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GateWorld
November 7th, 2004, 06:20 PM
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<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 111</FONT>
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Major Sheppard plays a dangerous game of cat and mouse with soldiers who have seized control of Atlantis and taken Weir and McKay hostage.

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HarSins
November 8th, 2004, 05:49 PM
I'm just saying this to make all you americans envy me :D

Major Fischer
November 8th, 2004, 05:55 PM
The official thread is http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=5687

Jack O' Neil
November 8th, 2004, 05:56 PM
Yeah! It was so amazing.. Probably one of my favourites this season already. Oh god im not just saying this to bug you american guys either! I'm serious this episode rocks!!! WOOHOO can't wait till episode 12 next week :D :D ;)

MartoufMarty
November 8th, 2004, 06:00 PM
Well, I haven't seen it yet. But I just know that it's gonna be good. The show has been awesome so far and I just love it.

4 minutes!

Gothann
November 8th, 2004, 06:12 PM
Let's start with some MASSIVE spoilers, so the spoiler tag IS IN EFFECT.

I loved the way Sora switched sides at the end of the ep. She deserves more than just imprisonment, but given time she might become a great ally to the Atlantis Expedition.

On a side note, WOOHOO!!! Beckett gets to wield a P90!!!

Major Fischer
November 8th, 2004, 06:18 PM
So I'll ask what all the rest of the Americans who can't resist spoilers want to ask.

Can someone give us a summery?

Gothann
November 8th, 2004, 06:41 PM
So I'll ask what all the rest of the Americans who can't resist spoilers want to ask.

Can someone give us a summery?
Sure, I'll give ya a short one for now, until someone with more time and a recording of the show actually gets to give more.
BUT: SPOILERS, MASSIVE, CHEESY, SPOILERS
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It begins with Kolya telling Sheppard that Dr. Weir is now dead. Shep. threatens Kolya, saying he'll kill him for what he has just done. Meanwhile, Dr. Weir isn't dead. Very much to the contrary, Dr. McKay stood in front of Kolya's gun, trying to sell why both Dr. Weir and himself are worth more to the Genii strike force alive then dead. Kolya reluctantly accepts, and orders them to go repair the control station for the last Grounding Station.
Now, switch to Tayla, Ford and Beckett, all of which were stuck on the Mainland. They know of the situation on Atlantis and are hopelessly looking for a way to stay calm.
Switch back to Atlantis (this is where everything gets really rushed in my recap). Sora sends a 3-man recon team after Shep., he uses Phosphorous grenades to cover his tracks and hide in a large area, where he kills the recon team as "revenge" for Dr. Weir, who he thinks is dead. It's then that he uses the transporters to disable the Control Tower's Naquadah generator and the generator powering Grounding Station 3. McKay, who was working on the station, says to Kolya that he can't do anything without power, so he's stuck with Dr. Weir, with very little hope of survival.
The stranded puddlejumper gets to see The Eye of the storm, where Ford suggests to Beckett that he should pilot the jumper back to Atlantis, in hopes of aiding Sheppard. They do so, though Beckett is REALLY scared of his piloting skills.
After that, I'm kinda sketchy on it... The Stargate is accessed by the Genii, in order to bring more troops to exterminate Sheppard. Unfortunately for them, they 60-man strike force never gets through when Shep. takes out the command tower's gate guy, and activates the gate shield. 5 of 60 men make it through alive, the rest just hit the wall and dissipate, leaving a seconds worth of yellow flashes...
As for the rest... The jumper reaches the city, Sheppard is forced to re-establish power to the last grounding station, and a plan devised to retake the command tower is in effect, until Sora knocks out Beckett and challenges Tayla to the death, in knife-combat. Tayla says that she will likely kill Sora if she goes through with the challenge, yet Sora persists in order to avenger her father. Through the battle, Weir and McKay are back at the Command tower in order to establish the shield. They try to stall, when a report of a giant tsunami is headed for the city. A wave powerful enough to obliterate the city if the shield isn't up.
During this time, McKay and Weir are being taken toward the gate, toward the Genii homeworld. Then Sheppard and Ford go and start taking out the rest of the strike team, liberating McKay and leaving Kolya, who has Weir as a hostage, in a standoff with Sheppard. With a few verbal exchages, Sheppard threatens that Kolya should let Dr. Weir go, but Kolya insists that Shep would never risk Weir's life in order to save her. Sheppard replies (I won't disclose it, :P) and then shoots Kolya, who falls back into the gate, letting go of Weir.
Now, Sora and Tayla are still fighting, Beckett is still knocked out, and a Tsunami is incoming in 2 minutes. Activating the shield will kill anyone not in protected areas, so if Tayla and Beckett don't get out of there NOW, they'll die.
Now, I'll let someone else finish these spoilers. :)

MartoufMarty
November 8th, 2004, 06:52 PM
WOW! Holy crap I love this show so much! Teyla kicked ass! Yay for John! Poor Rodney!

Every second of this episode had me on the edge of my seat! WOW! Brilliant!

Squee!

Gothann
November 8th, 2004, 06:55 PM
WOW! Holy crap I love this show so much! Teyla kicked ass! Yay for John! Poor Rodney!

Every second of this episode had me on the edge of my seat! WOW! Brilliant!

Squee!
Heh, don't spoil any of it without the proper tag. Americans should WATCH the show to see it's greatness, not just read about it.

There is no way to explain how any spoilers DID NOT affect the shere gittyness I had when the show ended. The acting itself was up a few notches from what has ever been seen before in SGA.

MartoufMarty
November 8th, 2004, 06:59 PM
Heh, don't spoil any of it without the proper tag. Americans should WATCH the show to see it's greatness, not just read about it.

There is no way to explain how any spoilers DID NOT affect the shere gittyness I had when the show ended. The acting itself was up a few notches from what has ever been seen before in SGA.
Well, I didn't give away any plot details. Of course it's 'yay for John' and 'poor Rodney'. See what happened in the storm? And of course they gotta kick ass especially Teyla :P

Athenaktt
November 8th, 2004, 06:59 PM
WOW! Holy crap I love this show so much! Teyla kicked ass! Yay for John! Poor Rodney!

Every second of this episode had me on the edge of my seat! WOW! Brilliant!

Squee!

I'm green with envy... :D <--------see green. ;)

I'm still jealous of you guys. *sobs*

Major Fischer
November 8th, 2004, 06:59 PM
It's the episode thread, you are allowed to spoil here, just not out in the rest of the board. I still haven't watched my VHS with the Storm on it because I hate being cliffhangered.

MartoufMarty
November 8th, 2004, 07:00 PM
It's the episode thread, you are allowed to spoil here, just not out in the rest of the board. I still haven't watched my VHS with the Storm on it because I hate being cliffhangered.
Well, you can go watch it now while it uploads :P

Gothann
November 8th, 2004, 07:01 PM
It's the episode thread, you are allowed to spoil here, just not out in the rest of the board. I still haven't watched my VHS with the Storm on it because I hate being cliffhangered.
But officially (meaning SciFi officially) it's not an aired show yet.

Technically, it is, but only to Canadians. This means many, MANY, people might not like to scroll down this thread and read the whole storyline (well, I posted about half of it semi-accurately)

lionel_pendergast_rocks
November 8th, 2004, 07:03 PM
(sobbing) why.....january...(sob).....stupid....scifi channel! (sobbing)
well, anyway, its stupid they cant show em at the same time in both the us and ca.

Major Fischer
November 8th, 2004, 07:06 PM
But officially (meaning SciFi officially) it's not an aired show yet.

Technically, it is, but only to Canadians. This means many, MANY, people might not like to scroll down this thread and read the whole storyline (well, I posted about half of it semi-accurately)

If they are in this thread they are expecting it. You might want to read the mods warning about spoilier tags because it does talk about official episode threads.

Gothann
November 8th, 2004, 07:17 PM
Well, yup, I got rid of the spoiler tags I have.

I guess mods can put 'em back if they don't find it appropriate. (which I doubt, after having read ALL of the forum rules)

vfxsoup
November 8th, 2004, 07:19 PM
Glad you "Canadians" enjoyed it!

Mark Breakspear
Visual Effects Supervisor
Atlantis

Major Fischer
November 8th, 2004, 07:21 PM
Well, yup, I got rid of the spoiler tags I have.

I guess mods can put 'em back if they don't find it appropriate. (which I doubt, after having read ALL of the forum rules)

Didn't mean to come off short, everything is all good. ;)

I haven't seen season 6 yet so I'm staving off my jealousy of all of you by watching four new episodes of Stargate tonight ;)

Chlex
November 8th, 2004, 07:34 PM
Wow!

That episode was incredible :D Is it just me, or does the Atlantis set seem like it goes of forever? I loved the entire look of the show, especially when Sheppard was going down the hallways with the plam pilot... er, I mean life signs detector. He kinda shocked me with the way he was willing to let all those Genii die. It's different when SG1 mow down a pack of Jaffa. Nobody gives a crap. The audience knew the backstory about the Genii, yet Sheppard had no problem killing them. I mean it's not like it was graphic or anything, but it was just... strange. Remember when Jack let that one guy die in The Other Side? They made such a huge angsty deal about it. Anyway, Atlantis isn't the same show. I'm still learning how not to compare the two :p

Teyla kicked ass, I thought the scene would be an excuse for a cat fight, but they wrote it really well. Continuity and all. I'd like to see her relax a little more... of course, the plot didn't call for much relaxation.

Ford had screentime! So did Beckett! I loved those two, even though they didn't get along, it brought a little realism into their scenes. Other than McKay they were pretty much the only comic relief. Wow... McKay... I still think he's perfect. He always pulls of his crazy ideas in the end. Best one liners too.

Weir... hmm. She seemed to keep a level head though it all. I'm starting to like her a little more now. Was it just me or was there some obvious Shep/Weir shippage in that episode? I'm not a shipper or anything but they seemed to play on it.

So anyway, that was certainly worth the wait. I love this show to pieces.

MartoufMarty
November 8th, 2004, 07:38 PM
Spoiler tags aren't really needed.

Anyways, I didn't really notice that much Shep/Weir shippage in that episode... I saw McKay/Weir! I mean, did you see him with his arm wrapped around her? lol

Loved the 'Really Really Dangerous Don't Touch' sign for the generator hehehehe.

MartoufMarty
November 8th, 2004, 07:43 PM
My sister was looking through the episode, and it turns out I may have imagined the arm thing... :(

I swear I saw it!

Shipperahoy
November 8th, 2004, 07:47 PM
Spoiler tags are, in fact, not necessary in the actual episode threads. The reasoning being that the episodes threads are here for the purpose of discussing said episode so anyone who ventures in here should expect exactly that.

Spoiler tags are still needed for spoilers for upcoming episodes though.

Chlex
November 8th, 2004, 07:50 PM
Spoiler tags aren't really needed.
Loved the 'Really Really Dangerous Don't Touch' sign for the generator hehehehe.

That was so great! http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/happy/028.gif I loved how Sheppard was trying to figure out what McKay would do.

Yeah, I remember the part where he had his arm around her while they were sitting in the rain. It was really short though, blink and you would've missed it. ;)

MartoufMarty
November 8th, 2004, 07:54 PM
That was so great! http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/happy/028.gif I loved how Sheppard was trying to figure out what McKay would do.

Yeah, I remember the part where he had his arm around her while they were sitting in the rain. It was really short though, blink and you would've missed it. ;)
I'm watching part of it again. Teyla's kicking ass!

I forget that persons name! She's so cool and vengeful!

Is she going to appear in anymore episodes? Love to see her after this episode :D

Chlex
November 8th, 2004, 08:04 PM
I'm watching part of it again. Teyla's kicking ass!

I forget that persons name! She's so cool and vengeful!

Is she going to appear in anymore episodes? Love to see her after this episode :D

I'm not completely sure if I liked Sora. :p I mean the idea of her character was great, but her voice is so... annoying. I'm not sure why, but it was really distracting. The whole revenge thing was cool, but there's no way she could have taken Teyla.

the dancer of spaz
November 8th, 2004, 08:06 PM
Heh, don't spoil any of it without the proper tag. Americans should WATCH the show to see it's greatness, not just read about it.

There is no way to explain how any spoilers DID NOT affect the shere gittyness I had when the show ended. The acting itself was up a few notches from what has ever been seen before in SGA.

If Americans are on this thread, they should know what they're getting into... :P Like me. ;)

MartoufMarty
November 8th, 2004, 08:08 PM
Well um *cough* is available to download now.

the dancer of spaz
November 8th, 2004, 08:11 PM
If Americans are on this thread, they should know what they're getting into... :P Like me. ;)

Sometimes I wish I was a Canadian... :)

Calicto
November 8th, 2004, 08:13 PM
REASONS TO MOVE TO CANADA:

-BusH for 4 more Years? Ack for me.
-STARGATE!

Chlex
November 8th, 2004, 08:14 PM
Sometimes I wish I was a Canadian... :)

If it makes you feel any better, we just got season 7 of SG1. So it's not all that great. Not to mention all the snow we get in Canada... but that's off topic. :p

ColdZero
November 8th, 2004, 09:22 PM
That episode was awesome.

