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GateTrek2004
August 26th, 2008, 04:09 AM
Well I have not seen this thread and might as well but this out...

Who do you all think will be the Baddie? I realize they may be a new race, but if you had to choose a current one, who would it be?

I'm hoping for Furlings! HEHE

Jeff O'Connor
August 26th, 2008, 04:19 AM
Maybe they'll port Atlantis' upcoming race introduction as at least a secondary nemesis.

Jack_Bauer
August 26th, 2008, 04:32 AM
Maybe they'll port Atlantis' upcoming race introduction as at least a secondary nemesis.

I'm thinking the new enemywill have used the 'seeded' gates (which may have been there for thousands of years) as a means to control numerous galaxies at once (good one Ancients! :D), hence, the new enemies may arrive in Pegasus by coincidence as they expand their 'Gate Empire'...

Wyrminarrd
August 26th, 2008, 04:50 AM
My guess: A different kind of replicators :rolleyes:

ciannwn
August 26th, 2008, 05:32 AM
If the enemy is too powerful and advanced they'd be able to track the Destiny down and blow it up. Seeing as the crew can't control the ship's navigational schedule they'll have to go wherever it takes them so they won't be able to try evasive tactics like rushing off to the next galaxy or going back to the previous one. Hopefully the Destiny will have strong shields and big guns which, for some reason, the crew will be able to control even if they can't do anything else with the ship. :)

Miroslav
August 26th, 2008, 05:50 AM
Q. :D

http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/04/star_trek_Q.jpg

:D :D

IcarusAbides
August 26th, 2008, 06:19 AM
A goa'uld controlled wraith:cool:

Zarius
August 26th, 2008, 09:27 AM
The twist ought to be that the enemy has been piloting The Destiny the entire time and the crew have options early in the series to return home, but elect to stay on the journey to find the ship and destroy it before other galaxies are conquered and seeded.

...And they'll likely also start off as captivating and thought-provoking, then get replaced by The Replicators...who are now sentient furniture.

leiasky
August 26th, 2008, 09:52 AM
Yeah, I'm tired of the replicators, too. I hope they don't go down that easy route and instead create a believable baddie.

Betelgeuze
August 26th, 2008, 11:03 AM
It will have young & desperate explorers, so sexual frustration?

Linda06
August 26th, 2008, 11:07 AM
Sci-Fi channel :D

P-51D Mustang
August 26th, 2008, 11:27 AM
My guess is that it is going to be the bad guys from the Daeduls Variations.

Wolf O'Donnell
August 26th, 2008, 11:43 AM
Sci-Fi channel :D

:sheppardanime23:

Prior_of_the_Ori
August 26th, 2008, 11:46 AM
Sci-Fi channel :D

I can picture it now...
"Last time on Stargate Universe, the team meet a new enemy... more advanced then the Goa'uld, more numerous then the Wraith and more powerful the Ori... it is... the Sci-Fi channel!"

Anyway to be serious now, I think they should introduce two big races... both antagonistic to one another and perhaps to the Destiny crew. Perhaps both sides are fighting over the resources of old dying galaxies and think the Destiny ship will lead them to a richer part of the universe.

I vote for the next race to be an alien race of shapeshifters called Phantoms :D

GhostPoet
August 26th, 2008, 11:52 AM
It's going to be a Wraith with a snake in it's head....with replicator arms!!!!

Prior_of_the_Ori
August 26th, 2008, 11:53 AM
It's going to be a Wraith with a snake in it's head....with replicator arms!!!!

And is partially an Ascended being.

kymeric
August 26th, 2008, 11:54 AM
SPACE NAZIS!!!!!!

It worked on enterprise ;)

clwaurie
August 26th, 2008, 02:35 PM
It is clearly going to be penguins, they are smug little B*****D.

Or they could have aliens from foothold, although I would rather something original perhaps even a different bad guy every week but that could get old very fast.

Woden
August 26th, 2008, 03:13 PM
SPACE NAZIS!!!!!!

It worked on enterprise ;):))

jenks
August 26th, 2008, 03:16 PM
Well I have got seen this thread and might as well but this out...

Who do you all think will be the Baddie? I realize they may be a new race, but if you had to choose a current one, who would it be?

I'm hoping for Furlings! HEHE

There won't be one.

Infinatus
August 26th, 2008, 03:26 PM
My guess: A different kind of replicators :rolleyes:

Alien-form replicators, and the bug replicators are like scorpions with acid-injecting stingers. :P


It will have young & desperate explorers, so sexual frustration?

