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s09119
August 24th, 2008, 08:37 AM
I do not like the current concept for Universe, but I'm going to attempt to think out what might be a good spin on it so it isn't terrible... I mean, if we're going to have it, might as well try and live with it.

s09119
August 24th, 2008, 08:37 AM
Stargate: Universe
Pilot Episode

FADE IN:

[A great backdrop of stars is the only thing that can be seen. In subtitles, "Millions of years ago..." appears.]

FEMALE VOICE:
(Offscreen)
Once... long, long ago, there existed a race of powerful beings that dominated countless stars. Following a great and terrible war, they fled their homeworld, heading into the void beyond, and carrying with them a dream that would define their kind forever; to spread life, peace, and prosperity, and with it to bring an end to the despair that was all they had ever known.

[Now the camera pans down to reveal a reddish planet tinged with green and blue...]

FEMALE VOICE:
(Offscreen)
When at last they found a place to rebuild their society, they constructed a grand empire that, with time, would stretch from one edge of the known galaxy to the other...

[The camera glides through the clouds of the red planet, revealing the TEMPLE OF DAKARA and a massive city around it. ANCIENT craft are flying about, and it does seem like a true ALTERAN settlement.]

FEMALE VOICE:
(Offscreen)
But one day, that was no longer enough. Their worlds were full, overcrowded with the passage of time.

[The scene of DAKARA changes, now morphing into a city choked with people and ships.]

FEMALE VOICE:
(Offscreen)
And so these ancient peoples decided that this galaxy alone could not sustain them... and looked outward once more, to the stars...

[The camera pulls out, flying past DAKARA and other worlds (amongst them, primative, ANCIENT-owned versions of EARTH, LANGARA, the GOA'ULD HOMEWORLD, TAONAS, etc.) until it at last reaches the edge of the MILKY WAY GALAXY, which can be seen in its entirety now.

Dramatic music builds during this sequence, then fades along with the screen...]

FADE TO: BLACK

[Suddenly, the following appears center-screen.]


Stargate
Universe

FLASH TO: JUNGLE, DAY

[The screen flashes with bright light, and when it fades, a dense JUNGLE appears. In subtitles, "Amazon Jungle, Present Day" appears. Four men and woman, accompanied by a few SOLDIERS, are making their way through the thick underbrush. The sun is high in the sky, and it is obviously quite hot.

The camera zooms in on one man in particular, a white male with brown hair and glasses... DR. DANIEL JACKSON.]

DANIEL:
(wiping brow, to others)
Come on! We've got to be almost there by now!



[B]MITCHELL:
(tiredly)
Jackson, you said that an hour ago, when we were at that nice, beautiful little river crossing...
(sighing)
And now we're here, at this nice, beautiful... nothing.

[DANIEL sighs, pulling an aged book out of his bag. He thumbs through it and turns to a page with an archaic-looking MAP.]

DANIEL:
(off the map)
According to this, the Ancients had a temple complex somewhere in this area... we just need to find it.

[VALA pushes past CARTER and grabs DANIEL, shaking him. She looks tired.]

VALA:
(annoyed)
Daniel, we've been out here for hours. There's no water in sight, and I just drank the very last drop from my canteen. If we don't find this "temple" of yours soon, I'm going to—

[She pauses mid-sentence, listening. The faint trickle of water on rock can be heard.]

VALA:
(excitedly)
Water!

[She rushes off in the direction of the sound.]

DANIEL:
(shouting)
Vala! Wait!

[DANIEL tears off after her, followed by a continually-grinning CARTER and an ever-annoyed MITCHELL. After a short bout of running, VALA leaps out of the jungle into a clearing... revealing a massive WATERFALL sliding down a cliff-face. She greatfully bends down and starts to gulp water.

After a moment, the others arrive.]

DANIEL:
(to VALA)
Vala, what do you think you're doing, exactly?

VALA:
(absently)
Attempting to stave off death-by-dehydration, Daniel. You really should try it sometime.

[Suddenly, there's a low beeping sound.]

MITCHELL:
(looking around)
Anyone else here that, or do I really need a drink, too?

[CARTER reaches to her belt and pulls off an ANCIENT SCANNER. It's lit up and its screen is flashing. Cautiously, CARTER holds it out toward the WATERFALL, and the beeping picks up.]

CARTER:
(re: the WATERFALL)
If I didn't know better, I'd say the waterfall's emitting some kind of energy reading...

DANIEL:
(skeptical)
Sam... a waterfall?

[CARTER shrugs at him, then steps across a few rocks until she's at the foot of the FALLS. The beeping is very loud now, and she starts to slowly move behind the rushing water...]

MITCHELL:
(worried)
Carter! Watch it!

[But she manages to get inside safely, and all that's heard is more beeping as the other SOLDIERS arrive behind SG-1. There's a long pause...]

CARTER:
(offscreen, shouting)
Guys, I think you'd better get in here...

[DANIEL and MITCHELL exchange a look, then DANIEL sighs, grabs VALA, and pulls her toward the FALLS.]

MITCHELL:
(to SOLDIERS)
Stay here and radio us if the SGC makes contact.

SOLDIER 1:
(nodding)
Yes, sir.

[MITCHELL holsts up his P90 and runs after the others.]

CUT TO: INT - WATERFALL CAVE

[CARTER is standing just inside the CAVE with a pleased expression on her face, holding up a P90, with its flashlight on. After a moment, DANIEL and VALA slip inside.]

DANIEL:
(to CARTER)
Alright, what is...

[He trails off as MITCHELL comes in.]

MITCHELL:
(confused)
Guys? What's up?
(looking forward)
Ah, now see, that's what I'm talkin' about!

[The camera pans to reveal an ANCIENT CONTROL CONSOLE, and behind it a RING PLATFORM.]

CARTER:
(muttering)
What better place to hide a temple than within a waterfall... the last place anyone's going to suspect to find some sort of outpost of an advanced society.

[She moves forward to the CONTROL CONSOLE, brushing her fingertips over the raised blocks that act as an interface.]

CARTER:
(absently)
I wonder what it does...

[DANIEL moves past her, to examine the RING PLATFORM.]

DANIEL:
(to CARTER)
Sam, think we should check the place out first?

[CARTER nods, and she, VALA, and MITCHELL move over to the PLATFORM.]

VALA:
(to others)
Okay, if we awaken some evil ancient race in the process of harmlessly exploring, I am so not to blame this time!

[The others all laugh, then DANIEL keys in the correct code and they step inside the RINGS just in time to be transported.]

CUT TO: INT - WATERFALL CAVE, BELOWGROUND

[A RING PLATFORM activates belowground, and SG-1 is transported down. They all raise their P90s to shed some light, but it's not necessary; lighting fictures all around have sensed them and are coming online, revealing an atrium carved from solid stone, with a stone door at the other end of the room.]

DANIEL:
(stepping forward)
Well, this is new.

[He approaches the door and it slides out of the way instantly, as if sensing him. The room beyond is dark.]

MITCHELL:
(coming closer)
Don't get yourself killed now, Jackson.

VALA:
(snorting)
How many times would that make, anyway?

[DANIEL ignores them and steps inside... lights immediately come on to reveal a small PEDASTAL, which immediately begins to radiate light itself. Back in the ATRIUM, CARTER'S SCANNER begins to beep furiously.]

CARTER:
(worried)
Daniel...

[DANEIL waves at her to be quiet, just as the PEDASTAL's light explodes, creating a complex hologram of a GALAXY. A FEMALE VOICE (the same from earlier) begins speaking in ANCIENT.]

FEMALE VOICE:
(in ANCIENT)
Progressio de Fatum Exertus validus totus prestolatio...



MITCHELL:
(entering)
What's it saying?

[CARTER is caught up in scanning the area, and DANIEL replies absently.]

DANIEL:
(translating)
...progress of the "Destiny Project" has exceeded all expectations...
(listening)
...colonization of Milky Way Galaxy completed, colonization of Pegasus Galaxy completed, colonization of Ida Galaxy completed...

CARTER:
(looking up)
Wait a second, [I]colonization?

MITCHELL:
(thinking)
Pegasus and the Milky Way we knew, but I thought only the Asgard lived in Ida?

[The HOLOGRAM now reveals a dozen galaxies, and the VOICE continues.]

DANIEL:
(astonished)
It doesn't mean colonization by people...
(turning)
It's talking about the stargate network... the Ancients established stargates in all of these galaxies!

[The HOLOGRAM pulls out again, and now more than twenty GALAXIES can be seen.]

CARTER:
(astonished)
But that would mean that...

DANIEL:
(finishing for her)
...that there are millions more stargates out there, all of them just waiting for us to find them.

[They all watch in stunned silence as the HOLOGRAM adds more and more GALAXIES, far more than you can easily count.]

Derentus
August 24th, 2008, 09:02 AM
Nice read.

ferrari20092
August 24th, 2008, 09:39 AM
ha nice read, sound enjoyable, however I suggest replacing the names Daniel,:daniel: Vala,:vala: Carter :sam:, and Cameron :cameron: with different names, the time of SG1 is over, we aren't making season 11 of SG1 here. But seriously don't judge SG:U until they've at least chosen every actor and made the script. it's just stupid I have high hopes for Universe, the stargate crew has been doing this a LONG time.

Flyboy
August 24th, 2008, 09:41 AM
ha nice read, sound enjoyable, however I suggest replacing the names Daniel,:daniel: Vala,:vala: Carter :sam:, and Cameron :cameron: with different names, the time of SG1 is over, we aren't making season 11 of SG1 here. But seriously don't judge SG:U until they've at least chosen every actor and made the script. it's just stupid I have high hopes for Universe, the stargate crew has been doing this a LONG time.
I dunno, I think it works. Atlantis was launched from SG1 in an SG1 episode and then in Rising with O'Neill and Jackson in the SGC.

I think SGU would have to either be launched by the SG1 team or the SGA team. (the former imo).

ferrari20092
August 24th, 2008, 09:48 AM
I dunno, I think it works. Atlantis was launched from SG1 in an SG1 episode and then in Rising with O'Neill and Jackson in the SGC.

