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Lenonn
November 15th, 2004, 08:04 AM
http://www.mediaweek.com/mediaweek/columns/column_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000719388


-More Stargate Atlantis and Stargate SG-1:
Sci Fi Channel has renewed dramas Stargate Atlantis and Stargate SG-1, with production on 20 new episodes for each series set to begin in March 2005. The new episodes will debut this summer.

Major Fischer
November 15th, 2004, 08:27 AM
Good signs, I wonder when they will make the official announcement.

prion
November 15th, 2004, 08:31 AM
Zap2it.com reports

http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271|91811|1|,00.html

Sci Fi Renews 'Stargate' Pair
(Monday, November 15 08:30 AM)


LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) Fresh off its highest rated summer and early fall ever, the Sci Fi Channel is renewing two of the shows that helped jump-start its ratings. The cable network has ordered a second season of "Stargate Atlantis" and a ninth season of "Stargate SG-1."

Both dramas come from MGM Television Entertainment and will begin production in March 2005 or 20-episode seasons to premiere in the summer of 2005.

"Stargate Atlantis" premiered in July to an audience of more than 4.2 million viewers, breaking numerous Sci Fi records. The show's stars, including Joe Flanigan, Torri Higginson, David Hewlett, Rainbow Sun Francks, Rachel Luttrell and Paul McGillion, are all signed on to return in the second season.

Many of the records that "Atlantis" broke were originally held by "SG-1," which will tie "The X-Files" as the longest-running sci-fi drama series on American television when it returns for its ninth installment, according to Sci Fi. The cable network will only say that MGM is in negotiations with the show's stars to return.
Robert C. Cooper and "SG-1" co-creator Brad Wright will continue to serve as executive producers on both shows.

Although Sci Fi is already looking forward to the future seasons of the "Stargate" franchises, there are still new episodes of both series ready to go in January 2005. That month will also see the premiere of the new series adaptation of "Battlestar Galactica."

tara3583
November 15th, 2004, 08:48 AM
Great news and really pleased they have come
out now and made it official as i was begining
to think they would wait untill the next mag
was out before confirming it all.

Anubis
November 15th, 2004, 08:52 AM
If this information is so, then I'm very happy. I was certainly expecting a second season of Atlantis, but uncertain of a ninth season of SG1. It will be very interesting to learn more. :)

berenikee
November 15th, 2004, 08:52 AM
Well, thats great!

KatG
November 15th, 2004, 08:53 AM
Excellent news.

*does a happy dance*

jantreeuk1
November 15th, 2004, 08:56 AM
It's on the SCI-FI site just look under Stargate - What's New :D .
jan t

Ugly Pig
November 15th, 2004, 09:10 AM
Woo hoo! It's official! I'm dissappointed that RDA will only be in a few episodes (if that is indeed the case), but this is still great news!! :D PARTY!!


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Melyanna
November 15th, 2004, 09:15 AM
A link for those who want it:
http://scifi.com/stargate/press/press_05.html

Interestingly, it confirmed that Joe Flanigan, Torri Higginson, David Hewlett, Rainbow Sun Francks, Rachel Luttrell, and Paul McGillion would be back, but that they're still in negotiations with the cast of SG-1. And production is set to begin in March, not February as in years past.

MartoufMarty
November 15th, 2004, 09:15 AM
Whoohoo! Season 2 of Atlantis!!

Oh yeah, and yay for SG-1... :P

Replicarter
November 15th, 2004, 09:15 AM
Lol, there are three posts about this, its reported everywhere, but still, thanks for posting.

Replicarter
November 15th, 2004, 09:17 AM
This has just been confirmed in this thread :) http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=5914 thanks for posting though.

Shipperahoy
November 15th, 2004, 09:18 AM
I've merged the 3 threads on this topic that were in this folder into this one thread and changed the title. Thanks to everyone who reported the news.

Shipperahoy
Gateworld Forum Moderator

keshou
November 15th, 2004, 09:21 AM
Congrats on the renewal for SG-1. It is certainly an achievement to be going into the 9th year of production. Interesting that they're still in negotiations for the original cast. Doesn't mention anyone being added to the cast.

Well whatever happens I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it will turn out well.

And great news for Atlantis! It certainly deserves a second season and I'm looking forward to further adventures of the Atlantis crew. :D


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Replicarter
November 15th, 2004, 09:22 AM
Oh, well that was confusing, i was in on thread on minit, then this, anyway, thanks for merging. :D

MartoufMarty
November 15th, 2004, 09:23 AM
Hehehe. I always find it kind of fun when threads get merged lol.

Ugly Pig
November 15th, 2004, 09:26 AM
Congrats to those who are happy to have SG-1 at any cost. I hope you don't wind up regretting it. :)
For the record, I'm happy about this because I am assuming (perhaps prematurely) that the whole cast will be back, including RDA (if only in a few episodes). I don't want SG-1 at any cost.

Wass
November 15th, 2004, 09:31 AM
Great news for every one weather youre a Atlantis or SG-1 fan, have you all notice that there are going to be only 20 episodes again. Are we seeing a new trend by all channels where they are cutting down on number episodes in a season.

By the way is there another link where you can read the report because the link on top of this thread is showing a blank white page.

Wass
November 15th, 2004, 09:32 AM
Never mine the links working it's my fire wall software.

Major Fischer
November 15th, 2004, 09:33 AM
Great news for every one weather youre a Atlantis or SG-1 fan, have you all notice that there are going to be only 20 episodes again. Are we seeing a new trend by all channels where they are cutting down on number episodes in a season.

By the way is there another link where you can read the report because the link on top of this thread is showing a blank white page.

I think that's still a consession to the fact that they are producing 40 episodes in a year.

Janus
November 15th, 2004, 09:36 AM
A ninth season !! Yoehoe !!! Great !!! Terrific !!
I am really happy that both Atlantis and SG-1 are going to keep going.

Wass
November 15th, 2004, 09:41 AM
I think that's still a consession to the fact that they are producing 40 episodes in a year.

I suppose your right I never looked at like that.

Jonisa
November 15th, 2004, 10:34 AM
I think this is wonderful news. Great news for all you Atlantis watchers, and it gives me another year to try to get into that show, and I'm thrilled that there will be another year of SG-1.

:: Does happy dance::

morjana
November 15th, 2004, 10:45 AM
http://www.mediaweek.com/mediaweek/columns/column_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000719388


Woo-hoo!

What wonderful news!

(Does the Renewal Dance of Joy!)

Thank you so much for sharing the news!

Morjana

Andron
November 15th, 2004, 11:08 AM
That's the greatest news for a long time! I can't believe it! ;)
Now I hope that season 9 of SG-1 will be as good as season 8 or even better!
I'm almost happier about the second season for Atlantis which awesome!

Btw here's the link to the official news http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2004-11/15/13.00.sfc

crowhop
November 15th, 2004, 11:11 AM
I'll hold my yippees to a minimum until we get more word on which of the cast members will be re-upping - and to what extent.
That applies not so much for the Atlantis crew but for SG-1. If RDA does bow out as has been hinted around and Amanda has her hands full with diaper changing early in the season, one wonders if the designation SG-1 is going to more closely reflect the number of team members. Coming up with a long string of Daniel and Teal'c-centric story lines wouldn't be horrible, but it just won't be the same.
Sigh. Just to spoiled with having the Fab Four around for so long, I guess.