:lol:


Sci-Fi channel :D

The characters realizing they're on a TV show and trying to fight the writers and the network would be very interesting and very creative. ;)


I can picture it now...
"Last time on Stargate Universe, the team meet a new enemy... more advanced then the Goa'uld, more numerous then the Wraith and more powerful the Ori... it is... the Sci-Fi channel!"

Anyway to be serious now, I think they should introduce two big races... both antagonistic to one another and perhaps to the Destiny crew. Perhaps both sides are fighting over the resources of old dying galaxies and think the Destiny ship will lead them to a richer part of the universe.

I vote for the next race to be an alien race of shapeshifters called Phantoms :D

Two enemies that are constantly slugging it out against each other would be a great idea. Not only would it make them less stupid when the protagonists beat them again and again (they're too busy to dedicate all their resources to fighting them!) but it would be refreshing not to have yet another carbon copy of the Goa'uld with absolute/near absolute control of their own domains. Your idea for their motivations is also pretty good. :)


It is clearly going to be penguins, they are smug little B*****D.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o155/Bimble_2006/untitled-62.jpg

Madwelshboy
August 26th, 2008, 03:30 PM
I doubt think that there will be a "main enemy" of sorts in SGU. Since due to the nature of the concept that they are on a ship thats allways moving, I think that enemies will come and go depending on what part of space the ship is located at any given time. But you never know they could come up with a enemy that has a vast empire spanning a few galaaxies

Jumper_One
August 26th, 2008, 03:31 PM
It will have young & desperate explorers, so sexual frustration?

:lol:

the fifth man
August 26th, 2008, 07:08 PM
I doubt think that there will be a "main enemy" of sorts in SGU. Since due to the nature of the concept that they are on a ship thats allways moving, I think that enemies will come and go depending on what part of space the ship is located at any given time. But you never know they could come up with a enemy that has a vast empire spanning a few galaaxies

I think that is very likely. Either that, or this enemy is one that is chasing the ship our crew is on, constantly trying to capture it.

kymeric
August 26th, 2008, 07:14 PM
I think that is very likely. Either that, or this enemy is one that is chasing the ship our crew is on, constantly trying to capture it.

Bit of a step up from the wraith, guaould even the ori for an enemy who can chase you across the universe.

Infinatus
August 26th, 2008, 08:04 PM
Bit of a step up from the wraith, guaould even the ori for an enemy who can chase you across the universe.

It was implied that the Foothold aliens might have been able to cross galaxies, yet the fact that they were never revealed to have challenged the Goa'uld suggests that they're not very powerful by current standards. They might have just had advanced hyperspace/FTL technology. So we really don't know at this point how powerful the antagonists would be, assuming the writers will think this through. Now that we have Asgard beams and in this show a ship equipped with Ancient tech it's possible the enemy will be another group of Ori type villains requiring EDMs to defeat them.

Ancavge
August 26th, 2008, 08:33 PM
Anubis

Arturis
August 26th, 2008, 08:37 PM
I think that is very likely. Either that, or this enemy is one that is chasing the ship our crew is on, constantly trying to capture it.

Scorpius, anyone?

_Famrir_
August 26th, 2008, 08:51 PM
how about an offshoot of the human race that became evil or something like that.

Ancavge
August 26th, 2008, 08:54 PM
how about an offshoot of the human race that became evil or something like that.

not the trust again ;)

PG15
August 26th, 2008, 09:48 PM
It will have young & desperate explorers, so sexual frustration?

Brilliant!

With the way SciFi channel keeps advertising for Cialis, the baddie should totally be erectile dysfunction! ;)

GateTrek2004
August 26th, 2008, 10:57 PM
There won't be one.

If there isn't one, whats the point? But i guess the Younger Gen. would love no bad guy. They love Hannah and HSM and, oh is that getting TOO younger?

jenks
August 26th, 2008, 11:07 PM
If there isn't one, whats the point? But i guess the Younger Gen. would love no bad guy. They love Hannah and HSM and, oh is that getting TOO younger?

What do you mean?

Miroslav
August 26th, 2008, 11:07 PM
I vote for the next race to be an alien race of shapeshifters called Phantoms :D


Why not The Founders? :D :D

Ripple in Space
August 26th, 2008, 11:09 PM
It was implied that the Foothold aliens might have been able to cross galaxies, yet the fact that they were never revealed to have challenged the Goa'uld suggests that they're not very powerful by current standards. They might have just had advanced hyperspace/FTL technology
To be fair, the Foothold Aliens may have just had a numbers problem (as all the big races do/did except for the Wraith & Goa'uld). Maybe a small population, or maybe just that one group within their race only had a small group and few ships. Think about it, say a Tau'ri team only had a couple of Jumpers & 302s, while the tech may be good, they couldn't take on anyone big.