I think SGU would have to either be launched by the SG1 team or the SGA team. (the former imo).
I guess your right, the writers would have to get the actors to do a cameo though and we all know tapping is very busy filming sanctuary.

Flyboy
August 24th, 2008, 09:51 AM
Not really an issue though, I mean, we KNOW Carter is getting SOME new command, and with the military it's SO easy to say "so and so has been posted here". If they took the SG1 route, in theory you'd only need Shanks and a military escort, meaning Mitchell may be nice, but it could also be Colonel Reynolds, (although wanna bet Jack has some role?). Carter really wouldn't be needed. Or, as is also a possibility, the show directly offshoots from Atlantis, it would also be much easier for the chharacters to be used to spring board SGU, they're already doing SGA stuff.

Mclean
August 24th, 2008, 10:08 AM
That is a nice read and also possible. We know they colonized Pegasus and Milky Way. Also the Asgard in the SG1 episode The Fifth Race said when O'Niell arrived in the Ida Galaxy that the Ancients moved on from their region of space long ago so it is possible that they colonized the Ida galaxy too!

Flyboy
August 24th, 2008, 10:14 AM
That is a nice read and also possible. We know they colonized Pegasus and Milky Way. Also the Asgard in the SG1 episode The Fifth Race said when O'Niell arrived in the Ida Galaxy that the Ancients moved on from their region of space long ago so it is possible that they colonized the Ida galaxy too!
They must have. The Asgard HAD a Stargate.

Theocrat
August 24th, 2008, 10:31 AM
Hi all -
So is that spoiler the real intro? If so, I like the concept.
However, I think that instead of SG-1 finding whatever (because I don't want to spoil the spoiler) or even SGA team finding whatever, what if another SG-Team - say another exploration team besides SG-1, accidentally finds whatever and in reviewing whatever is transported to Destiny?

Once whomever is on the Destiny, will they are able to communicate with the SGC via the Stagate network? Or will the SGC think that they are just dead? If that's the case, then I think it's almost pointless, since whatever new information they find out is useless. But since you can communicate via the Stargate network, they may be able to write something that says that because of the Destiny they can't get back because they can't open the gates to carry matter.

I'm hoping to see more about the SGU to go along with the SG World game. Even with Worlds taking place in SG-1 S8, I think that SGU will allow for some of the Worlds that are visited to be fleshed out in the game - since the world would exist in the SG universe as a whole.

Be Well.
Theocrat Issak
World of Greyhawk

Orion Antreas
August 24th, 2008, 12:17 PM
Excellent, excellent way to open up the series. What better way to introduce the series and have a group of old faces to watch. This was done for Atlantis with O'Neill and Daniel, however, having the SG-1 team there would be great to have. I ain't saying that the entire episode focuses around them, although we would all love that. But they can at least open up this new series and gain SG-1 lovers to watch Universe.

I really like the humor and content you wrote s09119. It is so great that I believe you should send that to the producers. (Although knowing how producers are, they would just look aside. However, I have great respect for Wright and Cooper, so I believe that they "might" look at it.) Who knows, we could actually see your script shown in the pilot. Doubtful, but that would be great.

All I have to say though is, where's Teal'c? Busy working on building up the Jaffa Nation again? Probably. There should be a lil' thing thrown in to give background info on that. :P

Again, excellent job s09119. You have a great talent with writing.

Flyboy
August 24th, 2008, 12:18 PM
Excellent, excellent way to open up the series. What better way to introduce the series and have a group of old faces to watch. This was done for Atlantis with O'Neill and Daniel, however, having the SG-1 team there would be great to have. I ain't saying that the entire episode focuses around them, although we would all love that. But they can at least open up this new series and gain SG-1 lovers to watch Universe.

I really like the humor and content you wrote s09119. It is so great that I believe you should send that to the producers. (Although knowing how producers are, they would just look aside. However, I have great respect for Wright and Cooper, so I believe that they "might" look at it.) Who knows, we could actually see your script shown in the pilot. Doubtful, but that would be great.

All I have to say though is, where's Teal'c? Busy working on building up the Jaffa Nation again? Probably. There should be a lil' thing thrown in to give background info on that. :P

Again, excellent job s09119. You have a great talent with writing.
If he submits it, legally they HAVE to ignore it.

s09119
August 24th, 2008, 02:38 PM
Excellent, excellent way to open up the series. What better way to introduce the series and have a group of old faces to watch. This was done for Atlantis with O'Neill and Daniel, however, having the SG-1 team there would be great to have. I ain't saying that the entire episode focuses around them, although we would all love that. But they can at least open up this new series and gain SG-1 lovers to watch Universe.

Exactly, that's what I was thinking; have the old team really open it up so it's not completely new. Have them lead you into the new guys.


I really like the humor and content you wrote s09119. It is so great that I believe you should send that to the producers. (Although knowing how producers are, they would just look aside. However, I have great respect for Wright and Cooper, so I believe that they "might" look at it.) Who knows, we could actually see your script shown in the pilot. Doubtful, but that would be great.

They have to ignore fanwritings, much as I wish otherwise haha. And thanks, whenever I write fanfiction I try to stick to the characters as much as possible.


All I have to say though is, where's Teal'c? Busy working on building up the Jaffa Nation again? Probably. There should be a lil' thing thrown in to give background info on that. :P

Well he is a politician now. By this time I honestly see him spending more time with the Free Jaffa, especially since the war with the Ori is over.


Again, excellent job s09119. You have a great talent with writing.

Thank you :)

Ikaros
August 24th, 2008, 02:41 PM
I do not like the current concept for Universe, but I'm going to attempt to think out what might be a good spin on it so it isn't terrible... I mean, if we're going to have it, might as well try and live with it.

"If you can't resist sit back and enjoy it"?
I thought that was true for something else........
Or maybe this is the case to...

Yaskaleh
August 24th, 2008, 02:51 PM
That was a good read. Good initation for a thread.

Come on people let's add our opinion for things to make the concept of SGU better. Stories, ideas and characters. Any nasty little secret fantasy?

s09119
August 24th, 2008, 03:11 PM
I'm home and this has more attention that I'd thought it'd get, so...

FADE TO: HARVARD UNIVERSITY, DAY

[The screen fades, and when it returns, the scene has changed. A young WOMAN (seeming to be in her late twenties to early thirties) with shoulder-length brown hair and bright, intelligent blue eyes is walking down the steps of an elegant-looking building. She appears to be about five and a half feet tall, and is carrying a stack of papers that she is thumbing through absently. In subtitles, "Harvard Univeristy, Boston" appears.]

WOMAN:
(to herself)
...lecture at six, dinner by eight-thirty, need to get to bed by at least midnight...

[Suddenly the WOMAN's cell phone begins to ring in her pocket and she stops, sighing. She places her papers on a nearby bench, then pulls out her phone and flip it open. A MALE VOICE begins speaking, though it soudns somewhat familiar...]

WOMAN:
(to phone)
Hello?

MALE VOICE:
(over phone)
Is this Dr. Jane Summers?

[The WOMAN (now revealed to be named JANE SUMMERS) tucks a loose strand of hair behind her ear and frowns.]

SUMMERS:
(to phone)
Yes. Who's this?

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, BRIEFING ROOM

[GENERAL JACK O'NEILL stands in the BRIEFING ROOM of STARGATE COMMAND, holding a phone reciever to his ear. Behind him, DANIEL can be seen talking with a group of civilians.]

O'NEILL:
(to phone)
This is General Jack O'Neill.
(beat)
Dr. Summers, how would you like an opportunity to work for the United States Air Force?

CUT TO: EXT - CHEYENNE MOUNTAIN, DAY

[SUMMERS can be seen exiting a black sedan just outside the security checkpoint at CHEYENNE MOUNTAIN. She's wearing a more formal outfit this time, and has a VISITOR'S BADGE pinned to her chest, which she flashes at a nearby GUARD to gain access.]

SUMMERS:
(looking around, nervously)
Okay... I'm here.

MALE VOICE:
(offscreen)
So you are.

[SUMMERS turns to see a young main with short blonde hair and kind, brown eyes approaching. He, unlike herself, is wearing more casual clothes, though his demeanor seems serious all the same.]

SUMMERS:
(suspicious)
I'm sorry... do I know you?

MAN:
(grinning)
Do now, don't you?

SUMMERS:
(smiling)
This is true.
(extending a hand)
Jane Summers.

MAN:
(shaking hand)
David Collins. Major.

[Suddenly, SUMMERS' expression shifts, no doubt at the mention of his being a MAJOR.]

SUMMERS:
(absently)
Ah, so you're one of those people.

COLLINS:
(raising an eyebrow)
Not a military type, apparently.

SUMMERS:
No, not really.

[She sighs, shaking her head.]

SUMMERS:
(apologetic)
Sorry, really, my father was just mistrustful of the armed forces... I guess more of his paranoia rubbed off on me than I'd thought.

[COLLINS puts his arm around her shoulder, smiling.]

COLLINS:
(grinning again)
Think nothing of it. Personally, I enjoy skepticism. It's healthy.
(whispering)
But make fun of the military and I'll turn you in to the Feds.

[Despite herself, SUMMERS laughs, a wholehearted thing, too. In an instant, the awkwardness is broken.]

SUMMERS:
(laughing)
In that case, I'll be sure to watch myself around you, Major.

COLLINS:
(smiling, tentatively)
On the contrary, I prefer when beautiful young ladies misbehave.

SUMMERS:
(interested)
Am I to assume that is healthy, as well?

COLLINS:
I'd like it if you did.

[The two of them laugh, then turn towards the entrance to CHEYENNE MOUNTAIN.]

COLLINS:
(interested)
So tell me, Doctor, what brings someone like you to Colorado?

SUMMERS:
(explaining)
I was contacted by a General O'Neill about a possible job offer from the Pentagon.
(muttering)
And, of course, it pays more than a consulting job at Harvard.

[MAJOR COLLINS whistles, impressed.]

COLLINS:
(impressed)
Ivy League?
(pretending his hand was burned)
Ouch, you're hot stuff, apparently.

SUMMERS:
(laughing)
Not as hot as you'd think. Degrees in archaeology and cultural studies don't go as far as they used to.