Major Fischer
November 15th, 2004, 11:17 AM
I highly doubt that AT will be missing or light in many if any episodes. There are a dozen or more shooting tricks including simply shooting her scenes for multiple episodes at one time and allowing her to bring her baby to the set.

They've obviously looked at making those considerations already, as the shooting start date has been moved from Feb. to March.

Hyperspace
November 15th, 2004, 11:48 AM
Good news! So Far!

I hope the producers find a way to divvy up the work so they don't suffer overload.

DownFallAngel
November 15th, 2004, 11:51 AM
I guess 20 is the number they are sticking for for now. I can't wait for SGA-2, but SG1-9....I'm a little scepticle on.

Andy867
November 15th, 2004, 11:53 AM
I about did some unsanitary things (if you catch my drift, not literally I hope) when I saw the news.. I had a strong feeling that there was a good announcement on the main page, but wanted to know what this feeling as about. I am definitely all for a season 9, especially since I have said in the past, which Greenburg reitirrated at teh London Film And Comic Con this past week in which Season 9 would deal with stories that have yet to be wrapped up, such as the Furling, confirmation of teh Tollan annihilation, Asgard and their current situation, and most importantly, whether or not O'Neill gets a dog.

TheHomegaMan
November 15th, 2004, 11:54 AM
YES! I'm very, very, VERY pleased to hear about Atlantis getting a second season. At least the snark in the SG Universe won't be gone forever.

As for Season 9, I'm having some misgivings. My first response to announcing S9 wasn't elation, but caution. I don't like that they're still negotiating with the cast, and considering what Greenburg said about RDA being in 4 episodes, that concerns me as well. I guess as long as SG-1 doesn't pull an Earth: Final Conflict or X-Files it'll be OK. Hopefully.

Like I said, loads of happy dancing for SG:A, even if it was pretty much a foregone conclusion, and caution over SG-1.


Oh yeah, and good luck to all involved!

Teal'c
November 15th, 2004, 11:54 AM
Well, the seasons start later than they used to (July and not June this year), they had to get a move on early this year to start Atlantis.

Anyway, I'm ever hopeful and deluded that this is the perfect opportunity to bring Jonas back :P

JediTrilobite
November 15th, 2004, 12:05 PM
The SciFi Wire also posted an announcement.

Woohoo!

.:Lemon:.
November 15th, 2004, 12:22 PM
This is really great news :D My life would not be complete without SG-1 or Atlantis!

MrsThor
November 15th, 2004, 12:26 PM
Well I can't say I'm not happy about Season 9 - cos I am - but I have some doubts. I mean, if Jack's only gonna be a in few episodes, and Carter won't be around too much (what with Amanda Tapping's kid and all) I don't know... In my opinion Stargate will loose a part of its charme if there's no Jack around giving sarcastic comments and if there's no Carter around giving you headache (or should I say fron-ache? Sorry, been watching S7 again) with her endless technobabble.
That is my opinion of course and hey, who am I? :p ;)

Greetings,
Mrs Thor

greytop
November 15th, 2004, 12:27 PM
:) :) :D :D :D :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

Beatrice Otter
November 15th, 2004, 12:31 PM
I highly doubt that AT will be missing or light in many if any episodes. There are a dozen or more shooting tricks including simply shooting her scenes for multiple episodes at one time and allowing her to bring her baby to the set.

They've obviously looked at making those considerations already, as the shooting start date has been moved from Feb. to March.

Yeah. Besides, when the pregnancy was announced, didn't AT have a quote somewhere about how the timing was perfect, that she'd be just starting to show as they wrapped for S8, and her due date was just a couple weeks before the projected start of filming for S9?

Beatrice Otter
November 15th, 2004, 12:34 PM
A link for those who want it:
http://scifi.com/stargate/press/press_05.html

Interestingly, it confirmed that Joe Flanigan, Torri Higginson, David Hewlett, Rainbow Sun Francks, Rachel Luttrell, and Paul McGillion would be back, but that they're still in negotiations with the cast of SG-1. And production is set to begin in March, not February as in years past.

As to "ongoing negotiations," well, that's interesting. Because when they're talking about major people leaving and possibly bringing in other people, you never know what the result will be. I mean, MASH got _better_ when they replaced some of the early key players--the cast they ended up with was far stronger, and allowed them to grow as a dramatic series rather than pure comedy, and that was a huge reason for the show's staying power as a classic series. Then there're shows like ER, which started sliding when early key players got replaced, but were still decent shows. Then you've got the X-Files, in which everything went to hell. Now, TPTB on Stargate have proven themselves well able to handle _one_ character leaving and being replaced (Jonas Quinn), but can they do it a second time? OTOH, if they _don't_ do something to freshen the show up (as adding new characters has the possibility to do), will they slide into a creative slump and start to stagnate? (BTW, I like both S7 and S8; it's not that the show is stagnating, but that it's genuinely going in a new direction. But there's only so far they can go in this direction before things get stale, and they're getting close to that limit.)

Taonas
November 15th, 2004, 12:41 PM
Woohoo!!! Sweet!!!! Atlantis renewed!!!!

As for SG1 season 9... I just hope that it's ending is worthy of it's name... Also hope that it doesn't become what the X-Files did.

But still, yay for season 9!

elhSG1
November 15th, 2004, 12:46 PM
I guess I'm a bit skeptical on a season 9 for SG1, I'll definately watch it but if RDA is barely in it, it just won't be the same. I know a lot of people think the show can carry on without him but I know the episodes that I thought were boring were the ones where he was completely missing from. I'm hoping that they go back and tie up a lot of stories that were left open during the past years, that will make it more enjoyable for me. I don't want a bunch of episodes like Affinity, I'll take a clip show before another episode like that one.

Larry
November 15th, 2004, 12:49 PM
I respect the folks that think that SG-1 is at the end of the line and needs to go out after this year. I've stated this before, and I'll do it now. I'd rather have Stargate SG-1 at 60% of what it once was over basically everything else that is on TV. Nothing else can come close in my opinion. Hopefully they'll be able to negotiate a few more episodes with RDA, and maybe agree that season 9 will be the last year and do some big stuff.

Jannis_Equinox
November 15th, 2004, 12:54 PM
Hi there,

woah, i am really glad that both shows got renewed :D and i am really looking forward to them. I just checked with tvtome and noticed that sg-1 is going to get almost 200 episodes :eek: (194 Episodes exactly, and with threads maybe beeing on double length, 195; well x-files got 201, but if we count the lowdowns and the pilot for atlantis, it will top the x-files, hmm but who really cares!!!)

i wonder why they stuck with 20 eps, i heard somewhere that the budget for season 8 had been reduced to save some money to keep the quality up (hmm wonder why - any infos on that?). what changed over the course of the seasons, when the ratings are stagnating or relatively high on their standards??

is there any way, other than buying the dvds, to help the show from across the atlantic?

oh man, for crying out loud i could cry very loud, amen :)

So have fun, cu

Jannis_Equinox

Serebii
November 15th, 2004, 01:11 PM
I'm ecstatic with the news.

