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Flyboy
August 19th, 2008, 03:01 AM
...another nation took control of the stargate programme, as has been hinted at in several seasons of SG1, particularly the Chinese? Would you be more or less willing to watch the show if complete control of the gate was handed to an International Body (NOT the IOA, but a similar organisation to NATO)?

Jeff O'Connor
August 19th, 2008, 03:04 AM
I'd be just as willing, personally. Though the 'spirit', to a point, of the franchise, would be significantly altered in such an instance, it could be argued that it'd be a lot less than would initially seem. If it's really about international exploration as has been emphasized time and again past the first few seasons of SG-1, such a move would almost seem a bit natural.

It'd just still seem terribly out-of-place to me.

x_stargatergirl_x
August 19th, 2008, 03:11 AM
I would watch it just to see what it would be like, and how well they would run it. But if another country would run the stargate program, would SG-1 still be there, since it is stargate sg1? Also what would happen if the country to take over talked in another language, subtitles for all the people that speak english? It would be very interesting indeed, but weird.

Flyboy
August 19th, 2008, 03:15 AM
Well SG1 as a show is gone anyway, so no it wouldn't be, but the Chinese IOA official asked Daniel if he'd work for them, so we could assume there'd be non-chinese nationals, in otherwords, English would be used for the most part, but like Zelenka you can guarantee some muttering and swearing in Chinese for example.

Jack_Bauer
August 19th, 2008, 03:21 AM
...another nation took control of the stargate programme, as has been hinted at in several seasons of SG1, particularly the Chinese? Would you be more or less willing to watch the show if complete control of the gate was handed to an International Body (NOT the IOA, but a similar organisation to NATO)?

I would not watch the show, period. Stargate is the Air Force and always has been.

Flyboy
August 19th, 2008, 03:30 AM
I would not watch the show, period. Stargate is the Air Force and always has been.

Stargate Atlantis isn't about the Air Force though, even the majority of military personnel are not the Air Force, they're Marines.

Besides, who's to say the Chinese wouldn't be operating it under their air component? Or do you mean it's USAF only? In that case I think you're being a little closed minded, no offence (honestly). As a Brit I've been enjoying British based sci fi AND US based sci fi, are you saying you couldn't enjoy a DIFFERENT stargate show that didn't star America, but merely featured America as a co-star?

Jack_Bauer
August 19th, 2008, 03:32 AM
Stargate Atlantis isn't about the Air Force though, even the majority of military personnel are not the Air Force, they're Marines.

Besides, who's to say the Chinese wouldn't be operating it under their air component? Or do you mean it's USAF only? In that case I think you're being a little closed minded, no offence (honestly). As a Brit I've been enjoying British based sci fi AND US based sci fi, are you saying you couldn't enjoy a DIFFERENT stargate show that didn't star America, but merely featured America as a co-star?

I'm saying... think Tibet...

Imperial_Prince
August 19th, 2008, 03:33 AM
I would not watch the show, period. Stargate is the Air Force and always has been.

With a username like Jack Bauer I would'nt doubt you. :)

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I would still watch it if it became a European or Japanese thing... I would absolutely be watching it if it became an Australian thing but being the insignificant country we are on the global scale of things... that would be just weird.

If it was any other nation, I would be hesitant.

Madwelshboy
August 19th, 2008, 03:37 AM
I would not watch the show, period. Stargate is the Air Force and always has been.

ymmm...... the Chinese have an air force lol

Jack_Bauer
August 19th, 2008, 03:39 AM
ymmm...... the Chinese have an air force lol

pardon me, i meant the USAF

Flyboy
August 19th, 2008, 03:50 AM
pardon me, i meant the USAF
Yes indeed, Tibet is an attrocity. Maybe it's just me, but I LOVE the politics in the Gateverse, my favourite ep is Full Alert, and I loved Disclosure and later seeing efforts from the Chinese to undermine the US. If you ask me, the gate being put under Chinese control would add a whole new level of political intrigue to the show, both the US and the Chinese have done morally questionable things, but the Chinese ones are more obvious, particularly when we consider that they don't play ball with the UN. I think it would be an interesting direction, not because I like China, but because of the conflict it would cause.

