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pilgrim soul
September 6th, 2008, 03:41 AM
Becasue something bad has happened to Sheppard there and that's why McKay is there

But why would Sheppard be at Area 51? It makes my brain hurt. :(

melfan
September 6th, 2008, 03:43 AM
so... he's gone from pegasus, to vegas, to area 51 for no apparent reason yet?

makes sense. :p

Who said things had to make sence? :P


But why would Sheppard be at Area 51? It makes my brain hurt. :(

Due to something that was found somewhere and he's there visiting or something and whatever it is something ancient that do bad things to Sheppard and McKay tries to fix it

GoSpikey
September 6th, 2008, 08:20 AM
Or you're simply over thinking things. You won't know the answer till December. :P

melfan
September 6th, 2008, 09:16 AM
Or you're simply over thinking things. You won't know the answer till December. :P

Is it December yet? :P

jelgate
September 6th, 2008, 09:39 AM
Its possibe you might have to wait to January.

Platschu
September 6th, 2008, 10:00 AM
Its possibe you might have to wait to January.

2008. 09. 05. - Whispers
2008. 09. 12. - The Queen
2008. 09. 19. - Tracker
2008. 09. 26. - First Contact
2008. 10. 03. - -
2008. 10. 10. - The Lost Tribe
2008. 10. 17. - Inquisition
2008. 10. 24. - Outsiders
2008. 10. 31. - -
2008. 11. 07. - The Prodigal
2008. 11. 15. - Remnants
2008. 11. 22. - Brain Storm
2008. 11. 29. - Infection
2008. 12. 05. - Identity
2008. 12. 12. - Vegas
2008. 12. 19. - Enemy At The Gate

But I think they will make other one week hiatus, so maybe the final episode(s) will be aired only in January.

melfan
September 6th, 2008, 10:06 AM
January? But that is so far away! :eek:

jelgate
September 6th, 2008, 10:10 AM
2008. 09. 05. - Whispers2008. 09. 12. - The Queen2008. 09. 19. - Tracker2008. 09. 26. - First Contact2008. 10. 03. - -2008. 10. 10. - The Lost Tribe2008. 10. 17. - Inquisition2008. 10. 24. - Outsiders2008. 10. 31. - -2008. 11. 07. - The Prodigal2008. 11. 15. - Remnants2008. 11. 22. - Brain Storm2008. 11. 29. - Infection2008. 12. 05. - Identity2008. 12. 12. - Vegas2008. 12. 19. - Enemy At The GateBut I think they will make other one week hiatus, so maybe the final episode(s) will be aired only in January.I would be very surprised if an episode aired on the 11/29. SciFi rarely airs new episodes during Thanksgiving weekend. And going to the 12/19 is too close to Christmas when TV viewership is dangerously low

GoSpikey
September 6th, 2008, 10:39 AM
I agree with Jelly.

rarocks24
September 6th, 2008, 11:42 AM
Maybe what happens to Sheppard is a continuation of something that happens in Infection?

Colonel Sheppard is a detective (human) investigating a string of murders committed by a Wraith (the Wraith representing the mutated gene therapy that may or may not have occured on the hive ship in orbit), and is an internal battle against two natures whilst those on the outside try to save him.

But that's a stretch, and highly unlikely...

Would make a good fanfic though.

GoSpikey
September 6th, 2008, 11:53 AM
Infection - Identity - Vegas - Enemy At The Gate.

rarocks24
September 6th, 2008, 11:57 AM
Infection - Identity - Vegas - Enemy At The Gate.

Not sure what you mean by that. I know Identity is between Infection and Vegas.

Still doesn't mean whatever happens to Sheppard couldn't have happened in Infection, and the symptoms take that long to manifest.

Viruses have the nasty habit of never fully going away (as in they sit in your system, whether dead, dormant, or alive and kicking).

GoSpikey
September 6th, 2008, 12:29 PM
Infection is a continuation from The Queen. Vegas is not a continuation from TQ/I...

Continuity in episodes is great, but I'm not expecting it there.

If that was a possibility, maybe they would have also let us know what they got from Fran in GitM, on aliens, before possibly the mid-season two-parter, or not at all... :S

melfan
September 6th, 2008, 12:44 PM
I guess we have to wait and see until Vegas actually airs or till we get more information

GoSpikey
September 6th, 2008, 12:49 PM
As it is with many things: yup. :)

Jumper_One
September 7th, 2008, 11:13 AM
Infection is a continuation from The Queen. Vegas is not a continuation from TQ/I...

actually according to GW Infection's

"A mysterious arrival, a difficult dilemma, and the continuation of a storyline introduced in 'The Queen.'"
http://www.gateworld.net/atlantis/s5/517.shtml

it doesn't necessarily have to be about Teyla, Todd and the Wraith

naamiaiset
September 7th, 2008, 11:16 AM
Infection is a continuation from The Queen. Vegas is not a continuation from TQ/I...
"outsiders" is the continuation from "the queen".


Maybe what happens to Sheppard is a continuation of something that happens in Infection?

Colonel Sheppard is a detective (human) investigating a string of murders committed by a Wraith (the Wraith representing the mutated gene therapy that may or may not have occured on the hive ship in orbit), and is an internal battle against two natures whilst those on the outside try to save him.

But that's a stretch, and highly unlikely...

Would make a good fanfic though.
that's another problem... how did/does the so-called "wraith" arrive on earth at all?

Infinatus
September 7th, 2008, 11:49 AM
that's another problem... how did/does the so-called "wraith" arrive on earth at all?

The events in Vegas could be an illusion or VR.

naamiaiset
September 7th, 2008, 11:53 AM
The events in Vegas could be an illusion or VR.
true, but it would still need an explanation... at least, I'd think so.

Infinatus
September 7th, 2008, 11:58 AM
true, but it would still need an explanation... at least, I'd think so.

Well it's too early to tell, though I liked The Changeling so I'm personally not too worried about the plot of the episode at the moment. I am however not liking that they're intentionally making this episode have a CSI feel.

GoSpikey
September 7th, 2008, 01:01 PM
"outsiders" is the continuation from "the queen".

Your 100% of verification would be where, exactly? Outsiders is about the Hoffan drug, not the drug to make Wraith stop from feeding, if I'm correct.

We don't even know if Dave is in The Queen, too. Any Wraith can have long hair and a beard. A bad promo is no evidence.

naamiaiset
September 7th, 2008, 01:04 PM
your 100% of verification would be where, exactly? Outsiders is about the hoffan drug, not the drug to make wraith stop from feeding, if i'm correct.

On the brighter side, both Alan and Carl have episode titles for their scripts. Outsiders will be Alan’s follow-up to The Queen

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/may-8-2008-production-update/

as for "dave", I was speculating... hence I said "might".

GoSpikey
September 7th, 2008, 01:06 PM
He writes *one* script, then he goes on to the next one. For Alan himself, it's his 'follow-up' script, but that doesn't say with 300% certainty that the two stories are linked...

naamiaiset
September 7th, 2008, 01:13 PM
it doesn't negate from the possibility the two are linked either. as you always say though, wrong thread for this. ;)

PG15
September 7th, 2008, 01:46 PM
A mention from David Nykl:


Hard to believe but this will be my last week on Atlantis the series. Three days this week, two on "Enemy at the Gate", the finale; and a day on "Vegas" the penultimate Atlantis adventure.

http://lettersfrompegasus.blogspot.com/2008/09/tired-monsters.html

GoSpikey
September 7th, 2008, 03:46 PM
Hopefully, see you in the movies!

Flyboy
September 8th, 2008, 08:03 AM
The events in Vegas could be an illusion or VR.
*cue holographic doctor joke*

Risem
September 9th, 2008, 02:14 AM
*cue holographic doctor joke*

*giggles*

Yep, maybe someone's imagination just runs wild.

naamiaiset
September 10th, 2008, 07:38 PM
Well, things are winding down here for us at The Bridge Studios. In a little over a week, we’ll be wrapping up production in Vancouver before shifting focus to our location shoot in Vegas for a few days. After that, we’ll strike the sets, say our goodbyes, put the production assistants to sleep, and mark the end of a glorious five year run with a special Milestone Episode/End Of Series Wrap Party - our second in three years! Before then, however, some familiar faces will be dropping by. Actor Michael Beach was on set yesterday. Today, it was Mitch Pileggi. Amanda Tapping and Christopher Heyerdahl will be joining us in the days to come.

from - http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/09/10/september-10-2008-still-no-planetary-apocalypse-the-countdown-begins-and-continuing-our-tour-of-the-fx-stage/

naamiaiset
September 11th, 2008, 01:24 AM
http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2008/09/stargate-atlantis-episode-519-vegas.html

if that's authentic, it'd be hilarious. :p

Risem
September 11th, 2008, 02:00 AM
http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2008/09/stargate-atlantis-episode-519-vegas.html

if that's authentic, it'd be hilarious. :p

Oh man, that would be great. But I suppose you can't an ep in Vegas without gambling. lol.
Who knows.

pilgrim soul
September 11th, 2008, 02:06 AM
http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2008/09/stargate-atlantis-episode-519-vegas.html

if that's authentic, it'd be hilarious. :p

The pages definitely look like the real deal, based on sides I've seen before and that site is pretty reliable.

This episode sounds more bizarre with every spoiler released.