Watching Season 8 lately I have been thinking how I'ld prefer more SG1 to Atlantis. Atlantis just doesn't feel right when I watch it :s

But if RDA is going to have a reduced schedule i.e. 4 eps this season, then theoretically they could do a new cast member to replace him. Here is my idea:

Instead of bringing a new guy in like they did with Jonas then Maybe the Tok'ra get wiped out. Except for Jacob and he gets command of the SGC somehow

Stranger things have happened :p

Elwe Singollo
November 15th, 2004, 01:21 PM
I'm am absolutely happy!!! At this moment of time, i would be glad if RDA would at least do 1 episode. :D

Ugly Pig
November 15th, 2004, 01:44 PM
You know what... I was as excited as anyone about the official confirmation of season 9, but I can't help but still feel somewhat skeptical. JM has already said that the end of season 8 could function as a series conclusion if there was no renewal, so I'm sure I could've been happy with that. But now that it will continue, there is every possibility that it will be harder for the show to end on a high note. As I said in the thread about RDA's limited involvement for season 9, this is the first time that I have mixed feelings about the renewal of the show. Despite my dancing earlier in this thread, this is still the case. I'm happy that SG-1 will continue, but I fear that it may dissappoint me this time. Until I see confirmation that no main characters (the big four) will be written out, and none added, I don't think I will be rid of this fear anytime soon... :(

Thankfully, I have no such fears for Atlantis. I am 100% thrilled that it will continue - but then again, the entire cast has already been confirmed.

Jolinarsam
November 15th, 2004, 02:08 PM
Whoo hoo! Whoo hoo! *Jumps up and down*

I'm sooo happy! Yay for SG-1! Wasn't expecting them to get renewed. Of course that seems to happen every year, but I'm not complaining. They could keep doing that for another 20 yrs and I wouldn't mind. ;)

A lot of people are worried this season won't be the same but I'd rather have my favorite show as long as possible rather than none at all. Plus I'm sure TPTB can pull the show through another great season as they have all these years.

Major Fischer
November 15th, 2004, 02:12 PM
Not sure how well this will go over...

SG-1

I hope RDA doesn't come back as a series regular in season nine. He's a fine actor and a fine character but his heart hasn't been in the part for three years now and it has harmed the series and handicapped the writers. IMO he has been sleep walking through episodes, making Jack appear to be silly and indecisive instead of the strong and complex character he has been early in the series.

I don't think the writing is inherently shakey beyond that they have had to reach so badly in some cases this season to justify including or excluding Jack in episodes and it has harmed the credibility of the series. I realize that many of passionate fans feel that RDA is SG1, and I can respect those feelings, however I believe he is overrated as a "draw" for mainstream television audiences (and no, forum posters are NOT mainstream and we do not represent the fanbase).

I believe that those kinds of crediblity and a committment issues set aside with the absence of RDA will allow the series to return to credibility in my mind. I believe Amanda Tapping, Christopher Judge, and Michael Shanks can carry the series forward, and I certainly think new characters will be added in. The most rabid of Daniel fans and the most rabid of Sam fans seem to think that one or the other is somehow a magically superior character who could carry the show alone, but it's important to remember that these are fans reactions and not those of the actors. I have gotten very warry of seeing fans attack each other and the actors when I know full well that the actors themselves would be horrified at the behavior and implications. As I said, many people will disagree, but that is the way I feel.

Atlantis

Oddly, my only ambivolent feelings about Atlantis have to do with casting as well. The show, IMO, has too many regulars to focus on effectively. While I love Beckett, the implication that they are moving him to the main cast worries me, especially as I have yet to see any indication (the Defiant One not withstanding) that there will be significant Ford character developement this season.

The writers need to decide if they will continue on this track, or not, and if they do, they need to ask themselves if he is really a main character.

All opinions expressed above are my own, and my own feelings alone.

astronomicalchick
November 15th, 2004, 02:44 PM
Not sure how well this will go over...

SG-1

I hope RDA doesn't come back as a series regular in season nine. He's a fine actor and a fine character but his heart hasn't been in the part for three years now and it has harmed the series and handicapped the writers. IMO he has been sleep walking through episodes, making Jack appear to be silly and indecisive instead of the strong and complex character he has been early in the series.

I don't think the writing is inherently shakey beyond that they have had to reach so badly in some cases this season to justify including or excluding Jack in episodes and it has harmed the credibility of the series. I realize that many of passionate fans feel that RDA is SG1, and I can respect those feelings, however I believe he is overrated as a "draw" for mainstream television audiences (and no, forum posters are NOT mainstream and we do not represent the fanbase).

I believe that those kinds of crediblity and a committment issues set aside with the absence of RDA will allow the series to return to credibility in my mind. I believe Amanda Tapping, Christopher Judge, and Michael Shanks can carry the series forward, and I certainly think new characters will be added in. The most rabid of Daniel fans and the most rabid of Sam fans seem to think that one or the other is somehow a magically superior character who could carry the show alone, but it's important to remember that these are fans reactions and not those of the actors. I have gotten very warry of seeing fans attack each other and the actors when I know full well that the actors themselves would be horrified at the behavior and implications. As I said, many people will disagree, but that is the way I feel.

Atlantis

Oddly, my only ambivolent feelings about Atlantis have to do with casting as well. The show, IMO, has too many regulars to focus on effectively. While I love Beckett, the implication that they are moving him to the main cast worries me, especially as I have yet to see any indication (the Defiant One not withstanding) that there will be significant Ford character developement this season.

The writers need to decide if they will continue on this track, or not, and if they do, they need to ask themselves if he is really a main character.

All opinions expressed above are my own, and my own feelings alone.

I had a really good post, but I lost the thing!

I agree with MF, I would rather we didn't have RDA if he's isn't fully committed. If he comes back for 4 episodes where he is committed great, but otherwise, it would be nice for the rest of SG-1 to develop further. However, I do believe that SG-1 has nearly had it's day.

Beckett is great! Beckett is Scottish, and it's always good to be Scottish (except when we're being beaten at fitba'), but Ford doesn't seem to doing very much does he? So far anyway.

norriski
November 15th, 2004, 03:24 PM
Yipeee...it's offical and I'm one happy camper!

GateTraveler
November 15th, 2004, 03:40 PM
I'm very happy with this news but I have to give credit to the "anti-season 9ers" for keeping this thread somewhat positive. Almost all of the posts are either positive or a "cautious" neutral. I half expected there to be a bunch of negativism based on the speculation threads.

Regardless of which side you are on I believe everyone should at least agree that based on the overall quality of the show over the years that it deserves a 9th season - (at least as much or more than X-files did...)

AlphaBlu
November 15th, 2004, 04:21 PM
...but I have to give credit to the "anti-season 9ers" for keeping this thread somewhat positive...
Well that's 'cause I haven't posted yet. ;)

I remember on the old Delphi forums, around mid-way through Season 7, someone had in their sig:

"SEASON 9! SEASON 9! SEASON 9!"

That was their way of wishing for a Season 8. When I read it I went 'Yeah, Season 9, as if that'd ever happen'. And now look where we are?

I can live with RDA as a reoccuring character Fraiser style. She was in what... 6-8 episodes a Season? That's fine with me. What I can't live with is a show where Shanks and Judge are left to carry it because RDA doesn't want to be there and AT isn't there because of her baby. I'm certain that with a lot of help Judge/Shanks/Tapping could carry the show just, but not just two of them without the third.

The baby thing is a big issue for the show, so I'd rather them delay the production of the show than either A). Force AT back early, so much so that she quits to be with her baby or B). Her come back in a limited capacity for half a season.

What I do hope is that this Season's writing can be far stronger without the writers and producers having to run through hoops to get around RDA's schedual. No more filming four episodes at once. What I also hope they do is end it this season. No more tying up of loose ends only to be confirmed for another Season. Nine is enough (plus there are nine chevrons on the Gate, so it's perfect!). And finally I hope they don't try and insert any new characters. Bring back old ones, don't introduce new ones.