I don't see any other nation getting the gate, certainly not Britain (though my interests obviously lie there), nor Europe as a whole, and that doesn't matter to me, it wouldn't make sense in the show's world, it would be out of the frying pan and into the fire. The US has no right to represent the world in such a way, but then neither does Britain. Neither does China, BUT I think it's conceivable within the show that it could happen and would be interesting because of the problems it would cause. I certainly think it would be a much more intelligent show in some ways.

But still, as I said, SGA wasn't the Air Force...

NKDietrich
August 19th, 2008, 05:07 AM
The SGC is Cheyenne Mountain, period. I don't have any problem with them staffing it with a multi-national team, but just moving it to another country does not solve the inherent problem of a single country having control of the gate, and would just be pointless and detract from the feel of the show.

Besides, I don't think the next series is going to be set in the SGC anyway.

Flyboy
August 19th, 2008, 05:08 AM
I didn't say it would solve anything. I said it would be interesting.

unluckynumber11
August 19th, 2008, 05:14 AM
it should go to africa......think about it.;)

Jack_Bauer
August 19th, 2008, 05:20 AM
it should go to africa......think about it.;)

hmmmmmmm....

Sealurk
August 19th, 2008, 06:24 AM
Yes indeed, Tibet is an attrocity. Maybe it's just me, but I LOVE the politics in the Gateverse

Nope, it's not just you. I also think one of Stargate's strengths lay in its political stories and arcs. More (or some) of these would make me happier about Atlantis, too.


I don't see any other nation getting the gate, certainly not Britain (though my interests obviously lie there)

A British spin on Stargate could be interesting, but then I too am biased. I wonder why the UK hasn't featured more in Stargate, beyond a few Wraith-fodder and the occasional blink and you'll miss it Union Flag or a dull, vanilla IOA rep. More potential for political intrigue there - are we Brits as reliable an ally in the Gateverse, or do we also have an agenda - or do the US just not want to share?


The US has no right to represent the world in such a way, but then neither does Britain. Neither does China, BUT I think it's conceivable within the show that it could happen and would be interesting because of the problems it would cause. I certainly think it would be a much more intelligent show in some ways.

But still, as I said, SGA wasn't the Air Force...

It would certainly be interesting for Atlantis if the Stargate changes hands, if only for a short time.

Given Stargate's global appeal and fanbase, an increased international presence or feel to the franchise seems logical, and desirable, except for the occasional difficulty of casting.

I would still watch Stargate regardless of which nation has the gate in the show, and as has been mentioned, a gate-centred power struggle, possibly even with the Stargate changing hands for a while, could be very interesting. The only things that would stop me watching Stargate are bad writing and tired, repetitive plots. And SGA S5 is starting tonight here in the UK, so I'll see if it fits that description.

DesertFox2020
August 19th, 2008, 07:12 AM
I will keep watching SG as long as it's on air, but I won't like it as much if China were put in charge. Is it really good for communists to be representing Earth? Now, on the other hand, NATO could take it over, and that would be fine, but I don't like the idea of it being moved. It should stay in Cheyenne Mountain. But the SGC levels of it will now be a NATO run multi-national military installation, not unlike a foreign embassy, or Atlantis. That's how I'd like to see it, if the US must be takien out of power. (being American I would like them to stay in charge)

Ripple in Space
August 19th, 2008, 07:52 AM
I'd watch Stargate: Kazakhstan starring Borat.

NIMBUS
August 19th, 2008, 08:00 AM
lool borat could fight in the first line against warith, because they would be scared what whould happen to them if they would suck him :D

Bekah See
August 19th, 2008, 08:33 AM
...another nation took control of the stargate programme, as has been hinted at in several seasons of SG1, particularly the Chinese? Would you be more or less willing to watch the show if complete control of the gate was handed to an International Body (NOT the IOA, but a similar organisation to NATO)?

letmethinkaboutthatno

ummmmmmm.....no

did i mention, NO??