Angel of Fire SG1
November 9th, 2004, 02:50 AM
If it makes you feel any better, we just got season 7 of SG1. So it's not all that great. Not to mention all the snow we get in Canada... but that's off topic. :p

Snow ain't stopping me moving to Canada!!!! I LOVE snow!!!!

And you guys think ur far behind
Where I live we just hit season 7 ....we're up to Orpheus!!!

AND OMG THE EYE THAT WAS THE COOLEST EPISODE SO FAR OF ATLANTIS! I LOVED IT SOO MUCH!

Ford was SOO cool!! And I saw Shep/Weir ship :D although did notice McKay's arm round Weir so ur not imagining things :p

Can't wait for next week :cool:

Gothann
November 9th, 2004, 05:12 AM
I think that the Shep/Weir ship was mostly toward the beginning, when Sheppard says he'll KILL Kolya for having "killed" Weir.

Then, later, he says that Kolya would kill Weir and McKay, only to torture Shep's mind... (possible affection for Weir, visible awkward friendship between McKay and Shep)

I also love McKay's line "In case you haven't noticed, I'm an extremely arrogant person who thinks ALL of his plans will work!" Heh, looks like McKay KNOWS he's arrogant, but won't do crap about it.

On a side note.... Beckett with a P90!!!!!!!!! How awesome is that!!

MartoufMarty
November 9th, 2004, 05:46 AM
I absolutely loved McKay! See how he was so angsty looking when Koyla was on the radio and they kept switching to him? And he stood in front of Weir! And he pulled a good lie there at the end.

I just loved John too. "I will kill you." He was so mad he wasn't even yelling anymore lol.

'Really Really Dangerous Don't Touch'. Hehehe.

Ford got a purpose in this episode! And Beckett did a couple Star Trek references lol. 'I'm a medical doctor not a magician.'

I loved how Beckett could never shut up lol.

And Teyla kicking ass was great.

Gothann
November 9th, 2004, 05:54 AM
Beckett's referrences to Star Trek seem to come from a continuation of the remark Sheppard made about Beckett in "Poisoning The Well", where Shep states that Beckett seems to portray Dr. McKoy, right after Beckett starts talking about how uncomfortable he is with gate travel.

I think we've found who will be the Star Trek referral. ^_^ (talking about a mirror to Jack's remarks about "Phasers" in SG-1, it comes up a few times...)

And I loved how Sora helped Tayla carry Beckett at the end of the episode. She MIGHT be a new recurring character. *Rushes off to create a Sora fandom thread*

Blueicus
November 9th, 2004, 06:36 AM
I just felt bad at the end of the episode when they were talking about how basically everything was peachy keen... sorta hoped they'd acknowledge the two red shirts that died in the first part :).

Btw, hello folks, first time poster (obviously)

Chlex
November 9th, 2004, 07:04 AM
I agree Blueicus, things did clean up conveniently in the end... but after all the drama, I needed a stress-free ending. :D

Beckett running around with a gun was fantastic! He looked so awkward holding it, epecially next to Ford who was all militant about everything. I have to say, the entire episode was really planned out well, they didn't stay stuck in one scene for very long, it kept moving. We saw some great leadership from both Sheppard and Ford. The fact that they're AF means that we don't have to wait for them to have a 20 minute discussion on what they should do next. It was all about following orders, I liked that.

That's it! Atlantis ships are too confusing, I'm giving up on it for now. Why can't everything be as obvious as S/J? ;)

Gothann
November 9th, 2004, 07:19 AM
As for ship, it's strange, but everyone seems to be too casual with everyone else, causing a LOT of problems in finding out who cares for who. Personally I'm kind of neutral for Atlantis ship right now.

Ooh, I just remembered something... I found it quite cool when Tayla took Sora's knife and threw it straight down. It made a dent in the floor! (which is strange)

g.o.d
November 9th, 2004, 08:30 AM
REASONS TO MOVE TO CANADA:

-BusH for 4 more Years? Ack for me.
-STARGATE!

I don't agree.

-Bush is a great guy.
-We have internet, p2p, etc.You can download all epis

veneticuss
November 9th, 2004, 08:36 AM
I just wanted to ask whether anybody could PM me a working site where i can download This episode. Do NOT post the link here. I also cant use torrent, so maybe you know a non torrent site?
Thanks a lot
Veneticuss

g.o.d
November 9th, 2004, 08:39 AM
I just wanted to ask whether anybody could PM me a working site where i can download This episode. Do NOT post the link here. I also cant use torrent, so maybe you know a non torrent site?
Thanks a lot
Veneticuss


I don't know:-)

Gothann
November 9th, 2004, 08:52 AM
I just saw it again (taped it!) and I must say, I found that imprisonment of Sora may be a preventative measure, but if the Atlantis Expedition wants to make allies out of the Genii, releasing her soon would be advised.

veneticuss
November 9th, 2004, 09:26 AM
I just saw it again (taped it!) and I must say, I found that imprisonment of Sora may be a preventative measure, but if the Atlantis Expedition wants to make allies out of the Genii, releasing her soon would be advised.
Making allies with genii? I dont think it is possible anymore. Maybev just get friendly with a Genii resistance later

Gothann
November 9th, 2004, 09:33 AM
Making allies with genii? I dont think it is possible anymore. Maybev just get friendly with a Genii resistance later
Well, it's true that Sora doesn't have THAT much influence...

But, if she can become friends with Tayla and AE, she might become the one who will sway the Genii into an alliance with the Atlantis Expedition. I say alliance because friendship seems to have a strange meaning in SGA, mostly referring to being close to another person/race. Ally seems to be more of a cold term, being somewhat on equal terms.

Come to think of it, the word "Ally" has a strange meaning in the SG franchise. Friendship is a term we would use for alliance, Alliance is a term we'd call "on the same side, no more, no less"

Blueicus
November 9th, 2004, 11:04 AM
Obviously, the Atlantis writers are trying for a new sort of ship, the group ship (it's one big lovin' family)... or a delicate ship web... like a soap opera :).

Wass
November 9th, 2004, 12:51 PM
I think the Genii will be pain in SGA a** for along time they are not the sort of people who like to work with others in fighting the wraith there certain amount of arrogance in them.

Mio
November 9th, 2004, 01:47 PM
Oh wow. This was a good episode :)

Best parts:

McKay's Do Not Touch sign.
When the 55 died because sheppard raised the iris.
Every scene with the outer views of the city. I'll never get over how good the VFX came out.

april_flower75
November 9th, 2004, 02:44 PM
This episode had the most Ford screen time since 38 minutes. I think he had more dialogue in the Eye as well. I so laughed at McKay's sign. And im still laughing. hahaha.

And Teyla's fight was awsome. I agree (with whoever said it earlier) that I thought it would just be an excuse for a cat fight, but it really was awsome, and it had meaning. I didnt think Teyla would kick Sora's ass as easily as she did, but boy was i glad to see it, Sora needed to be put in her place. I dont think shell become a returning character tho, she isnt in any of the pictures of the other episodes.

McKay stepping in front of Wier was my favourite. It rocked.

Gothann
November 9th, 2004, 04:26 PM
Seeing as how Sora might not be released for a while from Atlantis, due to trust issues, might be why she won't come back anytime soon, but she's a definite plot device for the Genii arc.

As for the outer scenes of the city, I found the CG effect of the shield being raised just as the tsunami hits was awesome. The break of the wave, being pushed and partially vaporized... That was really nice, excellent detail.

This is by far the best episode in the series. It's sad that most non-pirate Americans will only get to see this in January, I feel bad for THEM. I mean, this show rocked me out of my bed, all gitty and stuff, when it ended.

My review:
Acting: 5 stars
Looks (excluding CG): 4
CG: 5
Story: 5 (5++ if you saw The Storm)
Action: 5
Overall: 5 (I saw The Storm)

So yeah, this is the best episode yet. I hope The Siege will top this one. Then I'll be in HEAVEN!

Chlex
November 9th, 2004, 05:32 PM
Nice review, that definitely was the best episode since the pilot. Maybe it's not the one I'll end up watching the most often, but as far as the action/plot was concerned, it was great. Probably spent a lot of money on it too- the CGI was really impressive. It's like watching a movie.

Personally, I'm not too concerned about Sora coming back. I watched the episode again and I still don't like her... She's like a hybrid of Goldilocks and Elle Woods. That's just my opinion though ;)

I really wish they'd played the trailer for next week's episode!

MartoufMarty
November 9th, 2004, 05:38 PM
I wish they would air a 'next time on Stargate Atlantis' but it's just not what Canadian televison likes to do lol.

I really liked Sora. I don't know what it is, but she's cool. That might just be me though.

Major Fischer
November 9th, 2004, 05:47 PM
I really liked Sora. I don't know what it is, but she's cool. That might just be me though.

We all know your tastes though *coughBaalJackcough*

Gothann
November 9th, 2004, 05:55 PM
Well... Sora kind of grew onto me after having seen "Underground" three times before The Eye. That's why I'm a recurring-character-Sora fan.

:)

MartoufMarty
November 9th, 2004, 06:27 PM
We all know your tastes though *coughBaalJackcough*
Hey! What's wrong with Jack/Ba'al? Jeez. Do you have a problem with Daniel/Pete too? :P

I like McKay, Beckett, Sheppard, Weir, Teyla, Ford, Sora, Koyla, Steve, Jonas, Luke, Pete, Osiris, Reese, Fifth, The Replicators, Nurrti, what's her face from Forsaken, and many others (I'm getting a little bored here lol), and many other pairings!

Do I make fun of you because of what pairings you like????

*cries*

MartoufMarty
November 9th, 2004, 06:29 PM
Well... Sora kind of grew onto me after having seen "Underground" three times before The Eye. That's why I'm a recurring-character-Sora fan.

:)
Yay! A Sora fan! I'm all for seeing her again!

But, first on the agenda to get Beckett to be in the opening credits lol.

alaskannut
November 9th, 2004, 06:56 PM
I'm pretty much in the same boat as veneticuss...so if anyone could PLEASE e-mail/PM me (PM preferred) with the address of a non-bit torrent site I would be deeply appreciative!!

Taonas
November 9th, 2004, 07:09 PM
This episode was absolutely AMAZING!!!!

I like the Genii, they're cool side enemies.

Blueicus
November 9th, 2004, 08:16 PM
With the death of 60 Genii soldiers, how tough will it be for them to recuperate their losses? Assuming a total Genii population of several hundred thousand (The Athosians seem to have on the order of only several hundred people, and being highly militaristic, half of the adult population are capable enough fighters to go on missions such as these), they will have severe reservations against doing something like that again.

ShadowMaat
November 9th, 2004, 08:46 PM
Interesting ep. Much love to be had for Atlantis and McKay in particular. He was Saving the Day all OVER the place in this ep! :D

So does this mean that he was bluffing about not being able to get the shields to work? Awww, and he sounded so believably panicked, too. ;)

I wondered about the bandage OUTSIDE the jacket. I guess I know McKay did it himself, but wrapping it around his actual clothing seemed a bit silly. Granted, it makes the bandage MUCH more visible, but... oh well.

A few things I noticed. Ford told Teyla and Carson not to use the radios because they might be monitored, but Shep seemed to have no problem with doing that. There was another scene where the Genii said "we can't" about something and then did it a few scenes later. I'll have to rewatch to see what it was.

Sorry, but the Teyla/Sora catfight did nothing for me. Yes, I get that Sora has some serious issues with Teyla and was determined to have immediate vengeance, but the whole fight sequence seemed very gratuitous to me, and her easy capitulation at the end was a disappointment. HOWEVER... I was actually kinda hoping Sora would get the upper hand and have to be shot by Carson, who would conveniently regain consciousness in time to save Teyla. ;)

LOVED seeing Ford get some scenes and some dialogue! Yay! And while I love his take-charge attitude, his constant nagging of Carson got old fast. Yes, we get that Carson talks too much. Maybe YOU should shut up and find another topic. :P

As far as shippiness goes, I could almost see Weir/McKay ship- she looked VERY grateful and impressed that he stepped in front of a gun for her and later she was huddling up against him for warmth. I wonder how cold that "rain" was, because she looked miserable. ;)

I hope they don't overdo the cutesy Trek references. A little goes a long way...

I was kind of amazed at Shep's ruthlessness in regards to the enemy. Notice how Ford used the Wraith stunner, but Shep was shooting to kill and even told Ford that- making him leave the stunner behind. I'm really surprised that abandoned stunner didn't come into play again. I was waiting for Sora to snag it and use it on Teyla- knock her out and then truss her up and kill her by slow degrees. *shrug* ah well. And the whole thing with Shep and the reinforcements slamming into the shield... wow. That's just.... cold. Necessary, I know, but cold. I think part of the difference here is that on SG-1, when Jaffa are killed, no one really cares. Knock down a whole field of enemy Jaffa and the most you'll get is maybe a pissed off reaction from the goa'uld. But with the Genii... Sora and Kolya both showed grief at the deaths- both of the soldiers Shep killed in the hallway and all the ones impacting on the shield. Do we know the significance of the guy Kolya asked about? The one Sora said died on the shield? Was it Kolya's son? It was a great human element, anyway, and nice to see death have SOME kind of impact. I like the darkness, too. I hope TPTB continue to use it effectively.

