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DrJenniferDex
August 1st, 2008, 05:10 PM
I think he means TH/EW... but I could be wrong.

I'm sorry, Falcon, but it's taking me forever to figure out who EW is. :( I'm kind of scattered today.

Falcon Horus
August 1st, 2008, 05:28 PM
I'm sorry, Falcon, but it's taking me forever to figure out who EW is. :( I'm kind of scattered today.

*giggles* You're not the only one being all over the place...

EW = Elizabeth Weir

Skydiver
August 1st, 2008, 05:35 PM
First

Torri/Weir really isn't on topic here, not for an indepth discussion.

Second

NONE of you were there, thus NONE of you know what really happened, so let's put an end to the rumor mongering please

DrJenniferDex
August 1st, 2008, 05:44 PM
Thanks, Falcon! Honestly, I don't know where my head's at today.

Reiko
August 1st, 2008, 05:53 PM
» Thanks, Sky. :)

Falcon Horus
August 2nd, 2008, 03:16 AM
Thanks, Falcon! Honestly, I don't know where my head's at today.

You're welcome. :)

Falcon Horus
August 3rd, 2008, 06:13 AM
Continuity error detected... (I know, random)

When Woolsey is talking to Beckett in the hallways, there's a scientist coming up behind him working on a tablet (white T-shirt) and another one passing the two man (blue T-shirt). At one point there's a close-up of Woolsey and you see the man with the tablet passing, the camera briefly jumps back to Beckett, after which it goes back to Woolsey in a wider angle. The tablet-man should have passed him by now, as should the blue T-shirt, but instead they're back in their begin position walking up to each other. It's as if they were rewind.

Again random, I know... :p

jenks
August 13th, 2008, 09:51 AM
<mod snip...you don't know, cause you weren't there> Giving her the boot was the best decision the writers ever made.

Err Skydiver, that was a reference to what she's said in interviews.

nx01a
August 17th, 2008, 08:20 AM
An enjoyable episode, continuing nicely from the opener.

-I guess we know where hive ships and cruisers come from now. It reminds me of how the Wraith guards are made. But what about darts? Do hive ships grow them like Moya makes her transports?
-The tendrils reminded me of SG-1 'Foothold', and the scene with Ronon walking down the overgrown corridor reminded me of a fair's haunted house.
-Nice to hear sensible mention of Lorne and Sam.
-I was getting into a major anti-Keller huff when she woke up with the slime on her hand [NOT drool!] and just washed it off and went along. I thought that was spectacularly stupid whether or not she planned to scan herself, and was ready to blank her there and then, but the whole 'mind control' element of the 2nd consciousness took away her guilt there.
-Is is really hard to look at your superior and say, "I'm taking a jumper to crash into the building!"? 5 seconds, John. 5. Woolsey really has to get a handle on these people. They're running around doing what they want to, and what might not be the best thing. I realize John's the 'hero' and all, but he can't be right all the time.
-Shep got gutted.:D
-Woolsey is there to manage the place, not be everyone's friend. Glad to see a more realistic representation of leadership and the bosses we have and tolerate, though I hope this isn't how conflict will go in this season... Woolsey reluctantly throwing rules out and John et al saving the day. That's not conflict for anyone but Woolsey. I trust this incident will make him even more stringent on the rules he holds dear.
-Rodney's comment on the 'b team' taking over. Geez, Rodney. :P Love the ego! I'm hoping for a b team episode, with Lorne and Zelenka and the woman with the gun from last episode.:P
-The Daedalus got back to Earth and back to Atlantis in a month?
-Since last episode, we've seen the city pretty darn bright. Are there really people in every section that's lighten? I realize we've got ZPM power, but it seems kinda wasteful. ZPMs are a non-renewable resource for now.
-Nice to see Carson and his new hair. Is he looking a bit older to anyone else?
-In terms of isolation, the whole suspended shield bubble is really the best way to go. And why wasn't stasis an option for Keller? The bed frame was too big for the wall slot? :P The minute people get sick, if there's space, stasis!
-If the hive personality is still in Keller and controlling her in subtle ways towards some big Michael-induced finale this season, I will applaud.

A nice episode all around.

bcfc
August 26th, 2008, 01:29 PM
Best line in the episode;

Mckay; 'you've got the new guy taking advice from the B Team' :D

Matt G
August 28th, 2008, 01:50 PM
1. Liked the Teyla baby talk.

2. It was obvious early on that the hive-mind(for want of a better term) was affecting Keller early on.

3. Liked Carson back in business.

4. "Welcome to the Pegasus Galaxy". There's hope for Woolsey yet!

Solid stuff.

nx01a
August 31st, 2008, 09:43 AM
A bit late, but I had a thought... Hive ships = Shadow vessels! Grown organic technology, living processor core, big and deadly. SGA meet B5!