But I'm not opinionated or anything ;)

Like it or not, Stargate's primary audiences are north american/australian/european. The asian culture is very different from ours (which is fine, obviously), and I'm afraid that moving it to that arena would alienate those who identify with the show. AKA the fans.

And moving it there and then "Westernizing" the feel of that country would be a waste, and probably offensive to people of that culture.

whiteout49
August 19th, 2008, 09:24 AM
what should happen is they move the gate to Antarctica build like a big military base there with ppl from all the countries that know about the gate because the idea that the U.S. would give up control of the gate to one country is just crazy.

BwenGun
August 19th, 2008, 09:34 AM
I don't see any other nation getting the gate, certainly not Britain (though my interests obviously lie there)
A British spin on Stargate could be interesting, but then I too am biased. I wonder why the UK hasn't featured more in Stargate, beyond a few Wraith-fodder and the occasional blink and you'll miss it Union Flag or a dull, vanilla IOA rep. More potential for political intrigue there - are we Brits as reliable an ally in the Gateverse, or do we also have an agenda - or do the US just not want to share?

Indeed it would be nice to have a few more Brits running around the place, you'd think that given the "special relationship" between Britain and the States that we'd have a larger presence in the Gateverse aside from a few guys at Atlantis. It would be nice to see, for example, a British team at the SGC or a couple of SAS stationed on Atlantis, single-handedly destroying Wraith Hive ships armed with nothing but a small fruit knife, but I think that's something of a forlorn hope. (Also for some reason I can't help but fear that if they did include some British characters they'd choose someone like Ross Kemp. :S )

As for the original question, possibly, depending on how well it's done. It would be interesting to see the political back biting and skulduggery going on on a daily basis but I can see it getting old quick. Likewise the powerplays as well as ideological and national tensions could quickly spin things out of control unless you have some means of banding all the nations together against some common foe, and even then I think it would take every nation on the planet being adversely affected by something, or someone, (and by affected I mean in the orbital bombardment sense of the word) to really band everyone together long enough for it to work, otherwise it could spectacularly fall apart. Unfortunately the Milky Way is looking fairly void of threats at present, the Ori could have done it, the Snake-Heads could have and the Replicators could have, but the SGC has been awfully efficient in stamping out those problems, leaving the only real danger to Earth being the people living on it.

VSS
August 19th, 2008, 09:52 AM
...another nation took control of the stargate programme, as has been hinted at in several seasons of SG1, particularly the Chinese? Would you be more or less willing to watch the show if complete control of the gate was handed to an International Body (NOT the IOA, but a similar organisation to NATO)?

Handing it over to the Chinese would require a suspension of disbelief that most scifi fans couldn't even come up with, and we have really good imaginations. The situation would have to become Iconic before that'd happen.;)

Now, giving it to a NATO-like organization- sure. It's still massively underwritten by the US but there's better international involvement and it's comprised of democratic states. That would be a little more realistic. And it could be moved out of the US to Antarctica or the moon because the Stargate is the ultimate NIMBY industry. I mean, just imagine what the residents of Colorado would think if they ever found out.:)

But, there's a certain attitude that comes with it being run by the USAF. You can call it whatever you want (BTW, "cowboy" isn't necessarily an insult :)) but making this kind of endeavor more politically palatable has always been seen as a negative by the members of the Stargate team, even if they are sociopolitical nerds or aliens. Autonomy is a nice thing to have. So, if we can be sure the denizens of earth continue to be a little daring and even moralizing, sure. But, if they're going to abide by multinational protocols and always postulate that the bad guy is merely misunderstood, then forget it. I can watch BSG if I want that.

Sealurk
August 19th, 2008, 09:56 AM
It would be nice to see, for example, a British team at the SGC or a couple of SAS stationed on Atlantis, single-handedly destroying Wraith Hive ships armed with nothing but a small fruit knife

What the hell kind of sissy, green, SAS soldier would need a fruit knife to destroy a hive ship?!?! At most they'd use a rusty teaspoon...and SBS just have to look at the damn thing.