SFX were incredible. The waves, the storm, the lighnting, the tsunami... loved it all. I was also really impressed by the lightning-charged hallways. VERY cool. :D

w1cket01
November 9th, 2004, 09:16 PM
I thought it was a great episode but doesn't anyone think the life sign detector makes it easy to hide and sneak around undetected?

ShadowMaat
November 9th, 2004, 09:18 PM
Lifesigns detector is a bit TOO convenient, IMO. Although that being said, you'd also think there would be some way to code in "friendly" vs. "enemy/unknown" so you can tell the difference between them beyond "He's the dot getting rid of all the other dots". ;)

KayMan2k
November 9th, 2004, 09:49 PM
Probably, they just don't know how to do it yet.. looks at the manual for my HP h5550... erm, I mean Ancient life signs detector :) You should also be able to tell between Ancient (with special gene) v. Non-Ancient.

Liv
November 9th, 2004, 10:02 PM
Canada, I love thee. :D

Okay, first of all, did I call the resolution to what was gonna happen with Weir, or what? The second that McKay stepped in front of Weir I was pointing to the screen and going Ha! I knew it! Which of course I didn't, but I still made the right prediction when I was guessing what would happen - after The Storm had aired - so I say 'yay' for me. :p

Moving right along, I had a blast watching this episode and my expectations for it were more or less met.

I felt kind of bad for the actors, having to be out in that rain almost the entire time, but it made for some excellent acting so I don't feel TOO bad for them. ;)

They're certainly not taking the easy way out here, what with the deaths of the Genii, due to the raised shield. That scene sort of surprised of me, in a very un-Stargate way. It was dark and I like that.

Liked the interaction between McKay and Weir, and how they took care of each other, throughout their ordeal. They worked really well together and I have to say that this episode pushed Weir up a couple of steps on the I'm beginning to like this character - ladder. Yes, there is a ladder. Sort of. :p

Loved the handwritten sign by McKay. :D

The fight between Teyla and Sora was a lot better than I had expected. I thought they were gonna go with a couple of swings and misses, more or less, but they made it really work. And this is a side of Teyla that I want to see more of. Finally, she was acting more like a warrior and less of an eye-candy piece who only gets to wonder about the way things work back on Earth and look at people questioningly. More of this Teyla and less Home - Teyla, and I'll be happy. She could join the ranks of Weir on the ladder, if she keeps this up. :p

And... here's something I never thought I'd say; I saw a bit of ship between Sheppard and Weir, right after he's shot Kolya and he runs up to her to ask if she's okay. I thought it was really sweet and it didn't make me cringe at all. Wonders never cease, eh? :p

And I gotta say, I am loving Atlantis so very much. It has a great feel to it and I'm curious where the writers are gonna go in terms of future storylines. Can't wait for the next episode!

Gothann
November 10th, 2004, 03:35 AM
I'd like to point out the armory in this episode. Against a crate there are 4 Wraith stunners.

Spoilers to Suspicion...

Now, remind me if I'm wrong, but didn't that small team in Suspicion consist of 3 Wraith guards and Steve? Where'd they get that 4th stunner?

waz
November 10th, 2004, 04:07 AM
I'd like to point out the armory in this episode. Against a crate there are 4 Wraith stunners.

Spoilers to Suspicion...

Now, remind me if I'm wrong, but didn't that small team in Suspicion consist of 3 Wraith guards and Steve? Where'd they get that 4th stunner?
Ebay :D

Wass
November 10th, 2004, 04:19 AM
I'd like to point out the armory in this episode. Against a crate there are 4 Wraith stunners.

Spoilers to Suspicion...

Now, remind me if I'm wrong, but didn't that small team in Suspicion consist of 3 Wraith guards and Steve? Where'd they get that 4th stunner?

Wraith are selling there merchandise on sale in Amazon LOL.

Wass
November 10th, 2004, 04:20 AM
I'd like to point out the armory in this episode. Against a crate there are 4 Wraith stunners.

Spoilers to Suspicion...

Now, remind me if I'm wrong, but didn't that small team in Suspicion consist of 3 Wraith guards and Steve? Where'd they get that 4th stunner?


Wraith are selling there merchandise on sale in Amazon LOL. :p

Wass
November 10th, 2004, 04:28 AM
I was pleasantly surprised by how good this episode was, Mckay was fantastic as always. I found Ford and Becketts interaction very amusing, Beckett was so funny. The only thing I did not like about this episode was the fight between Teyla and Sora I was disappointed by it.

keppiezbt
November 10th, 2004, 06:06 AM
how did this episode end? all spoilers never told me how it ended!!! somone tell me!!!! pleasE1

keppiezbt
November 10th, 2004, 06:07 AM
how did they get enough power to get the sheild up!!!

AlphaBlu
November 10th, 2004, 07:18 AM
So Canada is ahead of the rest of the world with Atlantis now? Ok, sure. As long as there's a new ep next week I'm fine with that.

As for the Ep, it was great. I didn't like it as much as The Storm, but as a second part of a two parter it wasn't a let down (like, say, Last Stand was to Summit).

Bits that struck a cord:

McKay getting in front of the gun - fantastic stuff there.

Sheppard's "I will kill you". Delivered so well.

Ford actually doing something for a change. Him and Becket worked quite well together. Their arguing was well placed and didn't seem forced.

Sora... http://kier.3dfrontier.com/smilies/naughty.gif. Man is she a beauty. "Cute" doesn't even describe it.

Sheppard kicking ass.

McKay's sign. LOL!

The gate shield killing the 55-men. That was brutal, and worked very well.

Kolya. He was, again, very cool. Can't wait for him to come back later in the Season.

McKay and Weir, the whole way through. I am now totally in love with Tori Higginson. She was fantastic. McKay was excellent, the best he's ever been (even better than in Childhood's End).

Sora v Teyla - very nice fight. Teyla just *****slapped Sora across the room, and it was just two incredible beautiful women fighting. Can't argue with that. Hopefully Sora isn't gone for good. I like her character and I hate it when people just vanish off a show.

I'm going to watch this again tomorrow. Well worth the wait.

BYE

ShadowMaat
November 10th, 2004, 08:07 AM
Can I just add a small word about how it's nice to identify what is being spoiled? Please? "Spoilers" can mean so MANY things- spoilers for the ep being discussed, spoilers for an ep prior to the one being discussed, spoilers for something upcoming... Thanks kindly. :) I've just seen vague warnings a couple of times recently...


What was the thing that Ford picked up in the armory? The others left and he hung back and picked up... a grenade or something? He made it look very surreptitious- as if he didn't want the others to know...

Liv
November 10th, 2004, 08:24 AM
What was the thing that Ford picked up in the armory? The others left and he hung back and picked up... a grenade or something? He made it look very surreptitious- as if he didn't want the others to know...
Kind of wondered about that myself... I didn't think it looked like a Oh, wait I forgot something! scene at first glance, but I'm guessing, having watched the scene again that it wasn't supposed to be as sneaky as it looked. Still couldn't make out what it was, but I'm thinking he picked up one or two extra gun clips. Maybe. ;)

aschen
November 10th, 2004, 08:43 AM
I cannot wait to get home and watch it. :D

michelleb
November 10th, 2004, 08:47 AM
Spoiler tags aren't really needed.

Anyways, I didn't really notice that much Shep/Weir shippage in that episode... I saw McKay/Weir! I mean, did you see him with his arm wrapped around her? lol

Loved the 'Really Really Dangerous Don't Touch' sign for the generator hehehehe.


mckay/wier!!!!! yay!!! shep/wier doesn't really work for me. i'm so jealous now. i thought it would get in to the UK first, i can't wait as long as that to see it, gonna have to go on a search for it. it sounds fantastic though. and any episode with Dr 'Single!' Beckett in it has to be good.

ShadowMaat
November 10th, 2004, 08:57 AM
Kind of wondered about that myself... I didn't think it looked like a Oh, wait I forgot something! scene at first glance, but I'm guessing, having watched the scene again that it wasn't supposed to be as sneaky as it looked. Still couldn't make out what it was, but I'm thinking he picked up one or two extra gun clips. Maybe. ;)
Probably. It just looked odd. But then, the lingering on the abandoned Wraith gun looked important, too, and that turned out to be nothing. *sigh*

Of course, I also wondered at the wisdom of skulking around with a gun that glows in the dark. ;)

OfF3nSiV3
November 10th, 2004, 10:42 AM
i loved the realism (well relatively to the sg world of course..) about killing the genii, it would be absurd to spare genii's lifes when they don't hesitate in killing sga's
relations between the genii will be tight in the future
i loved sfx..very nice

Blueicus
November 10th, 2004, 11:12 AM
i loved the realism (well relatively to the sg world of course..) about killing the genii, it would be absurd to spare genii's lifes when they don't hesitate in killing sga's
relations between the genii will be tight in the future
i loved sfx..very nice

But if the Wraith stunners were better than the weapons used by the SGA team in other ways (rate of fire, accuracy, projectile speed, etc.), then I see no reason not to simply incapacitate them now and capture them later (though it would be a disadvantage to have these people recover from stun mid battle and continue the fight).

Also, ever notice how most Sci-fi energy projectile weapons have projectiles that move so slowly and/or has such a slow rate of fire? There must be other advantages to using them (no recoil and all that)...

AlphaBlu
November 10th, 2004, 04:18 PM
Can I just add a small word about how it's nice to identify what is being spoiled? Please?
Well it's not this episode, it's certainly not previous episodes (as it's assumed you've seen them before seeing this one), so it can only be about an upcoming episode.

A very simple process of elimination there.

And Ford went back and grabbed a couple of extra P-90 mags.

BYE

ShadowMaat
November 10th, 2004, 04:27 PM
Well it's not this episode, it's certainly not previous episodes (as it's assumed you've seen them before seeing this one), so it can only be about an upcoming episode.
Actually, I've learned to assume NOTHING where spoiler tags are concerned. Everyone has different interpretations of what constitutes a spoiler and just because YOU use spoiler tags for upcoming eps doesn't mean EVERYONE does and contrary to popular belief, I'm not a mind reader. :P

Think we'll see any toughening up of Carson in future eps, or is he reduced to whinging in combat situations? ;)

Vyse
November 10th, 2004, 04:40 PM
If anyone has info. on this episode (wink) please feel free to discuss it with me at here ([email protected])!

aschen
November 10th, 2004, 04:51 PM
That sign kicked butt! :D

This really was the best episode of Atlantis thus far. :)

Gothann
November 10th, 2004, 05:03 PM
I've posted way too many times in this thread without even mentionning the sign.

I like the way McKay signed it. He seems to have extremely bad handwriting...

aschen
November 10th, 2004, 05:03 PM
Nah, his hand writing is better than mine. I write everything really small. :)

Skydiver
November 10th, 2004, 05:22 PM
I'm too tired to read everyone's posts, but this episode was fun. nice, action packed and...fun

i loved rodney's sign, i laughed out loud. and i came up with a new bit

what would mckay do
WWMD

mmhm, could translate to
wow
weapon of
mass
destruction

;)

Skydiver
November 10th, 2004, 05:25 PM
ooh, and i hope zorah (goldilocks) hands out longer. now SHE has potential

Positively Kanyon
November 10th, 2004, 11:17 PM
Yeah I thought McKay's sign was pretty hilarious. My favourite part of the whole episode was Sheppard taking the Genii to town and just kicking ass.

chodu82
November 11th, 2004, 07:21 AM
in this episode some1s son dies when gate shields are activated. i heard kolya say athos's son. whos athos or did i hear wrong????

MartoufMarty
November 11th, 2004, 09:34 AM
in this episode some1s son dies when gate shields are activated. i heard kolya say athos's son. whos athos or did i hear wrong????
They never really explained that. Probably in a later episode they might explain that. Koyla just asked if that guy made it through, and after Sora told him he didn't, he had that sad look to him lol.

I'm guessing that they guy was probably his son, or the son of that other Genii guy from Underground.

aschen
November 11th, 2004, 10:12 AM
It was his son. If you listen very closely right after he finds out that the iris has been put up, he goes "Did my son make it through?" The one guy doesn't hear him clearly, so he asks by his son's name. :D

waz
November 11th, 2004, 10:17 AM
in this episode some1s son dies when gate shields are activated. i heard kolya say athos's son. whos athos or did i hear wrong????
He's right, aschen your wrong.......

Skydiver
November 11th, 2004, 10:20 AM
It was his son. If you listen very closely right after he finds out that the iris has been put up, he goes "Did my son make it through?" The one guy doesn't hear him clearly, so he asks by his son's name. :D


that's how i understood it. koyla asked did my son make it through
sora goes who? he says whatver the man's name was and sora tells him no

so now we're gonna have another genii ticked off and in a blood feud with atlantis crew

aschen
November 11th, 2004, 10:23 AM
Athos = Koyla's son
Athos = walked into iris and is now dead
Koyla = really mad

aschen
November 11th, 2004, 10:24 AM
He's right, aschen your wrong.......
No I'm not. :P

Does anyone else wish to watch the episode right now and verify it for me so I can give this kid a good flogging? ;)

MartoufMarty
November 11th, 2004, 10:33 AM
"Did Atho's son make it through the gate?"