COLLINS:
(sarcastic)
You mean they went somewhere before?

[SUMMERS smiles, but it's clear she's somewhat dissapointed in the road her life has taken. COLLINS notices and stops talking, instead focusing on getting the two of them past security and into the MOUNTAIN itself.]

PAN TO: INT - CHEYENNE MOUNTAIN, SECURITY

COLLINS:
(apologetic)
Sorry, did I strike a nerve?

SUMMERS:
(sighing)
Let's just say I had two paths in front of me... and I chose the one less valued around where I'm from.

[The two of them walk on in silence, heading towards the elevator.]

CUT TO: INT - CHEYENNE MOUNTAIN, ELEVATOR

[COLLINS and SUMMERS are in an elevator, heading downwards. When the level indicator flashes to 27, the doors open, revealing a hallway.]

COLLINS:
(Gesturing)
Ladies first, of course.

SUMMERS:
(smiling)
And they say chivalry is dead.

[She steps out, with COLLINS close behind her, and they head down the HALLWAY.]

SUMMERS:
(curious)
So why are you tagging along with me, anyways?

COLLINS:
(blinking)
I didn't mention? I was ordered down here by the same guy that contacted you... normally, I'm stationed in California.

[SUMMERS looks like she's about to ask another question, but then they round a corner and find themselves in the STARGATE COMMAND BRIEFING ROOM, with GENERAL O'NEILL sitting at the head of the conference table. The window to the GATE ROOM is covered, and the room is otherwise empty.]

O'NEILL:
(checking his watch)
Ah, right on time.
(gesturing)
Please, be seated.

[The two of them sit down at the extreme end of the table, looking somewhat confused.]

SUMMERS:
(nervous)
Not to sound rude, but this is an awfully strange choice of location for a job interview...
(looking around)
A bit too...

O'NEILL:
(guessing)
Spartan?

SUMMERS:
(nodding)
How'd you know?

O'NEILL:
(looking her over)
You remind me of a good friend I used to have... another Doctor, actually, who felt the same way about things...

[O'NEILL looks reflective for a moment, then refocuses.]

O'NEILL:
(to SUMMERS)
So, I assume I don't need to introduce you two?

[SUMMERS and COLLINS exchange a glance.]

COLLINS:
(clearing his throat)
No sir, we met topside.

[O'NEILL claps his hands together with cheer.]

O'NEILL:
(happily)
Excellent!
(beat)
Now, about that job you're both probably wondering about...

SUMMERS:
(confused)
Yes, what, exactly, are we talking about here?

[O'NEILL stands and goes over to the window, thumbing a button. At once, the metal screen over the window retracts.]

O'NEILL:
(grinning)
Well, primarily, we're talking about this.

[SUMMERS and COLLINS rise, looking down into the GATE ROOM... and seeing the STARGATE for the first time.]

COLLINS:
(confused)
What the...?

SUMMERS:
(confused)
General, what is...?

O'NEILL:
(smiling)
We call it a "stargate."
(beat)
Welcome to a whole new world, kids.

[SUMMERS and COLLINS glance at one another, clearly wondering what they've gotten themselves into.]

Yaskaleh
August 24th, 2008, 03:50 PM
More. Give me more :D.

Dagrinch
August 24th, 2008, 04:10 PM
My big problem is saying they want to go in a more BSG direction . A show that may have gotten off to a strong start , but has steadily declined in ratings and even critical praise . To say that BSG has been one big long Starbuck snorefest since they got off New Caprica would be a major understatement . But i digress , the point i am trying to make is why would you want to take a new series in the direction of a series that if it wasnt planned to go off air anyways would more than likely be facing cancellation itself . Then again , SCi-Fi is the place that gave us those Television classics like Pain Killer Jane and Flash Gordon . So we can all rest easy , knowing they have thrown their two cents in on the new show . They have shown repeatedly they know quality televsion and movies when they see it .

Womble
August 24th, 2008, 04:17 PM
I'm home and this has more attention that I'd thought it'd get,
By pure accident, of course. Nothing to do with the fact that you've stuffed it into the General Stargate Discussion rather than into fanfics;)

s09119
August 24th, 2008, 06:22 PM
By pure accident, of course. Nothing to do with the fact that you've stuffed it into the General Stargate Discussion rather than into fanfics;)

There is General Discussion going on in this thread, is there not? :)

s09119
August 24th, 2008, 08:17 PM
:)

CUT TO: STARGATE COMMAND, CONTROL ROOM

[O'NEILL leads SUMMERS and COLLINS down a flight of stairs into the CONTROL ROOM, where numerous people are hard at work.]

SUMMERS:
(confused, to O'NEILL)
What the Hell is this place?
(to COLLINS)
Did you know about this?

COLLINS:
(sarcastic)
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the secret alien hangout on the way down.

[Suddenly serious, O'NEILL stops and turns.]

O'NEILL:
(to COLLINS)
Aliens only hang here half the time, Major.
(beat)
The rest of the time it's usually annoying energy beings.

[COLLINS and SUMMERS stare at him, but O'NEILL continues on, oblivious.]

O'NEILL:
(explaining)
We first figured out how to use the thing in the early '90s, and we've been running Stargate Command out of here ever since...
(heading down some stairs)
I used to be in command, actually.

COLLINS:
(sarcastic)
What happened? Aliens get too much for you?

O'NEILL:
(grinning)
I wish. It'd be a better reason than, "I became an old fart."

[COLLINS laughs as he and SUMMERS follow O'NEILL into the GATE ROOM, a slightly-older man is waiting. He looks to be in his early to mid-30s, and has short black hair and blue eyes, the same color as SUMMERS'. He wears a brown leather jacket and black jeans, and looks almost bored.]

O'NEILL:
(to MAN)
Hey!

[The MAN straitens, losing his bored expression and smiling.]

O'NEILL:
(to COLLINS and SUMMERS)
Kids, meet your fellow... kid.
(to MAN)
Dr. Summers, Maj. Collins, this is Kyle Erikson.

ERIKSON:
(shaking COLLINS' hand)
Pleasure to meet you.
(moving on to SUMMERS)
And it's very nice to meet you.

[COLLINS looks a bit annoyed at ERIKSON's apparent interest in SUMMERS, but grins when she slips her hand out of his rather quickly and turns to O'NEILL.]

SUMMERS:
So what's the job?
(beat)
Impressed as I am with this... star...

ERIKSON:
(matter-of-factly)
Stargate.

SUMMERS:
(continuing)
Yes, thank you... impressed as I am with this set-up you have here, what does it have to do with me?

COLLINS:
(confused)
Or me?

[O'NEILL pauses, looking up to the CONTROL ROOM, where GENERAL HANK LANDRY is standing. The second GENERAL nods.]

O'NEILL:
(explaining)
Okay, let's start at the beginning... there's this race, called the Ancients, and a long, long, long time ago, they colonized this entire galaxy. Earth was actually their homeworld-of-sorts—

SUMMERS:
(interrupting)
What!?

O'NEILL:
(annoyed)
Please hold questions until the end.
(continuing)
Anyway, where was I...
(smiling)
Right, Earth was their big planet, and they actually helped human civilization become what it was. But a plague nearly wiped 'em all out millions of years ago, and they're all gone now for the most part.

COLLINS:
(confused)
I don't see how this affects us yet.

ERIKSON:
(explaining)
The Ancients had something called "Project Destiny," a program to place stargates on every inhabitable world in every galaxy they could find. Before the plague hit, they sent out two ships; one to place the gates and one to follow up afterwards and make sure the process went smoothly.
(beat)
And we think we've located the second one.

SUMMERS:
(holding up a hand)
So, if I understand this right, that would mean—

ERIKSON:
(nodding)
—that would mean that we can get onboard and explore these galaxies ourselves... and the advanced races that no doubt inhabit them.

SUMMERS:
(breathless)
The sheer technological leap that could mean...

O'NEILL:
(chuckling)
We have a fair bit more technology than you see everyday, but yes, that's what it could mean.
(beat)
Wherever the Ancients went, massive advancement usually followed, and we aren't anywhere near their level yet. If we can reach this ship, we may be able to turn it around, bring it back here for study. Or better yet, use it to scout these galaxies.
(beat)
We've never quite had an opportunity like this, not of this scale. We're talking about going farther than any known species has ever managed, meeting people that we never knew could exist until now.

[There's a long pause as SUMMERS and COLLINS absorb this. ERIKSON, obviously in the know, looks on with interest.]

O'NEILL:
(softly)
So, what do you say?

COLLINS:
(immediately)
Count me in!

[Now everyone turns to SUMMERS.]

O'NEILL:
Doctor?

[Another long pause. Then...]

SUMMERS:
(nodding)
Alright. I'll do it.

CUT TO: STARGATE COMMAND, HALLWAY

[Time has passed, and now personnel are rushing up and down the corridors of the SGC, carrying boxes and file folders. The camera pans into the CONTROL ROOM, where LANDRY and O'NEILL watch as equiptment is piled before the STARGATE.]

LANDRY:
(re: the work)
Wow, what a to-do this is turning out to be.

O'NEILL:
(agreeing)
You should've seen it when the Atlantis Expedition left... what a headache that was.

[LANDRY laughs.]

LANDRY:
(re: SUMMERS/COLLINS)
Jack, do you really think they're ready for this? I mean, it's only been a week since they even found out the 'gate existed!

O'NEILL:
(absently)
We've been watching Summers for a while, and Jackson recommended she be part of this team.
(sighing)
As for Collins... it wasn't entirely my choice.

LANDRY:
(interested)
Oh?

[O'NEILL pulls LANDRY aside, further into the CONTROL ROOM.]

O'NEILL:
(quietly)
According to his file, Collins is a bit of a rabble-rouser. They had to yank him back from Iraq because he kept questioning his CO in front of the entire camp.

LANDRY:
(confused)
And he's being let loose halfway across the known universe because...?

O'NEILL:
He does get the job done, he just tends to do it in rather unorthedox ways. The Pentagon was afraid he'd cause a diplomatic incident overseas, but if he's working for the SGC there's not really that problem.

LANDRY:
(chuckling)
Sounds a but like yourself, Jack.