(Also for some reason I can't help but fear that if they did include some British characters they'd choose someone like Ross Kemp. :S )

A tremendous fear of mine, too. For this reason alone, perhaps it's for the best that we Brits are not allowed into the Stargate Program or Atlantis Expedition in large numbers.

BwenGun
August 19th, 2008, 10:52 AM
What the hell kind of sissy, green, SAS soldier would need a fruit knife to destroy a hive ship?!?! At most they'd use a rusty teaspoon...and SBS just have to look at the damn thing.

Ah yes, you are of course right. Hell a rusty teaspoon might be pushing it past the realms of possibility, in reality they could probably do it armed with nothing but harsh words and their bare hands.:cameron:




A tremendous fear of mine, too. For this reason alone, perhaps it's for the best that we Brits are not allowed into the Stargate Program or Atlantis Expedition in large numbers.

Aye, though they could always be sensible and pick someone decent, like Sean Bean. Or... urm, dunno really, there are some good British male actors who could fill such a role, just none I can name off the top of my head.

Flyboy
August 19th, 2008, 11:28 AM
I will keep watching SG as long as it's on air, but I won't like it as much if China were put in charge. Is it really good for communists to be representing Earth? Now, on the other hand, NATO could take it over, and that would be fine, but I don't like the idea of it being moved. It should stay in Cheyenne Mountain. But the SGC levels of it will now be a NATO run multi-national military installation, not unlike a foreign embassy, or Atlantis. That's how I'd like to see it, if the US must be takien out of power. (being American I would like them to stay in charge)
a) They're NOT communists. They like to think they are, but they're not. Really not. Look up communism. Fascists yes. But definitely capitalist.

b) Do people not get that the Chinese would probably be seizing the gate politically with international backing, it wouldnt BE a good thing in the show, it would be an intelligent political story.

Artifysial
August 19th, 2008, 12:21 PM
what should happen is they move the gate to Antarctica build like a big military base there with ppl from all the countries that know about the gate because the idea that the U.S. would give up control of the gate to one country is just crazy.

I think this is far more likely. Look at the protest from SG fans for goodness sake. There would be international pressure from those countries who knew about stargate and China would be in a tricky position they would need US / SG intel to effectively run it anyway. Moving the gates to international zones and having a more representative team or teams would be very interesting -it would pull in more interesting political plots not just mainstream US politics - rather obvious stuff anyway given SG's international following, and SG can cope with more complex plots especially with the lack of foe now Ba'al and Ori are gone.

Thunderbird 2
August 19th, 2008, 01:31 PM
ONe thing that would be cool to see would be if the countries that are part of the Atlantis expedition had their own SGC style training sites for both their military and civillian personell in order to prepare them for offworld assignments.

Its interestng to note the idea of a neutral location for a new SGC - here is a quote form the Wiki entry on Altantis located at. Relivent bit in bold.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Atlantis



The Stargate SG-1 seventh season ending two part episode "Lost City," was supposed to be a bridge between Stargate SG-1 and a new spin-off, either a show or a movie, which was not planned to run at the same time as Stargate SG-1. Wright and Cooper rewrote the script as the two-part season seven finale, and moved the setting of the story. The city of Atlantis, originally planned to be on Earth under Antarctica in place of the SGC, was moved to the Pegasus Galaxy. The change was to prevent fans from wondering why Stargate Command would not come to help them, and also gave the producers the chance to start afresh and not be an identical copy of the original show.

Personally, I think it would be nice to see the international aspect cranked up in Atlantis a bit. It appears to have been forgotten about, and the international apsect of the expo is one of the key things that drew me to Atlantis in the first place!

Re UK citizens in Stargate, be careful for what you wish for! - Gall, Grodan and Beckett were all British characters in Atlantis, and we got a former Eastenders actor playing a Jaffa in SG1! Specifically Craig Fairbrass as Arkad, in Talion - His broad cockney accent had me wincing all through the episode, as it wrecked credibility.

