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    tollan ion cannons

    when the tollan decided to share the ion cannons with earth they gave us the plans and after carter went over them she said there was no possible way they could build one because there far too advanced. however when the asgard give us the newly upgraded odessy with all the bells and whistles, less than 5 years latter, we completely, with a few exception, reproduce the beam wepons and god knows what else they gave us and made a new ship, the pheionx, and refitted the appolo and deadalus in less than a year. now the beam wepons are way more advanced than the tollan ion cannon and yet we can reproduce them with just the plans and we are ecintially at about the same level of technology as we were then, when we reproduced the beam wepons. i mean all of our advancement has come from the asgard giving us pre made pieces of equipment and telling us where the on switch is located. yet they give us pre made pieces of the most advanced technology in the universe and we reproduce it in less than a year yet carter said we couldnt make an ion cannon? explain that.
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    The Tollan only gave Carter some of the basic plan of the Cannon, from that Sam believe it was to advance to reverse engineer it.That was 5 or 6 yrs ago.
    Since then Earth has got a bit more advance and Sam too got a bit smarter , 9well before she went to Atlantis got a bit less smarter.)
    The Asgard gave Earth a computer data core which is like how to do everything for dummies.
    And remember Asgard build the beam weapon on A Earth ship using technologies compatiable with Earth.Or even Earth parts.
    The Tollan doesn't even use crystal technologies, their tech is something with magnetic reading with no wires or mechanical moving part.
    It would take yrs just to figure it out, let alon revers engineer the cannon.

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      #3
      Or there is the possiblity that now we have beam weapons, so why even ponder the fact about an Ion Canon.

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        #4
        the asgard tech, they made it human friendly and since earth now deals with a lot of alien tech and has experience...

        as for the beams weapons and other asgard tech: they are preprogrammed into the machine, press A and they materialize, instructions on how to install for dummies must be in the core.

        for the tollan ion cannons, they must be build from scratch. specs wont do. imagine 100 years ago if scientist were given the specs to build a F-22?

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          #5
          Plus there is a big difference in Tollan and Asgard tech.

          I believe Sam mentioned once that the tollan technology lacks circuits or anything similar that resembles other technology. Like it's engineered on a nano level built atom by atom. Where as the Asgard technology is crystal based same as Goa'uld tech and ancient tech which the team and area 51 scientists have a lot of experience with.

          That's the reason why I think we'll never see any tollan tech reproduced.

          Unless reproduced with Asgard replicator technology.

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            #6
            I don't know about you guys but I would love to see the Tollan storyline revisited in one way or another. Those ion cannons were the best ground-based defensive weapons in the show. Even if Anubis was able to upgrade his shields to counter them they could still prove very useful.

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              #7
              Tollan technology works without wires, mechical or other familiar parts, so that was difficult. Also by the time we had the beam weapons we already has Asgard tech in the ship and enough time to get to know it. Also we had installed Asgard tech ourselfs and carter and Sg-1 had been helping the Asgard multiple times and had probably some lessons from the Asgard themselves. Also they had the core and a holo Asgard to help them out. The core was mad to help us with the tech.

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                #8
                We couldn't reverse engineer Tolan tech, or remake it with the technology we had. Now with have the Asgard core that can create technology that makes the Ion cannons laughable out of thin air.

                Can anyone photoshop an "Asgard tech - for dummies" book?
                Jedi_Master_Bra'tac, previously known as wako!


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                  #9
                  Were the cannons designed by the Tollans or the Nox?

                  If they were designed by the Nox then that might explain why they can't be replicated.

                  I think that if we can reverse engineer them then we should use them as a point defence system on 304s. they'd be better than rail guns as they wouldn't need re-arming.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Zalenka View Post
                    Were the cannons designed by the Tollans or the Nox?

                    If they were designed by the Nox then that might explain why they can't be replicated.

                    I think that if we can reverse engineer them then we should use them as a point defence system on 304s. they'd be better than rail guns as they wouldn't need re-arming.
                    The Nox would never design something like the Ion cannons, it was definitely the Tollan
                    Jedi_Master_Bra'tac, previously known as wako!


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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jedi_Master_Bra'tac View Post
                      The Nox would never design something like the Ion cannons, it was definitely the Tollan
                      Why wouldn't they design them? They wanted to protect the Tollan, they built them a gate. maybe they thought they'd give them the cannons to help protect them.

                      They may have trusted the Tollan not to turn them into an offensive weapon by mounting them on their ships.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Zalenka View Post
                        Why wouldn't they design them? They wanted to protect the Tollan, they built them a gate. maybe they thought they'd give them the cannons to help protect them.

                        They may have trusted the Tollan not to turn them into an offensive weapon by mounting them on their ships.

                        because they are passivists and they would rather die than take anothers life. plus they didint help design them because the tollan didint meet the nox untill we introduced them to each other. and if the nox helped design them then what did they use to defend there other planet with?
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by stargater1990 View Post
                          what did they use to defend there other planet with?
                          maybe they didn't have anything to defent their first planet with?

                          They were advanced but they still needed the Nox for support. Was it ever stated how much help the nox actually gave?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Zalenka View Post
                            maybe they didn't have anything to defent their first planet with?

                            They were advanced but they still needed the Nox for support. Was it ever stated how much help the nox actually gave?

                            but the nox defend themselves through illusion and mastery of the minds not wepons. there is no possible way they helped build a wepon that would kill anyone. they even saved apophis and he is pure evil.and the ion cannons look distinctly tollan. not to mention if they can invent other stuff like walking through walls and they beat quantum physics, making a wepon such as the ion cannon wouldnt be any problem.
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                              #15
                              The Nox have a very different idea of "defensive" than you do. They would never defend themselves in a way that involves the taking of another life.
                              Jedi_Master_Bra'tac, previously known as wako!


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