As far as casting goes, I have it on good authority that the villains will live on a "beach planet" and some of Momoa's old Baywatch co-stars will be signing on

GateTrek2004
August 26th, 2008, 11:13 PM
What do you mean?

If there isn't a bad guy around all the time, whats the point? there always seems to be some kind of bad person(s) stirring up trouble in the show. SG-1 always has the Gouald up until continuum with the end of them hopefully ,then the Replicators, Ori, and Atlantis Has Wraith, Todd (at times bad at times good), Michael and Replcators.

jenks
August 26th, 2008, 11:15 PM
If there isn't a bad guy around all the time, whats the point? there always seems to be some kind of bad person(s) stirring up trouble in the show. SG-1 always had the Gouald, Replicators, Ori, and Atlantis Has Wraith, Todd (at times bad at times good), Michael and Replcators.

I still don't understand what you mean. Why do you need an ongoing enemy to make a show? I don't understand why you mean by 'what's the point?'.

GateTrek2004
August 26th, 2008, 11:17 PM
I still don't understand what you mean. Why do you need an ongoing enemy to make a show? I don't understand why you mean by 'what's the point?'.

never mind then. every season on SG-1 and Atlantis HAS some sort of enemy lurking around so is only implies that there needs to be some sort of enemy. If there isn't then thats cool with me, but just (to me) won;t make a good show in my opinion

jenks
August 26th, 2008, 11:21 PM
Well I don't see why, but to each their own.

PG15
August 26th, 2008, 11:21 PM
I think that's the whole point; yet another series where there's a "main villain" would just be repeating what came before.

And you can certainly have a series where there's no main bad guy; or, at least, not a main bad guy race.

GateTrek2004
August 26th, 2008, 11:33 PM
I see what your getting at PG, jenks kept saying "what you mean", but by saying THAT i understand what he and you are coming from!

LiquidSky
August 26th, 2008, 11:45 PM
Baddies for SGU?!!! How about a family full of foes.

LS

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg46/LiquidSky1/family-guy-the-family.jpg

GateTrek2004
August 26th, 2008, 11:46 PM
baddies for sgu?!!! How about a family full of foes.

Ls

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg46/liquidsky1/family-guy-the-family.jpg

oh god not stewie!!!!!!! Bow before the stewie!

Ripple in Space
August 27th, 2008, 12:00 AM
In all seriousness, even Atlantis really doesn't have a main enemy right now. IN SG-1, it was literally their mission statement to acquire technology to defend against the Goa'uld & later to defeat the Ori. SG-1 accomplished both, assassinating all System Lord & Ori.

In Atlantis they were at war with the Asurans, but won pretty quickly. I'm not even sure that they are at war with the Wraith, because if they were, why wouldn't they be attacking the Wraith? The Expedition has the anonymity of Atlantis and 2-3 BC-304s that dominate Wraith Hives. They'd be doing gorilla attacks like in the Last Man if they were truly at war. So right now it's more episodic, imo.

Dusk
August 27th, 2008, 02:21 AM
Whatever the enemy, let's hope it's something new and bold. Perhaps put a spin on things and have an alien team ala SG-1 but consisting of nasties as the primary nemesis. But it will likely end up being yet another barbaric, ugly, class-based society of bad guys hell-bent on power and destruction. Bo-ring!

Making the Furlings the bad guys would be special. But I can almost certainly say that is just not gonna happen.

Wolf O'Donnell
August 27th, 2008, 03:58 AM
I think that is very likely. Either that, or this enemy is one that is chasing the ship our crew is on, constantly trying to capture it.

Sounds like some other Villains targeted at a younger audience (much like SGU)

http://eugeal.tripod.com/team01.jpg

Prior_of_the_Ori
August 27th, 2008, 04:20 AM
Two enemies that are constantly slugging it out against each other would be a great idea. Not only would it make them less stupid when the protagonists beat them again and again (they're too busy to dedicate all their resources to fighting them!) but it would be refreshing not to have yet another carbon copy of the Goa'uld with absolute/near absolute control of their own domains. Your idea for their motivations is also pretty good. :)

Thanks :D though I have to admit that I took inspiration from Farscape there which had the crew of Moya inbetween two big villains that were ready to go to war in the show.