RononXSpecialist
November 6th, 2008, 03:53 AM
Ahaha i loled at woolsy xD got stuck on the other side of the City and hes just like WTF?, But great episode and

I liked how they finally told us how Hive Ships are born :D

Col.Foley
November 20th, 2008, 09:08 PM
Keller is Sexy! :D

major davis
April 13th, 2009, 11:28 AM
Ahaha i loled at woolsy xD got stuck on the other side of the City and hes just like WTF?, But great episode and

I liked how they finally told us how Hive Ships are born :D

:indeed:

Replicator Todd
November 2nd, 2009, 09:15 PM
Just rewatched! Enter. Woolsey! Its a nice change to have a strict leader that causes some conflict between the characters instead of the constant rule breaking leaders. The camera-work seemed to have went back to normal compared to the last episode. Its good to see Beckett again of course! Finally we learn more about Hive ships and how they are created. Not the best episode, but its ok.

Sp!der
December 27th, 2009, 03:43 AM
We know now, how the hive ships are created. beckett is back. first keller centric episode of the season. nah, dont like her character. woolsey is awesome... loved him from the beginning. all in all so and so episode...

jelgate
December 27th, 2009, 05:34 AM
We know now, how the hive ships are created. beckett is back. first keller centric episode of the season. nah, dont like her character. woolsey is awesome... loved him from the beginning. all in all so and so episode...

Keller centered?

Yeah right. She wasn't in the episode. Keller was a plot device in this episode. Not to mention a reason to bring Beckett into the medical role.

Supreme Commander Sil
March 7th, 2010, 03:14 PM
:lol: Just got a funny quote in this episode :D!
You don't notice the first time through because you don't know what is happening :P!
Woolsey: You're certain Michael's behind this?
:beckett: Well, it's not a case of the hives, it it?
:lol: The hives :P!

ktebid
March 8th, 2010, 01:20 AM
An enjoyable episode. Fascinating to see Woolsey interact with the team and how quickly his different style of leadership becomes apparent. Loved Sheppard in this ep, good to see Carson, interesting idea on houw Hive ships are "built".

Martina Magnus
July 15th, 2010, 09:55 PM
:lol: Just got a funny quote in this episode :D!
You don't notice the first time through because you don't know what is happening :P!
Woolsey: You're certain Michael's behind this?
:beckett: Well, it's not a case of the hives, it it?
:lol: The hives :P!

:lol:

mrscopterdoc
September 13th, 2010, 08:28 PM
Ahaha i loled at woolsy xD got stuck on the other side of the City and hes just like WTF?, But great episode and

I liked how they finally told us how Hive Ships are born :D

That was a funny moment with Woolsey :D

maneth
February 25th, 2011, 09:36 AM
Loved this one! Do all hive ships have an intelligent being as their core?

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
October 2nd, 2012, 03:10 PM
Average episode

That was one hell of a speech from Woolsey, wait there was no speech.

I'm amazed how good the visual effects are.

Tomorrow, the Iron Chef guy is back.

Krisz
October 2nd, 2012, 06:56 PM
Another episode of SGA I'd never seen before.

Reminded me more of old school Dr Who where people ended up being slowly overwhelmed by insidious alien species like this! The special effects were good, but draping those rubbery things everywhere still reminded me of 60/70's Dr Who!

Woolsey fitted in pretty well I thought. Whilst being very business like, and by the book he has a certain likeability to him. It was good to see that he was quick to see when a less by the book approach was the only way to go. He seems to fit in as the commander more than Sam did, a lot more involved to me straight away than Sam ever was, and he kept his character the same as it was in SG-1!!!! He seemed to be doing as much 'commanding' on his first appearance as Sam did over the whole of season four I felt!

Average plot, but it was a good introduction for the new commander of Atlantis.

Lieutenant Sparrow
October 3rd, 2012, 01:11 AM
Yeah average ep.

Keller has got to be one of the most boring characters. I don't think the actor helps with that. So dull.

Good to have Beckett back yet again.

Interesting to learn how hive ships are made.

Arica15
October 3rd, 2012, 10:36 AM
Oh I don't know for most of the episode Keller was lying still and silent; her best contribution yet of the episodes she has been in.

Loved seeing Beckett again and once again reminded how much better this show was back when he was a regular, though this episode was a tad dull and never really seemed to get going. Woolsey was good but not outstanding (ever since I heard about Nancy from Outcast being considered as an alternative replacement for Carter I've been wishing that they'd gone with that instead).

Yeah, good but not great.

Matt G
October 4th, 2012, 03:22 AM
Midweek, another ep of Atlantis, apparantly watched on my 26th birthday or near enough...