GoSpikey
September 11th, 2008, 06:18 AM
How about playing "Russian Roulette"? :P

jelgate
September 11th, 2008, 07:13 AM
*steps away from Spikey*

Keep that revolver away from.

Now if you want to play the roulette wheel that is a different story:P

GoSpikey
September 11th, 2008, 07:15 AM
*Throws the lil ball against Jel's head*

There you go. Start spinning. :D

Jumper_One
September 11th, 2008, 10:25 AM
http://spoilertv.blogspot.com/2008/09/stargate-atlantis-episode-519-vegas.html

if that's authentic, it'd be hilarious. :p

ok that's... strange :P

GoSpikey
September 11th, 2008, 10:44 AM
*Sees her dreams being fulfilled*

Wraith in Vegas, Baby! :lol:

jenks
September 11th, 2008, 02:15 PM
I really hope this is some sort of alternate reality/VR/not really happening type episode.

prion
September 11th, 2008, 05:43 PM
A new article on the episode, with photo!

http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=58989

GoSpikey
September 12th, 2008, 03:24 AM
Actor Neil Jackson plays a wraith in the show.


So much for it being Todd, in a fantasy... :P

Definitely ep 100 for him, then.

Laura Dove
September 12th, 2008, 03:28 AM
So much for it being Todd, in a fantasy... :P
Definitely ep 100 for him, then.

I asked JM on his blog which would be Todd's 5th episode, but he didn't answer. I have a feeling the "Vegas" wraith either will die at the end or is not real, so I prefer him not to be Todd. ;) This wraith, or wraith illusion, or whatever, apparently kills many people in a short time. He's voracious!

GoSpikey
September 12th, 2008, 03:30 AM
Laura, we have a name for the actor from Vegas, so it's not him... :D

Ep 100 with him though, sounds awesome! And more than we could have hoped for.

Laura Dove
September 12th, 2008, 03:35 AM
Laura, we have a name for the actor from Vegas, so it's not him... :D

I know, that's what I was replying to, I just wanted to add that I prefer it that way. :D



Ep 100 with him though, sounds awesome! And more than we could have hoped for.

Are we sure of that? It seems likely as he doesn't seem to have a part to play in other episodes, but he still could make a brief appearance in "Outsiders" or even "Remnants".

GoSpikey
September 12th, 2008, 03:38 AM
Joe mentioned on his blog that:

Amanda and Chris would be at the office next week, or so, so maybe it's episode related...

Or was it this week?

Laura Dove
September 12th, 2008, 03:41 AM
Joe mentioned on his blog that:
Amanda and Chris would be at the office next week, or so, so maybe it's episode related...
Or was it this week?

As I understood it, they were just passing by to say goodbye, but I may be wrong and they may actually still be casting the episode.

GoSpikey
September 12th, 2008, 03:49 AM
Yeah, I was a bit confused too, but I don't think he should be in any other eps but that one. :)

Risem
September 12th, 2008, 03:53 AM
Wow, this Neil Jackson guy (the wraith) is HOT.
I seriously can't wait now.

rarocks24
September 12th, 2008, 07:06 AM
Wow, this Neil Jackson guy (the wraith) is HOT.
I seriously can't wait now.

Neil Jackson knows how to play life sucking evil monsters.

He also happens to be shirtless in SG-1 "Prototype", in which he starred as Khalek, or mini-Anubis.

GoSpikey
September 12th, 2008, 08:26 AM
Seriously? That guy was Anubis' experimental son? :eek:

Yay!

rarocks24
September 12th, 2008, 08:39 AM
Seriously? That guy was Anubis' experimental son? :eek:

Yay!

http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/albums/sg1_season9/909-Prototype/photos/909_prototype_01.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1337982/

;)

supersoldier34
September 12th, 2008, 08:42 AM
Neil Jackson knows how to play life sucking evil monsters.

He also happens to be shirtless in SG-1 "Prototype", in which he starred as Khalek, or mini-Anubis.

the actor played in one CSI: Miami episode

rarocks24
September 12th, 2008, 08:47 AM
the actor played in one CSI: Miami episode

And in an episode of regular CSI, he played a blind waiter. ;)

prion
September 13th, 2008, 08:38 PM
Bunch of shots of David Nykl and David Hewlett in suits, and Bob Picardo (nearly always in suits) from "Vegas" at JM's blog at

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/09/13/september-13-2008-fans-protest-main-title-compressed-some-questions-addressed/

morjana
September 13th, 2008, 09:06 PM
From Joseph Mallozzi's blog (http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/09/13/september-13-2008-fans-protest-main-title-compressed-some-questions-addressed/) update for Sept. 13:...Is that actor David Hewlett’s wedding ring…or character Rodney McKay’s wedding ring?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/morjana/joblog/dsc006351.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/morjana/joblog/weddingring.jpg)

PG15
September 13th, 2008, 11:38 PM
What's really odd is how Walter is there in his SGC uniform, while everyone else are in suits. I mean, if it's all an illusion or whatever, I'd understand why McKay and Zelenka would be, like "Detective McKay" and "Detective McKay's personal assistant, Radek Zelenka" and have to wear suits, but Walter? In an SGC uniform in the same scene? Huh?

Veeeeeery interesting.

Or, maybe he was just in those pics for fun.

Jeff O'Connor
September 13th, 2008, 11:55 PM
I was just thinking about that, PG15! I found it very odd indeed. The notion that he's just hanging out had crossed my mind, but if there's any legitimate lead-in from 'Vegas' to 'Enemy At The Gate', well, he is supposed to be in that, so... well, so maybe that lends to both arguments. He might have simply come along for the ride since he's scheduled to appear in 5x20, or he may be reintroduced in 5x19 as part of the overall story.

Naonak
September 14th, 2008, 04:32 AM
Curiouser and curiouser...

GoSpikey
September 14th, 2008, 08:09 AM
das seems to think/want the Wraith actor to have 6 nipples, so I'd best show her this:

http://www.macsyourman.com/stargatesg1971/screencaps/season9/909dvd/caps/sg1-9x09-2489.html

;)

fuchsia
September 14th, 2008, 08:31 AM
From Joseph Mallozzi's blog (http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/09/13/september-13-2008-fans-protest-main-title-compressed-some-questions-addressed/) update for Sept. 13:...Is that actor David Hewlett’s wedding ring…or character Rodney McKay’s wedding ring?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/morjana/joblog/dsc006351.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v443/morjana/joblog/weddingring.jpg)

I think it's McKay's rather than Hewlett's (pardon the squee;)!) cos they are in costume for the scene aren't they?

prion
September 14th, 2008, 02:22 PM
A motherlode of Vegas behind the scenes shots at

http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/dove45/stargate%20atlantis/

mucho big thanks to Titine at the Joe Flanigan thread for posting this!

Pandora's_Box
September 14th, 2008, 03:37 PM
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/dove45/stargate%20atlantis/MVC-010F-1.jpg

Oh my dear God!

:: fans self ::

I want me one of those!

fuchsia
September 14th, 2008, 03:41 PM
:lol::lol:and thrice :lol:

marli
September 14th, 2008, 03:45 PM
I look forward to seeing this episode and at the same time I'm sad because it is the end, it is a bizarre feeling.

naamiaiset
September 14th, 2008, 03:53 PM
I look forward to seeing this episode and at the same time I'm sad because it is the end, it is a bizarre feeling.
this episode itself sounds bizarre... :p

marli
September 14th, 2008, 03:54 PM
this episode itself sounds bizarre... :p

LOL wait and see, sometimes they surprise us.

rarocks24
September 14th, 2008, 06:41 PM
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/606/mvc003f3ut5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

melfan
September 15th, 2008, 12:47 AM
this episode itself sounds bizarre... :p

It does indeed, very bizarre!

But I like bizarre, so this ep is gonna rock :D

naamiaiset
September 15th, 2008, 01:11 AM
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/606/mvc003f3ut5.jpg
now that's intimidating... not. :p

Risem
September 15th, 2008, 04:07 AM
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/606/mvc003f3ut5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

That looks like the wraith. *squee*

g.o.d
September 15th, 2008, 04:21 AM
is that Vala in one of those pics?

GoSpikey
September 15th, 2008, 06:37 AM
This one, you mean?

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e236/dove45/stargate%20atlantis/MVC-008F.jpg

I don't know. She's Vala-ish... It would be nice to see her back, though. Isn't she a bit taller?

Automission
September 15th, 2008, 02:27 PM
I'm getting a feeling this would be a "it's all a dream" episode. Because all it can be is a dream, or the entire Atlantis expedition was a dream, or a Coma fantasy, Nano induced fantasy, or any other space fantasy/VI.
Which really takes some of the fun out of it, as you know it's one of them.#

Also I don't think thats Vala. The hair looks too flat, and the face is a different shape. She only looks similar due to the facial expression.

rarocks24
September 15th, 2008, 04:05 PM
It's not Vala.

And the events of this episode play a part in "Enemy at the Gate".