Atlantis

Yay! Atlantis is coming back. I love that show more than SG-1 now, and I'm glad to see everyone coming back.

I hope they also continue to show the reoccuring characters that they've introduced (Markam, Stackhouse, the mean Sergeant guy who doesn't like Sheppard, Dr. Zelenca, Paul Groden atc.) because I love continuity and I hate it when new characters appear out of thin air.

Anyway, as someone else said in the thread, I'm very happy about Atlantis' renewal, and I'm cautious about SG-1's renewal.

BYE

Positively Kanyon
November 15th, 2004, 05:04 PM
Watching Season 8 lately I have been thinking how I'ld prefer more SG1 to Atlantis. Atlantis just doesn't feel right when I watch it :s

I'm sorry but I'd have to disagree with you there. I think Atlantis has done such a wonderful job so far of taking the Stargate torch and running with it. The team is starting to gel together very well and I'm liking the Atlantis stories compared to SG-1.

As for Season 9, I am a little apprehensive about it. Yay, great that we are getting new episodes, but I've so far been really disappointed with the direction the show is going in. A show that's called "Stargate SG-1" about a device capable of travelling to other planets and we get episodes about Teal'c moving into his apartment :rolleyes: .

And as for RDA, I think he left the show a long time ago. You can see his heart's not in it anymore, and it's really dragging the show down. I would have been happy with SG-1 finishing after Season 8 and letting Atlantis carry the torch fully.

Madeleine
November 15th, 2004, 05:14 PM
I remember on the old Delphi forums, around mid-way through Season 7, someone had in their sig:

"SEASON 9! SEASON 9! SEASON 9!"



That was me. With acknowledgements to Gipsy who had a "Season 8!..." sig during s6.

IT WORKED!

No need to thank me, everyone ;);):p

Jonisa
November 15th, 2004, 05:21 PM
Not sure how well this will go over...

SG-1

I hope RDA doesn't come back as a series regular in season nine. He's a fine actor and a fine character but his heart hasn't been in the part for three years now and it has harmed the series and handicapped the writers. IMO he has been sleep walking through episodes, making Jack appear to be silly and indecisive instead of the strong and complex character he has been early in the series.

I don't think the writing is inherently shakey beyond that they have had to reach so badly in some cases this season to justify including or excluding Jack in episodes and it has harmed the credibility of the series. I realize that many of passionate fans feel that RDA is SG1, and I can respect those feelings, however I believe he is overrated as a "draw" for mainstream television audiences (and no, forum posters are NOT mainstream and we do not represent the fanbase).

I believe that those kinds of crediblity and a committment issues set aside with the absence of RDA will allow the series to return to credibility in my mind. I believe Amanda Tapping, Christopher Judge, and Michael Shanks can carry the series forward, and I certainly think new characters will be added in. The most rabid of Daniel fans and the most rabid of Sam fans seem to think that one or the other is somehow a magically superior character who could carry the show alone, but it's important to remember that these are fans reactions and not those of the actors. I have gotten very warry of seeing fans attack each other and the actors when I know full well that the actors themselves would be horrified at the behavior and implications. As I said, many people will disagree, but that is the way I feel.


Thank you for articulating so well pretty much the exact same thoughts I have about Season 9. I know that a lot of fans have an emotional connection to the character of Jack and are quite upset to see him go, but it has really felt to me in these past two seasons that his token presence and somewhat detached attitude has been more of a hindrance than a help to the series. Maybe it's because I began watching Stargate in Season 7 when Jack's presence was already reduced, but I do think the trio of Sam, Daniel, and Teal'c can pull off a Season 9, especially when the writers don't have to write around RDA's schedule anymore.

To those who are upset about the prospect of reduced Jack next year, I do sympathize. I know what it feels like to see a beloved character leave a television series, not on Stargate (as I wasn't around when Daniel left), but on other shows. And who knows? We don't know officially what his schedule will look like. It's possible that it will be more than the 4/5 episode rumor.

As far as Daniel vs. Sam carrying the show, I vote neither. I love, love, love the chemistry that CJ, MS, and AT have with each other and am hoping that next year's schedule will allow more "team" shows and less "character of the week" shows. IMveryHO, that is the best way to go.

Add some interesting guest stars (Claudia Black...please Claudia Black. Yes, I'm a huge Scaper, why do you ask? ;) ), and revisit some of the old storylines that Michael Greenburg mentioned, and I think there's great potential for Season 9 to be excellent.

But I tend to think positive most of the time. :)

majorsal
November 15th, 2004, 05:31 PM
Excellent news.

*does a happy dance*

I think it's great news too, but...

I'm a HUGE S/J shipper, and while I'm scared of the ship being drug out another season (or the boyfriend continued to be used), I'm more afraid of Amanda barely being in it. Without Amanda... :( So I'll be waiting for news on how much (if any) Amanda will be in the show.

((((((((((((((Amanda)))))))))))))))))


Sally :)

majorsal
November 15th, 2004, 05:44 PM
I highly doubt that AT will be missing or light in many if any episodes. There are a dozen or more shooting tricks including simply shooting her scenes for multiple episodes at one time and allowing her to bring her baby to the set.

They've obviously looked at making those considerations already, as the shooting start date has been moved from Feb. to March.

You're making me feel a LOT better, Major Fischer. :) For me, Stargate without Amanda is like cake without the frosting. :p

Sally :D

David85
November 15th, 2004, 05:45 PM
That was me. With acknowledgements to Gipsy who had a "Season 8!..." sig during s6.

IT WORKED!

No need to thank me, everyone ;);):p



Trust me we aren't. :P

keshou
November 15th, 2004, 05:50 PM
I'm going to miss Jack. But I think I'm mainly missing the Jack I remember from S1-S6. And even in S6 it seemed RDA's heart really wasn't in it at times. :(

My best hope for S9 is that the freedom from the struggle to work around RDA's schedule and keep the Jack character involved in as many episodes as possible will result in a new creative vision for SG-1. I mean they might actually be able to film episodes in a more linear fashion like they did in seasons 1-6.

I definitely think they need a new character. I would LOVE to see someone with the presence of a Claudia Black or Adam Baldwin. This cast has great chemistry and if they pick the right person the chemistry could be just as good as Jack & Co. were in the earlier seasons.

I also agree with Jonisa that this is an ensemble cast now. Each character deserves a moment in the sun but they're at their best when they play off each other. Hopefully we'll see a lot more of Sam, Daniel and Teal'c being a team again.

IMO, AT isn't the STAR who's going to carry the show. MS isn't the STAR who's going to carry the show. CJ IS! (Hee! Just kidding, but the poor guy never gets mentioned. :p ) There should be plenty of time for all three characters to shine.

*fingers crossed in optimistic mode*

acdj31
November 15th, 2004, 05:52 PM
It is great that Atlantis is going to be renewed (MORE FORD EPS) but I have doubts about SG-1.

Maybe if I watch the second half of season 8, I will be more then willing to see season 9.

acdj31
November 15th, 2004, 05:54 PM
Stay RDA Stay, Please

Jolinarsam
November 15th, 2004, 07:00 PM
"SEASON 9! SEASON 9! SEASON 9!"


Well, I'd say it's about time for:

SEASON 10! SEASON 10! SEASON 10!