O'NEILL:
(wryly)
A rebel after my own heart.

[They return to the front of the CONTROL ROOM, watching more equiptment pile up.]

CUT TO: STARGATE COMMAND, OFFWORLD READY ROOM

[COLLINS and ERIKSON are strapping on combat gear in the READY ROOM. A few other people are in the area, but they're off in their own section, mostly alone.]

COLLINS:
(curious)
So how'd you get involved with all this?

[ERIKSON picks up a belt and cinches it around his waist.]

ERIKSON:
(explaining)
I was actually informed about the stargate when the Atlantis mission was being put together a few years back.
(smiling)
I was passed over in favor of one Elizabeth Weir.

COLLINS:
(confused)
Who?

ERIKSON:
(sighing)
Another political science expert who, at the time, had one thing I lacked.
(chuckling)
Pure experience in the field.

[COLLINS pauses, holding one boot in the air.]

COLLINS:
(confused)
Wait, you're the commander of this ride?

ERIKSON:
(nodding)
I used to be in the military myself, actually. Royal Air Force.
(grinning)
Far better than your own equivilent, if you ask me.

[The two men laugh.]

COLLINS:
I'm just surprised they're letting a foreigner take command.
(beat)
You certainly don't sound the part.

ERIKSON:
The International Oversight Advisory, aka the people running this nifty little program, decided they wanted a non-American on this one.
(laughing)
And no, I don't, do I? I only lived in Brtain itself a short while, and in truth spent most of my life in various places on varying continents. Never stopped long enough to get a true accent.

[COLLINS opens his mouth to ask something else, but a shrill cry from the other end of the room makes them both stop and stare as SUMMERS nearly falls over attempting to pull on some of her gear.]

COLLINS:
(sighing)
I should help her with that...

[He moves forward, but ERIKSON gets in his way, smiling sweetly.]

ERIKSON:
(grinning)
You need to finish getting geared up. Please, allow me.

[ERIKSON strolls across the room and braces SUMMERS, helping her finish with her gear.]

COLLINS:
(muttering)
British piece of...

[He grabs his boot and angrily shoves his foot into it.]

Nero_200
August 25th, 2008, 01:29 AM
Wow this just gets better and better i hope the actually Pilot of SGU is similar to this script you have written and hopefully we get a character like Major Collins because he sounds like a charming , jealous, hilarious wise cracker.:)

If i get my wish and we get a charcacter like Major Collins i cant see anyone other than Jensen Ackles playing him but he is currently on Supernatural which is filming its 4th Season so he wont be available and i doubt he'd leave Supernatural.

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z43/little_demon_09/Dean14.jpg

kufan76
August 25th, 2008, 02:21 AM
I think it should be set up like this:
Jackson finds a reference to the place where the ancients constructed stargates, and other ancient stuff. They go there and it's a gold mine! Of course Jackson is interested in the books, and he finds the original notebook, we get a glimpse of it in ark of truth, and in there is the secret to the ninth chevron, realizes that it was there on purpose, and it has a nine chevron address in it. The computers at the sgc would have a nervous breakdown, so they go to atlantis, they also go to atlantis so they can bring a jumper along. Dial the address, send a malp, they get viability and go, but they don't realize until they get there that they are on a ship, and not a planet. and there it goes!

Also, the ship should look like the ship that left the Ori galaxy at the beginning of Ark of Truth. I think the guys that made the movie, intentionally made a special shot of the notebook, and the ship.

Womble
August 25th, 2008, 02:59 AM
The computers at the sgc would have a nervous breakdown
And need a therapist. And McKay would have no choice but to build another Fran with Dr. Heightmeyer's personality, who would become a regular.

s09119
August 25th, 2008, 07:53 AM
:jack:

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, MESS HALL



CARTER:
(sitting)
So?

WOMAN:
(raising an eyebrow)
So.

[The young WOMAN picks up a bagel and munches on it thoughtfully.]

CARTER:
(grinning)
Some on, you're not the least bit excited about all this? Hell, [I]I want to go!

WOMAN:
(absently)
Alright, I suppose I'm somewhat interested...

[The two women stare at each other for a long moment, then both laugh.]

WOMAN:
(laughing)
It is exciting, I know. The things we could find out there... am I really qualified for this, Sam?

[CARTER reaches across the table and touches the WOMAN's hands.]

CARTER:
(softly)
Jennifer, you'll be fine. Just trust yourself and remember the things you've learned here.
(smiling)
When you guys come back I expect to see you leading the pack.

[Suddenly we realize that this is JENNIFER HAILEY, who, as a cadet, was on the verge of being kicked from the Air Force due to her rebelliousness and arrogance. Now, years later, she seems much more mature and self-controlled, and she smiles back at CARTER, reassured.]

HAILEY:
(joking)
We can't all be genius Colonels, you know.

CARTER:
(laughing)
Why not genius Majors, then?

HAILEY:
(grinning)
That works.

[The two of them go back to eating their meals in preparation for the start of the DESTINY MISSION.]

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, CONTROL ROOM

[LANDRY seems to have left sometime, and O'NEILL stands in the CONTROL ROOM facing a minitor, on which is an image of DANIEL JACKSON. He appears to be in a rocky structure somewhere... the CAVE in the AMAZON!]

O'NEILL:
(to radio)
Daniel, we do need a gate address sometime within the next few hours... or they'll be a gate room-full of angry geeks here.

CUT TO: EXT - AMAZON JUNGLE, WATERFALL, DAY

[The WATERFALL is now surrounded by Air Force personnel and equiptment.]

CUT TO: INT - ANCIENT TEMPLE

[DANIEL and a dozen other personnel are going over every inch of the ANCIENT TEMPLE. In the background, the HOLOGRAM SG-1 saw earlier is still flashing in mid-air, illuminating the room. DANIEL himself stands before a video uplink, complete with monitor displaying O'NEILL's face.]

DANIEL:
(sighing, to radio)
We're working as fast as we can, but we've only got eight symbols so far; seven new ones and, of course, the point of origin we need to get a lock.

O'NEILL:
(over radio)
"Only"? I thought we only needed eight to dial out of the galaxy...

DANIEL:
(to radio)
That's what I thought, too, but according to the logs we've uncovered upstairs, connecting to the gate-ship requires nine symbols.
(beat)
Jack, we've never used the ninth chevron before. This is... this is huge.

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, CONTROL ROOM

[A few TECHNICIANS are now staring at the screen, having just heard what DANIEL said.]

O'NEILL:
(to radio)
Are we gonna need the ZPM from Antarctica afterall?

DANIEL:
(nodding, over radio)
More than likely, unless by some miracle the ship's decided to come back to the Milky Way.

O'NEILL:
(sighing, to radio)
So this trip's gonna be one-way, like when the Atlantis team left.

DANIEL:
(over radio)
We have more than one module now, Jack, we can always send one with them.
(beat)
And it's not like they're going anywhere. From what we can tell, the logs here are keeping a constant subspace tab on where the ship is. We can dial out to them at any time.

O'NEILL:
(relieved, to radio)
Alright... good... yeah, good.
(beat)
Just hurry up with the last symbol.

DANIEL:
(over radio)
Yessir, will do, General.

[DANIEL grins over the monitor, then the connection cuts off.]

O'NEILL:
(muttering, to himself)
Space monkey...

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, GATE ROOM

[Time phases forward as the people in the GATE ROOM fade out to be replaced by a much larger group of personnel all wearing offworld gear. At the front of the group is SUMMERS and COLLINS, with ERIKSON talking quietly with HAILEY in the distance.

Suddenly, the blast doors open and O'NEILL walks in, flanked by a military man that seems to be in his early 40s.]

O'NEILL:
(to others)
Okay then...

[Everyone continues talking, oblivious to his being there.]

O'NEILL:
(shouting)
Hey!

[Everyone stops talking at once and stares at O'NEILL, confused. Now-MAJOR HAILEY covers her mouth to surpress a giggle.]

O'NEILL:
(awkwardly)
Um... right.
(re: MILITARY MAN)
This is Colonel Richard Donovan. He'll be acting as head military officer for the duration of this expedition.
(seriously)
That means that all military personnel will defer to him, and Expedition leaders...
(glancing at ERIKSON)
...will respect his authority.

[DONOVAN steps forward, attempting to smile in a friendly way. It doesn't seem to have much effect.]

DONOVAN:
(awkwardly)
Look, we're going to be a long way from home, so if you have a problem with following orders or dealing with stress, this is your absolute last chance to back out.
(explaining)
Dr. Jackson has just identified the ninth symbol needed to make a connection to the Ancient gate-ship, and we'll be attempting to dial out in just a few minutes. After that, we won't be seeing Earth for any length of time.

HAILEY:
(stepping forward and addressing the crowd)
That said, we'll have a Zero Point Module—an Ancient power source of immense potential for those not in "the know"—with us, so we can dial home if need be. But for all intents and purposes, we will be alone.

[HAILEY nods at DONOVAN, then steps back into the EXPEDITION GROUP.]

DONOVAN:
(nodding)
Thank you, Major Hailey.
(beat)
This ship we're headed to may have Ancients already onboard... so if we arrive to find a crew waiting for us, we're to turn around immediately and head home unless they say otherwise. The last thing we want to do is alienate what may be the last of a very powerful race just trying to finish their life's work.
(beat)
Understood?

[Everyone grumbles an "okay." DONOVAN steps back and nods to O'NEILL, who, in turn, nods to the CONTROL ROOM.]

PAN TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, CONTROL ROOM

[CARTER sits down at a terminal and starts typing. Almost at once, the monitors light up with nine symbols, and through the window, the gate can be seen dialing up.]

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, GATE ROOM

[SUMMERS starts shaking despite herself, and COLLINS looks on worriedly.]

COLLINS:
(worried)
You okay, Doc?

SUMMERS:
(nervously)
Yeah, fine... it's just... I've never been outside my own solar system before...

COLLINS:
(laughing nervously)
Hey, who needs Monday Night Football anyways, right?

[SUMMERS suddenly looks indignant, and frowns.]

SUMMERS:
(annoyed)
Hey, I like Monday Night Football!