GoSpikey
September 16th, 2008, 08:35 AM
It's said to be 'lightly related' to EatG...

jelgate
September 16th, 2008, 09:19 AM
I imagine its like how Inferino is related to Allies like thing

rarocks24
September 16th, 2008, 09:35 AM
It's said to be 'lightly related' to EatG...
Notice I didn't specify the size of the part. ;)

naamiaiset
September 19th, 2008, 06:47 AM
Well, yesterday was the final day of shooting for many of our regular and recurring actors: Rachel Luttrell, Jewel Staite, Jason Momoa, David Hewlett, Kavan Smith, Sharon Taylor, and Chuck Campbell. Today, marks Bob Picardo last day with us. Joe Flanigan heads to Vegas next week where he will complete filming on Vegas, and the series, alongside guest stars Neil Jackson, Steve Schirripa (The Soprano’s Bobby “Bacala“ Baccalieri), and Frank Vincent (The Soprano’s Frank Leotardo).

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/september-18-2008-saying-goodbye-to-sga-looking-forward-to-sgu/

jelgate
September 19th, 2008, 06:56 AM
Are you the new PG15:P

naamiaiset
September 19th, 2008, 07:00 AM
sure, why not? :p

Jeff O'Connor
September 19th, 2008, 07:04 AM
Are you the new PG15:P

We shall call the replacement... PG-1315!

It's a more hip and happening variety. You can get away with more this way, also!

jenks
September 19th, 2008, 07:36 AM
Reusing Neil Jackson? Oh well, at least we get some gangsters. I'm surprised they could get Frank Vincent to be honest, nice. :)

naamiaiset
September 19th, 2008, 04:52 PM
Production on Stargate Atlantis wrapped today for most of our cast and crew. As the sets go dark here at The Bridge Studios, the scene shifts to Vegas for a few more days of filming after which work on the series is finally complete. Well, almost complete because work continues for post, viz, the producers, and Joel Goldsmith who still have weeks to go before they can sail off into the sunset.

from - http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/09/19/september-19-2008-last-call/

Jeff O'Connor
September 19th, 2008, 04:54 PM
At least I have the pseudo-privilege of getting to say SGA is wrapping up in a state next door to me.

Then again, that isn't even true, since its subsequent continuations will no doubt be done at Bridge Studios. :p

naamiaiset
September 23rd, 2008, 11:09 PM
from carl binder's Q&A.


Carl got to work on his beat sheet, Alan made some calls, Martin cleaned up his office, while I responded to some emails, approved some promo pics/footage, and cleared up my desk. Rob was already at post, working on an unfinished director’s cut of Vegas.


Abbas Karimjee writes: “Will the Atlantis movie wrap up the wraith storyline? When will the members of the production who were at Vegas be finished with their filming?”

Answers: 1) No comment. 2) The Vegas shoot starts and wraps next week.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/september-23-2008-carl-binder-up-close-and-personal-further-discussion-on-the-black-company-the-mailbag-and-a-behind-the-scenes-snippet/

prion
September 24th, 2008, 01:01 PM
http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/blogs/article/4576

BY: ROY WINSTON
PUBLISHED: Wednesday Sep 24, 2008 12:58 PM

excerpt:

I am here until the weekend then back to NY for a family function, then off to Vegas. I will be filming an episode of Stargate Atlantis in Vegas at the end of the month. Although I have done a fair number of talk shows over the years, it will be my first TV series. I'm sure my part is going to be very small, but who knows, I could be discovered and on my way to yet another career (for those of you who like to post on the various forums keep in mind that the preceding sentence is meant to be sarcastic).

Jumper_One
September 24th, 2008, 06:09 PM
Went in today and watched Rob’s partial director’s cut of Vegas. Rob did a terrific job on this one and, once completed, it’ll be a truly cinematic out-of-the-box episode.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/september-24-2008-advertising-gaffes-and-the-great-tap-vs-bottled-water-taste-off/

Jumper_One
September 26th, 2008, 05:04 PM
from RP's Q&A on Joe's Blog

Laura writes: “Do you have any thoughts/comments about the closure of Star Trek: The Experience in Las Vegas?”

RP: I do think it was unwise of whomever purchased the Vegas Hilton to decide to close this attraction only a few moments before the Star Trek franchise is about to be revitalized by the new J.J. Abrams film. I am delighted to report that we reference Star Trek: The Experience in an upcoming Stargate: Atlantis episode set in Vegas. Dr. Mckay’s character points out that there is only one place an alien could easily get a job in Vegas and that’s in Star Trek :The Experience. He of course gets a droll response from Richard Woolsey who happens to look more than little like that Doctor character from Star Trek.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/september-26-2008-robert-picardo-answers-your-questions/

rarocks24
September 26th, 2008, 06:06 PM
from RP's Q&A on Joe's Blog

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/september-26-2008-robert-picardo-answers-your-questions/

Is this a subtle hint that we may see Klingons on Stargate: Atlantis?

One can dream can't they?

jelgate
September 26th, 2008, 06:19 PM
I don't think Paramount would approve of that

naamiaiset
September 26th, 2008, 06:22 PM
Is this a subtle hint that we may see Klingons on Stargate: Atlantis?

One can dream can't they?
woolsey reminds me more of a borg. :p

Jumper_One
September 26th, 2008, 06:23 PM
woolsey reminds me more of a borg. :p

7 of 9? :P

rarocks24
September 26th, 2008, 06:24 PM
woolsey reminds me more of a borg. :p
The Wraith remind me of Klingons.

jelgate
September 26th, 2008, 06:31 PM
Todd reminds me of a Breen

rarocks24
September 26th, 2008, 07:42 PM
Todd reminds me of a Breen
Really?

Todd reminds me of Gowron... or actually, Martok. Todd reminds me of Martok.

And I take that back, the Wraith remind me of the Romulans Post Nemesis.

jelgate
September 26th, 2008, 08:59 PM
You know the saying. Never turn you back on a Breen. And I would never turn my back on Todd

pilgrim soul
September 26th, 2008, 11:26 PM
from RP's Q&A on Joe's Blog

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/september-26-2008-robert-picardo-answers-your-questions/

Now you see that comment kind of rules out the hallucination/its all in Sheppard's head theory don't you think? It doesn't rule out an AU of course.

Jumper_One
September 27th, 2008, 10:30 AM
Really?

Todd reminds me of Gowron... or actually, Martok. Todd reminds me of Martok.

And I take that back, the Wraith remind me of the Romulans Post Nemesis.

post Nemesis?


Now you see that comment kind of rules out the hallucination/its all in Sheppard's head theory don't you think?

how so?


It doesn't rule out an AU of course.

true but that'd be way too obvious imo

prion
September 29th, 2008, 03:46 AM
Ah, crap, it is an AU story, so we'll spend two episodes not in the real SGA?

http://www.lvrj.com/blogs/vegasvoice/SHOOTING_STARS_Stargate_Atlantis_orbits_Planet_Hollywood.html

SHOOTING STARS: 'Stargate: Atlantis' orbits Planet Hollywood
Posted by Carol Cling
Monday, Sep. 29, 2008 at 05:00 AM

To some, Las Vegas already qualifies as an alternate universe, complete with alien life-forms.

But “Stargate: Atlantis” puts that description into practice at Planet Hollywood, spending Monday and Tuesday in front of the casino, inside the casino — and on the roof, where a stunt player will perform a nine-story fall.

As fans of the Sci-Fi Channel hit know, the show ends its run following its 100th episode in January. Its 99th, however, brings commander John Sheppard (Joe Flanigan, right) to Las Vegas — in “an alternate reality story” set on “a slightly askew version of Earth,” explains executive producer Robert Cooper, writer-director of the made-in-Vegas episode.

Rather than becoming a space pilot, Sheppard “ended up as a homicide detective in this reality,” Cooper notes. He’s investigating a serial murder case — and trying to find an enemy Wraith (played by guest star Neil Jackson) who’s “hiding himself in Las Vegas” and, disguised by makeup, “blends in quite well.”

The Wraith, Cooper reports, even ends up playing high-stakes poker with a couple of familiar faces: “Sopranos” veterans Steve Schirripa and Frank Vincent.

Overall, the episode is intended as “a bit of an homage” to another Vegas show, “CSI: Crime Scene Investigation.”

Cooper describes it as “stylistically similar to ‘CSI,’ " noting that “if you tuned in late, you might think you had turned on the wrong show.”

Except, that is, for all those members of the “Stargate: Atlantis” universe hanging around.

“Fortunately,” Cooper observes, “when you work in science fiction, you can pretty much do anything.”

pilgrim soul
September 29th, 2008, 03:55 AM
Ah, crap, it is an AU story, so we'll spend two episodes not in the real SGA?

One episode. The finale is only vaguely related to this one and we know for a fact that the finale is set in the regular universe what with Shep flying 302's etc

Disappointing that the Shep episode this year isn't even our Shep but ho hum, still sounds like it could be fun.

jjit
September 29th, 2008, 04:18 AM
make CSI style theme song:cameron:

JackHarkness_Hot
September 29th, 2008, 04:51 AM
Oddly, I can't wait to see this episode. I'm a major fan of CSI so if it's to take premise to that similar to CSI then this episode could be quite compelling, if not entertaining.

[email protected] :lol:

"Whooo are you? (Atlantis, Atlantis)
Whooo are you? (Atlantis, Atlantis)
I really want to know!"

Anyway, this episode better had been well-written!! **fingers crossed**

g.o.d
September 29th, 2008, 06:35 AM
LOL :D another AU idiotic pointless episode. Great work!!!

melfan
September 29th, 2008, 06:49 AM
LOL :D another AU idiotic pointless episode. Great work!!!