"I'm sorry?"

"His name is Idos (sp). Did he make it?"

"No, sir."

That's what was said.

aschen
November 11th, 2004, 10:37 AM
Well how do YOU know?

MartoufMarty
November 11th, 2004, 10:42 AM
Well how do YOU know?
Because I have the episode on my computer :P

I watched it on TV too :P

I'm in Canada, duh. :P

aschen
November 11th, 2004, 10:58 AM
Oh yeah?? Well, I watched it in surround sound!

MartoufMarty
November 11th, 2004, 11:03 AM
Oh yeah?? Well, I watched it in surround sound!
Me too! :P

aschen
November 11th, 2004, 11:04 AM
Which Version?? :S

Wass
November 11th, 2004, 11:11 AM
"Did Atho's son make it through the gate?"

"I'm sorry?"

"His name is Idos (sp). Did he make it?"

"No, sir."

That's what was said.


I've just had look the episode above is what he said at this 0:20:46 of the episode duration, therefore it was not his son unless he is “Atho’s”. It could be his brother or friend.

MartoufMarty
November 11th, 2004, 11:13 AM
I've just had look the episode above is what he said at this 0:20:46 of the episode duration, therefore it was not his son unless he is “Atho’s”. It could be his brother or friend.
I'm guessing that Atho's is Koyla's brother, thus Idos being his nephew.

MartoufMarty
November 11th, 2004, 11:14 AM
Which Version?? :S
... Of what?

ShadowMaat
November 11th, 2004, 08:27 PM
Oh yeah?? Well, I watched it in surround sound!
Maybe you need to get your ears checked, then. :P I never heard the "my son" bit, either. And I don't have surround sound! :D

vfxsoup
November 12th, 2004, 03:24 AM
It was...

"Did Athor's son make it through the gate"

Mark Breakspear

MartoufMarty
November 12th, 2004, 03:30 AM
See! If all else fails, have a big-wig step in to tell you! :P

Mr. Seven
November 12th, 2004, 04:19 AM
WOW THIS ROCKED!

I had to watch it, I couldn't wait until Jan.

Just a question though..what did the Jeni take back through the gate with them on the stretcher? I thought Sheperd took all the C4? I wonder what they raided..

It wasn't addressed so it was probably just some food or something.

Beckett and McKay were awesome this ep. I liked their exchange towards the end.

Sheperd...man that guy puts Solid Snake to shame! I knew he'd kill those guys. He's a soldier after all.

That was one of the worst fight scenes I have ever seen on TV between Teyla and Sora though. Way too long, they were just filling up time by doing different moves, locks, and strikes.

MartoufMarty
November 12th, 2004, 04:24 AM
Remember from the Storm when they came through the gate they had stuff with them. They probably took their weapons and what-not back with them.

Athenaktt
November 12th, 2004, 04:54 AM
See! If all else fails, have a big-wig step in to tell you! :P

LMAO...I was gonna join the "you're wrong Aschen brigade" but seeing that the big-wig stepped in. I'll just...never mind. :p

Mr. Seven
November 12th, 2004, 05:37 AM
How about the tension between Weir and Shepperd?

Very cool stuff, they will never do anything about it though since when the two people get together the series pretty much tanks in the ratings.

-Moonlighting
-Who's the Boss
-Lois and Clark


Just to name a few.

Oh and how cool was Shepperds response to Coya killing Weir...

Do you think Coya's dead? I think he's too good of a villain to go out that way. He will most likely be Shepperd's nemesis (Khan).

Athenaktt
November 12th, 2004, 05:45 AM
How about the tension between Weir and Shepperd?

Very cool stuff, they will never do anything about it though since when the two people get together the series pretty much tanks in the ratings.

I personally don't think that having two people get together in a series tanks the ratings. There is always more to it...such as writing/story/plots weaken or series that have run way pass their creativity courses...but that just me.



Do you think Coya's dead? I think he's too good of a villain to go out that way. He will most likely be Shepperd's nemesis (Khan).

I read in a spoiler for an later episode That Robert Davi will return as the role of Kolya...so that is a safe bet that Kolya isn't dead yet.

ShadowMaat
November 12th, 2004, 09:34 AM
Yes, ship can be fun... when it's done well but so often it's a crutch for desperate writers that I'd really rather not see it attempted- especially since, IMO, the Stargate writers couldn't write decent ship if their lives depended on it. Not anymore. Sorry, but they've already ruined SG-1 for me with their heavy-handed tactics, I don't want Atlantis to be ruined, too.

Personally, I didn't see anything at all between Weir and Shep. Weir and McKay, on the other hand. It won't go anywhere, but it was funny to pick up on it since it's almost certainly unintentional on the part of the writers. And I hope they KEEP it that way. :P

Have we confirmed that we don't know who Athor and his son are? Dangling thread for another ep? ;)

michelleb
November 12th, 2004, 10:00 AM
Yes, ship can be fun... when it's done well but so often it's a crutch for desperate writers that I'd really rather not see it attempted- especially since, IMO, the Stargate writers couldn't write decent ship if their lives depended on it. Not anymore.

certainly not lately. i find it's the actors and non-verbal communication that carries the ship for me lately, not the script


Sorry, but they've already ruined SG-1 for me with their heavy-handed tactics, I don't want Atlantis to be ruined, too. [

Personally, I didn't see anything at all between Weir and Shep. Weir and McKay, on the other hand. It won't go anywhere, but it was funny to pick up on it since it's almost certainly unintentional on the part of the writers. And I hope they KEEP it that way. :P

i've seen weir and mackay since 38 minutes...it's the way they call each other elizabeth and rodney (i know she calls everyone by their first name, but he doesn't). i think they should stand back on the ship for a while, let the actors find their way, play out what ship they like, and see where the fans and actors take it. Torri Higginson and David Hewlett are quite capable of slipping in subtle ship without having it written for them. besides, i can't imagine McKay saying ' i love you'..that just wouldn't work..but stepping in front of the gun...now that's the kind i like.

so, is colm meaney going to be around again? he plays evil so well.

Gothann
November 12th, 2004, 11:47 AM
certainly not lately. i find it's the actors and non-verbal communication that carries the ship for me lately, not the script



i've seen weir and mackay since 38 minutes...it's the way they call each other elizabeth and rodney (i know she calls everyone by their first name, but he doesn't). i think they should stand back on the ship for a while, let the actors find their way, play out what ship they like, and see where the fans and actors take it. Torri Higginson and David Hewlett are quite capable of slipping in subtle ship without having it written for them. besides, i can't imagine McKay saying ' i love you'..that just wouldn't work..but stepping in front of the gun...now that's the kind i like.

so, is colm meaney going to be around again? he plays evil so well.
Umm, McKay doesn't call Weir by her last name because he seems to have trouble saying it (unfortunately, as a result of being "Canadian" he can't say Zee or "ei" sounds too well, of course, that's exagerated)

michelleb
November 12th, 2004, 11:51 AM
no, being canadian, he pronounces Zee correctly, as Zed. like we do here in England, the home of the English language :p

Gregorius
November 12th, 2004, 11:56 AM
no, being canadian, he pronounces Zee correctly, as Zed. like we do here in England, the home of the English language :p

Like most Europeans pronouce it :)

AlphaBlu
November 12th, 2004, 12:17 PM
Like most Europeans pronouce it :)
And Australians.

BYE

ArcLight
November 12th, 2004, 12:22 PM
Just saw the episode and I truly have to say that SGA is back with a bang!!!!
I liked the fact that Sheppard really went on a vengeace and not try to be soft on the invaders. Nice trick of him to put the iris on while the reinforcements were coming true. I guess the genii won't have much of a special forces for a while :D
Can't wait for the next episode....

keppiezbt
November 12th, 2004, 01:18 PM
how the hell does this episode end!! email it to me- [email protected] tell me it in detail!!

dancing hampster
November 12th, 2004, 03:46 PM
[I saw some of the screen caps for "The Eye". What happens to McKay right after Koyla lets him go after holding him over the railing? Looked McKay was hurting but couldn't tell why.


Thanks, from a frustrated American. :S

chodu82
November 12th, 2004, 03:54 PM
who is athos?

veneticuss
November 12th, 2004, 04:00 PM
A good episode. One thing i didnt understand though. Why didnt the Genii kill all the atlantis crew on the evacuated planet?

Atlantis1
November 12th, 2004, 04:12 PM
I sure want to see this episode sooo much! I hate Sci-fi channel. :(

Athenaktt
November 12th, 2004, 04:34 PM
[I saw some of the screen caps for "The Eye". What happens to McKay right after Koyla lets him go after holding him over the railing? Looked McKay was hurting but couldn't tell why.


Thanks, from a frustrated American. :S

Well they did give Mckay a nasty cut in "The storm" he might have been wincing from pain from that.

Athenaktt
November 12th, 2004, 04:38 PM
A good episode. One thing i didnt understand though. Why didnt the Genii kill all the atlantis crew on the evacuated planet?

I think the Genii didn't kill the atlantis crew on the other planet for the same reason the decided to attack Atlantis base. I think with the atlantis crew and their more advance technology, the Genii would not stand a chance fighting against the whole atlantis crew.

As for on Atlantis base ,there was only supposedly 3 people which is suppose to be easier to take over. And If they did get control of Atlantis base. The Atlantis crew would be screwed anyway.

(I think that made sense)

Shipperahoy
November 12th, 2004, 04:46 PM
My question is, what exactly did happen to the Atlantis personnel and the Athosians that were evacuated? Did I miss a part where they got them back? And what happened to the jerk who sold them out?

Athenaktt
November 12th, 2004, 05:23 PM
My question is, what exactly did happen to the Atlantis personnel and the Athosians that were evacuated? Did I miss a part where they got them back? And what happened to the jerk who sold them out?


I remember the scene at the end when Sheppard and Weir are talking on the balcony in the control room, and for a moment you can see the Athosians and the Atlatnis personnel coming back through the Stargate.

So i guess you did miss them coming back. It was a pretty short shot before they zoomed in on Sheppard and Weir.

And that idiot who sold them out...never talked about him again...for now.

Wass
November 12th, 2004, 05:34 PM
Didn't the Genii kill the Athosian guy I’m sure they take him away and your left with an impression that they are going to kill him. Does any one else think that's what happen or is it just me.

veneticuss
November 13th, 2004, 05:54 AM
I think the Genii didn't kill the atlantis crew on the other planet for the same reason the decided to attack Atlantis base. I think with the atlantis crew and their more advance technology, the Genii would not stand a chance fighting against the whole atlantis crew.

As for on Atlantis base ,there was only supposedly 3 people which is suppose to be easier to take over. And If they did get control of Atlantis base. The Atlantis crew would be screwed anyway.

(I think that made sense)
Yes, but they could have done it while everybody was sleeping, or do you think they were standing guard? So killijng the crew would be a good idea, wouldnt it?

Athenaktt
November 13th, 2004, 06:11 AM
Yes, but they could have done it while everybody was sleeping, or do you think they were standing guard? So killijng the crew would be a good idea, wouldnt it?

I'd think there would be people standing guard...regardless if it was a "friendly" planet or not, since they are in a different galaxy. I doubt the Atlantis crew would be that careless or naive. Besides the crew includes the scientist and the miliatry personnel along with the athosians. I just assume the Military would some sort of watch. After all they are there as a safeguard to the others...i think.

ArcLight
November 13th, 2004, 07:16 AM
Yes, but they could have done it while everybody was sleeping, or do you think they were standing guard? So killijng the crew would be a good idea, wouldnt it?
I think, as they were off-base, the military people would organize a light guard duty around the place they were in as there are many threats to them when they're not in Atlantis.
And in any case I remember when I was not at the barracks I basicly slept one eye open so that when anyone who came to the tent I was ready to react to it.

Kip_Cathey_Furlings_are_Cats
November 13th, 2004, 02:01 PM
Hey, I'm a poor frustrated American who wont get to see this epi on the tele until Jan. Could someone send me a privi mess about a site that has it so i can download it? Cuz I am horrid at waiting, just ask my mom.

Athenaktt
November 13th, 2004, 05:57 PM
I think, as they were off-base, the military people would organize a light guard duty around the place they were in as there are many threats to them when they're not in Atlantis.
And in any case I remember when I was not at the barracks I basicly slept one eye open so that when anyone who came to the tent I was ready to react to it.

yeah what he said...Arclight said it more coherrently then me i think...i think i still need sleep. :S

Gothann
November 13th, 2004, 05:58 PM
no, being canadian, he pronounces Zee correctly, as Zed. like we do here in England, the home of the English language :p
I'm Canadian and I say "Zee" and "Zed", depending on how I feel. Really, there isn't much change between American and Canadian english to me, I speak both quite fluently ^_^

Not to mention, McKay represents what most stereotypes don't: someone who can articulate and doesn't live in an igloo.

Now, as for Atho, I'm not sure about who it is, but I AM sure about him not being Colm Meaney's character.