[A few nearby people turn to look at the two, confused.]

COLLINS:
(laughing)
Damn, you're my kind of Doctor!

[The stargate, unnoticed before, locks onto its 5th chevron. On the other side of the room, O'NEILL can be seen heading out through the blast doors, and ERIKSON picks up a duffel bag sitting nearby.]

HAILEY:
(re: the bag)
What's in there?

ERIKSON:
(shouldering it)
Personal items, mostly. Standard clothes, couple of books, etc.
(curious)
What are you bringing along?

HAILEY:
(reflective)
Same, same. Oh, and some work notes, a few models I've been working on for interdimensional travel, my chess set...

[She pauses as she realizes she's sounding quite geeky, then blushes.]

HAILEY:
(muttering)
That could've been said better...

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, CONTROL ROOM

[O'NEILL comes up the steps, glancing down at the fifty-or-so people waiting below.]

CARTER:
(hitting a button)
Chevron seven, encoded...

[The stargate locks onto the seventh chevron, then starts spinning again. The EXPEDITION MEMBERS start to pick up their bags and equiptment.]

O'NEILL:
(excited)
Oh, this should be good.

CARTER:
(rolling her eyes)
You say that about everything, sir.

O'NEILL:
(grinning)
This is true.

CARTER:
(glancing down)
Chevron eight, encoded!

g.o.d
August 25th, 2008, 08:11 AM
great!!!!! They shoould hire you as a new SGU writer!

s09119
August 25th, 2008, 09:48 AM
:sam:

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, GATE ROOM

[All the personnel stop working to watch the gate dial up the point of origin.]

SUMMERS:
(nervous)
Here we...

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, CONTROL ROOM

[Through the window, the ninth chevron can be seen locking into place.]

CARTER:
(excited)
Chevron nine, locked!

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, GATE ROOM

[SUMMERS looks like she's about to finish her statement, but yelps as the STARGATE activates and the "kawoosh" blasts outwards. Almost at once, COLLINS grabs her to keep the young doctor from slamming into someone behind her. Everyone in the room cheers, amazed.]

COLLINS:
(stunned)
Wow... that's...

HAILEY:
(offscreen)
Incredble, right?

[COLLINS and SUMMERS turn to see HAILEY standing with her bag in hand, grinning at them.]

SUMMERS:
(nodding)
Exactly. How'd you...?

HAILEY:
(grinning)
Not my first time seeing it... but I reacted fairly similarly.

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, CONTROL ROOM

[CARTER and O'NEILL exchange a pelased look before the latter leans forward to the microphone.]

O'NEILL:
(to microphone)
Sending in the M.A.L.P.

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, GATE ROOM

[As the M.A.L.P. moves forward up the ramp, COLLINS leans over toward ERIKSON, also standing nearby.]

COLLINS:
(whispering)
What's a M.A.L.P.?

ERIKSON:
(whispering)
Stands for "Mobile Analytical Laboratory Probe." SGC uses them to scout alien worlds for danger and habitability.
(beat)
It's essentially a modified NASA bot.

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, CONTROL ROOM

[Everyone watches the screen as the M.A.L.P. goes through the wormhole. After a moment, the screen flashes, and the interior of a dimly-lit space is seen.]

CARTER:
(absently)
Okay, recieving telemetry...
(beat, to O'NEILL)
Looks stable to me, sir.

[He nods at her.]

O'NEILL:
(to microphone)
Alright, you're in the green boys and girls.
(beat)
Good luck, and we'll talk to you again at your first check-in.

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, GATE ROOM

[DONOVAN picks up his bag and steps up to the ramp, waving for the others to follow.]

DONOVAN:
(shouting)
Come on! Let's move it!

[He goes to take a step but catches his ankle at the last minute. DONOVAN falls heavily, wincing.]

DONOVAN:
(annoyed)
Eh, figures...
(to others)
I said move it! Come on!

[He rubs his sore ankle and watches as a few people walk past him up the ramp, carrying their equiptment, personal belongings, and important pieces of technology.

Nervously, SUMMERS and COLLINS start up the ramp, having been near the front.]

SUMMERS:
(nervous)
Okay, I'm only being demolecularized and sent across the universe, no big deal...

COLLINS:
(nervous)
Yeah, no biggie...

[They step up to the event horizon as someone passes through in front of them. Cautiously, SUMMERS reaches out a hand and touches it.]

SUMMERS:
(amazed)
It's like water...

[Coming up behind them, ERIKSON rolls his eyes and grips SUMMERS and COLLINS.]

COLLINS:
(annoyed)
Hey!

ERIKSON:
(grinning)
Come on... in ya go.

[He pushes the two of them forward then dusts off his hands and walks through himself.]

CUT TO: WORMHOLE TRANSITION

[The blue wormhole typically seen when traveling from Earth appears.]

CUT TO: INT - ANCIENT SHIP, GATE ROOM

[SUMMERS and COLLINS stumble out of the wormhole, breathless. They're in a moderately-sized room, about the size of the GATE ROOM at STARGATE COMMAND, illuminated only by the glow of the event horizon. About a dozen people are standing in front of them, carrying equiptment and fanning out to check the area.]

COLLINS:
(amazed)
Wow!

[There's a shlop behind them, and the two turn to see ERIKSON effortlessly walking through the wormhole, looking calm and collected. A few more personnel enter the ship alongside him.]

ERIKSON:
(smiling)
Have a nice trip?

SUMMERS:
(annoyed)
Oh yeah, I love being shoved into things that rip apart my subatomic structure.

[ERIKSON grins and pulls out his radio.]

ERIKSON:
(to radio)
Stargate Command, this is Erikson. We're here and things seem to be in working order. Keep on sending 'em through for us.

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, GATE ROOM

[More and more people head through the gate. HAILEY is standing by, helping DONOVAN to his feet.]

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, CONTROL ROOM

[There's a sudden beeping from a console, and CARTER frowns at her monitors.]

O'NEILL:
(concerned)
Carter?

CARTER:
(confused)
I don't know, sir, we're picking up some sort of disturbance...

CUT TO: INT - ANCIENT SHIP, GATE ROOM

[SUMMERS is just stepping out of the GATE ROOM itself when the ship suddenly seems to lurch.]

SUMMERS:
(shouting)
Ah!

[She falls to the ground, along with most other people.]

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, GATE ROOM

[Suddenly, the STARGATE's WORMHOLE begins to disconnect, becoming very white. HAILEY sees this, bag still slung over her shoulder, and glances once up at CARTER.]

HAILEY:
(whispering)
Bye, Sam...

[Just before the WORMHOLE fails, HAILEY manages to leap through. Then the STARGATE shuts down, stranding most of the EXPEDITION MEMBERS at the foot of the ramp. DONOVAN looks on in shock.]

CUT TO: INT - ANCIENT SHIP, GATE ROOM

[Just as the WORMHOLE fizzles out, HAILEY comes flying through the event horizon, slamming into ERIKSON and topping them both to the floor.]

ERIKSON:
(annoyed)
What the...!
(beat)
What just happened? Why's the stargate shut down?

[HAILEY stands and extends a hand, pulling ERIKSON to his feet. Across the room, COLLINS and SUMMERS stand, as well.]

HAILEY:
(confused)
No idea. One minute things were fine, and then all of a sudden the wormhole destabilized. I barely made it through.

SUMMERS:
(concerned)
What's that mean? Can't Earth just... re-dial?

ERIKSON:
(nodding)
I hope to God that's what they're doing right now...

COLLINS:
(frowning)
I don't believe in God.

[ERIKSON sighs, turning to COLLINS.]

ERIKSON:
(to COLLINS)
This isn't the best time to make that an issue.
(to radio)
SGC? Stargate Command, do you read? This is Dr. Erikson, do you copy?

CUT TO: STARGATE COMMAND, CONTROL ROOM

[DONOVAN jumps up the stairs from the GATE ROOM, looking furious.]

DONOVAN:
(angry)
What the Hell just happened?

O'NEILL:
(confused)
We have no idea...
(to CARTER)
Do we?

[CARTER presses a few buttons on the console, but nothing of note happens.]

CARTER:
(shaking head)
No clue, sir. The 'gate just... died on us.
(thinking)
Running a diagnostic now...

[O'NEILL and DONOVAN exchange a worried look, then wait for more information.]

Crazy Tom
August 25th, 2008, 10:33 AM
Not ot put a damper on things, but: having the ship jump in the middle of a wormhole conection seems ike a pretty serious design flaw to me. Especialy for a bunch of dudes that make everythign with untold redundancies.

I mean, it would be so easy to have a little program that says: don't jump while the stargate in engaged would do the trick.

BTW: Give us FRAN!:D

thekillman
August 25th, 2008, 11:53 AM
first off: a big gateroom means better gateroom. having it double the SGC size. also, have it have two stairs at each side at the back of the gate. at the front a door leading to a supply room. a jumperbay above the room[or, a kind of jumper]. control room above the door infront of the gate, with an energy shield. have more containment shields across the ship. also, the gate has a gateshield like atlantis. im wondering what colors you are gonna use. i prefer a white gate with blue or orange lights. rest of the ship in typical earth brown colors, with white combined.