Don't judge the episode until you've seen it :P

g.o.d
September 29th, 2008, 06:53 AM
Don't judge the episode until you've seen it :P

AU episode

wraith plays poker with "Sopranos" stars... WTF???

CSI style episode. If I want to watch CSI, I will watch CSI, not a scifi show.

They have Wraith in PG and new enemy. Deal with those story lines.

and what's the meaning of this episode?

melfan
September 29th, 2008, 07:01 AM
AU episode

wraith plays poker with "Sopranos" stars... WTF???

CSI style episode. If I want to watch CSI, I will watch CSI, not a scifi show.

They have Wraith in PG and new enemy. Deal with those story lines.

and what's the meaning of this episode?

Right now? To confuse the hell out of us!

But I think it this is gonna be a hell of an episode to watch, I'm not gonna judge it before hand and I don't think you should either.

Lorr
September 29th, 2008, 07:09 AM
I need to remember this episode was written and in the works before it was known that there would be no season 6. I am disappointed, though, that the one "true" Shepisode in S5 was not in the SGA reality. I know the writers have problems writing for Shep, but surely they could have come up with something other than AU.

As has been said, though, this may be a good way for producers of other shows in the works to see that JF would be great in a role that isn't sci fi. They're blind if they don't.

rarocks24
September 29th, 2008, 07:17 AM
I'm actually rather intrigued. As a fan of both shows, it'd be interesting to see just how they do this.

And a Wraith playing poker... with two Sopranos' Stars?! Awesome....:D

Lythisrose
September 29th, 2008, 08:02 AM
I'm actually rather intrigued. As a fan of both shows, it'd be interesting to see just how they do this.

And a Wraith playing poker... with two Sopranos' Stars?! Awesome....:D

I agree, I love shows like CSI, NCIS, L&O, so this sounds like it could be good. I think Sheppard would make a fine detective, wonder what roles the other characters will play?
And we'll get to see a Wraith's poker face too!

Dr Lee
September 29th, 2008, 08:03 AM
Neil Jackson? Isn't that the same guy who played Anubis' son/Clone in SG-1?

prion
September 29th, 2008, 08:53 AM
AU episode

wraith plays poker with "Sopranos" stars... WTF???

CSI style episode. If I want to watch CSI, I will watch CSI, not a scifi show.

They have Wraith in PG and new enemy. Deal with those story lines.

and what's the meaning of this episode?

It means the writers were running out of ideas;) really, when you start seeing AUs, holodecks, etc. they're like "um, what do we do next?" Ditto with 'homages' (as this one is an homage to CSI, no doubt). Personally, I'm not fond of all the stuntcasting with Sopranos folks. Gah, this sorta reminds of the western Seaquest episode.


I need to remember this episode was written and in the works before it was known that there would be no season 6. I am disappointed, though, that the one "true" Shepisode in S5 was not in the SGA reality. I know the writers have problems writing for Shep, but surely they could have come up with something other than AU.

As has been said, though, this may be a good way for producers of other shows in the works to see that JF would be great in a role that isn't sci fi. They're blind if they don't.

That's the only plus I see is that this will demonstrate JF's non-sci-fi talents. However, it IS disappointing that the show is basically going to go out on an AU episode. AU episodes are, in my opinion, a cheap way to give fans something they want without giving it to them (such as Sam/Jack in SG1 was always in AU) I really wanted a decent Shep episode in the real timeline.


Neil Jackson? Isn't that the same guy who played Anubis' son/Clone in SG-1?

Yes, he's done a number of roles in SG1.

Anyway, sure, this might be pulled off great, but folks who watch it for scifi may go "blech" and change the channel.

GoSpikey
September 29th, 2008, 08:58 AM
Zapping at this time really doesn't matter any more. ;)

Great, such a unique episode.

The true whiners will once again out themselves as such by saying that they didn't need such an episode here, definitely not if they were to put in a different thread something along the lines of 'another same old same old boring Atlantis ep'. ;)

Jumper_One
September 29th, 2008, 10:27 AM
One episode. The finale is only vaguely related to this one and we know for a fact that the finale is set in the regular universe what with Shep flying 302's etc

Disappointing that the Shep episode this year isn't even our Shep but ho hum, still sounds like it could be fun.

what about Remnants?


Don't judge the episode until you've seen it :P

:indeed:


It means the writers were running out of ideas;) really, when you start seeing AUs, holodecks, etc. they're like "um, what do we do next?" Ditto with 'homages' (as this one is an homage to CSI, no doubt). Personally, I'm not fond of all the stuntcasting with Sopranos folks. Gah, this sorta reminds of the western Seaquest episode.

there's an AU ep in s1 of SG-1 (TBFtGoG), are you saying the writers were running out of ideas during SG's first season?

prion
September 29th, 2008, 10:54 AM
there's an AU ep in s1 of SG-1 (TBFtGoG), are you saying the writers were running out of ideas during SG's first season?

there but for the grace of god, was a three-part episode (right?) which actually did make sense. however, creating other AU episodes was just pulling from the same story ideas. AUs, holodecks, same thing. Why can't the writers stick to the 'reality' of the show instead of going "I've always wanted to write a detective drama?" Well, then quit and go write for CSI or its spawn ;)

I still stick with the fact that homages mean they're copying movies/shows. It's not like every other show doesn't do it. Sometimes it works (the groundhog day episode) but other times it doesn't (the ripoff on the russell crowe movie in season 6. hmm, season six copied a lot of movies, actually)

pilgrim soul
September 29th, 2008, 11:00 AM
what about Remnants?


Remnants is not a Sheppard episode its just that we've heard more about his part of the story. Joe Mallozzi has said it is split equally between three plotlines one is Sheppard centric, one is about Woolsey and the third features McKay and Zelenka.

Now I know that some people think that the Sheppard fans are paranoid but we'd kind of hoped that following Broken Ties, The Shrine and The Queen Sheppard's episode would actually be about him not a different John Sheppard.

Having said that I'm prepared to give this one a go, it sounds like fun and I don't mind a well done AU episode now and again.

Jumper_One
September 29th, 2008, 11:42 AM
there but for the grace of god, was a three-part episode (right?) which actually did make sense.

huh? three-part ep? it was one ep, TBFtGoG (http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s1/119.shtml)


however, creating other AU episodes was just pulling from the same story ideas. AUs, holodecks, same thing. Why can't the writers stick to the 'reality' of the show instead of going "I've always wanted to write a detective drama?" Well, then quit and go write for CSI or its spawn ;)

it's just one ep and who knows, maybe you'll like it


I still stick with the fact that homages mean they're copying movies/shows. It's not like every other show doesn't do it.

exactly so what's the big deal?


Sometimes it works (the groundhog day episode) but other times it doesn't (the ripoff on the russell crowe movie in season 6. hmm, season six copied a lot of movies, actually)

Gladiator? whch ep are you talking about? The Changeling (http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s6/619.shtml)?


Remnants is not a Sheppard episode its just that we've heard more about his part of the story. Joe Mallozzi has said it is split equally between three plotlines one is Sheppard centric, one is about Woolsey and the third features McKay and Zelenka.

yeah I know


Now I know that some people think that the Sheppard fans are paranoid but we'd kind of hoped that following Broken Ties, The Shrine and The Queen Sheppard's episode would actually be about him not a different John Sheppard.

I don't ;) :P


Having said that I'm prepared to give this one a go, it sounds like fun and I don't mind a well done AU episode now and again.

same here

Linzi
September 29th, 2008, 01:37 PM
I'll certainly give this a go, but, I have to say, if this is all AU with no link to Atlantis, I'll find it a little strange. How will this fit into the storyline, or won't it? Isn't it meant to? This is just a stand alone AU story which has no link to Atlantis other than all the characters are similar people to the one's in our reality? :confused:

Will it be an AU episode that just 'happens' in the series? We just watch from beginning to end an episode of Atlantis that isn't about that, but has the characters from that show in different sorts of roles?

I have to say though, that I've not been happy with Sheppard's lack of character development so far. I was happy with Search and Rescue for him, The Seed too, even Broken Ties was ok, even though it wasn't about Sheppard. But I'm concerned that the only Sheppard episode of this season isn't actually about 'our' Sheppard. I mean McKay got The Shrine and gets Brain storm. Teyla got The Queen and Ronon Broken Ties. At least those episodes were 'about' them and developing them as characters somehow. If Vegas is AU, and it's not the Sheppard we know, then how can if further his development? It can't. :(

With the spoilers ahead from the midseason two parter onwards, I am very disappointed with what I've heard so far on the Sheppard front, and Vegas appears to be another let down on the Sheppard front as well. Sometimes I really think the writers just have no idea what to do with him. And for the life of me, I can't figure out why that is. :confused:

LoneStar1836
September 29th, 2008, 03:22 PM
huh? three-part ep? it was one ep, TBFtGoG (http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s1/119.shtml)Actually it was a 4-parter. :P

TBFTGOG, Politics, Within the Serpent's Grasp, The Serpent's Lair.

TBFTGOG kicked off the 3 part arc at the end of season one and then the season 2 opener closed it out.

Or at least I view all of those eps as a single grouping all relating to each other even though they don't go "part 1", "part 2", etc.