Lets see what Atlantis and hopefully Universe has to offer. I think Universe in particular has potential in scale if nothing else, to pick up the international team pieces that Atlantis has dropped. - If its done correctly.

rlr149
August 19th, 2008, 01:32 PM
i wouldn't mind a russian sgc, bit more 'hard line' than the US sgc. chinese might be good too.

aussies would just be throwing goa'uld onto bar b q's instead of shrimps, and gaining super cooling tech for their "tinnies".................. "gooday, i'm colonel bruce oniell and this is major shiela carter...................."

this should never happen :p

us brits would just end up queuing in line after the tokra to take down apophis. "no, no, after you.........."

the french would just find a way for 2 way wormhole travel for ease in a 'tactical withdrawal'

jenks
August 19th, 2008, 01:43 PM
Yes indeed, Tibet is an attrocity.[...]

So is Guantanamo.

I'd watch it.

Flyboy
August 19th, 2008, 02:01 PM
So is Guantanamo.

I'd watch it.
It is, but of a very different nature. So are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?

Col.Foley
August 19th, 2008, 02:02 PM
I would of course five it a chance, from my own personal experience. But at this point if it were not run by the US, it would have to be an international orginization.
Although in the long run we do have that already with Atlantis. Atlantis is international, it is run by many delegates from many different countries. Although it is not quite the military alliance aspect of the first post, IE NATO like orginization. But that couldbe forceably coming sometime in the future since we do have the IOA already.

Bekah See
August 19th, 2008, 04:06 PM
a) They're NOT communists. They like to think they are, but they're not. Really not. Look up communism. Fascists yes. But definitely capitalist.

b) Do people not get that the Chinese would probably be seizing the gate politically with international backing, it wouldnt BE a good thing in the show, it would be an intelligent political story.

which means the vast majority of people would drop it like a hot banana. You want political, watch CNN.

Flyboy
August 19th, 2008, 04:15 PM
which means the vast majority of people would drop it like a hot banana. You want political, watch CNN.
Ah yes, sorry I forgot, entertainment isn't allowed to be intelligent is it?

I happen to enjoy political fiction, The West Wing, Yes Minister, and certain SG1 eps, what's so wrong about wanting to see more in an SG show?

Col.Foley
August 19th, 2008, 04:17 PM
Ah yes, sorry I forgot, entertainment isn't allowed to be intelligent is it?

I happen to enjoy political fiction, The West Wing, Yes Minister, and certain SG1 eps, what's so wrong about wanting to see more in an SG show?Nothing. Really.
But it should never be the main foucus of any science fiction show, or book. There can be an element. But if you focus too much on that one element, especially when its politics, the show will suffer.

Artifysial
August 19th, 2008, 04:22 PM
Nothing wrong with it at all. It's that groundedness I like about SG. Yes it's a sci fi series but it's plot development and memory serves it well, better than other sci fi series and that's why we expect more intelligent plot lines. Since it's base is in 21st Centuary Earth and a US base why not expect politics to play a role. It's not like the misuse of power hasn't been raised by the writers before or at least alluded to.

NKDietrich
August 19th, 2008, 04:40 PM
Ah yes, sorry I forgot, entertainment isn't allowed to be intelligent is it?

I happen to enjoy political fiction, The West Wing, Yes Minister, and certain SG1 eps, what's so wrong about wanting to see more in an SG show?

An episode here and there is fine, but politics is not what Stargate is about. They'd lose a lot of fans if they changed their focus. Many would become bored. I think bringing it up once in a while is enough.

amconway
August 19th, 2008, 07:35 PM
I've never prefered the political/conspiracy story arcs. For me, they detract from the kind of stories that attracted me to stargate; the exploration, discovery, and new worlds type of stories. Moving the stargate to another country would ensure a political focus.

Besides, I have to agree with Jack Bauer that, for me, the Stargate program is a USAF program.

I'm not a big Atlantis fan, although I do watch. One of a number of things that I personally don't think serves them well, is the IOA involvement.

