th, 2008, 10:26 AM
Yeah, based on the explosion, there wasn't much damage to the structure, just the force of the blast blowing out the windows and humans can replace windows. Other stuff might need a buffing, but it's probably not a huge problem.

JackHarkness_Hot
September 27th, 2008, 10:41 AM
Yeah, based on the explosion, there wasn't much damage to the structure, just the force of the blast blowing out the windows and humans can replace windows. Other stuff might need a buffing, but it's probably not a huge problem.

I don't know, the explosion was quite large, if the force was able to blast out the windows with a fiery blast afterwards, the control room must have been enveloped in the blast meaning, though the structure is still standing, the monitors, control panels inside are probably damaged beyond repair.

But then this is sci-fi, can anything be "beyond repair"?

The gate can be replaced by nicking another gate elsewhere and installing it, which I hope we get to see as well.

Xaeden
September 27th, 2008, 11:09 AM
I suspect that Zelenka just waited until the last possible second before the shield was going to fail and then had it fall back to protect the control area along with Sheppard and himself. That way the shield was able to remain up since less strain was put on it by having the explosion go outward. So the only damage should be to the area around the gate if that's indeed what happened. What I really wonder about is what they are going to do to protect the gate now. Will they construct an iris or will they use a non-Ancient shield? Unless they can somehow find another shielded gate anything they replace it with should be inferior.

JackHarkness_Hot
September 27th, 2008, 11:17 AM
If that is how they protected the control room, then that's more realistic and comprehensible than some of the "lamer" escape routines. Like in "Midway", Sheppard just so happen to be able to get into an EV suit with no assistance whilst dying for some oxygen, that was being depleted.

With a new gate, maybe on the database, there are schematics on emitters that can be installed onto the gate for an iris-shield, or if they make a manual one would be equally as cool.

RepliVeggie
September 27th, 2008, 12:23 PM
I suspect that Zelenka just waited until the last possible second before the shield was going to fail and then had it fall back to protect the control area along with Sheppard and himself. That way the shield was able to remain up since less strain was put on it by having the explosion go outward. So the only damage should be to the area around in the gate if that's indeed what happened. What I really wonder about is what they are going to do to protect the gate now. Will they construct an iris or will they use a non-Ancient shield? Unless they can somehow find another shielded gate anything they replace it with should be inferior.


Awesome idea man. I didn't think of that. I am sure Raddick did that.

elbo
September 27th, 2008, 12:33 PM
Are you suggesting the Stargate was destroyed? In this case shouldn't the force of the explosion destroy at least the entire city? I think is more probable the Gate survived, the explosion wasn't powerfull enough to destroy it and shield minimised the damage to the tower structure.

Col. Matarrese
September 27th, 2008, 12:34 PM
Are you suggesting the Stargate was destroyed? In this case shouldn't the force of the explosion destroy at least the entire city? I think is more probable the Gate survived, the explosion wasn't powerfull enough to destroy it and shield minimised the damage to the tower structure.

I think the whole explosion WAS the Stargate exploding, and the only reason the blast didn't destroy the whole tower was because the shield was able to diffuse enough energy to deaden the blast a little bit...or rather a lot...

RepliVeggie
September 27th, 2008, 12:35 PM
Are you suggesting the Stargate was destroyed? In this case shouldn't the force of the explosion destroy at least the entire city? I think is more probable the Gate survived, the explosion wasn't powerfull enough to destroy it and shield minimised the damage to the tower structure.

Did you not hear Raddick say the shield was dissipating the blast? It was probably dissipated mostly before it exploded.

JackHarkness_Hot
September 27th, 2008, 12:36 PM
Elbo, in the episode, Radek placed a shield over the gate as it exploded to contain the blast, the control room was evacuated and towards the very end of the episode, he said the shield emitter-things weren't holding and ended with a massive explosion at the gate room.

Vala_M
September 27th, 2008, 02:17 PM
The gate is what EXPLODED, not energy coming through it. AND in the preview for "The Lost Tribe" you can see the Atlantis expedition members walking in a charred gate room so it was more than just the gate exploding.

Screenshot from scifi trailer for "The Lost Tribe" of the charred gate room.

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/20/charredgateroomkx2.png

Vala,

Jeffala
September 27th, 2008, 03:01 PM
A power washer and a buffer'll take care of that. ;)

QuantumDragon
September 27th, 2008, 03:02 PM
JUST CHARRED?

the gate turned into i mini sun for a few minutes how is it just charred?

Malakriss
September 27th, 2008, 03:16 PM
Rewatch the scene if you can (love my SciFi HD + DVR btw). The blast wasn't that big, it was enough to blow out all of the windows and cause small fires, but the tower remained structurally intact. The shield diffused enough of the blast to limit it to the gate room.

The theory about Roddick shifting the shield at the last second to protect the control level is on target and realistic. Atlantis will however need a new stargate.

QuantumDragon
September 27th, 2008, 03:25 PM
i did and it didn't look like just the glass it looked like a good bit of the supporting walls around the glass went too but i see what you are saying about the tower not getting like nuked or anything

wraith form Replicator
September 27th, 2008, 03:26 PM
thinking of who built the end game thing could there be time travel to fix the tower

Vala_M
September 27th, 2008, 03:45 PM
JUST CHARRED?

the gate turned into i mini sun for a few minutes how is it just charred?

I said the GATE ROOM got charred and burned up, NOT the gate. The gate is gone, destroyed, vaporized, etc.

And yeah, maybe the shield was put in place over the control room as promo pictures show the control room in decent shape except for broken glass and such.

Vala,

Jeffala
September 27th, 2008, 03:57 PM
Based on what I saw, after the glass was blown out, there were "struts" that ran the length of the windows. The power of the explosion wasn't sufficient to visibly damage them. If they're still intact, then the explosion couldn't have been that powerful. Also, the explosion didn't create any visible lasting fire in the building. It seemed to explode and then go out.

The shield most likely allowed the explosion to dissipate sufficiently that it was only cosmetic and equipment damage and not major structural damage to the tower.

Stargate_atlantis-
September 27th, 2008, 06:10 PM
is it just me or was that a really great episode of SGA???

I really cant see how they can axe SGA when it is like this... Its so amazing. When all hope seemed loss, this brings some light to it all!!!