:)

Jumper_One
September 29th, 2008, 03:26 PM
Actually it was a 4-parter. :P

TBFTGOG, Politics, Within the Serpent's Grasp, The Serpent's Lair.

TBFTGOG kicked off the 3 part arc at the end of season one and then the season 2 opener closed it out.

Or at least I view all of those eps as a single grouping all relating to each other even though they don't go "part 1", "part 2", etc.

:)

oh now I get it, thanks ;) yeah Politics, Within the Serpent's Grasp and The Serpent's Lair wouldn't have happened if Daniel hadn't touched the mirror

LoneStar1836
September 29th, 2008, 03:55 PM
Yeah Daniel and the mirror triggered what was to come next.

But I'm still failing to see how this AU story in Vegas could remotely relate to the bigger picture in "our" Atlantis universe like TBFTGOG did. :S (Other than the possible exception that "our" team somehow learns about how this particular Wraith made it to Earth...which is basically the same thing that happened in TBFTGOG when Daniel learned the gate address of the staging ground for the attack.)

I'd have almost preferred the hallucination/dream scenario because at least that would have been "our" Sheppard and not some AU version.

While I liked Bobby on the Sopranos, I hated Phil. I'd rather have the guy that played Paulie (Tony Sirico). :mckay:

I'm still on the wait and see wagon, but at this point I'm not all that excited about this episode.

Lorr
September 29th, 2008, 04:36 PM
I'll certainly give this a go, but, I have to say, if this is all AU with no link to Atlantis, I'll find it a little strange. How will this fit into the storyline, or won't it? Isn't it meant to? This is just a stand alone AU story which has no link to Atlantis other than all the characters are similar people to the one's in our reality? :confused:

Will it be an AU episode that just 'happens' in the series? We just watch from beginning to end an episode of Atlantis that isn't about that, but has the characters from that show in different sorts of roles?

I have to say though, that I've not been happy with Sheppard's lack of character development so far. I was happy with Search and Rescue for him, The Seed too, even Broken Ties was ok, even though it wasn't about Sheppard. But I'm concerned that the only Sheppard episode of this season isn't actually about 'our' Sheppard. I mean McKay got The Shrine and gets Brain storm. Teyla got The Queen and Ronon Broken Ties. At least those episodes were 'about' them and developing them as characters somehow. If Vegas is AU, and it's not the Sheppard we know, then how can if further his development? It can't. :(

With the spoilers ahead from the midseason two parter onwards, I am very disappointed with what I've heard so far on the Sheppard front, and Vegas appears to be another let down on the Sheppard front as well. Sometimes I really think the writers just have no idea what to do with him. And for the life of me, I can't figure out why that is. :confused:
I agree. I think one of the biggest obstacles may have always been that TPTB don't think that Shep should or can have much character development. Wasn't it BW that said Shep enables the other characters to grow and develop? Shep is already "his own man", he knows who he is and is comfortable with himself. He doesn't need to grow as much as the people around him.

After thinking long and hard (Yes, I am obsessed, but I write fic, so I have to be! :P) about it, I think it's right. His stability and strength of character is what holds everyone up. That said, it would be very interesting to see that strength pushed to the limits and have Shep need to rely on everyone else.

I was kind of hoping Vegas was almost a Wizard of Oz style of AU story, with his team trying to save him. Sigh...dashed hopes and wasted opportunities.

the fifth man
September 29th, 2008, 07:40 PM
I'm going to go into this episode positive. It could end up being really good.

rarocks24
September 30th, 2008, 03:24 PM
BTW, in case anyone is interested in Neil Jackson, he was just spotted as the weekly villain in CSI: Miami.

Infernorhythm
October 1st, 2008, 03:44 PM
Ok, the AU thing sounds like a mixed bag. This could either be a really sweet episode or be a dud.

Yet, Neil Jackson's involvement has me very excited. Loved him in "Prototype" and he was great in Blade the Series. Plus, he's one of my favorite musicians. I look forward to seeing him as a Wraith, even playing poker.

rarocks24
October 1st, 2008, 04:00 PM
Ok, the AU thing sounds like a mixed bag. This could either be a really sweet episode or be a dud.

Yet, Neil Jackson's involvement has me very excited. Loved him in "Prototype" and he was great in Blade the Series. Plus, he's one of my favorite musicians. I look forward to seeing him as a Wraith, even playing poker.
I heard one or two of his songs on his Myspace. Not bad.

Laura Dove
October 2nd, 2008, 02:27 AM
Hey, had anybody seen this piece of spoilers? From http://pokerati.com/2008/10/01/sci-fi-poker/:


Police find a desiccated corpse on a desert road outside Las Vegas, Nevada, the seventh victim of a bizarre serial killer. Detective John Sheppard, called in to assist, is baffled by these murders. Then a clue, traces of radiation found on the bodies, leads him to a strange looking man with super human attributes who easily evades capture.

Some time later, Sheppard is detained and driven to Area 51. There he meets Dr. Rodney McKay who reveals that the suspect is, in fact, an alien - a wraith - who feeds on human energy. What's more, McKay and his team have traveled to Earth from the Pegasus Galaxy, by way of a stargate, to prevent this wraith from compromising the security of the planet. But so far, Sheppard is the only one who's been able to get close to him.

I don't remember reading the spoilers from the second paragraph before.

pilgrim soul
October 2nd, 2008, 02:34 AM
^No I think that is new and confirms what I thought would happen. Thanks for digging this up. :)

Linzi
October 2nd, 2008, 03:40 AM
Hey, had anybody seen this piece of spoilers? From http://pokerati.com/2008/10/01/sci-fi-poker/:



I don't remember reading the spoilers from the second paragraph before.
Thanks for that! I'd not seen that last bit before :)

^No I think that is new and confirms what I thought would happen. Thanks for digging this up. :)

You're just too clever for your own good! :D ;)

Laura Dove
October 2nd, 2008, 03:50 AM
Thanks for that! I'd not seen that last bit before :)

You're welcome. I suspect this McKay is "our" real one, and his team the actual AR-1 (minus Sheppard?)

It's strange how I am both excited about this episode because it looks so weird and fun, and at the same time disappointed to know season 5 will almost end on an alternate universe, probably standalone episode.

GoSpikey
October 2nd, 2008, 04:18 AM
Yes, how dare they do something unique, it's like they just started doing that with this 99th ep... ;)

Laura Dove
October 2nd, 2008, 05:05 AM
Yes, how dare they do something unique, it's like they just started doing that with this 99th ep... ;)

Now that you mention it, last time they tried something unique was "Whispers" and... ahem... The only part that got me excited was when I saw the masked figure and I was all "Hey, Michael!! :D"

Platschu
October 5th, 2008, 08:57 AM
Why do I feel it will be a Men In Black type episode? :p

Infinatus
October 5th, 2008, 12:08 PM
I believe it might be similar to the season 1 episode 'Home'.

melfan
October 5th, 2008, 12:09 PM
because it probably will be

Infernorhythm
October 5th, 2008, 05:47 PM
I heard one or two of his songs on his Myspace. Not bad.

He's supposed to have an album out sometime in the future. I definitely plan on getting it. He's great.

That said, considering how creepy he was as Khalek in Prototype, I can't wait to see him as a Wraith.

Jumper_One
October 6th, 2008, 04:12 PM
Rob Cooper was back from the Vegas shoot looking very tired but very satisfied. What I’ve seen of the episode looks fantastic (a true big screen quality production) and I look forward to watching the finished product. Special Features Producer Ivon Bartok was also on location with them, and he came back with tons of behind-the-scenes footage. And speaking of behind-the-scenes footage, Lawren Bancroft-Wilson was on hand as well to snap some great pics of the shoot - great pics that he has promised to share along with a personal account of the Vegas adventure whenever he finds the time.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/october-6-2008-insomnia-stargate-guests-books-and-mailbag/

prion
October 10th, 2008, 08:31 AM
http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/blogs/article/4606

Fallsview Stargate Atlantis
BY: ROY WINSTON
PUBLISHED: Sunday Sep 07, 2008 08:22 PM

Today I am playing the first day of the Fallsview main event. I played a single table satellite yesterday with Hevad Kahn on my left and Michael Bernstein, who is better known as "MJ" on my right. They have an extremely good structure with 30 minute levels and we were 5 handed after 3 hours when I lost two races and was eliminated. Hevad went out right after me and MJ chopped it with a local. I am looking forward to playing today; I always get sort of an excited feeling about a main event. It will be interesting to see how many players participate. There are 3 day ones, and if last year is a guide, the third will be the busiest. It does seem like numbers are down, and I hear that things are slow at Bellagio, but may pick up now that players are back from Europe and Aruba.

During my blog absence I had a great experience which I will tell you about. I was approached to do a guest appearance on Stargate Atlantis for a poker scene. It was filmed at Planet Hollywood about a week ago and was a fascinating experience for me. Todd Brunson and I were the two poker players involved in the scene, along with two of the stars from the Sopranos, "Bobby," Steve Schirripa, who was the mobster who took care of Junior Soprano and was with Tony's sister and "Phil," Frank Vincent, was played the lieutenant of the New York crime family. .....


REST AT LINK ABOVE

Jumper_One
October 15th, 2008, 04:39 PM
James Bamford Q&A

Patricia Lee writes: [...] 3- Did you go to Las Vegas? If so, what was a memorable moment in shooting there that you can share!

