i love the show and as i watch it more and more im starting to think i dont know who is better or who would win a war the asgard or the ancients... im only asking because the asgard tech are some what on the same lvl as the ancient so can yall please tell me what yall think thank you
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The Ancients would win.
There is no ship in the universe that can survive 5,000 drones shot at it. The Wraith only won because they were essentially infinite as a species. It could similarly be argued that the Ori and Replicators only lost because the writers were afraid to give them properly used drones.
The Asgard, with their much more limited number, could be overwhelmed by sheer force.
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Well I'd say the Ancients would win if both races fought at the peak of their civilizations.Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."
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Depending what the Ancient are using. If they first have a battle in space with all their warship and the Asgard have the latest tech, the Asgard would win. Their Plasma beam can make the Ancient's most powerful warship, the Aurora Class, unable to fight with a single shot. The ancients shields cannot deflect one shot and the Asgard beams can break to the shield in one shot and make it break in half. And the Asgard shield can resist a lot of drones, especially when equipped with an asgard power generator.
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Originally posted by EternalAlteran View PostDepending what the Ancient are using. If they first have a battle in space with all their warship and the Asgard have the latest tech, the Asgard would win. Their Plasma beam can make the Ancient's most powerful warship, the Aurora Class, unable to fight with a single shot. The ancients shields cannot deflect one shot and the Asgard beams can break to the shield in one shot and make it break in half. And the Asgard shield can resist a lot of drones, especially when equipped with an asgard power generator.
This aside if the Ancients added ZPM's to their Aurora's like they used to I think they'd be quite capable of taking on an Asgard ship with the beam weapons. There's also the fact that Atlantis could likely mow down a fleet of Asgard ships with beam weapons by itself. If you then factor in all the other gadgets the Ancients have e.g. a wealth of knowledge 50 million years old I think its safe to say they defeat the Asgard.
Lets not forget the Asurans, they could set the Asurans on the Asgard. They build faster and if given access to the Ancients best technology they could quickly overwhelm the Asgard. IMO the Ancients abandoned the Asurans because they were planning on wiping out humans to stop the Wraith, they would have no need to implement that strategy therefore it would be safe to use them.Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."
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if a fleet of asgard motherships equiped with beam wepons and a fleet of auroras equiped with drones met and engaged in battle then i would say the asgards have the upperhand. due to the fact that the aincents are using a wepon that they only have a set number is a serious mistake. yes their powerfull but the asgard beams are equally powerfull but with unlimited numbers. imo asgard shields could withstand shots from drone wepons because they could withstand quite a few shots from an ori motherships main wepon which is way more powerfull than a single drone. and it is very likely that the asgards have a powersource that rivals a zpm because on more than one ocassion they dialed earth from another galaxy which only a zpm level power source or higher can do. so given that an asgard mothership properly equiped can withstand many drone attacks its only a matter of time untill the aincents run out of drones or the asgard take down the aincents shields with 4 beam shots. then the asgards finish them off with another beam shot. i mean as long as there are equill numbers the asgads will come out on top. and plus in the event the asgard ship is about to loose its shields it can just cloak and recharge its shield then get back into the fight.STARGATE ROCKS
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Originally posted by EternalAlteran View PostDepending what the Ancient are using. If they first have a battle in space with all their warship and the Asgard have the latest tech, the Asgard would win. Their Plasma beam can make the Ancient's most powerful warship, the Aurora Class, unable to fight with a single shot. The ancients shields cannot deflect one shot and the Asgard beams can break to the shield in one shot and make it break in half. And the Asgard shield can resist a lot of drones, especially when equipped with an asgard power generator.
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Originally posted by ha´tak View PostThe ancient whould win
like Ranlier pointed out no ship chould out stand 5000 drones hitting you
an aincent ship isint going to be able to fire 5000 drones at once. its doubtfull that they even have more than 1000 drones toatal. plus managing 5000 drones at once with your mind might be a little dificult. which is yet another weakness in the aincents choice of wepons.STARGATE ROCKS
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As has been meantioned, you can't use the asuran Version of the Aurora as a means for determining how such a war would go. It is vastly inferior to an Ancient Aurora crewed by Ancients. Who has said that the Aurora was their only warship? They said that they sent their best ships to negotiate with the wraith and that fleet was destroyed in an ambush.
I would say that the Ancients would win quite easily. The Asgard were powerful but not as powerful as the greatest Specie to have ever travelled the stars.sigpic
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Asgard, the asgard might be out numbered but a single asgard can operate an entire mothership and have it running a 100%. Plus the Asgard have beaming tech, if they can get through the shields they can beam a bomb on board. Also they can build ships extremely fast with the beaming tech. The asgard also have lots of tactics up thier sleeves(or lack of) with dealing with the reps, some of that might fool the ancients.
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Originally posted by Lord batchi ball View PostAsgard, the asgard might be out numbered but a single asgard can operate an entire mothership and have it running a 100%. Plus the Asgard have beaming tech, if they can get through the shields they can beam a bomb on board. Also they can build ships extremely fast with the beaming tech. The asgard also have lots of tactics up thier sleeves(or lack of) with dealing with the reps, some of that might fool the ancients.
finally. someone else who thinks the asgard would win.STARGATE ROCKS
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Originally posted by stargater1990 View Postan aincent ship isint going to be able to fire 5000 drones at once. its doubtfull that they even have more than 1000 drones toatal. plus managing 5000 drones at once with your mind might be a little dificult. which is yet another weakness in the aincents choice of wepons.
that where at least 1000 dronse and they had more and how said that they need a man controlling the drones becous in this episode there was no man who did that zelenka shot them from the bridge
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Originally posted by ha´tak View Postdude have you watch a episode called no mans land in season 3 of atlantis,
that where at least 1000 dronse and they had more and how said that they need a man controlling the drones becous in this episode there was no man who did that zelenka shot them from the bridgeSTARGATE ROCKS
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Originally posted by stargater1990 View Postit was more like maybe 200 or 300. not 1000.
look at thes pics http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/dis...um=292&pos=732 they are at least 500Last edited by ha'tak_; 07 August 2008, 03:14 PM.
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