RealLantian
August 25th, 2008, 12:51 PM
Having read your script, I was inspited to write my own version. Haven't stolen anything - really! :cameron:

Stargate: Universe
[View of stars panning out through galaxies]
WOMAN NARRATOR: Trillions of years ago, deep in the heart of the Universe, existed a race of beings that inhabited the stars, seeding galaxies with new life. Following a great and terrible war, they fled their galaxy to bring life and existence to a great countless many worlds. This dream continues and now is the prosperity that brings an end to the despair that was all they had ever known.
[Opens to Milky Way and “Earth: Present Day”. Zooms down on top of Cheyenne Mountain Complex]
MCKAY: Awwwh, no look! No, no, no now look what you’ve done - awh, get out of here, go! [Shoo’s technician away]
[Samantha Carter enters]
CARTER: How’s it going Rodney?
MCKAY: Terribly. None! Of the calibrations we’ve made to the circuits are allowing the massive power flow from our new found ZPM’s to the gate’s capacitors.
CARTER: Have you tried increasing the output?
MCKAY: Oh sure, not unless you want ‘more’ fried technicians round here. [Indicated Siler’s burnt hand as he rushed off to the infirmary.] No, at the moment, its like squeezing 30 litres of water through a tiny valve. Uck, can’t see this getting done any time soon.
CARTER: Keep at it McKay. [Carter pats Rodney on the shoulder and proceeds off towards stairs to the briefing room.]
Rodney: awh, yeah, yeah.
[Camera showing Sam climb stairs into briefing room where General Landry and a team are gathered round a table.]
LANDRY: And so, I assume you know that if we get this working, it’ll be a one way trip.
[Landry stands – people turn]
LANDRY: Ahh, Colonel! I was just informing our new team here about the prospects of them travelling over a billion light years to the other side of the Universe. [Goes to pour coffee] I assume you have something to tell me.
CARTER: Yes sir, well, actually we’re still having problems interfacing the new naquadah enhanced circuitary with the gate’s main power couplings. The problem is regulating the power flow between the ZPM’s and the capacitors – without overloading them.
LANDRY: Well, I have every confidence that yourself and Dr. McKay will have the gate working in time. [Sits down with coffee]
CARTER: Yes sir. [Turns to leave]
LANDRY: Oh and Colonel!
CARTER: Yes sir? [Turns back]
LANDRY: Tell Dr. Jackson, I’m ready for him to come and brief our team now.
CARTER: Yes sir. [Smiles and leaves]
LANDRY: Anyway, as I was saying [turns to the team of 5 again] you are our best and brightest people. We need you out there.
[Black walls from behind Landry’s chair to Daniels Lab]
[Daniel is seated behind his desk going through an ancient text book]
[Sam Enters]
CARTER: Ah, hey – watcha doin?
DANIEL: Ahh, hi, erm, … I’m just reading up on one of the Ancient Ships that I recently found on my trip to Atlantis. [Pause] It says here that there was once a ship named the “Destiny” – that 'seeded the known fruits of our expedition with accessibility and wealth'.
CARTER: Meaning?
DANIEL: Well, from what I can decipher, this ship actually went behind the ship that supposedly seeded the Universe with Stargates and acted as a sort of “follow up” to it to… show the worlds which were seeded with gates what the ancients were actually like. [looks up and smiles]. Er, It goes on to say later in the text that the ship, which the ancients would originally visit their seeded worlds in was abandoned some time later because of the war and… other things, but the interesting part is that it could still be following up the original ship even now.
CARTER: Wow, so if this works then, there could be all kinds of information onboard that ship about the ancients and their lives!
DANIEL: Well, who knows? If it is still there, shouldn’t be too hard to find.
[Switch back to control room]
[Enter Carter and Sheppard]
SHEPPARD: How’s it coming Rodney?
MCKAY: Okaay, I think I just about have it. [Button bleeps] Right! You can tell the power room that we’re just about ready to start this up. [Sheppard goes to the phone to tell them]
CARTER: You think this’ll work?
MCKAY: Well, it was a massive job, recreating the ZPM’s power control conduit in Atlantis and reconstructing it to provide adequate power supply for our ZPM’s to interface with Earth’s gate. I don’t even like to think about the sheer amount of power we’ll be channelling through those circuits – I mean one wrongly aligned pathway and this mountain could just erupt in one huge fireball that would not only consume the planet but the entire solar system as well. Er…
[Carter is now looking at his awkwardly]
SHEPPARD: They say they’re ready. [Looks to Carter, then McKay]
MCKAY: Riight. Okay, let’s start this thing up.
[Universe team enters Gateroom]
MCKAY: Initiating nine-chevron dialling sequence
[Does usual Gate lighting up sequence except shows other two Chevrons light up]
[Sparks fly, loud noises and bangs and Kawoosh!]
CARTER, SHEPPARD, MCKAY [Smiles]
[Landry comes down and enters control room]
[Through Microphone]
LANDRY: SGU! You have a go!
[SGU team enters gate]

s09119
August 25th, 2008, 01:12 PM
:daniel:

CUT TO: INT - ANCIENT SHIP, GATE ROOM

[ERIKSON is still yelling into his radio without success, and the few dozen people that made it through all glance at one another with fear.]

ERIKSON:
(to radio, desperate)
Stargate Command!

[HAILEY comes over and gently pulls ERIKSON's hand down, forcing the man to look her in the eye.]

HAILEY:
(softly)
You're making people panic. Calm down.

ERIKSON:
(angry)
We just lost contact with Earth! How do you expect me to calm down?!

HAILEY:
(softy, but harsh)
You're the leader of this expedition, as you reminded us all a dozen times before we stepped through that 'gate. Please kindly act like it!

[Stunned, ERIKSON stands there, not quite sure what to say. HAILEY moves forward, flipping the flashlight of her P90 on and looking from one person to another.]

HAILEY:
(loudly)
Alright, where is everyone? I know I saw more people than this come through.

[One of the nearest MEN steps forward.]

MAN:
(thinking)
The soldiers all headed off to scout the area... they probably don't know the 'gate's been cut off.

HAILEY:
(nodding)
Right then.
(to several MEN)
You four, there on the end, go get the others and bring them back here.
(beat)
Now!

[Four MEN quickly head off into the hallways, holding flashlights. With that out of the way, HAILEY turns to the others.]

HAILEY:
(thinking)
Alright, who, besides me, has any understanding of Ancient technology or language whatsoever?

[About two dozen people raise their hands, then three more tentatively add their own.]

HAILEY:
(pleased)
Okay, those that get the tech aspect, to the left. The linguists, to the right.

COLLINS:
(interrupting)
Major?
(re: himself and SUMMERS)
What about us?

[HAILEY eyes the two of them for a long moment.]

HAILEY:
(seriously)
Stay out of the way and don't touch anything.

SUMMERS:
(annoyed)
Hey!

[COLLINS lets go of SUMMERS, taking an angry step toward HAILEY.]

COLLINS:
(angry)
I rank the same as you, Major, don't think you can treat us that way!

HAILEY:
(angry)
And how much experience with the stargate do you have, huh? Can you translate between Ancient and English? Do you know the fundamental properties of subspace? Can you program a hyperdrive navigational system?
(not waiting for a response)
No, you cannot. The two of you have zero knowledge of anything pertinent right now, so you staying out of the way is completely, 100% necessary! Got it?

[COLLINS stares at her for a moment, then sighs and shrugs.]

COLLINS:
(defeated)
Got it.
(to SUMMERS)
C'mon, Doc, lemme grab your things...

[He picks up SUMMERS' bag as well as his own, and the two move to the side. Just as they leave the general area, though, SUMMERS pauses, turning around.]

SUMMERS:
(sharply)
Wait a sec'!

HAILEY:
(sighing)
What?

SUMMERS:
(coming closer)
What you said... hyperdrive. Is that like hyperspace? In Star Wars or something?

[HAILEY nods, listening.]

SUMMERS:
(thinking)
Look, I'm no expert on these things, but I remember General O'Neill saying that for a stargate to function, you need to be in one place for a protracted period of time.
(beat)
If you move too much, the connection destabilizes.

[Realization dawns on HAILEY, who grins and embraces SUMMERS.]

HAILEY:
(to herself)
Of course!
(grinning)
Summers, you may just be worth it yet!

[She turns and rushes from the room, then doubles back.]

HAILEY:
(to SUMMERS and COLLINS)
Well? Come on!

[COLLINS and SUMMERS shrug and rush after her. In the meantime, a recovered-ERIKSON tries to organize the EXPEDITION MEMBERS that made it through the gate.]

CUT TO: INT - ANCIENT SHIP, HALLWAY

[HAILEY, SUMMERS, and COLLINS are running down a HALLWAY in the SHIP. It's still pitch-black, but with the light from the soldiers' P90s, pale tan walls can be seen. The interior of this ship bears a striking resemblance to that of Aurora-class vessels seen in the PEGASUS GALAXY.]

COLLINS:
(curious)
Where are we going?

HAILEY:
(excited)
Hold on...

[They round a corner and find themselves in a moderately-sized room that acts as a nexus for three different hallways. HAILEY scans the area with her flashlight, focused.]

SUMMERS:
(confused)
What are you looking for?

[Then HAILEY smiles, and crosses the room to what would appear to be a wall. She feels around for a moment and finds a raised piece of metal, then waves her hand over it. Almost at once the room is filled with bright light as the window-covering retracts, revealing the greenish-blue streaks of HYPERSPACE.]

SUMMERS:
(stunned)
It's... it's beautiful.
(beat)
What is it?

HAILEY:
(nodding)
Hyperspace.
(smiling)
You were right, Doctor. You were right...

[The three of them stand there for a moment, watching the colors swirl by.]

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, CONTROL ROOM



[B]DONOVAN:
(anxious)
Anything?

CARTER:
(sighing)
No, nothing. The problem's on their end, not ours.

O'NEILL:
(quickly)
Re-dial.

[CARTER nods, activating the STARGATE's dialing protocols.]

CARTER:
(tapping a button)
Re-dialing address...

[The STARGATE begins to spin again. In the meantime, O'NEILL goes to a monitor in the back of the room and flips a switch. DANIEL's back can be seen.]

O'NEILL:
(to radio)
Daniel!

[The archaeologist turns around, smiling into the camera.]

DANIEL:
(over radio)
Jack! I take it things went well?

O'NEILL:
(sighing, to radio)
No, not exactly.

DANIEL:
(frowning, over radio)
Why does that not surprise me. What happened?

O'NEILL:
(to radio)
About forty people made it through the 'gate and then it just cut out. The wormhole fell apart right in front of our eyes.
(glancing at CARTER)
We're trying to re-connect now.

DANIEL:
(over radio)
Ah. Anything I can do?

O'NEILL:
(to radio)
Actually, yeah. I have a theory I'd like you to test...
(beat)
You said that the control console in the temple was tracking the current position of the ship, right?

[DANIEL nods.]

O'NEILL:
(to radio)
Check and see if it's in the same place it was when it spit out those coordinates we used.

CARTER:
(in the background)
Chevron seven, encoded...