*still jumping up and down* :D

Andy867
November 15th, 2004, 07:15 PM
One thing that I think would really benefit the SG-1 cast and crew is to bring in some new writers to produce more episodes that arent just "for the fans" but really help drive the story. I mean that Gate network is a masterpiece, probably the greatest invention by the Ancients, and we have only spend the last 5 years TRULY exploring it. I mean think about all the things that are yet to be discovered about the stargate itself, like some kind of filter to prevent any kind of infection (much like the transporter buffer in Star Trek) or possible ways to send supplies without using as much power to establish a full wormhole.. Like pulsing waves, lind sending supplies which would be less matter and wouldnt really need a stable/powerful connection. Just a connection strong enough to send materials through.

aussie_gal
November 15th, 2004, 08:23 PM
Yey great news. can't wait to see it

soulblade64
November 16th, 2004, 02:30 AM
to be painfully honest, i don't want season 9. i've found season 8..... crappy so far. it's re-using old ideas, and creating new stupid ones. bring on the finale, bring us a movie, and call it quits.

also, i don't wanna see the show without jack.
season 8 spoiler.
i don't like seeing him as a paper pushing general at the moment. please make it stop

bring on S2 of atlantis though. as long as it doesn't borrow any more of its story lines.

nUMb
November 16th, 2004, 02:32 AM
This Is The Best News Ever!!!

Can't Wait For Season 9 of SG1

I don't really care for Atlantis!

Copy is never as good as the Original!

Gategirl
November 16th, 2004, 04:01 AM
What a way to start the day!! :) GREAT NEWS!!!

I totally understand people's hesitation when it comes to S9 and the lack of RDA...BUT...I'm keeping an open mind! Different doesn't mean better, however it doesn't mean worse either!

Being a die-hard Daniel fan, I find myself enjoying the recent S6 marathons on Mondays. I've learned to appreciate Jonas as to where before I resented him. So now for S9...RDA will be sorely missed!!! That wit, that humor!! But I have confidence...the writers will fix it somehow! I'm just glad I can continue my imaginary trip through the universe!

prion
November 16th, 2004, 04:09 AM
One thing that I think would really benefit the SG-1 cast and crew is to bring in some new writers to produce more episodes that arent just "for the fans" but really help drive the story. .

Fans have been asking for that for years. Hasn't happened, and I sorta doubt it will. What they REALLY need to do is say that's it, this is the FINAL year, and then write good stories and not twiddle their thumbs of well, should we do this? Nah, we could have another season, etc. Yes, plot-driven stories would be nice, rather than rehashes of movies.

I'll watch season 9, but if it hadn' happened, sadly, it wouldn't have bothered me.

Albion
November 16th, 2004, 04:24 AM
Wooooohhooooooooooooooo!

This was the last thing I expected to read when I logged on as usual to Gateworld this morning. I was so happy I cried! I know - pathetic, isn't it considering it's only a TV show. LOL!

I guess I was trying so hard not to hope for fear of crushing disappointment it was such a relief!

Oh, this has made my day. Cannot wait for more adventures from our heroes!

Just hope they haven't gone overboard in the second half of S8 with closing things off and killing off people left, right and centre (what is it with the modern trend of doing that? It sucks) and they've left us something to watch! :p

Reading over the threads here during these past months though I reckon they have plenty of threads to tie up to keep them going through a S9 (and beyond!). All of the possibilities in the recent GW poll fascinate me for a start and I'd love to see those tackled: The Retu, Aris Boch, the Foothold aliens, Nicholas Ballard and best of all the chance that we might finally get to see that episode with Maybourne and Young Jack. :D

Bring it on, guys! Whatever you do with your extra season, I'll be there on the edge of my seat, watching, with the popcorn.


Well, I'd say it's about time for:

SEASON 10! SEASON 10! SEASON 10!

ROTFLMAO, JolinarSam!


Albion :)

Daniel's_twin
November 16th, 2004, 05:02 AM
*speaks in very early Teal'c-like voice* I have just heard about the news this morning. And I must say that I am not surprised in the least.

*breaks composure, acts more like Daniel if he's found the greatest artifact in the galaxy* I am psyched! I knew that they would do it, I just knew it! There's still just too much for them to go into! I can't wait to tell my family the news. I know my sister will be seriously happy. More RDA for her to watch (perhaps). But if RDA does only come back for a recurring role, who do you think will have to lead a season 9 as the principle character? Sam, perhaps? :cool:

Vyse
November 16th, 2004, 05:51 AM
I'm very happy Atlantis has been renewed. I just hope season 9 for SG-1 isn't crappy. Season 8 started very strong with New Order, Lockdown, and Zero Hour, but started to go downhill after that. I think the second half of season 8 will be better than the first though.

Vyse
November 16th, 2004, 05:53 AM
PLEASE have at least one episode on the Furlings! Please? :(

Daniel's_twin
November 16th, 2004, 06:20 AM
I know Mr. Prophet is hoping for that. He'll be able to see if they really are twenty-something feet tall. (it changes with each post/thread) Personally, I think they'd be more humanoid, but we'll see. :cool:

Wass
November 16th, 2004, 06:27 AM
I think they will be cute tiny little creatures.

greytop
November 16th, 2004, 07:05 AM
I think they will be cute tiny little creatures.
I agree with Wass but don't let Mr. Prophet hear us. They'll just bigger and bigger. :)

Vyse
November 16th, 2004, 07:55 AM
They will look like Tribbles! :D

Dr. Weir's Hair Gel
November 16th, 2004, 08:56 AM
Quite frankly, I have never understood the attitude of wanting your favorite shows to end just because there has been a drop in quality.

Take Buffy season 7 for instance. Sure, it wasn't very good... but I would much rather have been watching that once a week than whatever other junk was on. Further, the drop in quality for season 7 IN NO WAY made any other season LESS good. Do people really say "well, that ep in season 7 wasn't very good, so I now think that one ep in season 3 isn't good, too." No.

Lets say, for arguments sake, that season 9 of SG1 really isn't that great when it airs. What will happen? We will all watch it... and many people on here will whine about quality being down or RDA not being around, etc etc etc. BUT, those same people whining will, deep down, be happier watching Stargate than whatever else would have been on if SG1 had been cancelled. If that weren't true, they wouldn't watch or post.

Bring on Season 9. Will it be great? I hope so! If it isn't "great", though, it will still be better than 90% of whats out there, and that makes me happy because I will have a decent show to watch every week... RDA or no RDA. In the end, TV is ENTERTAINMENT, and if a show still entertains me, and still is worth it money and time wise for the actors and production crew, it should still be on.

tiamut
November 16th, 2004, 10:17 AM
What a way to start the day!! :) GREAT NEWS!!!


Being a die-hard Daniel fan, I find myself enjoying the recent S6 marathons on Mondays. I've learned to appreciate Jonas as to where before I resented him. So now for S9...RDA will be sorely missed!!! That wit, that humor!! But I have confidence...the writers will fix it somehow! I'm just glad I can continue my imaginary trip through the universe!



I have to agree with you there. Having found the show between seasons five & six (via Stargate Mondays on SciFi), I didn't like Jonas immediately. But lately I've found myself "yelling" at him (*blushes* Yes, I do talk at the characters. But they don't listen) as much as I yell at the rest of them.

So I think SG-1 could survive with reduced RDA. Maybe develop a few of the occasional characters enough so they could come and go--much like Janet Frazier.

Hathor999
November 16th, 2004, 10:19 AM
Not sure how well this will go over...