JB- Yes…..VIVA LAS VEGAS!!! Um….I can’t tell you the details other than I am extremely proud of this episode….extremely!!!
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/october-15-2008-stargate-atlantis-stunt-coordinator-james-bam-bam-bamford-takes-your-best-shots/

Ripple in Space
October 16th, 2008, 11:33 PM
James Bamford Q&A

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/october-15-2008-stargate-atlantis-stunt-coordinator-james-bam-bam-bamford-takes-your-best-shots/

Watching Joe F. playing Detective John Shep rather than Lt. Col. John Shep is pretty interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-cJ8zK7ceQ

Risem
October 17th, 2008, 08:26 AM
Looks odd. Why does it say the vid was added last year? o0

Laura Dove
October 17th, 2008, 08:45 AM
Looks odd. Why does it say the vid was added last year? o0

I don't think it's from "Vegas". I suspect it's a montage from scenes with Joe Flanigan in other shows.

melfan
October 17th, 2008, 09:57 AM
It has appeared before on YouTube. First I saw it, it said it was from Last Man, then Search & Rescue. It's from Joe's appearance on Birds of Prey. The poster is trying to be funny, failing misirable.

Ripple in Space
October 17th, 2008, 01:00 PM
It has appeared before on YouTube. First I saw it, it said it was from Last Man, then Search & Rescue. It's from Joe's appearance on Birds of Prey. The poster is trying to be funny, failing misirable.

I'm pretty sure Shep wasn't a detective in "The Last Man" or "Search & Rescue." And what does misirable mean?

pilgrim soul
October 17th, 2008, 02:12 PM
I'm pretty sure Shep wasn't a detective in "The Last Man" or "Search & Rescue." And what does misirable mean?


We all make typos from time to time no need to make a big deal out of it. And melfan is correct, this isn't the first time that someone has tried to pass off this old footage of Joe F as "exclusive spoilers" for an SGA episode. Its really incredibly sad and pathetic when you think about it.

jelgate
October 17th, 2008, 02:48 PM
I have discovered their is no such thing as too low and pathetic when it comes to the Youtube community. Look at some of the garbage on that site

rarocks24
October 17th, 2008, 02:50 PM
Can someone please explain something in this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-cJ8zK7ceQ

I realize that the two Wraith flash scenes are supposed to be replaced with Neil Jackson, but what the hell is up with the fireball?

EDIT: Note, to self, don't go afk for hours and not refresh the page.

Thanks for the answers above. ;)

melfan
October 18th, 2008, 07:35 AM
I'm pretty sure Shep wasn't a detective in "The Last Man" or "Search & Rescue." And what does misirable mean?

English is my second language and sometimes spelling can be hard for me

GoSpikey
October 18th, 2008, 08:26 AM
I pick on people fast, for bad spelling, but I didn't even feel tempted to make a comment about it.

And English is my third language... ;)

melfan
October 18th, 2008, 10:37 AM
Then you understand my problem Spikey

GoSpikey
October 18th, 2008, 01:20 PM
A typo is easily produced... ;)

It wasn't as if you were spelling Asguard, or something... :P

Infinatus
October 18th, 2008, 06:56 PM
I have discovered their is no such thing as too low and pathetic when it comes to the Youtube community. Look at some of the garbage on that site

:indeed:

My question is where did the original footage come from? I remember it coming out around the time of TLM, in fact I believe it may have even been posted on JM's blog at some point.

pilgrim soul
October 19th, 2008, 01:30 AM
^The footage of Joe F is from a guest appearance he did on the short lived (awful) series Birds of Prey.

melfan
October 19th, 2008, 03:00 AM
A typo is easily produced... ;)

It wasn't as if you were spelling Asguard, or something... :P

Yup, and you knew what I meant


^The footage of Joe F is from a guest appearance he did on the short lived (awful) series Birds of Prey.

I've already pointed that out a few posts back

prion
October 22nd, 2008, 04:58 PM
http://www.bclocalnews.com/okanagan_similkameen/pentictonwesternnews/news/Lights_camera_action_for_the_Okanagan.html

Lights, camera, action for the Okanagan

By Holly Miyasaki - Penticton Western News

Published: October 18, 2008 12:00 PM
Updated: October 19, 2008 12:24 AM

It was the lifestyle that brought Hugh McClelland to the South Okanagan, but the growing interest in the area’s filming opportunities have made his life a lot easier.

McClelland, a producer and fledgling writer, said when he moved here he immediately began networking with others involved in the Vancouver or Toronto film industries.

Excerpt:

Along with Summerland came a number of his contacts — and in his time with the commission he’s seen productions like the Hollywood blockbuster The Mummy III, A&E television’s mini-series The Andromeda Strain filmed in Hedley, CBC’s Iron Road in Naramata and television series like X-Weighted, Psych and Mantracker. Most recently Stargate: Atlantis crewmembers utilized the desert area of Osoyoos to create amazing explosions and other special effects for their science fiction series.

REST AT LINK ABOVE

(Oh, they blew up a camper and a truck, used two Cameros (both of which were bought up by a Camero collector - even got the 'bullet riddled' one).

Laura Dove
October 27th, 2008, 12:10 PM
New super hi-res Vegas pics. :D

Darn, is this the wraith whom we are supposed to see shirtless? Hope it'll be after he removes that bad-looking human makeup. :p

dasNdanger
October 27th, 2008, 12:16 PM
New super hi-res Vegas pics. :D

Darn, is this the wraith whom we are supposed to see shirtless? Hope it'll be after he removes that bad-looking human makeup. :p

I dunno. I'd date him. :D

I wonder if he's trying to disguise himself, or if he's the result of some sort of gene therapy/retrovirus, or the offspring of Teyla and Michael... ;)


das

Laura Dove
October 27th, 2008, 12:21 PM
I dunno. I'd date him. :D

Definitely not my type. I prefer their hair a beautiful white, their skin a nice clean green shade, their elegant long black leather coats, and last but not least, their wonderful yellow slitted eyes. :p


I wonder if he's trying to disguise himself, or if he's the result of some sort of gene therapy/retrovirus, or the offspring of Teyla and Michael... ;)

I think the spoilers mention makeup, so I suppose he's trying to disguise himself.

dasNdanger
October 27th, 2008, 01:41 PM
Definitely not my type. I prefer their hair a beautiful white, their skin a nice clean green shade, their elegant long black leather coats, and last but not least, their wonderful yellow slitted eyes. :p



I think the spoilers mention makeup, so I suppose he's trying to disguise himself.


I've always been a sucker for sleazy guys. Goth guys. Rocker guys. Stoner guys. I just like guys who look like they crawled out of the gutter for some reason.

And me, such a good girl. :o


das

GoSpikey
October 27th, 2008, 01:55 PM
If you blow the pic up, you see nostrils, the eyes should be contacts, can't run around looking like that, the hair... If Todd would see... :lol:

He still has his beard, and his feeding hand is covered up with gloves. Hmm.

Should still be a very interesting ep.

GoSpikey
October 27th, 2008, 01:56 PM
Eep! Do you see that pin on his right glove?

Think it goes straight through his hand?

Laura Dove
October 27th, 2008, 02:10 PM
If you blow the pic up, you see nostrils, the eyes should be contacts, can't run around looking like that, the hair... If Todd would see... :lol:
He still has his beard, and his feeding hand is covered up with gloves. Hmm.

The picture is a bit too blurry but does he have eyebrows? I think he does.

Anyway, he could use some fashion lessons from his Pegasus cousins! :D Unlike Das, I prefer their more formal style. :p


Eep! Do you see that pin on his right glove?
Think it goes straight through his hand?

I don't think so. I think it's just outside the leather bracelet?

GoSpikey
October 27th, 2008, 02:27 PM
On a more bright note: I think he's winning.

Must be counting the cards, if you can do that with poker...

jenks
October 27th, 2008, 02:30 PM
You can't ;)

GoSpikey
October 27th, 2008, 02:31 PM
Ah, ok. Haven't played card games in ages. :o

He's just a lucky dog, then. :P

Mamma needs a new hyperdrive! :D

rarocks24
October 28th, 2008, 10:42 AM
I really can't wait for this episode to air. And I wonder if he loses, he couldn't just feed on the guy who won.

And Sheppard needs to shave.

jenks
October 28th, 2008, 10:56 AM
Just seen the new promo pics, looks like Todd is in this one. I was just thinking, does anyone else think this is sounding a lot like SG-1 season 1's last few episodes? Like something happening in an AU that warns our lot of impending doom?

GoSpikey
October 28th, 2008, 10:57 AM
Some new Vegas pics - from Andreas:

http://andreas-ri.livejournal.com/85250.html

Is that Todd? 6 episodes booyah!

Laura Dove
October 28th, 2008, 11:04 AM
Just seen the new promo pics, looks like Todd is in this one. I was just thinking, does anyone else think this is sounding a lot like SG-1 season 1's last few episodes? Like something happening in an AU that warns our lot of impending doom?

I think you're right, considering "Vegas" is supposed to lead to "Enemy at the Gate" without them being an actual continuation of each other.