CUT TO: INT - ANCIENT TEMPLE

[In the upstairs of the TEMPLE, the RING PLATFORM activates, and DANIEL appears. He nods to a few scientists working nearby, then stands in front of the CONTROL CONSOLE, depressing a few of the block-buttons.

A screen lights up in front of him, with ANCIENT writing all over it and a set of STARGATE SYMBOLS beneath.]

DANIEL:
(to radio)
Jack, it's me... the symbols are different.

CUT TO: INT - STARGATE COMMAND, CONTROL ROOM

[DANIEL's voice comes over the intercom just as CARTER announces the ninth chevron is about to lock...]

CARTER:
(worried)
Chevron nine...

[The STARGATE's final chevron opens... and then closes without lighting. All the other chevrons fade, as well. They didn't get a lock.]

CARTER:
(defeated)
...does not lock.

[She and O'NEILL stare at one another, worried.]

DANIEL:
(over radio)
Jack, the coordinates keep changing every second... there's no way this is right.

O'NEILL:
(to radio)
Oh, but there is.
(worried)
The ship jumped into hyperspace. They're out of our reach.

unluckynumber11
August 25th, 2008, 06:13 PM
wow very good, you really capture the likeness of the characters, i hope the series is like this, you've renewed my faith in what the potential of sgu holds.

s09119
August 25th, 2008, 08:28 PM
wow very good, you really capture the likeness of the characters, i hope the series is like this, you've renewed my faith in what the potential of sgu holds.

Thanks, I'm trying to make the best of something I'm not too excited about.

CUT TO: INT - ANCIENT SHIP, GATE ROOM

[SUMMERS, COLLINS, and HAILEY enter the GATE ROOM again, and this time it's full of everyone that managed to make it through; about fifty people in all, roughly split between soldiers and civilians.]

HAILEY:
(to ERIKSON)
This everyone?

[ERIKSON seems to have regained his composure, and is once again the image of self-assuredness.]

ERIKSON:
(nodding)
Fifty-three in all. Luckily, the first ones through were carrying most of the equiptment, so all we're really lacking are the spare M.A.L.P.s and trivial things.
(beat, serious)
And, unfortunately, we have next to no food.

[Everyone shifts uncomfortably; this is not a good situation.]

COLLINS:
(speaking up)
How much food do we have, exactly?

[ERIKSON glances toward one of the nearby soldiers, a younger man in his mid- to late-twenties. The soldier looks over the supplies stacked nearby and shrugs.]

SOLDIER:
For this many people? I'd guess a few days' worth.
(wincing)
Most of the stuff was with the second half of the platoon.

ERIKSON:
(sighing)
Thank you, Arouca.

[The soldier, AROUCA, nods once, then leans over to whisper something in one of the other SOLDIERs' ears.]

HAILEY:
Well I'm not going to stand here and do nothing.
(annoyed)
And personally, I prefer lighted work spaces.

[She glances up at the ceiling, but the light fictures remain inactive.]

SUMMERS:
(nodding)
We should find the bridge. Or at least some sort of secondary control console.

[COLLINS, ERIKSON, and HAILEY all look at her in awe.]

SUMMERS:
(confused)
What? I have been paying some attention, you know.

HAILEY:
(smiling)
In any event, you're right. We need to get control of this ship and drop it out of hyperspace long enough to 'gate back to Earth.

[Just then, ERIKSON steps forward, the look on his face grim.]

ERIKSON:
(worried)
Major, about that...

HAILEY:
(annoyed)
What?!
(realizing)
Oh, oh no...

[ERIKSON nods, looking glum.]

ERIKSON:
(explaining)
The ZPM is back on Earth. It never made it through the 'gate.

COLLINS:
(worried)
So what you're saying is...?

ERIKSON:
(nodding)
We're stranded.

CUT TO: EXT - HYPERSPACE

[A small portion of the ANCIENT SHIP can be seen passing by. It continues to resemble the material used in construction of Aurora-class ships, but the design, from the tiny area we're seeing, looks different.]

CUT TO: INT - ANCIENT SHIP, HALLWAY

[SUMMERS and HAILEY are walking down a HALLWAY within the ship. This time around, SUMMERS has been given a P90 of her own, though she continually glances at it with worry. HAILEY, meanwhile, seems completely focused on the task at hand.]

SUMMERS:
(cooly)
So... how long have you been with the Stargate Program?

HAILEY:
(absently, matter-of-factly)
Seven, eight years. Colonel Carter recruited me straight out of the Academy.

SUMMERS:
(put off)
Oh. Right.

[They continue walking in silence for a moment, an uncomfortable void forming. Finally, SUMMERS tries again.]

SUMMERS:
(friendly)
Anyone special back home?

HAILEY:
(quickly)
No.

[SUMMERS looks away, annoyed. HAILEY glances over and seems to re-evaluate the young Doctor.]

HAILEY:
(apologetic)
What about you?

SUMMERS:
(quickly)
Nope. No one here, either.

[Another long pause ensues.]

HAILEY:
(slowly)
So... two beautiful women light-years from home, with nothing to go back to.
(grimly)
They sure no how to pick these Expedition members.

SUMMERS:
(smiling)
Who says there isn't anyone here for us?

HAILEY:
(smiling)
I suppose there's always that option.

[They turn a corner and find themselves blocked by a door. The HALLWAY continues to curve around , but this door seems important. HAILEY stops in front of it and hands her P90 to SUMMERS.]

HAILEY:
(re: P90)
Here.

[SUMMERS takes the second weapon gingerly, aiming it so the two flashlights converge on the door's acces panel. HAILEY flips out a combat knife and pries off the panel's cover, exposing ATLANTIS-esque control crystals.]

HAILEY:
(muttering)
What is it with alien races and crystals...?

SUMMERS:
(absently)
Hmmm?

HAILEY:
(sighing)
Nothing.

[Suddenly, HAILEY's radio buzzes.]

COLLINS:
(over radio)
Major Hailey? You two there?

[HAILEY sighs, putting away her knife and picking up her radio.]

HAILEY:
(annoyed, to radio)
Yes, Connor? What is it?

CUT TO: INT - ANCIENT SHIP, HALLWAY

[COLLINS and ERIKSON are likewise walking down a HALLWAY, both carrying P90s themselves. COLLINS frowns.]

COLLINS:
(annoyed, to radio)
It's "Collins."

HAILEY:
(annoyed, over radio)
Whatever. What?

COLLINS:
(to radio)
Dr. Erikson here...
(glancing at ERIKSON)
...wants to know if he can count on your men obeying his orders.

CUT TO: INT - ANCIENT SHIP, HALLWAY

SUMMERS:
(muttering)
What, do these guys have inferiority compelxes?

[HAILEY snorts.]

HAILEY:
(to radio)
I thought you wanted joint military command, Collins.

COLLINS:
(over radio)
For now I'm letting the issue go.
(beat)
For now.

HAILEY:
(amused, to radio)
Of course.
(beat)
And they'll listen to Dr. High-horse so long as I tell them to.

CUT TO: INT - ANCIENT SHIP, HALLWAY

[ERIKSON taps his headset, linking himself into the conversation.]

ERIKSON:
(annoyed, to radio)
Is that a threat, Major?

HAILEY:
(innocently, over radio)
Me? Threaten you?
(beat)
No. Never.
(beat)
Either way, is it really prudent to be squabbling over "he says, she says" when our lives are, quite literally, hanging in the balance?

ERIKSON:
(annoyed, to radio)
This isn't the last time we'll have this discussion.

CUT TO: INT - ANCIENT SHIP, HALLWAY

HAILEY:
(grinning, to radio)
Oh, I'm counting on that.
(beat)
Hailey and Summers out.

[She flips off her radio and tucks it away, then goes back to attempting to slice the CONTROL PANEL.]

SUMMERS:
(amused)
Was that entirely necessary?

HAILEY:
(absently)
Baiting him?

SUMMERS:
(nodding)
Yeah.

[HAILEY turns around and grins at SUMMERS.]

SUMMERS:
(grinning)
Totally.

[SUMMERS laughs, then lets HAILEY get back to work.]

CUT TO: INT - ANCIENT TEMPLE

[On EARTH, DANIEL is still at the ANCIENT CONTROL CONSOLE in the TEMPLE, trying to get useable coordinates so the SGC can re-dial the ANCIENT SHIP. The screen nearby keeps showing a different set every few seconds, indicating the SHIP is still moving through hyperspace.]

DANIEL:
(to himself)
Come on... come on...!

[He bangs his fist into the CONSOLE angrily.]

Crazy Tom
August 26th, 2008, 04:39 AM
Noooooo! He's american! That never works for americans!:P

stargatefan234
August 26th, 2008, 04:49 AM
They must have. The Asgard HAD a Stargate.

and not just a stargate, A MILKY WAY STARGATE

jonos101
August 26th, 2008, 11:24 AM
I really like this (like most of your work) and I love the way you are using Hailey. But all the work your doing you could be finishing Avalon, lol. Also the name Jane Summers sounds familiar. ;)

s09119
August 26th, 2008, 12:42 PM
I really like this (like most of your work) and I love the way you are using Hailey. But all the work your doing you could be finishing Avalon, lol. Also the name Jane Summers sounds familiar. ;)

There're only so many names that sound right, jonos :P

jonos101
August 26th, 2008, 02:37 PM
There're only so many names that sound right, jonos :P

Tell that to the 6 Billion people on this planet. :p

thekillman
August 27th, 2008, 09:11 AM
arg. need more. need more.

and s09, please update your first post with the chapters

Ikaros
August 27th, 2008, 12:14 PM
I do not like the current concept for Universe, but I'm going to attempt to think out what might be a good spin on it so it isn't terrible... I mean, if we're going to have it, might as well try and live with it.

Thinking of this .... it's impossimple..
.making the best out of a BAD concept... how good can it be?The best of bad is ..Terrible?
Stargate is over. This is a new thing. They put a stargate brant on it and they're trying hard to make you people have it.
Well have it.. with health and potato chips....

thekillman
August 28th, 2008, 11:28 AM
i think SGU is good, people are cross cause of the SGA cancellation, and blame SGU for it.

