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    Wormhole radio communications

    Now correct me if I'm wrong, but an incoming wormhole can not send anything back, right? So if this is the case, how would the SGC make radio contact with SG1 off world?
    While they can obviously talk to them while they transmit, SG1 on the planet surely could not do so as no information would pass back through the gate.

    #2
    I've reached the conclusion that teh gates do not in fact use wormholes, at least not in the traditional sense. Because sending radio signals back and forth would be impossible. And next time use the search engine.

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      #3
      Certain kinds of energy can be transmitted both ways; such as radio waves...

      Not too sure how it would work though.

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        #4
        Nothing can be sent back through an incoming wormhole from a stargate because it would just get dematerialized but not transmitted. However that is the gate not the wormhole, wormholes are two way it's just it's highly dangerous and a way around that is to send you through as energy, therefore energy gets through.
        Originally posted by Craig Charles
        "And the 'replicator' has just entered Sir Killalot's corner and Killalot is...urm...wait a minute... Sir Killalot has just been eaten by the 'replicator' and now there's two of them..."

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          #5
          So technically with the sufficient Mcgyvered equipment you can be beamed in an incoming wormhole?
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            #6
            technically, yes.
            Originally posted by Craig Charles
            "And the 'replicator' has just entered Sir Killalot's corner and Killalot is...urm...wait a minute... Sir Killalot has just been eaten by the 'replicator' and now there's two of them..."

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              #7
              It was explained in the show that artifical wormholes can transmit select types of energy both ways; in this case, radio waves. Most (if not all) matter, however, can only pass one way.
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                #8
                On the "Stargate Universe" a wormhole allows waves to travel both ways. I should point out that matter never travels intact, that whatever travels is broken apart and transmitted on a "Matter Stream".

                They always say that the "Matter Stream" only travels one way, but, couldn't it be that the "Matter Stream" is only sent one way because that is how the Gate was designed?

                It could be that it is possible to send a "Matter Stream" both ways but the Gate creator made it so that it is only transmitted one way as part of a security feature, so people and object wont collide.

                Imagine you are about to cross the Event Horizon when BUM, a Puddle Jumper comes out of the Gate and hits you.

                As far as the question of the beaming tech working in concert with the gate, we have seen this done in "The Quest, Part 2", however the transitions from the Obelisk were only done using outgoing connections.

                I don't think the writers of the show ever explained Obelisk's beaming tech well enough to us.
                How does it work?
                Is it like the Rings and the Gate as it uses a "Matter Stream" or is more like a computer transmitting (waves) info about what needs to be constructed on the other side.

                If the Obelisk's Beaming tech works with Waves instead of a "Matter Stream", then yes, they could beam both ways.

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                  #9
                  This also raises the question:

                  Could you beam through an Iris?

                  Asgard beam transporters can work through a ship's hull, an Iris is no different, is it?

                  Atlantis' Shield Iris is a different matter entirely though; working as a shield not as armour. But would the SGC's Iris allow a person, or inanimate object to be beamed through? If so- a race could theoretically beam in an explosive or the like to destroy the facility; or beam in men, avoiding total oblivion on contacting the Iris.

                  Am I mistaken, or did Thor beam through the Iris on one occasion?
                  Last edited by The Prophet; 08 June 2008, 07:04 PM.

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                    #10
                    They got a plot hole generator on the Iris to stop such easy total destruction of the SGC.
                    Originally posted by Craig Charles
                    "And the 'replicator' has just entered Sir Killalot's corner and Killalot is...urm...wait a minute... Sir Killalot has just been eaten by the 'replicator' and now there's two of them..."

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                      #11
                      The iris couldn't be beamed through, mainly as the active gate would cause too much disturbance to get the beaming technology right. Was explained in several episodes. The Tolan used some good technology to get through though.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by mago1978 View Post
                        On the "Stargate Universe" a wormhole allows waves to travel both ways. I should point out that matter never travels intact, that whatever travels is broken apart and transmitted on a "Matter Stream".

                        They always say that the "Matter Stream" only travels one way, but, couldn't it be that the "Matter Stream" is only sent one way because that is how the Gate was designed?

                        It could be that it is possible to send a "Matter Stream" both ways but the Gate creator made it so that it is only transmitted one way as part of a security feature, so people and object wont collide.

                        Imagine you are about to cross the Event Horizon when BUM, a Puddle Jumper comes out of the Gate and hits you.

                        As far as the question of the beaming tech working in concert with the gate, we have seen this done in "The Quest, Part 2", however the transitions from the Obelisk were only done using outgoing connections.

                        I don't think the writers of the show ever explained Obelisk's beaming tech well enough to us.
                        How does it work?
                        Is it like the Rings and the Gate as it uses a "Matter Stream" or is more like a computer transmitting (waves) info about what needs to be constructed on the other side.

                        If the Obelisk's Beaming tech works with Waves instead of a "Matter Stream", then yes, they could beam both ways.
                        I would assume it's more that the obelisk converted SG-1 and Merlin's lab into data and then the data was sent to the other obelisk where it was then reintegrated as matter. I don't think it was violating any of the Stargate principles. And yes, I also believe that the beamed data between obelisks could be transmitted both ways through the wormhole, much like radio devices.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by s09119 View Post
                          It was explained in the show that artifical wormholes can transmit select types of energy both ways; in this case, radio waves. Most (if not all) matter, however, can only pass one way.
                          When?

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                            #14
                            Having an Obelisk in each of the planets is key.
                            You have to remember that the Asgard beaming tech needs its targeting sensors to work, without the sensors or a beacon (like the sub-cutaneous implants) they wouldn't have anything to lock on to beam.

                            Also, I should mention that, the implants are passive beacons, as in, they won't transmit until the ship scans for them at a certain frequency. If they were always transmitting, an enemy could find the signal and triangulate it.
                            So if an SGC team dialed Earth while pinned down, hoping for a beam out, they would die, because while the beacons could be initiated by the SGC and its signal detected, there would be no way for the SGC to pinpoint or triangulate the signals origin;
                            Unless they found a way to install sensors on a MALP or an UAV so they can serve as a relay, which is exactly part of the function of one of the obelisks in the equation.

                            The question of how the Asgard beaming tech, and the obelisks tech works (waves or matter stream) is an important one to be answer before we can find out if the beaming tech, and the obelisks tech would transport anything two ways. If is a Matter Stream then no, it shouldn't work but, if it uses radio waves, then yes it would work

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                              #15
                              Wormholes can send anything two ways.


                              But the gate changes you into energy and sends you through, only one gate one one side of the wormhole can do that.


                              So waves can go two ways.

                              Matter one way

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