Athenaktt
November 13th, 2004, 06:04 PM
Now, as for Atho, I'm not sure about who it is, but I AM sure about him not being Colm Meaney's character.

Yeah...definately not Colm Meaney's character, his name was Kalen? i think.

And out of boredom I watched all the episodes with the Genii in it now mention of Atho..maybe they'll talk about him later... or not.

Harlan
November 13th, 2004, 06:30 PM
Wow ! It really rocked !

My favorite scene is definitely when Sheppard turns the Gate Shield on and all the Genii troops crash on it ! That's really a nice thing for me !

I noticed a little detail. Look at THIS CAP (http://stargate-sg1.hu/atlantis/photos/index.php?spgmGal=Atlantis_Season_1/111_The_Eye_-_caps_by_AG&spgmPic=226&spgmFilters=#pic) from the Episode. The Gate is opened, but there's no light on the chevrons ! Well, that's really an insignificant thing but I wanted to notice it :D :rolleyes: .

waz
November 13th, 2004, 07:50 PM
I noticed a little detail. Look at THIS CAP (http://stargate-sg1.hu/atlantis/photos/index.php?spgmGal=Atlantis_Season_1/111_The_Eye_-_caps_by_AG&spgmPic=226&spgmFilters=#pic) from the Episode. The Gate is opened, but there's no light on the chevrons ! Well, that's really an insignificant thing but I wanted to notice it :D :rolleyes: .

I would be amazed if anyone actually noticed it first time they watched it.......your not supposed to be looking there :mad:

Harlan
November 13th, 2004, 08:00 PM
I would be amazed if anyone actually noticed it first time they watched it.......your not supposed to be looking there :mad:
Indeed :D . Don't be afraid ^^ : I didn't pay any attention to this detail the first time I saw the episode.
I was so amazed that I didn't look the Gate in this crucial part of the story.
I only noticed it after, when I was re-watching the best moments of the episode ;) .

ArcLight
November 13th, 2004, 11:51 PM
yeah what he said...Arclight said it more coherrently then me i think...i think i still need sleep. :S
actually it's me who needs sleep as I didn't notice your post that was just above mine :D

Athenaktt
November 14th, 2004, 12:47 AM
actually it's me who needs sleep as I didn't notice your post that was just above mine :D

LOL...apparently both of us need sleep...or some caffine to open our eyes.

Gothann
November 14th, 2004, 01:36 AM
Wow ! It really rocked !

My favorite scene is definitely when Sheppard turns the Gate Shield on and all the Genii troops crash on it ! That's really a nice thing for me !

I noticed a little detail. Look at THIS CAP (http://stargate-sg1.hu/atlantis/photos/index.php?spgmGal=Atlantis_Season_1/111_The_Eye_-_caps_by_AG&spgmPic=226&spgmFilters=#pic) from the Episode. The Gate is opened, but there's no light on the chevrons ! Well, that's really an insignificant thing but I wanted to notice it :D :rolleyes: .
I thought it was because the Stargate functions were at a minimal? (hence the conservation of energy, due to it only being in Primary Systems mode)

Oh, and don't bring up the time the Genii gate activates, it's known that gates draw power from the other one in order to open, so that might enable the lights to turn on.

Elwe Singollo
November 14th, 2004, 03:07 AM
Although i'm not replying to recent posts, i would like to comment on a part in this episode.

The Teyla versus Sora. I thought it was totally crappy. I was comparing the fight with Teyla vs Ed, and Teyla vs Sora, they totally downgraded Teyla. Although some people liked the fight because it lasted more than a hit and a swing, i thought it should have been exactly that, a hit and a miss, and get knocked out (ok maybe a little longer than that), but maybe its just me and my hatred towards the fight. Also, i think it was also bad choreography compared to Teyla vs Ed.

Other than that chunk of the episode, i liked it :)

Gothann
November 14th, 2004, 06:08 AM
Although i'm not replying to recent posts, i would like to comment on a part in this episode.

The Teyla versus Sora. I thought it was totally crappy. I was comparing the fight with Teyla vs Ed, and Teyla vs Sora, they totally downgraded Teyla. Although some people liked the fight because it lasted more than a hit and a swing, i thought it should have been exactly that, a hit and a miss, and get knocked out (ok maybe a little longer than that), but maybe its just me and my hatred towards the fight. Also, i think it was also bad choreography compared to Teyla vs Ed.

Other than that chunk of the episode, i liked it :)
You have to consider the weapon: a dagger.

You can't exactly do anything without having to block and evade much, not doing so will get you cut, or worse, killed VERY quickly.

You also have to notice one last thing: Teyla was holding back, NOT to kill Sora. That's something I found interesting about Teyla, even in the face of someone who wants to kill her, she persists in trying to reason.

That might come in handy sometime soon.

Gromit
November 14th, 2004, 04:54 PM
just a small gripe i noticed in this ep. When the city lost power anf the Gate etc were on pimary power, why then are the TV screens that sit in the background considered a primary system? Now dont get me wront they could be plugged into the powerpoint that is labelled Pimary power, but i'd image tv screens to be secondary power, and not needed to be on the primary power, considering it didnt really show anything except a little screensaver thingy that it does.

Gothann
November 14th, 2004, 05:35 PM
just a small gripe i noticed in this ep. When the city lost power anf the Gate etc were on pimary power, why then are the TV screens that sit in the background considered a primary system? Now dont get me wront they could be plugged into the powerpoint that is labelled Pimary power, but i'd image tv screens to be secondary power, and not needed to be on the primary power, considering it didnt really show anything except a little screensaver thingy that it does.
That might be excatly what you just said, screensavers.

But since they need the screens to activate the shield and all, I think they're active for that reason.

Gromit
November 14th, 2004, 05:52 PM
That might be excatly what you just said, screensavers.

But since they need the screens to activate the shield and all, I think they're active for that reason.


But the sheilds are activated from the consoles, not the screens in the background

Gothann
November 14th, 2004, 08:39 PM
But the sheilds are activated from the consoles, not the screens in the background
While it's true the shields are activated by the consoles, I'm pretty sure the ancients had to configure where the feed would go when the shield, or any primary system for that matter, would be activated.

Not to mention the largest screen is linked to the long range sensor system, something deemed primary (long range attacks were most likely the Ancients' fear, since the shield kept anyone from penetrating into the city)

Well, you could always contact TPTB and ask why they have a plot hole in their episode, but I wouldn't go there... What with there being a couple of other "technical problems" (Stargate lights not on), TPTB might just shrug it off with some sort of over-the-top elaborate coverup just to satisfy the people who notice so much detail... ^_^

Gromit
November 14th, 2004, 09:16 PM
While it's true the shields are activated by the consoles, I'm pretty sure the ancients had to configure where the feed would go when the shield, or any primary system for that matter, would be activated.

Not to mention the largest screen is linked to the long range sensor system, something deemed primary (long range attacks were most likely the Ancients' fear, since the shield kept anyone from penetrating into the city)

TPTB might just shrug it off with some sort of over-the-top elaborate coverup just to satisfy the people who notice so much detail... ^_^


Well its probably just me being too picky. Its just that the screen is usually sitting on a screensaver doing nothing in the background, except providing background, so when it was doing the same thing as usual even with main power systems down it just triggered the thought.

Shipperahoy
November 14th, 2004, 10:23 PM
I just wanted to add how blown away I was by the graphics. It was like watching a movie in the theatre, especially when the shields were raised and the wave came crashing against it. You can tell that they're really going all out for Atlantis.

Ugly Pig
November 15th, 2004, 07:23 AM
I know this is late, but I've been a busy pig lately. I haven't read what anyone else have had to say about it, so I don't know what has been discussed and what hasn't.


PIGGY'S USELESS OPINION
of 'The Eye'

I wish I'd seen this immediately after 'The Storm'. I didn't re-watch it before I watched this new one, so now it felt kind of distant and I felt like I couldn't really connect to what was happening on screen the way I usually do. Which is too bad, because it really looked like a darn cool episode.

The highlights for me were the incredible visual effects for the storm (especially as it was hitting Atlantis) and Sheppard offing the Genii strike team. I loved the scene where you see the four lifesigns on the screen, hear distant weapons fire and then see three of the lifesigns fading, leaving only Sheppard's. Very effective. Very cool. Funniest bit: Weir and her "codes".

The bad stuff: 1 - Still don't see much character development on Ford's part. I guess it will come eventually, though. He needs an episode to center around him. 2 - It was sometimes difficult to hear the dialogue, especially in the scenes with Weir, McKay and Kolya outside. Hopefully this won't be a problem for me when the DVD eventually arrives.

Back when 'The Storm' aired, I guessed that either Kolya or Sora would be dead by the end of 'The Eye'. I guess I was wrong. Kolya was shot, but escaped through the stargate. We didn't see him dead, so it is fair to assume we'll see him again. But I'm really curious about what will happen to Sora now.

Anyway... Looking forward to the next episode. It airs tonight, yes? I'll probably get to see it tomorrow. What a great time to be alive. :D

TameFarrar
November 15th, 2004, 08:21 AM
just a quick addition of MHO...yes I know everyone was waiting :D :D
I really enjoyed it overall.
Some nit picky things BUT nothing that stood out enough for me to point it out :)

I just really had a great time watching the show :D :D

keppiezbt
November 15th, 2004, 12:24 PM
how did they get the shield working if they have no zpm?

Wass
November 15th, 2004, 12:43 PM
By using the electricity from the storm to charge the shields generators which means the shields up for few minutes.

Gothann
November 15th, 2004, 04:28 PM
how did they get the shield working if they have no zpm?
The plan was explained in detail in The Storm...

It worked in The Eye.

Major Tyler
November 17th, 2004, 12:33 AM
Just for the sake of discussion:

Did anyone think that Sheppard ordering Ford to shoot-to-kill was a bit excessive? Personally, if Ford wanted to stun the last few Genii invaders and take them prisoner, I don't see why that would be bad. I understand the necessity to for Sheppard to kill, because he didn't know how long he would be running around, and he can't let targets live to pursue him again when they wake up.

Did anyone think John was just out for revenge?

lord-anubis
November 18th, 2004, 06:25 AM
i just saw this ep and i think it is one of the best stargate eps ever

aschen
November 18th, 2004, 07:25 AM
It definetely is!

aschen
November 18th, 2004, 07:27 AM
Just for the sake of discussion:

Did anyone think that Sheppard ordering Ford to shoot-to-kill was a bit excessive?
Definetely not. Anyone who invades your home turf should be thrown to the grave...and that's if they're lucky.

Major Tyler
November 18th, 2004, 08:20 AM
Definetely not. Anyone who invades your home turf should be thrown to the grave...and that's if they're lucky.I agree conceptually, but when they were about to pick off the last few Genii, the non-lethal option would have been just as effective. Killing earlier in the episode was necessary because Sheppard didn't have the time or resources to restrain the stunned Genii, so they could potentially threaten him again. John and Ford were making one last push to retake the gate, so once they were done, they could have sorted through the stunned bodies and taken them to the brig.

Trust me, there definately was a part of me that felt satisfaction and redemption when John raised the shield, or decended upon the assassination squad that came after him. Kolya killed two of our people in cold blood, and that is unacceptable. The Genii paid dearly for attacking us, and they will likely think twice before trying it again!

lord-anubis
November 18th, 2004, 01:38 PM
Yeah! It was so amazing.. Probably one of my favourites this season already. Oh god im not just saying this to bug you american guys either! I'm serious this episode rocks!!! WOOHOO can't wait till episode 12 next week :D :D ;)

well im a american and i saw this ep to so you can't bug me im so happy

AtlantisRising
November 20th, 2004, 02:30 PM
Ok, I will admit that i havent read through all the pages to this post, so it migh have been mentioned before. If so, please dont flame me. hehe.

Did anyone else find the city to be very eerie when we had the shots of lightning hitting the rods? I mean yeah, a lot of things look scarry when in shadows, but there was sometihng about the city. Maybe it was just the towering buildings, or my imagination, but it felt weird to look at. if you cant conjure up an image, heres one:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/Daryn/Image265.jpg
Btw: This image was taken from Abydos Gate Dot Com.

Now other then that. I must admit i liked this episode, I was on the egde of my seat practically screaming

Spoliers ahead, highlight below to read:
SHOOT HIM SHEPPARD!!!!! In the last scene with *Kolya* and Dr. Weir

It was really well done. It kept me entertained, and always thinking something like "would i do the same thing in that situation?". And we learned a lot more about Sheppard. And Mckay's ability to tollerate interrogation. lol.

What made me laugh though was, in the previous episode; Kolya said that (more [minor] spoilers for those who havent seen the episode) we were arrognat to think we were closer to the ancients then they were because we werent born in thier galaxy. When we know they returned to earth only 10 000 years ago. I was thinking "Weir, say something, god you know the truth!!!!" but im glad she didnt, now that i think of it, 1. he wouldnt have believed them. and 2. Even if he did know the truth, he probably wouldnt have cared.

Hmmm, what else about the episode.

Well, i was glad to see the shield in action....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/Daryn/Image278.jpg

Well thats all.
Thanks for your time.