On the other hand, if the Stargate ever went public, I can see that, under certain circumstances, their might have to be NATO involvement. I don't see it leaving Cheyenne Mountain, though.


I happen to enjoy political fiction, The West Wing, Yes Minister (...)
I loved both these things too, but to try and bring that kind of sensibility would distort the concept into something entirely different. When they went that direction in part of season 4 and in season 5 - in order to try and increase the young male demographic- they lost many viewers. I think that would occur in this case as well. It would be better to create a new Scifi-political show that wasn't Stargate related. That might be very interesting.

ShadowMaat
August 19th, 2008, 09:24 PM
The most important thing to me would be that this theoretical spinoff of yours had an entirely new team of writers who actually know how to write. :P I'm also not sure if a China-based show would be of interest to me just because of the political climate, but another major country? Could be interesting. I'd be curious to see a Russian-led version, particularly after the negative way they tended to be portrayed on SG-1. :rolleyes: Who are the other major parties? It's been a while since I've paid attention to such things. The French? LOL! Not sure I'd like that, either. UK would be a plus, although I'm sure there are those who'd be unhappy since it's another primarily English-speaking group and would probably be dismissed as being "too much like America," much to the disgust Brits and Yanks alike. ;)

As for the whole "USAF or die" mentality, I guess I just don't have that much loyalty because I think an international effort- or even a full-scale handing off of the baton to another member nation- isn't offensive and might even make a bit of sense. Except of course for the part where you'd have to pry America's cold dead fingers off the Stargate program before such a thing would be even a remote possibility. :rolleyes: There's no way the US would give up their claim willingly and I think they'd fight tooth and nail even if they were ordered to surrender control. Especially if they were ordered to surrender. :P

Bekah See
August 19th, 2008, 10:17 PM
Ah yes, sorry I forgot, entertainment isn't allowed to be intelligent is it?

I happen to enjoy political fiction, The West Wing, Yes Minister, and certain SG1 eps, what's so wrong about wanting to see more in an SG show?

There's nothing wrong with it. I'm just saying it would never fly. The political eps are the least watched eps by most of the fans, even though they're great for rounding out the show. People are attracted to Stargate for the adventure, the discovery, the aliens, the characters, and yes, the explosions. If this kind of show went political, it would die in the first season. Political fiction absolutely has a place. Just not here, I don't think.

And who says entertainment has to be political to be intelligent? I think Stargate is very intelligent. It's one of the main reasons I'm so loyal to it.



An episode here and there is fine, but politics is not what Stargate is about. They'd lose a lot of fans if they changed their focus. Many would become bored. I think bringing it up once in a while is enough.

Yes. What you said.

Lianne
August 20th, 2008, 05:29 AM
Actually, I would love to see someone else in the control of SG programme - but if it was in real life. Because if the writing wouldn´t change, then you can have any nation/organization in the conrol, but it would be all still the same, just witha different flag in the office room.

Sealurk
August 20th, 2008, 05:31 AM
The most important thing to me would be that this theoretical spinoff of yours had an entirely new team of writers who actually know how to write. :P

That's far too radical a change for it to happen...! Although it'd be nice.


I'm also not sure if a China-based show would be of interest to me just because of the political climate, but another major country? Could be interesting. I'd be curious to see a Russian-led version, particularly after the negative way they tended to be portrayed on SG-1. :rolleyes: Who are the other major parties? It's been a while since I've paid attention to such things. The French? LOL! Not sure I'd like that, either. UK would be a plus, although I'm sure there are those who'd be unhappy since it's another primarily English-speaking group and would probably be dismissed as being "too much like America," much to the disgust Brits and Yanks alike. ;)

Probably true, but just not the Britain currently featured in Stargate (WHEN it's featured). While at least the UK characters aren't the mass of standard British cliches (bad teeth, tea-drinking, 'Bloody Hell', extremely villainous etc) most American-written Brits are, they seem to have trouble writing anything else in place of the stereotypes. But, when all's said and done, it is a US series. I'm interested to know how Americans feel about the way they're portrayed on British TV (Doctor Who for example) for comparison.