SG-1

I hope RDA doesn't come back as a series regular in season nine. He's a fine actor and a fine character but his heart hasn't been in the part for three years now and it has harmed the series and handicapped the writers. IMO he has been sleep walking through episodes, making Jack appear to be silly and indecisive instead of the strong and complex character he has been early in the series.

I don't think the writing is inherently shakey beyond that they have had to reach so badly in some cases this season to justify including or excluding Jack in episodes and it has harmed the credibility of the series. I realize that many of passionate fans feel that RDA is SG1, and I can respect those feelings, however I believe he is overrated as a "draw" for mainstream television audiences (and no, forum posters are NOT mainstream and we do not represent the fanbase).

I believe that those kinds of crediblity and a committment issues set aside with the absence of RDA will allow the series to return to credibility in my mind. I believe Amanda Tapping, Christopher Judge, and Michael Shanks can carry the series forward, and I certainly think new characters will be added in. The most rabid of Daniel fans and the most rabid of Sam fans seem to think that one or the other is somehow a magically superior character who could carry the show alone, but it's important to remember that these are fans reactions and not those of the actors. I have gotten very warry of seeing fans attack each other and the actors when I know full well that the actors themselves would be horrified at the behavior and implications. As I said, many people will disagree, but that is the way I feel.

Atlantis

Oddly, my only ambivolent feelings about Atlantis have to do with casting as well. The show, IMO, has too many regulars to focus on effectively. While I love Beckett, the implication that they are moving him to the main cast worries me, especially as I have yet to see any indication (the Defiant One not withstanding) that there will be significant Ford character developement this season.

The writers need to decide if they will continue on this track, or not, and if they do, they need to ask themselves if he is really a main character.

All opinions expressed above are my own, and my own feelings alone.


In my corner of the world Atlantis is not shown and so I have no opinion about it, but Im happy that SG 1 will be back for season 9...cautious happy.

I will miss Jack very much but if he is really in 4 episodes Im still content with it, and I hope that this could maybe give RDA some of his old enthusiasm back and we will have a Jack who is not "sleep walking". But I have the feeling that this will have very much to do with the quality of the scripts.

And here is the reason why Im only cautious happy: For me (and please dont forget that this is only MY opinion) since season 6 (as Stargate has gone from Showtime to the Sci Fi Channel) the quality of the show is suffering much. Season 6 had some boring episodes but still some great ones (like my favourite "Abyss" or "Full Circle" or "Paradise Lost" and some other which I liked very much) but after that they are gone more and more away from that was made the show interesting for me: adventures on other worlds and the battle against the Goauld and turned Stargate into a show about conspirancies and domestic life. Was is NOT what I want from a science fiction show! And because of that Im still happy but have a not so good feeling about season 9...

Livi2Jack
November 16th, 2004, 01:36 PM
Love your animated pig...woo hoo!!!!! S9+

When everyone is complaining about the garbage on general tv....we can point and smile and say there are two great shows that answer the call...

RDA in any form is better than none even though I want him...er...,it all....maybe a break in S9 will bore him to committing to S9+. I would watch that man read the phone book.

And anyway, I need my fix of Stargate each week.

GateTraveler
November 16th, 2004, 04:04 PM
How much you wanna bet the same people whining and moaning about how bad Season 8 is and how the show should end will be right back here whining and moaning about how bad Season 9 is and how the show should end this time next year :)?

DownFallAngel
November 16th, 2004, 04:36 PM
In my opinion, Season 8 has been pretty much a let down. I'll give it New Order 1 & 2, Zero Hour and Sacrifices. Everything else was not up to par in my opinion. As for Season 9, it has alot to prove to me as a fan.

GateTraveler
November 16th, 2004, 06:42 PM
I can't decide whether the people who think the show sucks and come here so often to say so are true fans of the show or not. I guess a case can be made either way. Me? If I thought a show sucked, I would go find one I liked. But that's just me I guess. Maybe I'm the one who isn't a true fan...

jannagalaxy
November 17th, 2004, 09:28 AM
Brillient about SGA S2, Excellent!

But SG1 S9, I'm very nervous about.

Don't get me wrong, I love SG1 and would be sorry to see it go. But I am very worried that it might turn sour. In my opinion, (I'm sorry if this upsets people) but I think that after this (next season I shouldsay now) season maybe they should just have a break for a while. Don't bury the gate, just turn it off for the day.

I would be sad to see it go, but I think that there is going to be way too many changes this next season. I hope that they are going to tie-up anyloose ends. I don't think it is possible to tie them all up but you never know.

I just pray and hope things don't go the way it did like other shows that went on too long. I think that STTNG, did it right, stopped for a while then came back.

I just hope that things turn out right.

Peace
Janna Galaxy

PS I hope that TPTB, will put the team sprit back. I miss that!

alpha
November 17th, 2004, 09:54 AM
Just as I was winding down and expecting this to be last season of SG-1, I was really pleased when I just found out that SG-1 was being picked up for a ninth season.

Hathor999
November 17th, 2004, 10:33 AM
I can't decide whether the people who think the show sucks and come here so often to say so are true fans of the show or not. I guess a case can be made either way. Me? If I thought a show sucked, I would go find one I liked. But that's just me I guess. Maybe I'm the one who isn't a true fan...

Maybe because they have still a little bit hope that the show will be better as it seems now?
To be honest Im NOT really unhappy with season 8: The conspirancy and domestic life stuff is absolutly boring, I miss the off-world episodes and I dont like Daniels changed personality very much ( I hope that we will see in the future a little bit more of Daniels "old" personality) but to the same time I think that the writers have proved with "NEW ORDER", "ZERO HOUR" and "ENDGAME" that they can still write good episodes! (And I liked Jack this season much more as in season 7 ).
Something that I had no longer thought to be possible after the second half of season 7! So I see the first half of season 8 as a little improvement to season 7 (second half) , and if the we will have the same quality in the second half I would not only like to see season 9 but even season 10 or 11!!!

But here is my problem: All spoilers and infos I have for the new episodes next year tell me that we will have only one thing in the new season 8 episodes:
"As the Stargate turns"! For the fans who like it this are great news but for the ones who dont care about it, who watch the show for the science fiction that are very bad news...
And the worsest thing is that the writers seems this year not even to try to give all fans a little bit what they can like (as they had tried it with "LOST CITY" last season) in the finale - but seems to have decided to make this time only the fans happy who can not get enough of the soap opera stuff.
All I can they is that I still hope that season 8 part 2 will have something for everybody but I cant no longer really beliefe it.
But about one thing Im sure: If season 8 will repeat the pattern of season 7 and we will get much more stuff like "Grace" and "Evolution part 2" I WILL stop watching. And this time when my favourite actor Richard Dean Anderson is no longer a part of the show it will be very easy for me...

But as always this are only MY opinions. I dont want to hurt anybody with this post but I found it unfair to be told to stop watching and want made sure that its clear why Im critical about season 9.

Hathor999
November 17th, 2004, 10:50 AM
Brillient about SGA S2, Excellent!

But SG1 S9, I'm very nervous about.

Don't get me wrong, I love SG1 and would be sorry to see it go. But I am very worried that it might turn sour. In my opinion, (I'm sorry if this upsets people) but I think that after this (next season I shouldsay now) season maybe they should just have a break for a while. Don't bury the gate, just turn it off for the day.

I would be sad to see it go, but I think that there is going to be way too many changes this next season. I hope that they are going to tie-up anyloose ends. I don't think it is possible to tie them all up but you never know.