~AR

TechnoBoY
November 20th, 2004, 06:39 PM
I havent seen the episode but I'm looking through the screencaps and WOW! I cant wait!

Jag
November 21st, 2004, 12:51 PM
Umm... Can someone tell why we have to wait until January to see he new episodes? I think TPTB are trying to build up the hype. Personally I am getting bored.... I have seen this happen to other shows as well. I have always been a strong SG fan but cutting a 20 episode season in half, and forcing the majority (assuming sci-fi is the majority) of the veiwers to wait 4 months to see the second half of a 2-parter is a bad judgement call. I have been watching re-runs of SG for over 6 years, why would I want to see more re-runs on Friday night? This Long exhausting break is causing me to loose interest. Perhaps this is just me venting my frustration of having to wait. Why buy the DVD's if you have seen every episode 10 times?

ShadowMaat
November 21st, 2004, 12:55 PM
It isn't TPTB, it's SCIFI. They run counter-programming so that their new shows/seasons premiere during what is normally rerun season. There's a hiatus when the other shows all have new eps and then it picks up again when those shows go into reruns. Or something like that...

waz
November 21st, 2004, 01:40 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/Daryn/Image265.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/Daryn/Image278.jpg


Now you know the VFX team has really been working hard for thier money.

Wass
November 21st, 2004, 02:01 PM
IMO I think they did a fine job so far for the season as whole.

Easter Lily
December 3rd, 2004, 09:15 PM
I agree conceptually, but when they were about to pick off the last few Genii, the non-lethal option would have been just as effective. Killing earlier in the episode was necessary because Sheppard didn't have the time or resources to restrain the stunned Genii, so they could potentially threaten him again. John and Ford were making one last push to retake the gate, so once they were done, they could have sorted through the stunned bodies and taken them to the brig.

Trust me, there definately was a part of me that felt satisfaction and redemption when John raised the shield, or decended upon the assassination squad that came after him. Kolya killed two of our people in cold blood, and that is unacceptable. The Genii paid dearly for attacking us, and they will likely think twice before trying it again!

I'm no military mind but this is my take on it:
From what I can remember, Kolya was ordered to pick up "certain" supplies but when he got there, he decided to get creative and take over the entire facility. It was his arrogance really that was ultimately his undoing... thinking that he can invade the place and take on an old hand like Sheppard without any preparation. Also, it was he who tried to take out Sheppard first and make threats about killing Weir and McKay as well... and at the risk of sounding ruthless... really, he did bring it upon himself. He himself told the Colm Meaney character that his troops weren't ready for the raid in the first place but becaue he was awestruck by Atlantis, he decided to claim it for the Genii. It was sheer arrogance on his part.

Major Tyler
December 3rd, 2004, 09:22 PM
I'm not saying that the killing in self-defense wasn't justified, it most certainly was; I'm just asking if it was necessary.

Erik Pasternak
December 3rd, 2004, 09:35 PM
I'm not saying that the killing in self-defense wasn't justified, it most certainly was; I'm just asking if it was necessary.
It was necessary. Especially as the Genii reinforcements came through the 'gate.

Major Tyler
December 3rd, 2004, 09:41 PM
It was necessary. Especially as the Genii reinforcements came through the 'gate.Sorry, :P I meant was it necessary when they made the last push for the gate. Sheppard told Aiden to put down the Stunner and "shoot to kill." If they were taking the last of the Genii, there was no real reason to go out of their way to kill them. If John had allowed Aiden to keep the Stunner, they'd had more hostages instead of more corpses. That's all I'm saying.

Erik Pasternak
December 3rd, 2004, 09:45 PM
Sorry, :P I meant was it necessary when they made the last push for the gate. Sheppard told Aiden to put down the Stunner and "shoot to kill." If they were taking the last of the Genii, there was no real reason to go out of their way to kill them. If John had allowed Aiden to keep the Stunner, they'd had more hostages instead of more corpses. That's all I'm saying.
Ok. I get ya. Makes sense, but in Sheppard's defense, the wraith stunner is bigger, bulkier, and probably harder to use than a P-90.

Major Tyler
December 3rd, 2004, 09:49 PM
Ok. I get ya. Makes sense, but in Sheppard's defense, the wraith stunner is bigger, bulkier, and probably harder to use than a P-90.That's true. Aiden was probably better off using the weapon he was most familiar with, but I'd still trust him with just about any weapon...that's the only significant thing that TPTB have told us about Lt. Ford. If I were him I'd be afraid of hitting Weir or McKay, so I'd probably want the Stunner, or better yet, a zat.

GatetheWay
December 11th, 2004, 09:55 AM
I don't know if this question has been asked yet and I also posted this on the Storm thread as well but I'm posting it here for good measure.

Question: When Atlantis got it's final grounding station disconnected and the sheild became powered up by lightning, electrifying the halls and leaving only the command tower safe, why didn't all their equipment and stuff they left in the city get fried?

Edit: Oh, and did anyone think Ford was a little too impatient with Beckett? I was starting to agree with Beckett that Ford was realy bossy when he was incommand but then again Ford must of been a little mad that both Tayla and Beckett shot down his discion to return to the city so many time in 'The Storm.'

Major Tyler
December 11th, 2004, 11:05 AM
Oh, and did anyone think Ford was a little too impatient with Beckett? I was starting to agree with Beckett that Ford was really bossy when he was incommand but then again Ford must of been a little mad that both Tayla and Beckett shot down his discion to return to the city so many time in 'The Storm.'I agree that Ford was probably more assertive in his command because they felt so comfortable overruling him in the Jumper.

I don't think it was because Ford was "mad," it was because Ford wanted to make sure his orders were followed. Beckett knows nothing about fighting, and Teyla isn't used to urban warfare with ranged weapons. The lieutentant needed to make sure they did what he said, or someone might get hurt.

GatetheWay
December 11th, 2004, 11:41 AM
Makes sense.

Erik Pasternak
December 12th, 2004, 05:19 PM
Question: When Atlantis got it's final grounding station disconnected and the sheild became powered up by lightning, electrifying the halls and leaving only the command tower safe, why didn't all their equipment and stuff they left in the city get fried?Maybe that's what they were fixing in "Hot Zone."

GatetheWay
December 13th, 2004, 11:15 AM
Maybe that's what they were fixing in "Hot Zone."
What do you mean?

Edit: *Warning Spoilers* from 'Hot Zone'
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Weren't they only fixing structural damage from flooding because of the hurricane? Their own earth equipment seemed fine.

joanne1138
December 13th, 2004, 12:27 PM
Was wandering round a russian name meaning place type thing (trying to find possible names for Zelenka) and I came across this:

KOLENKA/KOLYA: of the conquering people

Just thought I'd share this. :)

alz0rz
December 15th, 2004, 10:45 PM
im american and i just watched it (you know how :)).. this is nothing short of.. amazing.. in EVERY way :D

alz0rz
December 15th, 2004, 10:52 PM
and my own screencap.. LOL

http://essentrixpc.net/sg/mckaylol.JPG

reppin the americans ;)

Major Tyler
December 16th, 2004, 01:53 AM
Was wandering round a russian name meaning place type thing (trying to find possible names for Zelenka) and I came across this:

KOLENKA/KOLYA: of the conquering people

Just thought I'd share this. :)That's really cool...thanks for sharing. TPTB really do their homework on these things.

Anubis
December 21st, 2004, 02:07 PM
Great conclusion from The Storm. :) Really good.

Sheppard really has some skill, I do hope we get to see a lot more of this in the future, it would be really, really cool. :)

I'm guessing we'll be seeing the Genii again. ;) They're become quite a big enemy, and all they want is a little bit of C4. Don't blame the Atlantians (;)) for not giving them it though.

Finally got to see some development of Ford, he's good in the field too. But we still need to work on him a lot.

Teyla's sort of 'showdown' you might say with that girl (can't remember the name) was good also, I though Teyla would just have got her and killed her, but I understand why she didn't. :) *pats on head*

Gotta laugh at McKay though, his little noticeboard near the generator, "Really, Really DANGEROUS - Don't Touch, McKay" :D Just had me laughing away. :)


Great conclusion to the first part. Prometheus Unbound and The Eye worked out a great evening. :)

Thor's Gunner
December 21st, 2004, 02:09 PM
Great episode, just saw it one sky one, Mckay and Beckett were their normal comical selves in their own way and we saw a bit of humour from Ford as well. I was gald to see Sheppard shooting the hell out of the Genii, and finally in a TV programme someone takes a shot at the guy holding the hostage. Now im wandering whether the Genii girl will stay with the SGA members. But i thought it was a great episode, and nice pic alz0rz

astronomicalchick
December 21st, 2004, 02:12 PM
Fantastic episode.. what I liked in a nutshell..

For a change, Ford gets a personality, great banter between he and Carson.
McKay, McKay, McKay.. lovely scenes between he and Weir. And Rodney's a hero!
The scene with the 'gate forcefield, very powerful.
Sheppard on the rampage.
Magic CGI effects.
Excellent dramatic tension, in the lead up to the shield generator going up.

Thor's Gunner
December 21st, 2004, 02:24 PM
Fantastic episode.. what I liked in a nutshell..

For a change, Ford gets a personality, great banter between he and Carson.
McKay, McKay, McKay.. lovely scenes between he and Weir. And Rodney's a hero!
The scene with the 'gate forcefield, very powerful.
Sheppard on the rampage.
Magic CGI effects.
Excellent dramatic tension, in the lead up to the shield generator going up.
Exaclty what i meant, summed it up perfectly, i was very pleased about that forcefield bit and Sheppards rampage. Brilliant episode, one of the best so far i think, we had an insight into a few of the characters personalities.

lucylou
December 21st, 2004, 02:31 PM
I loved this episode. The Storm was excellent but this was an amazing conclusion.

I adored all of the scenes with McKay and Weir together. I think that they were so well acted and I just loved their interaction. You can see how McKay has changed since his arrival on Atlantis when he is with Weir in this episode. It was so cool to see him being the hero. When he stepped in front of Weir to prevent Kolya from shooting her it was such a testament to how much he had changed and how he had his arm around her when he was outside was just so sweet. McKay is one of the most sarky, arrogant and yet likeable characters on television and it was great to see a more tender side to his character.

Sheppard rocked. I loved him in this episode and I loved all the games he was playing with Kolyas men. Angry Sheppard is deffinately compelling to watch.

Loved the banter between Beckett and Ford too. It was nice to see Ford actually do something and say more than a few lines in this episode. I wish they'd use him more. Beckett is just so funny. Between him, McKay and Sheppard we get a real comedy element to the show and I loved all of his scenes.

And I really can't think of anything else to say right now.

Lucy xxx

Ancients Rising
December 21st, 2004, 02:32 PM
FINALLY

A RISING BEATER!....well not quite but close IMO :)

Sheppard is the man, and finally, finally after such a long time I see the potential for a possible Shep/Weir ship!

McKay was great, Ford was great, Teyla was great, Beckett was great, Weir was great and the Genii were as asinine as ever. Although one thing that bugged the hell out of me was how the Genii managed to figure out the control systems for Atlantis so easily.

Teyla knife-fu with Sora.....could watch that all day...ahem...yes it was excellent.

The CGI for this ep was also top-class. The shield activating, awesome scene.

Really loved this ep, on a par with Rising

Anubis
December 21st, 2004, 02:35 PM
Really loved this ep, on a par with Rising



Indeed it is, if not slightly better .. but by a little. ;) It's hard to beat Rising, but hey it did have a $5 million budget. :) And I too agree with your Sheppard/Weir ship comments, it could well be possible now.

Thor's Gunner
December 21st, 2004, 02:42 PM
I can also see the Shep/Weir ship now, he got really angry when Koyla said he had shot her. It was as good if bnot better than rising, a very debatable one, all i know is that Risin g and this ep have made me compelled to get the boxset as soon as it comes out however many months gthat is away i dont know...

Ancients Rising
December 21st, 2004, 02:46 PM
all i know is that Risin g and this ep have made me compelled to get the boxset as soon as it comes out however many months gthat is away i dont know...

Yep same here! Me want that boxset so bad.

I'm glad Sky+'ed The Eye and The Storm, gonna watch them when I get the time before the January 4th 2005 goodness of The Defiant One :D

Anubis
December 21st, 2004, 02:55 PM
I'm glad Sky+'ed The Eye and The Storm, gonna watch them when I get the time before the January 4th 2005 goodness of The Defiant One :D



I recorded The Eye so I'll watch it again probably tomorrow or whenever I feel like watching it again. ;) But I didn't record The Storm, but I didn watch it earlier today from a previous recording so I got all geared up for The Eye. :D

Next year on January 4 .. on comes The Defiant One. :)

Terok
December 22nd, 2004, 03:31 AM
Fantastic episode, loved it.

Sheppard didn't seem to have any problem killing the Genii. I thought this might be driven by the fact that he thought Weir had been killed, so he wasn't going to hold back, but even when he learned she was still alive he told Ford to shoot to kill. Speaking of the Genii, they're being set up to become a really big enemy, and now Kolya has a vengeance of his own against Sheppard, I heard right that his son died when Sheppard put the gate shield up didn't I?