As for the whole "USAF or die" mentality, I guess I just don't have that much loyalty because I think an international effort- or even a full-scale handing off of the baton to another member nation- isn't offensive and might even make a bit of sense. Except of course for the part where you'd have to pry America's cold dead fingers off the Stargate program before such a thing would be even a remote possibility. :rolleyes: There's no way the US would give up their claim willingly and I think they'd fight tooth and nail even if they were ordered to surrender control. Especially if they were ordered to surrender. :P

Ordered by whom?! Who could actually, realistically tell the US to do anything, let alone hand over what is probably the single most important object on the face of the Earth? But you are right. There is no way the US would hand over the Stargate, physically or politically. The most we could hope for is increased international participation in the SGC.

But a more international SGC would make sense, especially since most of it's funding was reappropriated for 304 production. More funding, more manpower, more resources....and more cannon fodder.

amconway
August 20th, 2008, 03:04 PM
We should note that while Stargate is owned and funded by an American media company, many, perhaps even most, of the people working on it are Canadian. Doesn't really matter to the discussion, I just thought that it should be mentioned. :)

Bey0nd
August 21st, 2008, 04:17 AM
MGM should never give Skiffy another series

Ikaros
August 29th, 2008, 02:22 PM
...another nation took control of the stargate programme, as has been hinted at in several seasons of SG1, particularly the Chinese? Would you be more or less willing to watch the show if complete control of the gate was handed to an International Body (NOT the IOA, but a similar organisation to NATO)?

why is there a single nation in commant of sgc? i thought the IOA was......

Sealurk
August 29th, 2008, 02:26 PM
why is there a single nation in commant of sgc? i thought the IOA was......

I think it's basically that the SGC is under US control, being part of the US military after all. The IOA don't directly control the SGC, but they do have a say in how it's run and funded. Then again, it's a while since I've looked into this, so I might be completely wrong!

Grinspoon
August 29th, 2008, 11:04 PM
I think a spin off of an internationally controlled gate would be fine. As long as the main focus wasn't the politics. Just a nice healthy dose.
Could be an idea for a future spin off.


We all know they'll eventually do a spin off set in the future. I'd hope they did some sort of, not to distant future, which its not a specific time frame but all looks mainly the same with some newer tech. You'd have to have the gate in a new location, i'd assume. It'd be a great way to just refresh some of the sg look.

ciannwn
August 30th, 2008, 03:58 AM
I'd rather see a NATO type organisation which includes the Chinese and the Gate staying where it is. It's not that I don't like stories about politics etc. but I'm just thinking of the following -

1: Stargate is filmed in Canada. Even though characters in China could all speak English they wouldn't do it with US or Canadian accents. Finding extras for Chinese personnel who just wander around in the background is one thing but the number of characters who say something would be limited to the number of available actors who could pass as someone in China speaking English as a second language. I'm guessing there's more chance of finding one actor who can be a Russian and another who can be English etc. etc.so an international organisation could be more feasible.

2: China doesn't look like Vancouver or its surrounding areas. This could cause problems if they wanted to have a story where some of the characters leave the base.


we got a former Eastenders actor playing a Jaffa in SG1! Specifically Craig Fairbrass as Arkad, in Talion - His broad cockney accent had me wincing all through the episode, as it wrecked credibility.

This spoiled Talion for me because I kept having visions of the Jaffa planet, Walford. A Jaffa with a Cockney accent is as crazy as having a Wraith with an Irish or Australian accent.

kufan76
August 30th, 2008, 07:51 AM
I personally think it wouldn't work. The IOA has proven its ineffective, so a show based where the control of the gate is given to another international organization, basically it'd be the same type of politicians running it, and it would suck. Of course I always get nausiated by politicians in the real world, and seeing them on TV, well I just don't like it, even the few times that the've had politicians on the show, I have to fast forward thru their talking, but hey that's just me though.