I just pray and hope things don't go the way it did like other shows that went on too long. I think that STTNG, did it right, stopped for a while then came back.

I just hope that things turn out right.

Peace
Janna Galaxy

PS I hope that TPTB, will put the team sprit back. I miss that!


I think I would like some TV movies in the next couple of years more than a season 9. The writers would have more time to write their scripts, we could have better special effects and we could have maybe all actors back.

About the team spirit: I have given up to hope for very much of the old team feeling so Im content with the little bit we have now...my problem is that I have the really bad feeling that we will loose even this in the second part of season 8...

jannagalaxy
November 17th, 2004, 11:42 AM
I think I would like some TV movies in the next couple of years more than a season 9. The writers would have more time to write their scripts, we could have better special effects and we could have maybe all actors back.

You took the word right out of my mouth!

GateTraveler
November 17th, 2004, 12:29 PM
But as always this are only MY opinions. I dont want to hurt anybody with this post but I found it unfair to be told to stop watching and want made sure that its clear why Im critical about season 9.

How does telling you what I would do have any bearing on what you should do?? I wasn't telling anyone to stop watching Stargate. Its probably good that people who seem to hate the show still watch it so the ratings stay high. I just don't understand it is all.

One recent post said TPTB have made 3 good episodes in the past 3 years. I guess this individual must be a "true fan" because even after three solid years of apparently hating the show he continues to watch (and trash it on the forums). It's this kind of behavior I don't understand. All I was saying was that if it were me, I would simply stop watching and find something else that I like. What anybody else does is their own business - not mine.

Hopefully I am making myself clear...

zebrok
November 18th, 2004, 05:44 PM
I can't decide whether the people who think the show sucks and come here so often to say so are true fans of the show or not. I guess a case can be made either way. Me? If I thought a show sucked, I would go find one I liked. But that's just me I guess. Maybe I'm the one who isn't a true fan...

This may help, remember that fan is a colloquialism that refers to fanatic. So a "true fan" really means a fanatic. When you look at it that way its pretty easy to separate fans in the common/slang usage from "true fans".

And on that note, this SG-1 fanatic is doing his best snoopy dance http://www2.berry.edu/oit/training/Training/images/snoopy_dance.gif for SG-1 season 9!

Oh and yay for SGA season 2 as well, hopefully they will get around to exploring the actual freakin City. People complain about no Gate in eps of SG-1 but it'd be nice to actually explore Atlantis on a show called Atlantis. SG-1 fans and fanatics waited a couple of years to get the secrets of the Lost City and then not only was that great event stolen for another show but now we have seen barely any of the City on said show. We are half way through season 1 and in almost all ways Atlantis is still a Lost City.

And now lets hear it for SG-1 seasons 9, 10, 11 and 12 and SGA seasons 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ,7...?

jungleboy_george
November 21st, 2004, 04:51 AM
This is what i posted at www.sg1archive.com on this topic:

First let me say there have been a lot of different ideas to come out of this thread, and a lot of different opinions about movie possibilities, mini-series etc etc. But the overriding theme is whether they should make a season 9 or not. OK here is my attempt at tackling this issue...

Let me begin by letting you know i live way "down under" in Australia and have been a devout SG-1 fan since the very beginning... since the movie in fact when I was but a child of 10 years. I am such a fan that rather than wait for MGM Australia to get its act together with regard to DVD releases, I took it upon myself to get all of the season box sets to date shipped over from Canada (which happened to have the lowest prices!). And i have just recently finished viewing season 7, which has just begun showing on television on our Channel 7. I don't even know whether or not they are going to show Atlantis here on television...

Now to the nitty gritty. The thing i will point out is that season 7 could so easily have been the final season of SG-1:
- you had the "ultimate" bad guy in Anubis
- the search for the lost city was reaching its climax (i realise they never found it)
- it led perfectly on to the spin-off series Atlantis with new cast, stories etc
- RDA's heart doesn't appear to be in it anymore (cant blame him with his daughter)
- they're weren't any unfinished threads that Atlantis couldn't tackle (the Jaffa could easily have been handled at the end of season 7 as well)
- it was a kickass end to a season (and a series)

So when i heard of season 8 (before i had even seen season 7), i was a little bit reserved with this idea. But from what i hear there are some MAJOR tying up of loose ends stories towards the end of season 8, which to me would seem like the next best way to finish the series. But after season 8 there seems to be no possibility for a great conclusion to SG-1:
- all the major plot lines will be covered and dealt with
- anyone who dares suggest SG-1 will be good without RDA is kidding themselves
- so many other GOOD series have wittled (spelling?) away into nothing because studios got too greedy and went that extra season more than they should have
- any new stories will have less impact with Atlantis showing simultaneously

Looking at this thread and having read every single post, it is clear to see that a great majority of fans (80-90% plus) do not want SG-1 to be ruined with a ninth season. And mark my words... i know it has been used to death, but we will have another X-Files on our hands if a ninth season gets the go ahead, with or without RDA. I'm sure that like me, the rest of you loyal SG-1 fans have purchased most, if not all, of the DVDs, and have enjoyed most seasons thus far. I am of the belief, like many, many others, that they should end SG-1 on a high (ie THIS season) and concentrate their efforts on Atlantis, which from what i hear has the potential to last more seasons into the future.

Am i too ignorant to think that the powers that be pay attention to their wonderful fan base over the last 10 years and end SG-1 with a bang in season 8??? This would be infinitely better than leaving a bitter taste in the mouth of so many loyal fans by having SG-1 continue on poorly simply for the sake of profits. It would be too much to bear...

I hope i have not bored you to death with my thoughts, but i feel it was worth it. In fact if i wanted to voice my concerns to the powers that be, who should i contact? MGM or the Sci-Fi channel?? I would have thought MGM would be the ones to talk to.

In finishing... PLEASE do not continue with a ninth season just for the sake of profits. You will disappoint so many of us, especially someone like me who has considered SG-1 to be the best TV show i have ever watched.

GateTraveler
November 21st, 2004, 05:54 AM
Looking at this thread and having read every single post, it is clear to see that a great majority of fans (80-90% plus) do not want SG-1 to be ruined with a ninth season.

How in the world do you come up with that radical percentage?? This thread certainly doesn't support it. Other threads here do not support it and neither do the ratings. The only way that you could say that as many as 90% of the fans don't want season 9 is to only look at posts from the negative but vocal minority that pump out posts enmasse on the message boards. Yes, these people are fans too (at least I think they are) but they certainly don't represent the majority.

You know there is a very simple way to end SG1 as many here so desperately want. Drum roll please....

Stop watching the show!!

Actually I'm glad the folks that don't like it still watch but that's the only way it will end - really. The only reason that SG1 has continued on so long is because the viewer base continues to grow year after year. Scifi would certainly be glad to cancel such an expensive show if no one watched it.

Ironically the seasons that many here point to as being the worst (S7 and S8) are the highest rated seasons in SG1 history. That was not the case with X-files so I'm really tired of those comparisons. SG1 is not X-files - not even close. There are still plenty of quality episodes or else ratings would be going down - not up. Viewership would be decreasing - not setting ratings records.

And before you say "ratings do not equal quality", if we were talking about reality TV on a major network, I would agree but we are talking about a show in a genre that normally doesn't appeal to a "mainstream" audience. People actually have to seek out SG1 on an obscure cable network. Pretty impressive!