McKay was great, as usual, keeping Weir alive by continually lying to Kolya and then stepped in front of Weir as she was about to be shot. I loved the sign by the power generator too and his line about being an arrogant man who thinks all his plans will work lol

Good to see Ford and Teyla getting to play a part in taking back Atlantis. Loved Ford's line about Sheppard "He'll be the dot killing all the other dots". The Teyla/Sora fight was good, seemed like Teyla was holding back.

CultTVGirl
December 22nd, 2004, 08:49 AM
I loved this episode. In fact, I think I might have preferred this one to even "The Storm," which was my favourite episode yet.

Shep notched up a major kill count in this one (even if most of them were splattered against the iris) and I was cheering him on all the way. Shame he didn't go the whole way with the "Die Hard" impression and strip down to his vest though! :rolleyes:

Carson was hilarious - he could talk at me all he wanted and I wouldn't complain. And Sora finally got her come-uppance, though Teyla really could have beaten her up a little more, I think.

And Rodney! Rodney totally saved Weir's life. He's so brave. Oh, and he got all wet, which was nice. :D


I adored all of the scenes with McKay and Weir together.

Yes, me too. I think I'm turning into a bit of a McWeir shipper. Help me, quick! :(

Also, Carson and Teyla so need to get together. It's gonna happen - mark my words....

CultTVGirl
December 22nd, 2004, 08:53 AM
Speaking of the Genii, they're being set up to become a really big enemy, and now Kolya has a vengeance of his own against Sheppard, I heard right that his son died when Sheppard put the gate shield up didn't I?


Yeah, I thought I heard that too. But it wasn't really clear if it was Koyla's son or not. Time to rewatch the episode and check it I think! ;)

In any case though, he looked pretty upset about it. Also, not such an honourable death for a soldier - getting splatted like a bug against the shield. I'll bet Koyla's fuming, so I'm sure we'll see him again (and I hope we do).

Matt G
December 22nd, 2004, 09:32 AM
OK...

1. Some good stuff for Rainbow to get his teeth into! Cool!

2. OK...so the one on one between Kolya and Shep was slightly Die Hard ish but still good.

3. I was surprised that Sora got out alive but then again she and Teyla are supposed to go way back and killing old mates is not an ideal way to play the game of life!

4. The guy who came up with the sheild can have a virtual beer on me!

Nice work Atlantis crew!:)

Elite Anubis Guard
December 22nd, 2004, 10:29 AM
great episode, loved the sign from mckay and the action in it, great seeing shep really pissed off!

Dirty McHarriet
December 22nd, 2004, 10:54 AM
Loved the way McKay stepped in front of Weir and told Kolya he couldn't kill her because she was important, then it suddenly dawned on him that Kolya was pointing the gun at him. And when he sat with his arm around Weir - my hero :)

Elite Anubis Guard
December 22nd, 2004, 11:15 AM
hes gonna be a really interest character. i like him more than carter actually!"

lucylou
December 22nd, 2004, 12:16 PM
hes gonna be a really interest character. i like him more than carter actually!"

Who McKay? I like him more than Carter too.

watcher652
December 22nd, 2004, 11:34 PM
'Incase you haven't noticed im a very ignorant man, i think all my plans are going to work!'- Mckay -The Eye
Uh, this is in your sig, so I feel compelled to point out that this is really wrong. McKay is not ignorant. Far from it. He would be insulted to think that would even cross your mind. McKay has confessed that he knows he's arrogant.

And McKay would probably point out that you spelled his name wrong.

It should be

I don’t know if you noticed or not, but I’m an extremely arrogant man who tends to think all of his plans will work. - McKay - The Eye

Crazedwraith
December 23rd, 2004, 04:21 AM
Nice episode, nice knifefight and nice conclusion.

I wonder if That guys who name I STILL can't remember survived the P-90 bullets since they don't actually have that much stopping power. On the other hand it did hit him in the upper left chest so he's properly a gonner.

Elita
December 23rd, 2004, 12:24 PM
Excellent episode, I have to say my favourite of the season so far

I loved the way they played the suspense here: Kolya's bluff to Sheppard about Weir, the cat and mouse situation (although as to who was the mouse: the Sheppard or the Genii, that's debatable) Sheppard on his violent rampage. Sheppard's got skills - very Die Hard-esque.

And still they managed to get the humour in there! McKay and his 'I'm an extremely arrogant man who thinks all my plans are going to work' he got some great one liners. And of course the Ford-Beckett dialogue.

I loved the scene with Sheppard turning on the gate's forcefield; it came out of the blue and packed a punch.

Loved it! Taped it! ;)

Thor's Gunner
December 23rd, 2004, 01:31 PM
Uh, this is in your sig, so I feel compelled to point out that this is really wrong. McKay is not ignorant. Far from it. He would be insulted to think that would even cross your mind. McKay has confessed that he knows he's arrogant.

And McKay would probably point out that you spelled his name wrong.

It should be

I don’t know if you noticed or not, but I’m an extremely arrogant man who tends to think all of his plans will work. - McKay - The Eye
Yeah sorry, i was tired when i wrote it, although i should have got it right as it was just after the episode, but thanks for reminding me.

Crazedwraith
December 24th, 2004, 04:38 AM
Shep really was a Cold hearted SOB turning on that shield. I mena its one think killing people in a fair fight but to me letting people walk happily into disintergration is murder, He could have just shut the gate down. sure that would have killed a few troops but it wouldn't be mass murder.

ShadowMaat
December 24th, 2004, 05:34 AM
Shep really was a Cold hearted SOB turning on that shield. I mena its one think killing people in a fair fight but to me letting people walk happily into disintergration is murder, He could have just shut the gate down. sure that would have killed a few troops but it wouldn't be mass murder.
Welcome to war. You do what it takes to make sure your side doesn't get decimated.

Dying against the shield is a lot less messy than a field full of broken and mutilated bodies.

meimei
December 24th, 2004, 06:24 AM
Shep really was a Cold hearted SOB turning on that shield. I mena its one think killing people in a fair fight but to me letting people walk happily into disintergration is murder, He could have just shut the gate down. sure that would have killed a few troops but it wouldn't be mass murder.


Welcome to war. You do what it takes to make sure your side doesn't get decimated.

Dying against the shield is a lot less messy than a field full of broken and mutilated bodies.Agreed. And when waging a battle against superior numbers, some things just have to be done. One to fifty something sounds like superior numbers.

Besides, as long as something is in the matter stream, I don't know if he could shut down the gate. The iris would be the only way to stop them.

Thor's Gunner
December 24th, 2004, 07:11 AM
He coudnt shut the gate down and he was trying to save his base, his home and his people.

Easter Lily
December 24th, 2004, 03:11 PM
Shep really was a Cold hearted SOB turning on that shield. I mena its one think killing people in a fair fight but to me letting people walk happily into disintergration is murder, He could have just shut the gate down. sure that would have killed a few troops but it wouldn't be mass murder.

Maybe I'm cold hearted too... but there was nothing fair about this fight in the first place. Entering someone's territory by stealth specifically because there is only a skeleton crew... that is really fair... I'm sure :p
Kolya really has only himself to blame for this whole debacle. His orders were to retrieve and then leave but *someone* then decided that he could take over the entire complex. It's ironic really that he accused Weir of being arrogant in the previous episode but he was the arrogant one here. He is the classic example of someone who underestimates his opponent.

A great episode all round... my favourite too.

Ugly Pig
December 25th, 2004, 08:55 AM
Shep really was a Cold hearted SOB turning on that shield. I mena its one think killing people in a fair fight but to me letting people walk happily into disintergration is murder, He could have just shut the gate down.
No he couldn't. They would have just re-opened the gate from the other side and the remaining Genii would still come through. It was them - all of them - or him.

aAnubiSs
December 25th, 2004, 08:59 AM
*Cough* killing people during an hostile invasion is murder? Ok then I guess the US have alot of murderers in Iraq now that're gonna get on death row when they get back.

Turning on the shield is the least painful way one can die on, since you never reintergrate you never feel any pain.

Major Tyler
December 26th, 2004, 06:05 PM
Shep really was a Cold hearted SOB turning on that shield. I mena its one think killing people in a fair fight but to me letting people walk happily into disintergration is murder, He could have just shut the gate down. sure that would have killed a few troops but it wouldn't be mass murder.Turning on the shield was the only choice Sheppard had. Deactivating the Stargate would have only slowed them down for a few minutes. After the troops came through, Sheppard locked down the Stargate so they couldn't dial out and tell the rest of the Genii to send more troops. As far as the homeworld was concerned, all 60 troops made it safe and sound.

Whistler
January 1st, 2005, 09:40 AM
What I don't understand is why didn't the Gen'ii stop sending troops, as the Girl clearly sends back a radio message for them to stop, this I suppose raises the question does the shield block radio waves?

The GDO's work tho, so I dunno why they didn't get the message... :S

Major Tyler
January 1st, 2005, 10:18 AM
What I don't understand is why didn't the Gen'ii stop sending troops, as the Girl clearly sends back a radio message for them to stop, this I suppose raises the question does the shield block radio waves?

The GDO's work tho, so I dunno why they didn't get the message... :SThe shield doesn't block radio waves because in "Suspicion" Weir was talking with Teyla with the shield up. Sheppard probably activated an RF dampener/jammer to prevent the Genii from radioing that the shield was up. If they did, the Genii would just wait until the gate was secured before sending the troops.

TheBlueDragon
January 1st, 2005, 06:17 PM
yeah i enjoyed the eye as well

Ugly Pig
January 5th, 2005, 01:23 PM
Hmmm... Anyone else thinking that SciFi might get cold feet about airing this episode right now, what with the tsunami and the giant wave and everything in it?

joanne1138
January 5th, 2005, 01:32 PM
Wow, just realised that. That timing sucks. I thought they aired The Storm at the same time hurricane Ivan was out and about, though. If I'm right about that maybe someone in the schedualing is psychic. Or maybe one of the writers... This is weird.

Major Fischer
January 5th, 2005, 05:31 PM
Hmmm... Anyone else thinking that SciFi might get cold feet about airing this episode right now, what with the tsunami and the giant wave and everything in it?

I doubt it. I got the Storm while Hurricane Ivan was right me, quite literally.

Blue Banrigh
January 13th, 2005, 08:16 PM
I doubt it. I got the Storm while Hurricane Ivan was right me, quite literally.

Somehow I don't think so either. While it was a major tragedy (and correct me if I'm wrong), it was one that affected only a few Americans.

Major Fischer
January 21st, 2005, 06:37 PM
So yeah, I haven't read most of the earlier posts, so sue me ;)


Fischer's Pointless Ramblings about the Eye

Wow.

Given how much I hated SG1's episode tonight, I'm very glad that I knew I'd LOVE this one. Even horribly spoiled, it was tense and interesting and I was routing for the good guys to take out the bad guys. Always a good sign that occasionally doens't work when I feel like the good guys don't deserve to win.

Sheppard as the one man army was very cool, though I really did have to wonder how a pilot was so good at small unit and guarrilla tactics. Survival and evation school I guess. Either way, very cool.

JF, TH, and DH did amazing work, and I loved all of them. The three of them must have been wiped out by the time they got home from work after filming this stuff. I'm an unabashed Sheppard/Weir shipper, and this is the one with great Sheppard Weir angst. Can't go wrong with angst.

Bobthespirit
January 21st, 2005, 07:06 PM
Best Atlantis episode yet, I think by far.

This is the first time I've respected Sheppard's intelligence, as well as the first time Ford has been given enough lines to actually exhibit his personality.

greytop
January 21st, 2005, 07:06 PM
Way to go, Shepard! I also enjoyed the fight that Teyla had with Sora. Too bad, Carson had got a slight concousion. And Rodney took up with Weir saying they need her code when they probably didn't them.

ShadowMaat
January 21st, 2005, 07:08 PM
Probably didn't need them? She was making it up as she went along! ;) Did you see the looks she threw Rodney when he said "And?" and "And the second sequence?" Total WTF look. :D

GREAT ep though. And STUNNING vizFX. Not just the storm itself, but the lightning in the halls. LOVED that.

And ya know, I keep forgetting that Atlantis is completely CGI. I mean, I know some times, but other times I forget....

Merlin7
January 21st, 2005, 07:11 PM
So yeah, I haven't read most of the earlier posts, so sue me ;)


Fischer's Pointless Ramblings about the Eye

Wow.

Given how much I hated SG1's episode tonight, I'm very glad that I knew I'd LOVE this one. Even horribly spoiled, it was tense and interesting and I was routing for the good guys to take out the bad guys. Always a good sign that occasionally doens't work when I feel like the good guys don't deserve to win.

Sheppard as the one man army was very cool, though I really did have to wonder how a pilot was so good at small unit and guarrilla tactics. Survival and evation school I guess. Either way, very cool.

JF, TH, and DH did amazing work, and I loved all of them. The three of them must have been wiped out by the time they got home from work after filming this stuff. I'm an unabashed Sheppard/Weir shipper, and this is the one with great Sheppard Weir angst. Can't go wrong with angst.