1. Oh boy was Woolsey flat to start with.

2. Credit where credit's due, getting Carson out was a gamble on Woolsey's part that worked.

3. Not sure what Woolsey was expecting from the former hybrids at this point.

4. And the "welcome to the Pegasus galaxy" line! :)

jelgate
October 13th, 2012, 05:50 PM
One thing I remember is a poster makig a melodramtic satire post in this thread about the expedition missing Weir and Beckett so much because the writers made one scene about Carter being a good leader. Sometimes this place is more entertaining than the episodes itself. I thought it was interesting to see how Hive ship develop. It also makes me wonder do Hive ships always require a human to start the process? And I wonder if crusiers follow the same process. It was an interesting insight into Wraith technology and I wish we could have seen more into this kind of story instead of some of the dren (Farscape term) we got in later episodes this season. In character terms this is really Woosley's episode. Yes Beckett and Teyla led the major assualts but these characters have already established themselves to be qualified. It was to show Woosley in action and the kind of burdens he has in action and how that differs from the comfy chair of the IOA. Speaking of Beckett this episode is what I hated him as a clone. It was like a reset that we glossed over and ignored. It always annoyed me the consquences of him being a clone was never explored

Lythisrose
January 9th, 2013, 04:07 PM
From Joe Mallozzi's Blog (http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2013/01/09/january-9-2013-days-of-stargate-atlantis-past-continues-with-season-5s-the-seed/):

THE SEED (502)

In her first appearance on Stargate, actress Jewel Staite was unrecognizable underneath all that prosthetics and make-up in season 2?s Instinct. She did such a terrific job in the role of Elia, the tortured wraith, that we ended up casting her as a completely different prosthetic-free character, Dr. Jennifer Keller, in the show’s 4th season. But old habits die hard and, when an early episode called for someone to get infected by an alien pathogen, we automatically thought of Jewel for two reason: 1. She’d done such a terrific job the last time and, most importantly, 2. She didn’t complain. And #2 is key since the episode required her to be in at 4:00 a.m. every morning for a three hour body cast session.

Photos:

One of the many great things about the show was the thought, creativity, and hard work that went into even the smallest elements of the production – like, say, these light dimmers. (http://josephmallozzi.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/183.jpg)

The Art Department’s Chris Beach takes one for the team (http://josephmallozzi.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/184.jpg)

On set with actor Paul McGillion and director Will Waring. (http://josephmallozzi.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/185.jpg)

The lovely Jewel Staite. Before. (http://josephmallozzi.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/186.jpg)


Director Will Waring at work (photo @ MGM Television). (http://josephmallozzi.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/1101.jpg)

Hazmat Rodney. I want the action figure! (photo @ MGM Television). (http://josephmallozzi.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/1102.jpg)

This is what happens if you don’t clean up after eating breakfast in bed. (http://josephmallozzi.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/1103.jpg)

Nap time! (http://josephmallozzi.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/3.jpg)

Cluas
February 24th, 2013, 07:25 AM
I liked the idea with the birth of a hive ship. I didn't like the Carson clone, and I actually thought the writers were going to kill Keller. Funny moments with Woolsey.

Baron Of Hell
September 8th, 2013, 06:55 AM
Yeah I thought they were going to kill Keller and replace her with Clone Doctor. I liked the idea of ships being grown and thought the story was setup well. Pretty good introduction of Woolsey as the big man in charge.

mrscopterdoc
August 21st, 2014, 05:26 PM
Oh I don't know for most of the episode Keller was lying still and silent; her best contribution yet of the episodes she has been in.
:lol: so true!!

jelgate
August 21st, 2014, 05:30 PM
:lol: so true!!

more like false

j7n
June 1st, 2015, 09:43 AM
This episode would have been a good opportunity to kill a character, especially if they added more drama to the plot, for example, by making Mister Woolsey or the military order the character killed, and showed her running away. Even though the virus/organism is similar to what they had in the "explosive tumours" episode, which I hated, the Wraith tendrils seemed much more practical and recognizable.

It seemed wrong that the person came out completely unscathed in the end, including perfect face and other aspects of female beauty. There had to be some lasting effect if not death. Also the volume of organic material before it reached walls and the "conduit" was too great. It had to have come from somewhere in the character's body and cause its irreversible transmutation (which would be the reason why they couldn't surgically remove the tendrils).

I'm surprised that Woolsey didn't detain {Carson Beckett} with force, which is what the police/government/military does on TV. The scheduled "dial-out", despite the outbreak of a disease, seemed to lead to that. I thought they would treat the doctor as a test subject, and try to learn why his organs shut down, and how to weaponize the cause of it. There is no other reason why an organism altered by aliens would be knowingly brought back to Earth.

A "Wiki" in the Pegasus galaxy? What's next? The cloud and content delivery network? I think Michael was not the type to write an encyclopedia collaboratively. If he kept notes, he would have done so alone using his own code and system.

Dr Keller is alright. But I think she's not making a believable impression of being a medical doctor. Especially during the dialogue where she said she would play with a man's insides.

losernerdfriend
April 4th, 2016, 08:29 PM
I thought this was a decent episode.

The tendrils were creepy AF.

Also fun first day for Woolsey. I like him. He's grown on me a lot quicker than I thought he would. Especially with how the beginning of the episode was going.

Not many other thoughts. I was watching the episode at work so I kept getting distracted. :/