And yes, Todd, yay!! Even if it's an alternative reality Todd, I'm now even more excited about this episode than I was before. :o He looks prisoner in an isolation cell, though, and not too happy about it. :(

Anubis91
October 28th, 2008, 01:11 PM
I've a theory concerning the picture on which we can see Todd, my thought is that Todd is on earth or in Atlantis (but given the set that is around Todd on the picture, I assume it's earth) and he looks in jail and he makes peolples see things ! that would be for this reason that the wraith making trouble in Vegas is not in our reality !
and thanks to that he learns things from us about earth and the hive ships can make their way to earth ^^

what do you think ?

pilgrim soul
October 28th, 2008, 01:23 PM
^I think its more likely that in this reality Todd is a prisoner in Area 51 and McKay takes Det. Sheppard there to show him what a Wraith is.

Laura Dove
October 28th, 2008, 01:34 PM
I've a theory concerning the picture on which we can see Todd, my thought is that Todd is on earth or in Atlantis (but given the set that is around Todd on the picture, I assume it's earth) and he looks in jail and he makes peolples see things ! that would be for this reason that the wraith making trouble in Vegas is not in our reality !
and thanks to that he learns things from us about earth and the hive ships can make their way to earth ^^

Hasn't it been confirmed that "Vegas" will take place in an alternative reality? Which rules out the possibility of a captive Todd making them experience imaginary events. Moreover, wraith don't have the ability to create such vivid illusions, for what we know (at least not without a device such as in "Phantoms"). They are only making people see ghost-like moving shapes in the corner of their eye.

I doubt very much that Todd intends to attack Earth anyway. Not only did he probably understand that the Atlanteans didn't betray him in "The Lost Tribe", but he also knows how much damage a handful of them did on the wraith. Attacking a planet full of people like that would be suicide.


^I think its more likely that in this reality Todd is a prisoner in Area 51 and McKay takes Det. Sheppard there to show him what a Wraith is.

Agreed. Or the wraith in disguise is the "Todd" of this alternative reality, and they manage to capture him and remove the human makeup.

StarOcean
October 28th, 2008, 02:08 PM
Maybe Vegas will have something to do with what Future!McKay and Future!Lorne were alluding to in The Last Man?

GoSpikey
October 28th, 2008, 02:27 PM
Michael hasn't powered up his hybrids, so a lot of stuff aren't happening the way they were, there...

My guess it's just an ep for fun, and possibly shows us what an individual Wraith would do, should they be on Earth.

pilgrim soul
October 28th, 2008, 02:31 PM
I don't think it'll play into the bigger arc or "our universe" at all, or if it does it'll be a tenuous link. Remember this is a Shep centric episode and I suspect the purpose of it is to show that Sheppard is in some way destined to play a part in the Stargate program/fight against the Wraith - this is just an alternate history of how he becomes part of it all.

StarOcean
October 28th, 2008, 02:40 PM
I don't think it'll play into the bigger arc or "our universe" at all, or if it does it'll be a tenuous link. Remember this is a Shep centric episode and I suspect the purpose of it is to show that Sheppard is in some way destined to play a part in the Stargate program/fight against the Wraith - this is just an alternate history of how he becomes part of it all.

I wonder if that means no Teyla or Ronon in this ep? XD

I find that funny and I have no idea why.

pilgrim soul
October 28th, 2008, 02:46 PM
^Woolsey and Keller are both in it according to the sides - but as this is set on Earth its seems unlikely that Ronon or Teyla will feature.

StarOcean
October 28th, 2008, 02:49 PM
^Woolsey and Keller are both in it according to the sides - but as this is set on Earth its seems unlikely that Ronon or Teyla will feature.

Should we start a betting pool on this? :D

GoSpikey
October 28th, 2008, 02:53 PM
Yet Joe mentioned Teyla is in every episode...

And she already got cut out of one...

Oh wait, perhaps he meant the opening credits. But now Sci Fi started cutting them off, so nope, still no Teyla in every ep. :D

naamiaiset
October 28th, 2008, 02:56 PM
Should we start a betting pool on this? :D

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/09/13/september-13-2008-fans-protest-main-title-compressed-some-questions-addressed/

there's woolsey, mckay and zelenka. let the betting begin! :p

Killjoy_Zero
October 28th, 2008, 07:31 PM
I say Vegas is the best episode of the season aside from how the CSI half meets up with the SGA half.

Wolf O'Donnell
October 28th, 2008, 09:31 PM
What does everyone think about the pictures?

http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=654

atlantis_babe34
October 29th, 2008, 12:41 AM
The wraith looks like a fan boy of a heavy metal band:P:D

Cree
October 29th, 2008, 01:44 AM
teh wraith looks well cool.
the ep looks awesome.
it also looks like it has been directed amazing with good lighting etc. this may become one of my fave eps ever!

nebulan
October 29th, 2008, 04:00 AM
Is it just me, or is this Joel Goldsmith (the awesome music composer for stargate atlantis) ?
http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=654&pos=7

andrewag
October 29th, 2008, 04:19 AM
http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=654&pos=0

*worried* he looks kind of hot - a wraith!

JackHarkness_Hot
October 29th, 2008, 06:45 AM
I agree, usually I'm not into the whole alternative heavy rock look but he does look hot, he almost looks "normal".

I also like the pic of Joe Flannigan running down the corridor with the round wall light shades, he looks hot in this one.

Jedi_Master_Bra'tac
October 29th, 2008, 08:00 AM
Is it just me, or is this Joel Goldsmith (the awesome music composer for stargate atlantis) ?
http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=654&pos=7

I was thinking that

Horray for Todd being in this ep! (http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=654&pos=5)

It'll be interesting to see if this somehow magically ties into the main SG Universe or whether it is completely stand alone.

It's a Cooper, so it should be good.

EternalAlteran
October 29th, 2008, 11:12 AM
Yes it's nice to see him in this episode. Looks like he is revisiting Earth.

GoSpikey
October 29th, 2008, 11:39 AM
I don't think there's time to make it tie in with SGU as well...

Cree
October 29th, 2008, 02:37 PM
it is joel goldsmith it says so.

the wraith does look oddly hot lol!

ps. the guy who plays him played khalek in sg1 season 9!

Bizzare Star
October 29th, 2008, 02:48 PM
Is it just me, or is this Joel Goldsmith (the awesome music composer for stargate atlantis) ?
http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=654&pos=7

Yuppers, the caption says so! I love his glasses...

Also, I have to agree with everyone else... That wraith looks oddly hot.

Killdeer
October 29th, 2008, 05:24 PM
^Woolsey and Keller are both in it according to the sides - but as this is set on Earth its seems unlikely that Ronon or Teyla will feature.

I agree - if they are in it, their parts will likely be small. If it were some sort of dream reality like Teal's fireman AU in The Changling, it would be more likely that they were there in some changed role, but this looks like it will take place in a real parallel universe, which means in that reality they're probably still in the Pegasus galaxy.


Yet Joe mentioned Teyla is in every episode...

And she already got cut out of one...

Oh wait, perhaps he meant the opening credits. But now Sci Fi started cutting them off, so nope, still no Teyla in every ep. :D

Actually, I think she's been cut out of two, hasn't she? She wasn't in Whispers or Tracker. I don't expect to see her in Brain Storm either.

Jumper_One
October 30th, 2008, 04:48 PM
Jean writes: “could we get an update of the spoiler poem? Also, is Vegas a “stand-alone” episode or will it tie into the season (and series) finale?”

Answer: Vegas is more or less a stand-alone episode, although the events of this episode will have repercussions.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/10/30/october-30-2008-author-john-twelve-hawks-answers-your-questions/

BigR
October 30th, 2008, 06:12 PM
this episode will make me face palm for 43 minutes.

GoSpikey
October 31st, 2008, 02:40 AM
No one will force you to watch it.

jenks
October 31st, 2008, 03:41 AM
this episode will make me face palm for 43 minutes.

Good, maybe you'll knock some sense into yourself.

GoSpikey
October 31st, 2008, 04:39 AM
I don't get it. People cry out at the 'non-unique' episodes, and when one finally comes along, they complain about *that*...

If they don't like, then shut down the telly, the forum, and go on with your life. :)

melfan
October 31st, 2008, 09:26 AM
I don't get it. People cry out at the 'non-unique' episodes, and when one finally comes along, they complain about *that*...

If they don't like, then shut down the telly, the forum, and go on with your life. :)

Well said

GoSpikey
October 31st, 2008, 09:46 AM
Especially in the end-phase of the show. :( :( :(

melfan
October 31st, 2008, 09:50 AM
wishes there would be more seasons *sigh* :(

GoSpikey
October 31st, 2008, 12:11 PM
*Starts crying*

Vegas is going to be nice, though.

I'm looking forward to possibly seeing Todd a bit more feral. :P

It's a unique opportunity for Chris! :D

melfan
October 31st, 2008, 12:12 PM
I'm just interested in seeing a different side of Sheppard ;) :D

GoSpikey
October 31st, 2008, 12:43 PM
His backside? :P

Fenrir Foxz
October 31st, 2008, 01:09 PM
I'm just interested in seeing a different side of Sheppard ;) :D

His backside? :P

:rolleyes: :p

GoSpikey
October 31st, 2008, 02:40 PM
I swear I dunno where that came from!