The Sheppard/Weir stuff was fabulous. He was really REALLY worried about her. Loved all their interactions, even when it was just his reaction to thinking her dead, then reacting to her being alive.

I've always thought Shep was black ops. An airforce major...a fly boy...wouldn't know the ground/tactical stuff without being specially trained. So..Shep is so trained. LOL

And he's very adaptable. Loved the ep.

ShadowMaat
January 21st, 2005, 07:11 PM
I saw more Weir/McKay than Weir/Shep. But that's me. :P

Major Fischer
January 21st, 2005, 07:13 PM
I saw more Weir/McKay than Weir/Shep. But that's me. :P

I saw more McKay/Beckett stuff, so it's all good ;)

greytop
January 21st, 2005, 07:13 PM
I thought it was about even steven. And a person would care for others that they respect and live near each other.

alz0rz
January 21st, 2005, 07:37 PM
The Gift Spoiler (Ship related)
Dr. Mckay is seeing the Atlantis resident psychologist :) - She's pretty hot too ;)

ShadowMaat
January 21st, 2005, 07:42 PM
You believed him?! LOL! I could be wrong, but I assumed he was BS'ing the whole thing to excuse why he was really there. ;)

But that's best left to The Gift discussion thread. :P

Daniel's_twin
January 21st, 2005, 07:44 PM
I enjoyed this episode. A few things were a surprise, like the knife-fight (I expected something between Teyla nd the girl, but not quite like that. And I kinda half-expected her to get fried after Teyla got out) while other things were kinda run-of-the-mill. I enjoyed SG-1's Gemini better, but watching this was also definitely worth the wait. The effects were amazing, and the action was pulse-pounding. I'm also glad that they developed Ford's character at least a little bit. :cool:

ShadowMaat
January 21st, 2005, 07:52 PM
The catfight was stupid. It's the kind of thing male writers would come up with to fill time and amuse themselves. *rolls eyes* Other than that, though, it was a pretty great ep. Great tension, great drama, wonderful character development (yay McKay and Ford!) and again, terrific VFX. :) Not many complaints about this one. Although I still wanna know what Ford went back to grab in the weapons locker. An extra clip? But it never gets used. Or, at least, it has not plot significance. The fact that the camera lingers long enough to show him doing it raised false expectations. Ditto leaving the stunner behind. If you're gonna do stuff like that, it should have some meaning beyond wasting a few seconds of screentime. Like, Sora grabs the stunner and shoots Teyla and ties her up so she can rail and whine at her leisure. ;) Dunno. They were just small things...

keshou
January 21st, 2005, 08:29 PM
Great start to the second half of the season for Atlantis. Good story (the homage to Die Hard worked for me), interesting villain, excellent special effects.

All the characters were used well - even Ford! I came away more impressed with Shep as black-ops guy than I ever have with Shep as cocky flyboy.

McKay is the character that makes the show for me, though. He goes from being brave to arrogant to snarky to wildly trying to prevaricate to Kolya. What a great episode for him. I'm just more impressed with David Hewlett everytime I see him. I really loved McKay's interaction with Weir and how they understood each other's signals throughout the episode. I don't see it as shippy but I do see it as teammates forming a strong bond.

Actually everyone felt like a team in this one - even though they were often separated. Teyla, Beckett and Ford ended up being an interesting combination and I didn't even mind the cat fight between Teyla and Sora. It was rather predictable but better than the cat fight on next week's SG-1 episode. ;)

I was rather spoiled on some aspects of the episode but it was a lot of fun to see it all play out. Didn't know about the tsunami, though. I remember a lot of comments when "The Storm" aired because there were so many hurricanes hitting Florida at the time. Now we have the tsunami in "The Eye", again very eerie in light of world events.

ShadowMaat
January 21st, 2005, 08:49 PM
Siege If The Siege heralds an actual alien invasion, I shall be very upset. Especially if the invasion prevents me from seeing the ep. :P

IMForeman
January 21st, 2005, 08:55 PM
Siege If The Siege heralds an actual alien invasion, I shall be very upset. Especially if the invasion prevents me from seeing the ep. :P

I don't know... an alien invasion could be fun. Might break up the monotony a bit, y'know. ;)

ShadowMaat
January 21st, 2005, 08:56 PM
I don't know... an alien invasion could be fun. Might break up the monotony a bit, y'know. ;)
Not if it means missing my Wodney, dammit! :P

He was fantastic tonight. David Hewlett is so wonderfully versatile and able to switch moods in a heartbeat while keeping it all believeable.

UnderT
January 21st, 2005, 09:06 PM
I really liked this Episode. SG-1 needs to get back to action. The graphics were very good, and Sheppard was awesome. I loved the whole gate sheild thing when the Genni were coming through. Splat. Splat. Splat. That was awesome!! :D

Why didn't he go to the grounding station when Kolya was alone with Weir and McKay?

DANIquinn
January 21st, 2005, 09:14 PM
I loved the whole gate sheild thing when the Genni were coming through. Splat. Splat. Splat. That was awesome!! :D
I miss the sound of the enemy being smashed against the iris in SG-1. Glad to know I hear it once again in Atlantis :p .

Episode was awsome, btw. Loved Rodney :D , especially the "I'm an extremely arrogant man who thinks all his plans will work" line :D .

kadosho
January 21st, 2005, 10:32 PM
An excellent start for the second half of the season.
Lots of development, plus changes, but good ones.
There's a great balance goin on here, and its gonna get better.
:cool:

LoneStar1836
January 21st, 2005, 10:54 PM
Who doesn’t like a good catfight with knives? ;) Though I prefer the sticks. :P Awesome episode! I was not disappointed.

I pretty much stayed spoiler free though somewhere along the way I found out Kolya would escape. And I’m glad for that because I much rather enjoy the Genii as the enemy rather than the Wraith. Just as long as I don’t have to sit through anymore of Kolya and his stick fighting in a karate outfit scenes as in The Storm, then I’m cool with him. Robert Davi always makes a good bad guy.

The SFX were great. They really went all out with this episode. The shots of the city still always amaze me.

Everyone was good in this one and had something to contribute rather than being a sidepiece. JF was great even though he had very little dialogue and of course DH. Well, what more can you say about him? :D And yay for Weir. Her character improves for me once again as the season progresses. Besides the obligatory catfight, Teyla actually had some dialogue that was helpful and contributed to the story. Even poor neglected Ford had something worthwhile to say and do. And loved Beckett as always. Don’t really have anything to be nitpicky/disappointed about with this episode like I do with tonight’s SG-1’s “Gemini”.

Yay! Fridays are back. :) Atlantis and BSG are great, and I’m still looking forward to SG-1 but just not quite with the same anticipation as those two.

impulsivelad
January 21st, 2005, 10:56 PM
This episode was pretty good. I enjoyed it a lot. I do find Sora and her constant whining really annoying! So glad Teyla put her down. (Although, the fight scene was kinda weak considering I'm used to Angel/Buffy fights... the sound FX for the punches were so soft I couldn't even feel the hits, that's something you take for granted until you see something like this. Other than that, everything was ace. Sheppard is great.

I also love that McKay and Becket are the Scottie and McCoy of this show (only reversed)... very nice touch.

Shivan
January 21st, 2005, 11:46 PM
Atlantis and BSG are great

Alright, Atlantis was great. Far beyond great.

But BSG was horrible.

I was straining my eyes because I was so bored. I couldn't get INTO the show at all. I tried letting myself get sucked in but it never happened. I don't know why but that does tell me that I really don't care.

And the camera was shaky... SHAKY....

But enough of BSG- this is a Stargate board!

Atlantis was fantastic, and I was freaking glued from start to finish, and that's how that episode needed to be.

But the thing where Sheppard closed the "Iris" or shield was amazing. And it was even somewhat humorous to me.

LoneStar1836
January 22nd, 2005, 01:13 AM
Alright, Atlantis was great. Far beyond great.
Yeah, it was far beyond great, but I didn't feel like thinking of a better adjective. :D

So how about these: excellent, dynamite, exceptional, fantastic, first-rate, marvelous, masterly, terrific, wonderful, transcendent. Though maybe the last one is a bit too much. :P;)

Definitely had me hooked from start to finish as well.


But BSG was horrible.
:P (See above descriptors for the series as a whole so far)

keshou
January 22nd, 2005, 09:33 AM
So how about these: excellent, dynamite, exceptional, fantastic, first-rate, marvelous, masterly, terrific, wonderful, transcendent. Though maybe the last one is a bit too much. :P;)
*g* Yeah, I think transcendent may be pushing it, but I'll go with your other adjectives.

Just a really fun show to watch. No looking at the clock in this one (like I did with Gemini).

I've always loved the city itself. The city looks amazing. I'd buy a condo there in a minute. :p

The characters (except for McKay and on occasion, Shep), haven't kept up. But now, FINALLY, in "The Eye" I felt like everyone really pulled together as a team. I can see the cast becoming more comfortable in their roles and with each other. All of them still need development but I'm starting to become attached to more of them than just McKay. That's a distinct improvement.

Very excited now about the rest of the season. :D .

Hex.FTB.enabled
January 22nd, 2005, 09:48 AM
Just felt the need to repeat how cool the ep was. I loved that everyone on the team was really complementing each other, and all the characters were at the top of their game. Ford finally had enough to do, Beckett was funny as always, Teyla had the cool chick fight, Sheppard and Weir both played the deperate-leader thing great, and Mckay really grew in the bravery dept. while still getting some of the best lines ("Of course I said it would work! I'm a very arrogant man who generally thinks all my plans will work!) And the SFX were better than quite a lot of movies I've seen lately.

I'm so glad Fridays are back!

NightGloom
January 22nd, 2005, 09:51 AM
I was straining my eyes because I was so bored. I couldn't get INTO the show at all. I tried letting myself get sucked in but it never happened. I don't know why but that does tell me that I really don't care.

And the camera was shaky... SHAKY....



Ah, I love the shaky camera work, it makes it seem like a not boring documentary. Even though I did fall asleep during last night's episode, but that was due to complete exhaustian, not the boring-ness of it. Although I do think that some of the scripts and such can use some work.


I did manage to stay awake during the Atlantis ep and it was amazing! Oh man, coming from the horrible CGI polar bear on Lost to this was just great! Even though I knew what was going to happen thanks to spoilers and everything, I still enjoyed the episode. Yay! Sheppard is Spiderman!

jckfan55
January 22nd, 2005, 10:08 AM
I wish there had been more sense of jeopardy and that they had played out the Sheppard thinks Weir is dead thing longer. Good fight scene with Teyla.

Vapor
January 22nd, 2005, 10:27 AM
Well, this one was a doozy. To be honest, "The Storm" really wasn't a favorite episode of mine. I enjoyed all the stuff having to do with McKay and Zelenka, and discovering the storm, and planning to save the city- all that was great. I just wanted to gag every time they cut back to the Genii scheming to attack or whatever. I thought the training session was cheese and I hated everything having to do with those pathetically-designed aliens, whom I pray will never show up again. So, suffice it to say, I had mixed expectations going into "The Eye." Luckily, my finger-crossing paid off.

While I still don't think Kolya was a particularly interesting villain, I did start to feel like I was really there with him when things started to really heat up between him and Sheppard, making me wonder what he was gonna do next, or how he'd react to Sheppard's next move. Loved the part when Kolya bluffed about Weir being killed, and Sheppard's reaction was "I am going to kill you." Sheppard/Weir shippers can rejoice.

I knew "The Eye" referred to the eye of the storm, but I didn't really have a clue what that meant until the others got into the eye and used it to fly back to Atlantis. Dr. Beckett and Ford's scenes were cute. I felt bad for Beckett having to put up with Ford telling him to shut up. Ha! The scenes play interestingly to me, since I know the two characters' roles will eventually be sort of reversed (from recurring character to series regular, and vice-versa).

Anyway, the fight between Teyla and... that Genii chick was pretty cool. To be more specific, the fact that they decided to do it, and the dialogue were good. I still can't stand the way they shoot hand-to-hand action on this show. Teyla's got some guns on her, doesn't she? And now, apparently, Atlantis has another prisoner.

More action-hero stuff for Sheppard to do this week. Best scene- Kolya: "You wouldn't risk shooting Dr. Weir." Sheppard: "I'm not aiming at Dr. Weir." BLAM!... or something like that. :) Sweet.

So, I for one, am glad this two-parter is finally over. I give "The Eye" an A-. I can now look forward to seeing what happens in the next ep. Kinda looks like they get stranded or something on a planet with a lost Wraith. Coolsville.

Hyperspace
January 22nd, 2005, 11:41 AM
^^^
There's 'another prisoner on Atlantis' but currently the brig contains only that Genii girl right? The previous prisoner, 'Steve' the Wraith, is no longer...?

Platschu
January 22nd, 2005, 11:48 AM
^^^
There's 'another prisoner on Atlantis' but currently the brig contains only that Genii girl right? The previous prisoner, 'Steve' the Wraith, is no longer...?
Steve died becauses he tried to feed a protected man in "Poisoning the Wheel."

The closing of the Iris was such a surprise! Shep killed 55 men! :eek: