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GateWorld
January 24th, 2006, 12:16 AM
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<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 3003</FONT>
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The Doctor and Donna find themselves on a world where Ood are bred for servitude -- and about to revolt against their creators.

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Admiral Mappalazarou
April 19th, 2008, 11:09 AM
Excellent episode.

9/10. *applauds* And the doomsday theme is becoming Rose's new theme apparently.

Martha next week. *high fives*

dosed150
April 19th, 2008, 11:16 AM
anyone else notice that map of the human empire looked a lot like the slave trade route between britain, africa and north america

Admiral Mappalazarou
April 19th, 2008, 11:17 AM
anyone else notice that map of the human empire looked a lot like the slave trade route between britain, africa and north america

I didn't notice that, nice observation. :) Greeen.

Lt.Colonel Peters
April 19th, 2008, 11:25 AM
Excellent loved every mintue, especially the referance to the snow. What's the theory on the end of the doctors song? regeneration or his song as the last of the time lords? maybe they actually are going to come back.


Lt.Colonel

Missster.Freeman
April 19th, 2008, 11:29 AM
Enjoyed this week's episode. Great to see the Ooood again. I was wondering what that comment about the Doctor was all about. Sounded quite ominous. Could we be nearing the end of DT's tenure. I'm probably reading too much into it, though.

The_Carpenter
April 19th, 2008, 11:34 AM
Excellent loved every mintue, especially the referance to the snow. What's the theory on the end of the doctors song? regeneration or his song as the last of the time lords? maybe they actually are going to come back.


Lt.Colonel


Enjoyed this week's episode. Great to see the Ooood again. I was wondering what that comment about the Doctor was all about. Sounded quite ominous. Could we be nearing the end of DT's tenure. I'm probably reading too much into it, though.

As the Ood refer to the Doctor and Donna as a singular "item" ie. DoctorDonna I think its related to

Donna leaving at the end of Season four

Madeleine
April 19th, 2008, 11:36 AM
I love how real they look and how their eyes blink diagonally. And I loved how the Tim McInnery Ood sneezed out his brain.

Missster.Freeman
April 19th, 2008, 11:49 AM
haha Madeleine, it was quite a big hoch-a-loogie. :D I was surprised at how graphic and delectably squicky Halpern's transformation was. :zelenka25: I love the Ood now. Such beautiful music from them.


As the Ood refer to the Doctor and Donna as a singular "item" ie. DoctorDonna I think its related to

Donna leaving at the end of Season fourHmm. Yep, it could be.

Alipeeps
April 19th, 2008, 11:57 AM
Really fabulous episode. Had me utterly enthralled. Tim McInnery made a fabulous villain and the Ood were as fascinating as ever. Still enjoying the relationship between the Doctor and Donna and Catherine Tate once again did a sterling job. Really quite an action-packed episode with chases and explosions and gunfire.. I thought the scene of the Doctor being chased by the loading claw was great, really well executed.

Interesting that the bee thing was mentioned again - and really mentioned this time too, not just a passing reference. I take back my previous statements that the reference in PiC wasn't relevant... unless of course RTD is just toying with us with misdirection! :lol:

Loved the visuals of the ice planet too.

Major Clanger
April 19th, 2008, 01:19 PM
Most excellent. Tim McI turning into the Ood reminded me of the gas mask thing from The Empty Child. Very spooky.

The_Carpenter
April 19th, 2008, 01:46 PM
Most excellent. Tim McI turning into the Ood reminded me of the gas mask thing from The Empty Child. Very spooky.
Indeed, apparently the producers wanted that scene to be even more gruesome but they had to tone it down for the kids :p

wise one
April 19th, 2008, 02:10 PM
lol i just liked a scene when one Ood just attacked a soldier and just started waving his tecticles at his face..


probably just me but they were in the yaer 41something and they still had projectile weapons, for a race that has biusness with 3 other galaxies they dont have anything like plasma guns or something

The_Carpenter
April 19th, 2008, 02:14 PM
lol i just liked a scene when one Ood just attacked a soldier and just started waving his tecticles at his face..


probably just me but they were in the yaer 41something and they still had projectile weapons, for a race that has biusness with 3 other galaxies they dont have anything like plasma guns or something
projectile weapons are probably more reliable and cheaper to manufacture as well that company struck me as the sort to cut any corners possible :p

dosed150
April 19th, 2008, 02:41 PM
lol i just liked a scene when one Ood just attacked a soldier and just started waving his tecticles at his face..


probably just me but they were in the yaer 41something and they still had projectile weapons, for a race that has biusness with 3 other galaxies they dont have anything like plasma guns or something

it wasnt just that they were projectile weapons they were m16's i mean those are almost outdated already, was probably cutting corners with props more than anything else

Reefgirl
April 19th, 2008, 03:05 PM
Not too sure about this episode, Catherine Tate was wonderful as usual and so was Tim McInnery (I wonder if Mr Halpen's first name is Percy) The story was so-so, just your average Evil-humans-enslaving-a-peaceful-race episode

As for the Doctor's Song ending maybe it refers to his Song of Sadness which could mean one of several things
Rose coming back, Another Timelord being found or a way to bring Gallifrey back

Hulabaloo
April 19th, 2008, 03:09 PM
Very good episode. Loved it. Am really loving the relationship between the Doctor and Donna as well. She's what he really needs atm, a mate. :D

As with the end of his song, I hope its not a DT leaving the show. Would be a shame, but interesting to know what it is. The music was (I think) Rose's theme because it was played in PiC when Rose is shown...

Overall good episode. More tension between the Doctor and Donna and another bee reference. Hmm.

On another note, Yay Martha next week. But with Martha back, does that mean no more just Doctor and Donna eps?

Alipeeps
April 19th, 2008, 03:13 PM
On another note, Yay Martha next week. But with Martha back, does that mean no more just Doctor and Donna eps?

She's not back for good. Donna is still the companion for all of Season 4.

General Season 4 casting spoilers:Martha is back as a guest star in just a few episodes (I think 4?) including the Sontaran 2 parter and some eps near/at the end of the season.

The_Carpenter
April 19th, 2008, 03:16 PM
Very good episode. Loved it. Am really loving the relationship between the Doctor and Donna as well. She's what he really needs atm, a mate. :D

As with the end of his song, I hope its not a DT leaving the show. Would be a shame, but interesting to know what it is. The music was (I think) Rose's theme because it was played in PiC when Rose is shown...

Overall good episode. More tension between the Doctor and Donna and another bee reference. Hmm.

On another note, Yay Martha next week. But with Martha back, does that mean no more just Doctor and Donna eps?


I think theres four more episodes with just Donna and the Doctor in this season

Marthas in the next three episodes and the finale along with pretty much everyone else

Matt G
April 19th, 2008, 03:32 PM
1. First time we've really seen humanity as the bad guys in New School Who. A bit wierd, you weren't sure who to root for because let's face it, red-eye Ood are psycho!

2. Not as wierd as a human turning into an Ood though.

3. Pair point on the projectile weapons thing - then again Halpern did seem to like doing things the old fashioned way.

4. Getting absorbed by a giant brain is an ugly way to die.

And this was a very good ep. It'll be interesting to see why Martha's "calling you back" though!

huntress
April 19th, 2008, 04:06 PM
So far I have to say that this series makes me really happy. Lots of action in this episode surrounding a serious topic. Slavery. When the manager cruelly announces that he going to gas the whole lot - it worked in the past of human history after all too, it made my skin crawl since the references to the death camps was quite evident. Donna is really wonderful. she is funny and she doesn't take any crap from the Doctor. It looks like he is enjoying it too. It makes him a bit more humble and deflates his ego ;-)

The music from Murray Gold was wonderful in this episode and the song of the Ood reminded me of Tom Twyker's "Girl with the Plums" theme from "The Perfume" I can't wait for the third album to be released after the series

About the ending:

"And what about you? We have still room for you in our song." "No thank you I have a song of my own." "I think, Your song must end soon." " Meaning?" "Every song must end" and then we hear again the theme from Rose. Earlier on when he helps Donna to hear that heartbreakingly sad song of captivity and sorrow, he said to the distraught Donna that he hears that song all the time. We know that deep inside is a very lonely, sad man who lost everything , so yes he has a song like the Ood and I guess that the song will end means that he will finally find some closure in regard of the last Time War and also Rose. Also it seems to be important to be remembered. So far the constant theme was that both Donna and the doctor are remembered by the people they leave behind.

Elinor
April 19th, 2008, 11:38 PM
Great episode and quite moving in parts. The Ood are a very interesting and clever creation. Carrying the brain around in your hand must get a bit inconvenient at times though!!

The bees vanishing gets a mention again as well....hmmmm...they're gonna be doing something with this further down the line aren't they?!! :D

"Your song must end soon"....oooh what does that mean?!! See, that's what I love about this show. It keeps throwing little things like this and the bees into the storyline and then that gets you imagining all sorts of scenarios for upcoming episodes!!!

:)

Willow'sCat
April 20th, 2008, 01:02 AM
I really enjoyed this episode. Now this is what New Who is about, a bit dark, bit scary (for the kids) and a bit grey with the morals but they talked about it, they don't just do something and not say why they are doing it. Nothing is black and white... but they give you reasons. Although really? The Doctor in "Impossible Planet" & "The Satan Pit" didn't wonder if The Ood were slaves? Whether they had any real free will at all?

Oh - Kay. :S

The actual story was fairly good, typical humans once again exploiting others for their own gain. Will we ever learn? No of course not. :P There were some things that were a bit silly, a giant brain with no fluids? It would dry out surely? So would the ones they carry in their hands, not to mention being susceptible to diseases and viruses. But yeah, OK aliens it could happen I suppose.

I was a bit surprised by the death toll, yet again a lot of folks getting killed here and was I the only one who thought the guy who chased The Doctor with the claw thing (I don't know what they are called) was a bit OOC, well for a guy we hardly knew? I mean he seemed to go a bit nuts! lol

I liked that the bees were mentioned again, but could they be a red herring? I know we encounter a giant bee like thing in one episode, it is in the trailer so maybe the mentioning of the bee is stand alone to the other thread running through the series... eg Rose and what she has to do with The Doctor and things ending, she is coming and all the other hints. :S I admit to being intrigued but also annoyed. I hate puzzles, especially when I know I will not be given all the pieces until it is too late to make anything of them.

Donna was good, a bit too much over acting coming to the forefront with some of her delivery of lines, I am not familiar with her comedy show but I assume some of her 'characters' do get a bit forceful (loud) when speaking.;) The opening bit in the TARDIS stands out as too full on to me, and as someone said last ep they need to stop with the 'no we are not together in that way' stuff or it will be just as bad as all the shipping that went on and all the crushing that went on, in previous series. Just, you know stop. We get it.

Donna not attracted to the gorgeous Timelord as played by David Tennant.

Although I loved her response to being called "Miss" by The Ood. That was so Donna. :D

Next week: I was so looking forward to the Sontarans return but now it is a Martha episode I am not so sure, also they look and sound so different... :( one of the things I loved about the original appearance of Linx in Classic Who was that his appearance was left until the end of *think* first ep of the story. It was rather shocking to a little girl I can tell you. :p But here there is no mystery they put it in the trailer! Also they sound more like humans, Linx almost laboured to speak, he was hairy and his tongue was also strangely scary to me... don't ask :p I just wonder if the scary about these newer versions will be more what they do rather then how they go about doing it. Like so many things these days.

MechaThor
April 20th, 2008, 05:39 AM
Dam another Great episode, the stories always seem so new and original which is great!

Looks like the Ood storyline is over now, which is a shame as I rather liked them!

"Your song must end soon".... Very intresting! I wonder what that means? I loved how the Ood just sad it almost out of the blue, traking both the Doctor and me (the audience) by suprise!

Also like the disappearing planets from the last two episodes, this is the 2nd time this series that the "saved people" have remembered the Doctor and Donna, and hat the Disappearing Bees have been mentioned! I wonder if they mean anything aswell?

Maybe all the "wee will remember you" stuff will come together to make clues in time and space for Rose, or someone else like The Master? Just an Idea!

Gate-builder
April 20th, 2008, 07:49 AM
probably just me but they were in the yaer 41something and they still had projectile weapons, for a race that has biusness with 3 other galaxies they dont have anything like plasma guns or something

I noticed that as well. But then the AK-47 was still going strong in the year 100 trillion ;)

dipsofjazz
April 20th, 2008, 08:08 AM
Great episode and quite moving in parts. The Ood are a very interesting and clever creation. Carrying the brain around in your hand must get a bit inconvenient at times though!!

The bees vanishing gets a mention again as well....hmmmm...they're gonna be doing something with this further down the line aren't they?!! :D

"Your song must end soon"....oooh what does that mean?!! See, that's what I love about this show. It keeps throwing little things like this and the bees into the storyline and then that gets you imagining all sorts of scenarios for upcoming episodes!!!

:)

:D I also loved this episode for all the reasons stated above. I really like the way this series is progressing, and I think Donna is a great companion for the Doctor.

pbellosom
April 20th, 2008, 01:08 PM
Donna leaving at the end of Season four

What? No!!! Why can't they keep companions for long anymore? I'm also getting annoyed by the absence of proper companions in the Christmas Specials

This was the first episode of season four that I actually thought was good and has revived my hopes for the season. I still think the bee's are a red herring and will continue to insist this until the bee's actually appear, no matter how many times they're mentioned.

I personally reckon that this is how the Second Human Empire ends, freeing all the Ood would surely cause the economy to collapse.

How would evolution allow a creature with it's brain held in it's hands to survive?!

The_Carpenter
April 20th, 2008, 01:18 PM
What? No!!! Why can't they keep companions for long anymore? I'm also getting annoyed by the absence of proper companions in the Christmas Specials

Its understandable in Tates case though, she is very much a love her or hate her actress ;)


This was the first episode of season four that I actually thought was good and has revived my hopes for the season. I still think the bee's are a red herring and will continue to insist this until the bee's actually appear, no matter how many times they're mentioned.

Im not so sure about that, I think they are related to something this season


I personally reckon that this is how the Second Human Empire ends, freeing all the Ood would surely cause the economy to collapse.

Indeed


How would evolution allow a creature with it's brain held in it's hands to survive?!

Thats a good question, perhaps they were created by another race who then died out before Humans found them.

Alipeeps
April 20th, 2008, 01:30 PM
What? No!!! Why can't they keep companions for long anymore? I'm also getting annoyed by the absence of proper companions in the Christmas Specials

Is it actually confirmed that Donna will be leaving after Season 4?


How would evolution allow a creature with it's brain held in it's hands to survive?!

Well it's not a very hospital planet - maybe they evolved there in isolation with no natural predators?

The_Carpenter
April 20th, 2008, 02:36 PM
Is it actually confirmed that Donna will be leaving after Season 4?

Yes apparently...

She gets her memory wiped or something along those lines... I didnt read anymore than that for fear of getting over spoiled

Alipeeps
April 20th, 2008, 02:40 PM
Yes apparently...

She gets her memory wiped or something along those lines... I didnt read anymore than that for fear of getting over spoiled

Hmmm.... "apparently"... ;)

Well, I don't want to be over-spoiled either so I'll ask no further but given that the plot of the season finale arc is being kept under sooooper-sekrit wraps (to the point of not even revealing the title of episode 12) at this point, I do have to wonder if this is anything more than the usual media speculation...?

pbellosom
April 20th, 2008, 02:42 PM
the usual media speculation...?

Which has been very accurate in the past.

Pitry
April 21st, 2008, 04:35 AM
Another excellent episode. I'm happy....

ShadowMaat
April 21st, 2008, 10:36 AM
I thought it was a decent ep. Not OMGFANTASTIC, but not the worst ep I've ever seen. I liked the return to the Ood, although the whole "slavery is wrong" theme was a bit heavy-handed, IMO. I liked that the PR girl or whatever she was chose the bad guys instead of doing the right thing; it's always nice to meet peripheral folk who don't fall all over themselves to help the Doctor. ;)

The stuff with the brains was a bit... meh. While the image of the Ood holding their brains in their hands is a good one (and gross) I can't say that it seems very practical from an evolutionary standpoint. I know, I know, I'm overthinking it, but seriously, what's the use of having two hands if all you can do with them is hold your brain? Bit inconvenient for hunting/gathering, never mind anything else. If they at least had another set for actual use that might have been nice.

Not sure about motherbrain, either. Seemed even more impractical than the "I can't use my hands because I have to hold my brain" thing. A big, unprotected brain just grew there under the ice? How often do internal organs grow without a containing body? *shrug* Dunno, the whole set-up seemed a bit ood odd to me.

Loved Donna, though. I'm liking her no-nonsense attitude interspersed with moments of pure squee. I think one of my favorite scenes was when the Doctor was rattling on about Donna Noble, exploring the universe, only to turn around and find out she'd gone back inside. LOL!

I'll be interested to see where the whole "I think your song must end soon" thing is going. If it is just that Rose is coming back so his "lament" will be over, I'll be thoroughly disgusted. "Song" doesn't necessarily equal "lament;" the Ood were only sad because they were enslaved. Now that they're free, I doubt they'll still be singing a mournful tune.

Part of me hopes that it does mean Tennant will be leaving soon. I love him to bits, but I'm not opposed to seeing someone new step into his trainers. Another part of me, however, suspects that this is exactly the sort of panicky thought we're meant to think and that the reality will be something completely different. If worlds are being "lost" then perhaps at some point the Doctor is going to be "lost," too, and will have to be rescued/brought back by whoever is around at the time. If the Doctor is gone then his song WOULD end... but that wouldn't necessarily last.

I laughed at the bees thing, thinking of all those people who dismissed it as nothing only to have it mentioned again. LOL! Oops.

Alipeeps
April 21st, 2008, 10:43 AM
I laughed at the bees thing, thinking of all those people who dismissed it as nothing only to have it mentioned again. LOL! Oops.

Ahhh but is it actually significant or just cunning RTD misdirection? :lol:

ShadowMaat
April 21st, 2008, 11:02 AM
Ahhh but is it actually significant or just cunning RTD misdirection? :lol:

I guess we'll just have to bee there to find out what all the buzz is about. :D

Alipeeps
April 21st, 2008, 11:08 AM
I guess we'll just have to bee there to find out what all the buzz is about. :D

Gah. That's it. The "don't get yourselves in a lava" Doctor is a bad influence on you. Where once we could expect insightful wit, we now get cringeworthy puns. Go stand in the corner and contemplate just how you came to stoop so low. :D

Pitry
April 21st, 2008, 11:21 AM
I thought it was a decent ep. Not OMGFANTASTIC, but not the worst ep I've ever seen. I liked the return to the Ood, although the whole "slavery is wrong" theme was a bit heavy-handed, IMO. I liked that the PR girl or whatever she was chose the bad guys instead of doing the right thing; it's always nice to meet peripheral folk who don't fall all over themselves to help the Doctor. ;)
.

Hmm.. While I agree some of it was a bit too much shoving it down our throats (cough, slaves walking in line and one's falling and is being theratened by a whip? *raises eeybrow), I thought some of it was actually quite well done - like the little dig at modern day sweatshops.
As for the girl - huh, once again, the opposite. IT made it a bit simplistic - the bad guys are compeltely bad and all deserve to die. I thought had she just run away - not help the Doctor but not stand in their way either, it woudl have been a bit better. One of the best (and few) things in Vopyage of the Damned was the businessman in the end, who lived without redeeming himself. Not all the badguys have to die.


Gah. That's it. The "don't get yourselves in a lava" Doctor is a bad influence on you. Where once we could expect insightful wit, we now get cringeworthy puns. Go stand in the corner and contemplate just how you came to stoop so low. :D

*small* I was kidna entertained.....

ShadowMaat
April 21st, 2008, 11:25 AM
Gah. That's it. The "don't get yourselves in a lava" Doctor is a bad influence on you. Where once we could expect insightful wit, we now get cringeworthy puns. Go stand in the corner and contemplate just how you came to stoop so low. :D

Honey, your problem is that you hive no sense of humor. :P

*flies off before she gets swatted*

Alipeeps
April 21st, 2008, 12:57 PM
Honey, your problem is that you hive no sense of humor. :P

*flies off before she gets swatted*

PLease! No! No more! I... can't... take... any... moooooooorre!!! :lol:

Promethius30
April 21st, 2008, 01:02 PM
you know what the best part of the episode was for me. The next week part i loved last week Pompey episode this was just meh

Madeleine
April 22nd, 2008, 01:29 AM
Gah. That's it. The "don't get yourselves in a lava" Doctor is a bad influence on you.

Just wait for the ep where the bees become significant:

"don't get yourselves in a larva"

:D

DigiFluid
April 22nd, 2008, 01:38 AM
lol

I'm still convinced the bees thing is a red herring.

Flyboy
April 22nd, 2008, 03:58 AM
lol

I'm still convinced the bees thing is a red herring.
There's a bloody giant bee in the trailers! That's hardly a fish regardless of colour!

rosey_angel
April 22nd, 2008, 03:59 AM
i really liked this episode. catherine tate was so wonderful in it, she showed such heart.

Alipeeps
April 22nd, 2008, 04:48 AM
Just wait for the ep where the bees become significant:

"don't get yourselves in a larva"

:D

*weeps quietly whilst banging head against wall*


There's a bloody giant bee in the trailers! That's hardly a fish regardless of colour!

Um. It's a wasp, not a bee. As in the episode is titled "The Unicorn and the Wasp". :)

Therefore unlikely to be connected the the bee thing. Also as that ep is set in the 1920s, it's again unlikely to have anything to do with current bee issues. :)

P-90_177
April 22nd, 2008, 04:57 AM
you know what the best part of the episode was for me. The next week part i loved last week Pompey episode this was just meh

really? i thought it was much much better than pompeii. (don't get me wrong. i liked pompeii. hence the sig) i thought the fact that the boundaries between who was a good guy and who was a bad guy was blurred. doctor who is usually so clear cut.

AvatarIII
April 22nd, 2008, 07:39 AM
really? i thought it was much much better than pompeii. (don't get me wrong. i liked pompeii. hence the sig) i thought the fact that the boundaries between who was a good guy and who was a bad guy was blurred. doctor who is usually so clear cut.

agreed, FoP was exciting, and looked cool, but this had a stronger plot and out of all the new aliens in new DW the ood are the best imho

Blitz
April 23rd, 2008, 12:08 PM
I really liked this episode, found it a bit odd the guy turning into an Ood...but hey! Details :P

Out of curiosity...when the bad mans ship flew over the Dr and Dona...did anyone else think

THUNDERBIRD 3!!!!!!! or just me and my mate?

The_Carpenter
April 23rd, 2008, 01:21 PM
I really liked this episode, found it a bit odd the guy turning into an Ood...but hey! Details :P

Out of curiosity...when the bad mans ship flew over the Dr and Dona...did anyone else think

THUNDERBIRD 3!!!!!!! or just me and my mate?
As did the fear factor kids on the BBC website :p

having already read that I thought the same as the idea had been planted in my mind.

Reefgirl
April 23rd, 2008, 01:42 PM
I really liked this episode, found it a bit odd the guy turning into an Ood...but hey! Details :P

Out of curiosity...when the bad mans ship flew over the Dr and Dona...did anyone else think

THUNDERBIRD 3!!!!!!! or just me and my mate?
No it wasn't just you, I was waiting for Donna to yell "Oh my Gawd it's Thunderbird 3"

Dusk
April 24th, 2008, 08:27 AM
An average episode after last week's explosive installment. I guess I appreciate learning more about the Ood, that they weren't just a passing species here in one episode and gone in another. The icing on the cake for me comes with continuity references, not so much the discussion of the Devil from Season 2, but also that the Doctor has been in this part of space before, to the Sensor-Sphere, which was seen way back in the first season of Who in 1964!! And the alien race seen then look remarkably alike to the Ood. Brilliant! How I know all this being born in the 80s I'll never know...

Next week it's back to Earth for some Sontaran action, and Martha makes a comeback. Should be fun.

MasySyma
May 9th, 2008, 08:13 PM
I found this one ok, but not great. It was average.

Like most everyone, I enjoyed the backstory to the Ood, and I continue to enjoy the Donna/Doctor interactions.

I, however, could not suspend my disbelief enough to accept that the Ood had evolved to hold their brains. I agree with several other posts that it would be rather inconvienent at times. Additionally, the human who became an Ood didn't work much for me either.

Besides, we saw the Ood later on. They are a slave race then. Wasn't this episode supposed to be before Satan's Pit in the Ood timeline? If so, how did they lose their power? Or did the Doctor only free the Ood on this planet?

ShadowMaat
May 9th, 2008, 09:50 PM
Well, you know us humans, if at first you don't succeed, enslave, enslave again. ;)

The_Carpenter
May 10th, 2008, 12:35 AM
I found this one ok, but not great. It was average.

Like most everyone, I enjoyed the backstory to the Ood, and I continue to enjoy the Donna/Doctor interactions.

I, however, could not suspend my disbelief enough to accept that the Ood had evolved to hold their brains. I agree with several other posts that it would be rather inconvienent at times. Additionally, the human who became an Ood didn't work much for me either.

Besides, we saw the Ood later on. They are a slave race then. Wasn't this episode suppoused to be before Satan's Pit in the Ood timeline? If so, how did they lose their power? Or did the Doctor only free the Ood on this planet?
I thought it was quite obvious that Planet of the Ood takes place after the events of TIP/TSP.

Mr Prophet
May 10th, 2008, 01:00 AM
Gah. That's it. The "don't get yourselves in a lava" Doctor is a bad influence on you. Where once we could expect insightful wit, we now get cringeworthy puns. Go stand in the corner and contemplate just how you came to stoop so low. :D

I defy your claims of a pre-punning era.

Harry: Like finding a stone age man with a transistor radio.
Doctor: Playing rock music?
- Genesis of the Daleks

I liked this episode, but once more the message was a bit blunt; like being clobbered with a baseball bat while someone shouts: slavery is bad! Bad! Don't you understand! Bad! I just felt we could have got that without the guards having to be cartoonish sadists.

MasySyma
May 10th, 2008, 06:27 AM
I thought it was quite obvious that Planet of the Ood takes place after the events of TIP/TSP.

I had read otherwise on Outpost Gallifrey. That was why I asked.

MasySyma
May 10th, 2008, 06:30 AM
I liked this episode, but once more the message was a bit blunt; like being clobbered with a baseball bat while someone shouts: slavery is bad! Bad! Don't you understand! Bad! I just felt we could have got that without the guards having to be cartoonish sadists.

I agree that lesson was heavy-handed. It would have been better if we had seen other humans who didn't support the Ood slavery besides the one scientist. Otherwise, the human future doesn't look that great, and Donna's "take me home now" statement is very relevant. If society cannot progress, there is no point in examining the future to use it as a goal to move toward, which is why the Doctor always shows it off to the companions.