But since we only see his front one, well... ;)

Jumper_One
October 31st, 2008, 06:49 PM
Rachael writes: “ Joe, can you confirm whether or not Teyla and/or Ronon will be in Vegas?”

Answer: I can confirm that they will not be in Vegas.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/october-31-2008-the-next-round-of-book-of-the-month-club-picks-upcoming-guests-and-the-mailbag/

rarocks24
October 31st, 2008, 06:52 PM
/cry

No Teyla makes me a very sad panda.

Killdeer
October 31st, 2008, 07:29 PM
That's not quite a clear answer. He said they will not be in Vegas - does that mean they're not in the episode Vegas or they will not be in Vegas when they appear in the episode?

Wasn't there something awhile back about Jason being disappointed that he didn't get to go to Vegas to film any scenes? That might possibly imply that he filmed scenes elsewhere for the episode. But maybe not.

GoSpikey
November 1st, 2008, 03:28 AM
I think the ep would be AU from beginning to start, to make you go all 'huh? is this the right show?'

melfan
November 1st, 2008, 06:32 AM
His backside? :P

:P :rolleyes:


I swear I dunno where that came from!

But since we only see his front one, well... ;)

It gives me a chance to drool over his.. uhm.. ass ;) :D


I think the ep would be AU from beginning to start, to make you go all 'huh? is this the right show?'

I think so too

rarocks24
November 1st, 2008, 08:05 AM
You mean like a what could have happened instead of a what did happen?

melfan
November 1st, 2008, 08:13 AM
Exactly

GoSpikey
November 1st, 2008, 08:44 AM
I mean, that it's something wacko from start to end. Maybe they'll even change the looks of the opening credits, like the musical Buffy the Vampire Slayer did? They even changed the theme back then.

melfan
November 1st, 2008, 08:57 AM
The opening credits that aren't?

GoSpikey
November 1st, 2008, 12:14 PM
Lol, yes, those. :P

Jumper_One
November 1st, 2008, 07:32 PM
Mellow Yellow also writes: “So my man Ronon and my girl Teyla won’t be in the episode Vegas?”

Answer: They will not.
http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/11/01/november-1-2008-kolya-on-line-one/

jelgate
November 1st, 2008, 07:44 PM
Are you mad? Linda will now go on a rampage.

Fenrir Foxz
November 1st, 2008, 07:54 PM
Are you mad? Linda will now go on a rampage.

Only when she finds out ;) and I'm not going to be the one to say anything. :p

GoSpikey
November 2nd, 2008, 01:28 AM
Quickly, we must bury this post! :P

melfan
November 2nd, 2008, 01:30 AM
Lol, yes, those. :P

But only for the US viewers... Was the opening credits cut after The Shrine or Ghost in a Machine?

Fandom Addict
November 2nd, 2008, 04:48 AM
Also, I have to agree with everyone else... That wraith looks oddly hot.

I agree too, but not oddly hot, just really hot. :wraith37:

Am quite looking forward to this episode, and not just because of the Wraith. ;)

jelgate
November 2nd, 2008, 04:57 AM
I believe it was The Queen

melfan
November 2nd, 2008, 07:24 AM
Oh, okey, well I'm European so I might get to see the credits, if it was only the Sci-Fi Channel that scrapped the intro

GateMan2000
November 2nd, 2008, 07:31 AM
Why do the credits matter lol. Most of the time if I Tivo it, i just fast foward past all of that junk.

Dr Lee
November 2nd, 2008, 07:35 AM
Skight off topic comment here.... Anyone Spot Neil Jackson in Quantum of Solace?

No prize if you do

melfan
November 2nd, 2008, 07:58 AM
Haven't seen it yet

Linda06
November 2nd, 2008, 09:23 AM
Are you mad? Linda will now go on a rampage.

http://www.smilescollection.com/smiles/violent/sc_14511.gif I am sick of SGA, I'm sick of Teyla and Ronon always getting the short end of the stick, I'm sick of the whole thing :mckay:


Oh, okey, well I'm European so I might get to see the credits, if it was only the Sci-Fi Channel that scrapped the intro

I'm from the UK and SGA gets shown on sky 1 here and they still show the full intro at the beginning!

melfan
November 2nd, 2008, 09:27 AM
http://www.smilescollection.com/smiles/violent/sc_14511.gif I am sick of SGA, I'm sick of Teyla and Ronon always getting the short end of the stick, I'm sick of the whole thing :mckay:

Why have to aliens when you have two people from Earth? :rolleyes:


I'm from the UK and SGA gets shown on sky 1 here and they still show the full intro at the beginning!

Am I correct when I guess that UK air their eps just a few days after US?

Linda06
November 2nd, 2008, 09:40 AM
Why have to aliens when you have two people from Earth? :rolleyes:

I dunno.....I gave up trying to figure out what goes on in TPTB's minds :S



Am I correct when I guess that UK air their eps just a few days after US?

Well we were onlt a few weeks behind but after SGA being missing from certain weks we've caught up, now I think we're only an ep behind!

melfan
November 2nd, 2008, 09:44 AM
I dunno.....I gave up trying to figure out what goes on in TPTB's minds :S

Best not try, too headacheindusing :rolleyes: :P


Well we were only a few weeks behind but after SGA being missing from certain weks we've caught up, now I think we're only an ep behind!

Cool! We have reached so far as Whispers that will air next week

Pharaoh Atem
November 2nd, 2008, 10:09 AM
I dunno.....I gave up trying to figure out what goes on in TPTB's minds :S
!

i'm with you the pics from this ep are making me wonder how this season was supposed to end???

Linda06
November 2nd, 2008, 10:52 AM
Best not try, too headacheindusing :rolleyes: :P


Ain't that the truth :S


i'm with you the pics from this ep are making me wonder how this season was supposed to end???

I don't even recognise the show any more.....There's no team any more :(

g.o.d
November 2nd, 2008, 10:53 AM
Ain't that the truth :S



I don't even recognise the show any more.....There's no team any more :(

there's Keller

melfan
November 2nd, 2008, 11:13 AM
Ain't that the truth :S

*Takes aspririn*


I don't even recognise the show any more.....There's no team any more :(

It should be renamed the Shep and McKay show


there's Keller

Doesn't count

Fenrir Foxz
November 2nd, 2008, 11:20 AM
The team has been broken up so much this season to film a couple of episodes at a time, with the tight schedule to get the episodes ready for the summer it makes sense they did that.


It should be renamed the Shep and McKay show

People have been saying that since S4, possibly even before then and both Shep and McKay are the two main characters of SGA, though it would be better to have more Teyla and Ronon around.

melfan
November 2nd, 2008, 11:25 AM
The team has been broken up so much this season to film a couple of episodes at a time, with the tight schedule to get the episodes ready for the summer it makes sense they did that.

Would things look different if the shedule hadn't been so tight? Or would the end result have ended the same?


People have been saying that since S4, possibly even before then and both Shep and McKay are the two main characters of SGA, though it would be better to have more Teyla and Ronon around.

People are right about that...

Fenrir Foxz
November 2nd, 2008, 11:36 AM
Would things look different if the shedule hadn't been so tight? Or would the end result have ended the same?

That depends on what TPTB planned out for the season, but Teyla and Ronon getting wallpapered when they are part of the team or dropped from episodes would still happen anyway so I don't think much would have changed.


People are right about that...

As long as people see that it isn't a new trend with S5 and Keller being made a regular, that was the case before this season and there is no guarantee that if Keller wasn't a regular Teyla or Ronon would be included more with the team either.

Linda06
November 2nd, 2008, 11:44 AM
there's Keller

:mckay:

Lythisrose
November 2nd, 2008, 11:52 AM
*It should be renamed the Shep and McKay show

The Shep and McKay show has been off the air this entire season.
(Edit: other than The Shrine)

rarocks24
November 2nd, 2008, 03:48 PM
The Shep and McKay show has been off the air this entire season.
But not the Mckay show. No, we've had plenty of that this season.

GoSpikey
November 3rd, 2008, 02:22 PM
Well, David is getting paid for it, so better use him.

Mitchell82
November 3rd, 2008, 08:29 PM
But not the Mckay show. No, we've had plenty of that this season.

Not a problem for me I like Rodney.

Linda06
November 4th, 2008, 01:55 PM
Well, David is getting paid for it, so better use him.

The others are getting paid too so why don't they use them too :p

jelgate
November 4th, 2008, 02:05 PM
The others are getting paid too so why don't they use them too :pMagnets:P

Linda06
November 4th, 2008, 02:09 PM
Magnets:P

ah magnets..Well that explains everything ;)

jelgate
November 4th, 2008, 02:18 PM
ah magnets..Well that explains everything ;)Everything can be explainied by magnets with the exception of beets.

Linda06
November 4th, 2008, 02:21 PM
Everything can be explainied by magnets with the exception of beets.

Why can't beets be explained by magnets?

melfan
November 4th, 2008, 02:28 PM
They are obviously immune :P

jelgate
November 4th, 2008, 02:35 PM
Why can't beets be explained by magnets?Have you ever eaten these vile vegetables?

Linda06
November 4th, 2008, 02:36 PM
Have you ever eaten these vile vegetables?

Nope :D I don't like the look of them :S

StarOcean
November 4th, 2008, 02:56 PM
Nope :D I don't like the look of them :S

But they're good for you! And they're good for making sugar!