F-302 with foldable wing for gate transport

[ckwongau]

A death glider can fold at least part of the wing



Apophis had attempted to build glider with puddle jumper abilities ,but it was not successfull due to the pilot's abilities to fly through the worm hole .

But the Goa'uld had depended on stargate for a large part of their operation, they must have transport glider like large cargo using the gate before.

SGC had tranport F-302 using the stargate like it's first mission to destory Anubis 's energy weapon, but it took a few day to the 302 parts and re assemble it .

We don't have that many puddle jumper for Earth's operation in two galaxy,nor the abilities to reproduce them yet.
What if we build a variant of the F-302 with foldable wing, to make it easier to transport through the stargate with minimum time require to get it to flight condition.

Earth fighter such as Su-33 has foldable wing for naval carrier, it is a naval variant of the su-27, the Russian redesign wing's internal section , hydrolic lines for the wingfold mechanism taken up space for fuel tank , so it carry less fuel ,but the wing is just as strong .

with operation in two galaxy , and the abilities to transport attact craft quickly could be a big advantage, we can use cloaked puddle jumper or troops to secure the other side of the gate and then send the f-302 as like large cargo to the other side, within a few minute the F-302 can lunch into the air/ space.

Foldable wing for transport just first step,with new anti gravity technologies ,the F-302 can hoover above ground and enter the gate by itself with the pilot already inside, and automatic unfold the wing .

plus with new DHD technologies, we can rip out the DHD on the Wraith dart .or some day Earth will build a DHD the size of a watch(Future Cassie in episode )
F-302 can be as effective as puddle jumper.

[Bray]

But would a foldable wing be able to take the huge stresses placed on it during battles, they're obviously faster than a SU-37. Maybe it'd be easier just to redesign an entire new craft especially for the job rather than retrofitting F-302's with foldable wings.

[Gate-builder]

The problem is that the Stargate isn't very big. An F-302 is quite a large aircraft really. It would have to have a very intricate wing-folding system to allow it through the gate in one piece.

You are right about the Su-33 having a folding wing, but even when folded the wingspan is still about 8m. I don't know the exact dimensions of the gate, but i don't think its that big. No aircraft today, even naval ones designed to take up less room, would be able to fit through the Stargate in one piece.

Also, the internal structure of the 302s wing would have to be redesigned if a folding mechanism was to be included.

Its a good idea though, having a fighter that can fit through the gate would be an asset. We could design one specifically, perhaps using Asgard technology. Something that doesn't have wings, can hover, and has VTOL capabilities so it wouldn't need a runway would be good.

[Agent_Dark]

But would a foldable wing be able to take the huge stresses placed on it during battles, they're obviously faster than a SU-37. Maybe it'd be easier just to redesign an entire new craft especially for the job rather than retrofitting F-302's with foldable wings.

most naval variants of aircraft have folding wings so they take up less deck space on a carrier. Talking F/A-18's and F-35C's for example. They are supersonic aircraft capable of 8-9g's on folding wings.

[Bray]

Yeah I know that...but I think an f-302 is decidably faster. And the faster you're going the more G's will be put on the wings especially when inertial dampners mean that the severity of the manouvre isn't limited by the human bodies ability to handle G's so potentially an F-302 will he subjected to much higer G's and for much longer.

[MechaThor]

I think even with the wings folded it would still be too big to fit through a gate!

It would be like a square peg into a round hole!

It might work however if we can retrofit the Goa'uld technology they use to hide technology, and make it smaller. I don't know the technologies name but its the one used on the Horus guards and Ra's helmets. Its also been seen used on parts of the Death Gliders wings, and newer metal built landing pyramids in 'Thors Hammer'. If we can use that technology on the wings it might work. I don't know how the technology works but I would guess it uses nanties or stores the technology in Sub Space?

Or we could just build are own Pubblejumper. Or ask the Nox or Asgard core to build us some bigger square gates to use between are offworld bases.

[RM_2000_A]

Or try and build a UAV fighter, so we don't end up wasting precious ace pilots and copilots.

[Bray]

Like the UAV we already have? That gets shot down or crashes just about every time we used it? and could have a maximum of 2 missiles and requires an open worm hole to operate so the maximum time usable is 38 minutes if you want to recover it?

[RM_2000_A]

It crashes because the eppy requires it to crash. And I said its a fighter so we can arm it with something good. The MALP can run on predefined instructions, and we can dial from Earth to recover it.

[Bray]

You can't pre define a dog fight, the second the connection between controller and UAV is cut it would be shot down.

The UAV would have to dial out remember worm holes are one way only.

[RM_2000_A]

If you want, just do a tiny maneuverable plane loaded with fuel that goes kamikaze. Easy, right?

[Bray]

Well not really, I mean that would be fairly useless for ground attack, and you'd need a lot of them, and if you're doing that why not just launch missiles through the gate like we have before?

[RM_2000_A]

Any either way, we can't do it as SG-1 is cancelled and we aren't TPTB.

[Bray]

That being said...the idea of missiles has intrigued me. Send a radar MALP though the gate, maybe with cloaking abilities. Then have a missile battery lock on and engage targets through the gate using the radar MALP.

Obviouly it would only be useful for Short ranges around the gate but it would ba a decent way of clearing enemy air support or providing immediate anti air capability around the gate.

[Agent_Dark]

That being said...the idea of missiles has intrigued me. Send a radar MALP though the gate, maybe with cloaking abilities. Then have a missile battery lock on and engage targets through the gate using the radar MALP.

Obviouly it would only be useful for Short ranges around the gate but it would ba a decent way of clearing enemy air support or providing immediate anti air capability around the gate.

You do realise that radar is easily detected right? It's akin to turning on a flashlight on a pitch black night. Sure you can see reasonably well in the direction you're pointing it - but everyone else around you can pinpoint exactly where you are and at a much greater distance than you yourself can see.
Fighter aircraft or other vehicles that are in the thick of things rarely, if ever, use their radar systems in a hostile situation for that very reason.