Ikaros
August 28th, 2008, 11:50 AM
They came to a point where they had to pick and they picked Universe. It's enough reason for me. That's in Brad Wright's interview. They picked a mixed sci fi-soap opera thing instead of the real sci fi.

moomin81
August 28th, 2008, 12:32 PM
They came to a point where they had to pick and they picked Universe. It's enough reason for me. That's in Brad Wright's interview. They picked a mixed sci fi-soap opera thing instead of the real sci fi.

And thats meant to be a good thing? Give me real sci-fi any day.

jenks
August 28th, 2008, 01:35 PM
There's no distinction between the two, or at least neither is more Sci Fi than the other.

GhostPoet
August 29th, 2008, 11:05 AM
I'm giving it a chance...but it has A LOT to prove.

Ikaros
August 29th, 2008, 02:00 PM
And thats meant to be a good thing? Give me real sci-fi any day.

i don't say it's a good thing, i say it is not ;/.
they picked a show that is more like BSG so that the channel could keep those kind of fans to, now that BSG is ending.
Atlantis might be the last one stanting, for a while...

Ikaros
August 29th, 2008, 02:13 PM
There's no distinction between the two, or at least neither is more Sci Fi than the other.

Yes there is.
Having people in space, talking about theology and pseudofilosophy while f.....g and killing eatch other, isn't sci fi.They could do all this anyplace alse and be anykind off show.
Having paople exploring and expanding in another Galaxy is sci fi. If they also doing it with humor and acceptable language and manners, well that is more than good sci fi, that's good tv. It seems it's not in fashion any more.
It seems that we must follow the dark side or stay away.
It is amazing that every good sci fi show that had something more in it than just f**g and killing,had to be cut before it's time.

jenks
August 29th, 2008, 02:47 PM
Yes there is.
Having people in space, talking about theology and pseudofilosophy while f.....g and killing eatch other, isn't sci fi.They could do all this anyplace alse and be anykind off show.
Having paople exploring and expanding in another Galaxy is sci fi. If they also doing it with humor and acceptable language and manners, well that is more than good sci fi, that's good tv. It seems it's not in fashion any more.
It seems that we must follow the dark side or stay away.
It is amazing that every good sci fi show that had something more in it than just f**g and killing,had to be cut before it's time.

Sci Fi is about exploring the human condition using settings and circumstances that are brought about using fictional science. It's got nothing to do with space ships or ray guns necessarily. It's the characters reactions to their situations that makes Sci Fi what it is, not shooting aliens.

Platschu
August 29th, 2008, 02:51 PM
I hope the crew will form different groups, so they won't agree in everything.
- Maybe there should be some alien guests from earlier SG-1 / Atlantis episodes, maybe they captured new ones to study.
- Maybe there were an earlier crew of Destiny and somebody stayed alive in stasis pod.
- Maybe the Destiny has an own backstory, so they can find out, what happened in the galaxies in the last few thousand year.
- Maybe different races visited the ship, because it is a "diplomatic vehicle", who left some item / technology / written computer or hologram program, which will have effect on the team and the journey.
- Maybe some civil human were trapped on the board, so they will antagonist of the military type characters.
- Maybe there will be different human races, classes, religions. But SG was never a space drama show, so I don't believe BW and RCC want to move the franchise in this way.

Laura Dove
September 3rd, 2008, 01:09 PM
s09119, you really are a good writer. You managed to arouse my interest for SGU, although what I fear most is the lack of recurring aliens and story arcs. The ankle twisting was a bit obvious but other than that, it's very pleasant to read!

Ikaros
September 3rd, 2008, 02:58 PM
Sci Fi is about exploring the human condition using settings and circumstances that are brought about using fictional science. It's got nothing to do with space ships or ray guns necessarily. It's the characters reactions to their situations that makes Sci Fi what it is, not shooting aliens.

Did i say anything about shooting alliens and space ships?
Can't people explore science and other galaxies while using nice language and manners? while they're not trying to manipulate audience's minds with false religions and false philosophy? while they're not screwing with childrens minds?

jenks
September 4th, 2008, 01:53 AM
Did i say anything about shooting alliens and space ships?
Can't people explore science and other galaxies while using nice language and manners? while they're not trying to manipulate audience's minds with false religions and false philosophy? while they're not screwing with childrens minds?

Scifi is about people, not science. Fictional science is just a tool. As for nice language and manners, are you serious? How about we're all adult about it instead. False religions? It's fiction. False philosophy? Is there such a thing? And who's screwing with children minds? Now I don't like BSG anymore, but they definitely approached scifi the right way in the beginning (before the show was drowned out with political messages from the writers), I honestly don't understand why people complain about adult situations and 'bad' language, seriously, what's the problem with it?

thekillman
September 4th, 2008, 04:02 AM
not everyone can be this perfect being who doesnt smoke, drink, and swear, or any or a combination of the three

MechaThor
September 4th, 2008, 04:32 AM
I am really looking forward to Universe and am not mad that they are making it one bit. Infact I am really happy. Stargate Atlantis had run its course, it had 100 Episodes which is a great Milestone and we should be be proud. Atlantis was at the perfect point to end the show. I will miss it greatly but I am still really happy they they will carry on the Stargate franchise I love so much with a new and fresh show.

I would rather have a new series than none at all, and as being a Stargate Fan from the start I will look at Universe with open arms and welcome it next Summer. I Love Stargate, so I am sure I will love Universe too.

thekillman
September 5th, 2008, 06:31 AM
* impatiently waits for the next chapter*

Ikaros
September 6th, 2008, 01:08 PM
Scifi is about people, not science. Fictional science is just a tool. As for nice language and manners, are you serious? How about we're all adult about it instead. False religions? It's fiction. False philosophy? Is there such a thing? And who's screwing with children minds? Now I don't like BSG anymore, but they definitely approached scifi the right way in the beginning (before the show was drowned out with political messages from the writers), I honestly don't understand why people complain about adult situations and 'bad' language, seriously, what's the problem with it?

Sci fi is about people and NOT science?
OK whatever.
I guess that you haven't noticed that in SGA the science that was mentioned was REAL and not fictional.Real in theory and some times not only in theory. Real science is 50 years ahead of what you know it is.
Yes there are false religion and filisophy conversations in BSG. And yes Philosophy and religion OFTEN go together with FALSE.And thats when they shouldn't be introduced to ages under 20.
I am glad you noticed at least the political messages.They wheren't the only ones though.
About adult situations and bad language i'll only say that :
"yestarday i went a walk over the hills where i found a nice bush with a fountain. I thought the view was wonderfull and i sat there admiring it.After a while i felt thirsty and went in for a drink, the ground really helped me since it was easy going and with a little push i reached the bush"
You see, there is an adult way to be adult , and an anudult one. Since this kind of shows is watched by children they should have thought of what they where showing to them.

Blistna
September 6th, 2008, 06:42 PM
i don't say it's a good thing, i say it is not ;/.
they picked a show that is more like BSG so that the channel could keep those kind of fans to, now that BSG is ending.
Atlantis might be the last one stanting, for a while...

To tell you the truth, it was Sci Fi who said they are going to do that, not MGM nor writers. As far as I know, the writers, especially ones who are good, have some choice in the matter of what happens.

Plus, I think having a little BSG mixed in with a little Stargate intrigue might work well, and thats coming from someone who couldn't watch BSG. Couldn't even finish one episode.

jenks
September 7th, 2008, 02:05 AM
Sci fi is about people and NOT science?
OK whatever.
I guess that you haven't noticed that in SGA the science that was mentioned was REAL and not fictional.Real in theory and some times not only in theory. Real science is 50 years ahead of what you know it is.
Yes there are false religion and filisophy conversations in BSG. And yes Philosophy and religion OFTEN go together with FALSE.And thats when they shouldn't be introduced to ages under 20.
I am glad you noticed at least the political messages.They wheren't the only ones though.
About adult situations and bad language i'll only say that :
"yestarday i went a walk over the hills where i found a nice bush with a fountain. I thought the view was wonderfull and i sat there admiring it.After a while i felt thirsty and went in for a drink, the ground really helped me since it was easy going and with a little push i reached the bush"
You see, there is an adult way to be adult , and an anudult one. Since this kind of shows is watched by children they should have thought of what they where showing to them.

Why not? Because they're too stupid to think for themselves? If that's true then why not ban any references to religion on TV all together, is that whatyou want?

Ikaros
September 7th, 2008, 09:48 AM
What i want is when i watch sci fi i can watch people dealing with Science and Fiction. People under 20, usually, can't think for themselves.
And if there where to be any references to other things,religion and philosophy,and in their worst forms, shouldn't be among them. Those two in particular DO NOT mingle with Science.
You said you noticed the political propaganda, don't you know that best politics are the politics of the churches?Any church, any religion, None of them has nothing to do with science.

jenks
September 7th, 2008, 12:36 PM
What i want is when i watch sci fi i can watch people dealing with Science and Fiction. People under 20, usually, can't think for themselves.

Rubbish.


And if there where to be any references to other things,religion and philosophy,and in their worst forms, shouldn't be among them. Those two in particular DO NOT mingle with Science.
You said you noticed the political propaganda, don't you know that best politics are the politics of the churches?Any church, any religion, None of them has nothing to do with science.

I don't know what that means.

jonos101
September 7th, 2008, 11:41 PM
What i want is when i watch sci fi i can watch people dealing with Science and Fiction. People under 20, usually, can't think for themselves.
And if there where to be any references to other things,religion and philosophy,and in their worst forms, shouldn't be among them. Those two in particular DO NOT mingle with Science.
You said you noticed the political propaganda, don't you know that best politics are the politics of the churches?Any church, any religion, None of them has nothing to do with science.

I find that quite offensive.

thekillman
September 8th, 2008, 12:04 AM
People under 20, usually, can't think for themselves.

agreed.

look, religion is the best way to keep people together. i believe tom said, there's something like intelligent design. its science, and could be used as religion. a god which created the universe, left, and let it develop, or so. ori combined science with religion. its just stupid of them how they did it. just say they were the ultimate race wich came first, and the ancients were an evil offshoot which must be terminated