Alipeeps
May 11th, 2008, 03:06 PM
I defy your claims of a pre-punning era.

Harry: Like finding a stone age man with a transistor radio.
Doctor: Playing rock music?
- Genesis of the Daleks



I was referring to Shadow's pre-punning era, not the show's! :lol:

ShadowMaat
May 11th, 2008, 04:09 PM
I was referring to Shadow's pre-punning era, not the show's! :lol:

This thread is turning into a pre-punny opera. :P Gotta say, though, me 'n the Doctor? Baby, we were born to pun. :D

Alipeeps
May 11th, 2008, 04:54 PM
This thread is turning into a pre-punny opera. :P Gotta say, though, me 'n the Doctor? Baby, we were born to pun. :D

Pleeeease! Make it stop! *bangs head repeatedly against wall in traumatised rocking motion*

Madeleine
May 13th, 2008, 03:23 AM
Ali, you're no pun any more.

wwlh
May 13th, 2008, 09:19 AM
Loved the ep - tho I'm having a bit of trouble understanding Catherine Tate sometimes...

Only issue...and I'm sure it's just me...the Doctor using the Vulcan Mind Meld so that Donna could hear the song...

nx01a
May 14th, 2008, 10:27 AM
Oh, the Doctor's been copying Spock for a few seasons now.

Another reference to missing things. This time, the bees are mentioned again.

Interesting social commentary with another British Empire in the future being founded on slavery. Slave ships are now containers. I get it. Donna's clothes are made by slaves in the far east. lol

"Frolicking across the snow, like wildebeasts." :P

These companions seem to want the Doctor to be more classically sci-fi like. Rose wanted the Doctor to be more Spock-like, more like Capn Jack. Donna's happy to see a real rocket ship.:P I'd have to go back, but the rocket ship reminds me of the one used in the previous evil Ood 2 parter. They're from the same time period, so that's good continuity.

The Ood evolved with part of their brains hanging out... That kind of takes the point out of having 2 hands. I was honestly hoping for a massive Cthulhu, not an oversized brain, as being the cause of the red eye. How on Earth could something like that be born? Or survive? Or feed? And why did the head scientist slip between the cracks [literally]? I mean, did the brain WANT to crush/consume him? He was on their side!

Donna's initial reaction then acceptance of the Ood was believable. I mean, tentacles over their mouths... Her reaction to their telepathic song/cry was also believable. The Doctor's used to telepathic lament, she isn't. It compounds his capacity for understanding other races and his desire to help them.

The evil guy being changed into an Ood was seen a mile away, but the chessiness of the actual scene, the 'head down so I can pull off the mask' didn't work for me. The ethics of changing him into an Ood... I thought the Doctor was a bit hypocritical here. He's condemned entire races or individuals for doing similar things, but it's fair payback if the oppressed Ood do it? What about the British PM ordering Torchwood to blow up the Sycorax ship? Wasn't that a moral shade of gray, Doctor?

The massive crane was well done and the Ood makeup is great; I also love the voice acting for them.

Another enjoyable episode. More of the same.

ShadowMaat
May 14th, 2008, 11:25 AM
Rose wanted the Doctor to be more Spock-like, more like Capn Jack.
*boggles* Captain Jack Spock-like?! That... You... http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Myn_M/Doctor%20Who/The%204th%20Doctor/4thDoctoriO.gif

Sorry, does not compute. ;) I can't imagine anyone LESS like Spock than Jack.

Pitry
May 15th, 2008, 02:13 AM
*boggles* Captain Jack Spock-like?! That... You... http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/Myn_M/Doctor%20Who/The%204th%20Doctor/4thDoctoriO.gif

Sorry, does not compute. ;) I can't imagine anyone LESS like Spock than Jack.

That is the cutest TB smiley ever! :D

As for the Jack/Spock quote - methinks it's a Rose one? She wanted alien tech. And she called it "Spock" for whatever mad reason! :D

Flyboy
May 15th, 2008, 06:55 AM
The Doctor has NOT been copying Spock.

The Doctor "mind melded" in the Classic Series, it's a typical time lord trait.

Coco Pops
July 21st, 2008, 12:09 AM
I think this is the best episode we've had so far.... I felt quite sad at the end but also happy that the Ood are now free...

I liked this episode a lot except for the OTT chase with the claw thing.


Wasn't tha tindian actress in another episode in a previous season?