Shivan
November 21st, 2004, 07:13 AM
How in the world do you come up with that radical percentage?? This thread certainly doesn't support it. Other threads here do not support it and neither do the ratings. The only way that you could say that as many as 90% of the fans don't want season 9 is to only look at posts from the negative but vocal minority that pump out posts enmasse on the message boards. Yes, these people are fans too (at least I think they are) but they certainly don't represent the majority.

You know there is a very simple way to end SG1 as many here so desperately want. Drum roll please....

Stop watching the show!!

Actually I'm glad the folks that don't like it still watch but that's the only way it will end - really. The only reason that SG1 has continued on so long is because the viewer base continues to grow year after year. Scifi would certainly be glad to cancel such an expensive show if no one watched it.

Ironically the seasons that many here point to as being the worst (S7 and S8) are the highest rated seasons in SG1 history. That was not the case with X-files so I'm really tired of those comparisons. SG1 is not X-files - not even close. There are still plenty of quality episodes or else ratings would be going down - not up. Viewership would be decreasing - not setting ratings records.

And before you say "ratings do not equal quality", if we were talking about reality TV on a major network, I would agree but we are talking about a show in a genre that normally doesn't appeal to a "mainstream" audience. People actually have to seek out SG1 on an obscure cable network. Pretty impressive!

Thank you for that post, I agree. I loved S7 and I am currently loving S8.
And I am definitely hyped for S9.

Krystal
November 21st, 2004, 10:04 AM
Great news! I'm really looking forward to see more Stargate and more Atlantis. :) After seeing many of my favorites series dissapear, is good to know there will be more Stargate.

jckfan55
November 21st, 2004, 10:56 AM
I am hopeful for season 9, though I worry about quality of writing after so many episodes. Do you think they've become over-reliant on people like D. Kindler & Joe & Paul M? whatever happened to Heather Ash & some of the other writers? Robert Cooper's episodes are usually good, but isn't he pretty involved with Atlantis these days?

Daniel's_twin
November 21st, 2004, 11:00 AM
I may be putting a little too much faith in these guys, but I wouldn't worry too much. I have high hopes for season nine, and SG-1 hasn't let me down yet. So I'm hopeful. :cool:

aussie_gal
November 21st, 2004, 03:45 PM
How much you wanna bet the same people whining and moaning about how bad Season 8 is and how the show should end will be right back here whining and moaning about how bad Season 9 is and how the show should end this time next year :)?


Yeah well theres a lot of people that thought that stargate started going bad after season 4-5 . But your bound to get people that dislike seasons.

But i do think that season 9 will be great.

jungleboy_george
November 21st, 2004, 04:16 PM
How in the world do you come up with that radical percentage?? This thread certainly doesn't support it. Other threads here do not support it and neither do the ratings. The only way that you could say that as many as 90% of the fans don't want season 9 is to only look at posts from the negative but vocal minority that pump out posts enmasse on the message boards. Yes, these people are fans too (at least I think they are) but they certainly don't represent the majority.

You know there is a very simple way to end SG1 as many here so desperately want. Drum roll please....

Stop watching the show!!

Actually I'm glad the folks that don't like it still watch but that's the only way it will end - really. The only reason that SG1 has continued on so long is because the viewer base continues to grow year after year. Scifi would certainly be glad to cancel such an expensive show if no one watched it.

Ironically the seasons that many here point to as being the worst (S7 and S8) are the highest rated seasons in SG1 history. That was not the case with X-files so I'm really tired of those comparisons. SG1 is not X-files - not even close. There are still plenty of quality episodes or else ratings would be going down - not up. Viewership would be decreasing - not setting ratings records.

And before you say "ratings do not equal quality", if we were talking about reality TV on a major network, I would agree but we are talking about a show in a genre that normally doesn't appeal to a "mainstream" audience. People actually have to seek out SG1 on an obscure cable network. Pretty impressive!


i feel i need to clarify...

the 80-90% figure came from reading an almost identical thread topic at www.sg1archive.com. If you are interested... http://www.sg1archive.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9599&st=0

Looking at this thread it appears those figures are way out of whack. All it goes to prove is that opinion is greatly divided.

Now don't get me wrong, as i said SG-1 has been my favourite TV show ever, and i am only concerned that you can have too much of a good thing. I know ratings are sky high at the moment... but that is mainly because you have these large concluding episodes from prominent storylines of the past. Once these major plots/themes are dealt with (and i believe most of them will be by the end of S8), i am just worried that we will have reached this huge climax and then they will be looking for fresh ideas which i dont think can have anywhere near the same impact, especially with Atlantis going ahead full steam.

Again i ask why can't they concentrate all their efforts on marketing Atlantis as the perfect spin-off which has the potential to last many more seasons?

Long-live the Stargate FRANCHISE...

Daniel's_twin
November 21st, 2004, 05:17 PM
Alas, and I would regret this greatly, s9 will most likely be the last season, so you'll get your wish anyway in a year or so, most likely. But I seriously hope not. :cool:

GateTraveler
November 21st, 2004, 05:23 PM
i feel i need to clarify...

the 80-90% figure came from reading an almost identical thread topic at www.sg1archive.com. If you are interested... http://www.sg1archive.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9599&st=0

Looking at this thread it appears those figures are way out of whack. All it goes to prove is that opinion is greatly divided.

Now don't get me wrong, as i said SG-1 has been my favourite TV show ever, and i am only concerned that you can have too much of a good thing. I know ratings are sky high at the moment... but that is mainly because you have these large concluding episodes from prominent storylines of the past. Once these major plots/themes are dealt with (and i believe most of them will be by the end of S8), i am just worried that we will have reached this huge climax and then they will be looking for fresh ideas which i dont think can have anywhere near the same impact, especially with Atlantis going ahead full steam.

Again i ask why can't they concentrate all their efforts on marketing Atlantis as the perfect spin-off which has the potential to last many more seasons?

Long-live the Stargate FRANCHISE...

Once again you are looking at a very slanted minority opinion by focusing on one thread in one forum. As you admit, this thread doesn't support that opinion so perhaps the majority of "fans" might actually want a 9th season.

Why do you people who claim to love the show want it to end??? It seems to me that if I actually loved something I would not want it to end. To want something to end just because you think it might not be any good in the future just doesn't make any sense to me. That's like me saying "You know, I think I'm going to leave my wife. She looks pretty good now, maybe not as good as she looked 10 years ago but I just know she is going to get fat and ugly one day because look what happened to JoAnne down the street (i.e.xfiles). Nah, I should just end it now while she still looks good."

On the ratings, what major story lines were closed in the 1st half of S8? Most of the eps didn't deal with closing anything out. The 2nd half will but those eps haven't aired yet so there obviously aren't any ratings to look at.

Darren
November 22nd, 2004, 11:24 AM
We did a GateWorld poll on the topic of a ninth season. Those GW visitors opposed to a ninth season added up to less than 9 percent:

http://www.gateworld.net/cgi-bin/stargatepoll.cgi?what=results&q=56

Erik Pasternak
November 22nd, 2004, 11:33 AM
That says something!

Major Fischer
November 22nd, 2004, 12:33 PM
As is most often the case on any subject, internet message boards are filled with people of the extremes of opinion. I would hazard to guess that if one ran a thread about who liked Jonas and disliked Jonas the opinions would be the most extreme because only the extremes want to argue the issue.

That doesn't mean that such a thread would be reflective of division within the larger fanbase for the show.