Also, as mentioned, I think having the Foothold aliens in the show would be awesome. Lets say the ones in the SGC were just a scouting team which was why they werent capable of fighting against the Goa'uld or something. Doubt its going to happen though but one can dream :(

Johannus
August 27th, 2008, 06:04 AM
What if it turned out to be a variation of the loveable Asgard. Like the Asgard species divided long ago (kinda like the Ancients) and these ones arent quite so friendly. Plus they could have similar levels of technology but still look different.

Having said all this I wouldnt really want this as the main bad guys, but it could be cool to have something like this crop up for an episode or two. Beats more replicators if nothing else.

jrd231
August 27th, 2008, 07:54 AM
I'm sure the replicators will creep up at some point. For some reason the writers just can't help themselves and must crow bar them into the show.

GhostPoet
August 27th, 2008, 12:11 PM
heh...what if it's those aliens we saw in Atlantis in the alternative dimension? :)

GhostPoet
August 27th, 2008, 12:12 PM
Whatever the enemy, let's hope it's something new and bold. Perhaps put a spin on things and have an alien team ala SG-1 but consisting of nasties as the primary nemesis. But it will likely end up being yet another barbaric, ugly, class-based society of bad guys hell-bent on power and destruction. Bo-ring!

Making the Furlings the bad guys would be special. But I can almost certainly say that is just not gonna happen.

Oooh...Anti-SG-1. That would be fun!!

mr_kennedy
August 29th, 2008, 05:50 AM
http://www.gateworld.net/omnipedia/characters/graphics/lavinlucius.jpg

ontopic (sorta) how about this guy for the main baddie of sgu?


oh god not stewie!!!!!!! Bow before the stewie!

hallowed is stewie

Bytor
August 29th, 2008, 07:57 AM
I'll be dissappointed if its just a bunch of singular episodes with no main bad guy or story arcs.

Dimbo_Sama
August 29th, 2008, 08:21 AM
I'm sure the replicators will creep up at some point. For some reason the writers just can't help themselves and must crow bar them into the show.

Well, I know the whole Atlantis Replicators were such a cop out. But there's Replicators showing up millions of lightyears away in Enemies. So I'd like to see the old Bug Replicators every now and then.

Although I don't think there'd be a big baddie in Universe. It just doesn't make sence if they're traveling through the whole Universe.

Infinatus
August 29th, 2008, 11:23 AM
I still don't understand what you mean. Why do you need an ongoing enemy to make a show? I don't understand why you mean by 'what's the point?'.

The show might not attract a very large audience for the exploration aspect alone. A lot of viewers might enjoy the prolonged story arcs involving powerful enemies and imminent danger.

Gollumpus
August 29th, 2008, 11:49 AM
I'm figuring something that is non-humanoid, but is also easy to do over several episodes of a season.

Note: I do not suggest that any of these are a personal fave of mine.:)

1.) Some sort of gaseous entity is one route. The entity can possess someone, and possibly even suck the life-force from them. This allows the writers to use the current cast in different ways. It's also very old school Trek universe.

2.) Perhaps there is a split in the original Earth team. This may be due to some sort of disease or techno-babble device which changes minds and personalitites. Or, this split in the ranks may be something which is slower in development and is the result of social/cultural differences in the crew. Once again, there is a limited cost on effects, make-up prep time and the like.

3.) The Fur... nah, just kidding.

4.) The ship itself. Perhaps Destiny has defence mechanisms which do not play well with humans, even those who have the Ancient gene.

regards,
G.

thekillman
August 29th, 2008, 11:55 AM
well, it'be cool to have a kind of superalliance in a galaxy, and they think we're intruders...

GhostPoet
August 29th, 2008, 11:59 AM
My vote is for a highly organized, military alien army that is run somewhat like how Stargate command runs things...only much more dictatorship-like and a lot more violent.
Oh and there should be A LOT more advanced races...

jenks
August 29th, 2008, 03:41 PM
The show might not attract a very large audience for the exploration aspect alone. A lot of viewers might enjoy the prolonged story arcs involving powerful enemies and imminent danger.

You don't need a main villain to have story arcs or imminent danger...

sgt niallr
August 30th, 2008, 07:18 AM
Scorpius, anyone?


FARSCAPE CROSSOVER!
That would be awesome, you could have Moya, (and obviously Pilot) maybe Jool, Stark, ect


No John or Aeryn though for obvious reasons..