Alipeeps
July 21st, 2008, 01:04 AM
I think this is the best episode we've had so far.... I felt quite sad at the end but also happy that the Ood are now free...

I liked this episode a lot except for the OTT chase with the claw thing.

Wasn't tha tindian actress in another episode in a previous season?

Oh I loved the claw chase (other than the OTT acting of the security guard captain). It was a really good action piece and I loved the way the Doctor bounced off walls etc as he cornered trying to outrun the thing. :)

Coco Pops
July 21st, 2008, 03:07 AM
I also liked the comment re: Donna's clothes and how the Ood were slaves. We just has a news story about Nike workers in Indonesia being crammed into a tin shed and one long trough for upwards of 30+ men to bathe in.......

And yet we idiotically buy their brand name way over priced garments. Go figure

Coco Pops
July 21st, 2008, 08:00 AM
No it wasn't just you, I was waiting for Donna to yell "Oh my Gawd it's Thunderbird 3"



I thought that as well, and it wouldn't have been out of place had she actually said that.. But the Ferrari comparison was quite hilarious...

I like the Wiki article on this episode where they criticise the Doctor about his "clothes" comment....

See here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_of_the_Ood

MmmmMcKAy
November 21st, 2008, 06:26 PM
Great episode. I loved seeing the Ood again, Their physiology is quite interesting with the two brains and one huge shared brain. I'm so glad they are free. The Ood song is very poignant.

Once again Donna made me cry(when she cries, I cry). She is a very determined companion who has no trouble giving the Doctor what for and expressing her opinion. She also has great compassion and morality.

gateship15
November 21st, 2008, 10:14 PM
i agree with all that i think she is a great compaion wasn't fussed on her at first but she grew on me and in this episode she won me over. i also found the two brains and the sheared one interesting

Coco Pops
November 21st, 2008, 10:23 PM
I just got the series 4 soundtrack and that's got the Ood song on it yay.

gateship15
November 22nd, 2008, 08:17 PM
really thats interesting i didn't know doctor who had sound tracks and i have never seen them here

Coco Pops
November 22nd, 2008, 08:34 PM
The Ood evolved with part of their brains hanging out... That kind of takes the point out of having 2 hands. I was honestly hoping for a massive Cthulhu, not an oversized brain, as being the cause of the red eye. How on Earth could something like that be born? Or survive? Or feed? And why did the head scientist slip between the cracks [literally]? I mean, did the brain WANT to crush/consume him? He was on their side!



Sorry to write back to you so late and many months after this episode has been and gone but I have to say I had no problem with the Ood and their 2 brains. I don't think they actually have to hold the forebrain all the time. They can drop that and let it hang whilst using their hands. Didn't see a problem with that.

However I did have a problem with the big gant brain. Where did that come from? If these are the same species shouldn't there be a body for that somewhere?

gateship15
November 22nd, 2008, 08:43 PM
i think it depends the brain may have evolved more then the ood and may have evolved so it doesn't need a body altho i'm just guessing.

zuzukh
August 12th, 2009, 12:41 PM
the ood r way cool that is all that need b sed

gateship15
August 12th, 2009, 07:15 PM
lol i agree with that

Col.Foley
February 3rd, 2010, 10:55 PM
The ending of this was a bit hard to watch given what we know is coming for the good Doctor :(

gateship15
February 4th, 2010, 01:26 AM
i agree

mi_guard
September 13th, 2011, 01:10 AM
DoctorDonna

Coco Pops
September 13th, 2011, 03:23 AM
DoctorDonna

I think the Ood sensed the DoctorDonna too and so did several other aliens in the series and when they visited the Shadow Proclamation that woman serving her water told her she was "sorry for her loss" maybe she sensed about what the Doctor would take away from her?

maneth
April 25th, 2013, 09:42 AM
Interesting episode, although Donna irks me. She was a bit calmer this time, but earlier in the season she's been far too weird for a woman her age...

Girlbot
April 25th, 2013, 10:48 AM
Interesting episode, although Donna irks me. She was a bit calmer this time, but earlier in the season she's been far too weird for a woman her age...

I thought it was just because she hadn't had that much experience in life to make her more mature. Experiences with the Doctor made her grow mentally.

Coco Pops
April 25th, 2013, 08:46 PM
I thought it was just because she hadn't had that much experience in life to make her more mature. Experiences with the Doctor made her grow mentally.


Yeah untill he yanks all that away from her leaving her the same as when she started. No choice in it for her.

maneth
April 26th, 2013, 08:51 AM
Haven't seen that happen yet... Still, she must be in her late thirties or early forties, living with her mother and grandfather... No wonder she ran off with an alien, I would too!