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Cam_Mitchell
April 13th, 2008, 07:15 AM
I really think that Atlantis should be disconnected from earth... i hate it now it can get anything it wants from earth whenever it wants it....

Julie
April 13th, 2008, 07:16 AM
I really think that Atlantis should be disconnected from earth... i hate it now it can get anything it wants from earth whenever it wants it....

how so??? the midway station is gone ....and it only has 1 zpm

Cam_Mitchell
April 13th, 2008, 07:19 AM
how so??? the midway station is gone ....and it only has 1 zpm

The wraith making some crazy contraption which can stop ships reaching atlantis... so it can go back to the old days [season 1 style]

silly sally
April 13th, 2008, 07:21 AM
Actually it's simple - introduce a new threat into Milky Way and tie up all our ships...

Cam_Mitchell
April 13th, 2008, 07:25 AM
Actually it's simple - introduce a new threat into Milky Way and tie up all our ships...

Genius, why is your username silly sally it should be Genius Sally LOL!

jelgate
April 13th, 2008, 07:33 AM
Genius, why is your username silly sally it should be Genius Sally LOL!

Because even when we had the Ori who were more of a threat than the Goa'uld, we still had a ship traveling to Atlantis.

rens14
April 13th, 2008, 11:46 AM
I think it would be nice if 2 ships (apollo, deadalus) would be stuck in pegasus and there is no way in or out not a wormehole or hyperspace that way they are disconnected but still have ships

SGFerrit
April 13th, 2008, 11:57 AM
No... We're going into the expedition's fifth year now, and to cut them off would be unrealistic and a massive step backwards. It would stagnate the show IMO. After all that has happened, Earth would never be cut off from Atlantis. They have three ZPMs, 1 at Atlantis and two in the Milky Way, and three ships, soon to be four probably, capable of going backwards and forwards.

Fact is, they aren't cutting them off, even if people want them too.

silly sally
April 13th, 2008, 12:04 PM
Because even when we had the Ori who were more of a threat than the Goa'uld, we still had a ship traveling to Atlantis.

The Ori were a sham! They never attacked us with all their might! Heck even in AoT 7 Ori ships conveniently waited until Sg-1 found the Ark and neutralized Adria :confused:

SGFerrit
April 13th, 2008, 12:10 PM
I think it would be nice if 2 ships (apollo, deadalus) would be stuck in pegasus and there is no way in or out not a wormehole or hyperspace that way they are disconnected but still have ships

That makes no sense though. I know this is a show about Stargates, but that...

dasNdanger
April 13th, 2008, 12:52 PM
I would LOVE for Atlantis to be cut off from earth - no gate, not hyperspace - and make them fend for themselves, like in the beginning of S1. I think there should have been no communication, or assistance, from earth for the first two seasons...things just got too easy for them once they had access to all things earth.

A perfect scenario for me would be to see a situation arise where earth believes Atlantis, and all in it, are destroyed. The gate would have to be taken out of operation, but hyperspace poses a problem. The only way I see for earth NOT to return to the PG (to check on Atlantis) would be if they absolutely believed Atlantis destroyed, and whatever destroyed it (Wraith, new enemy, etc) was too huge a threat to risk returning.

This would force the Lanteans to fend for themselves. They wouldn't be so invincible (something that irritates me now). They may be forced to continue alliances with the likes of Todd, just to survive in the face of new enemies and dangers. They'd have to go easy with their ammo, with their food supplies, with everything. It would be great to see an entire season where the Lanteans are 'dead' to earth, and Pegasus is all but forgot.

THEN have something major-bad happen - NOT to the Lanteans, but to earth - and somehow, someway, a rag-tag team of Lanteans (maybe with help from Todd for added flavor), manage to make it back to earth to stop whatever the major-bad thing that is happening from happening.

And after the dusts clears, the SGC/IOA look at the Lanteans with this 'where the hell did YOU guys come from - and WHAT'S up with the creepy green guy with you' look on their faces.

Yeah, I'd like something like that...


das

Hallnavy
April 13th, 2008, 03:33 PM
I must admit that it was kinda nice when Atlantis was cut off from Earth. It forced us to depend on each other....It was nice...
But there is almost no way that they can cut us off again....

dasNdanger
April 13th, 2008, 04:00 PM
Eh, anything's possible with the right plot, and a creative imagination.

Only problem is how it would play out in the long run. It could limit story possibilities, and would definitely limit SG1 guest star appearances. It could allow space to introduce new characters/species/civilizations, and develop more fully those that already exist. It would seriously limit ship-to-ship confrontations (unless the Lanteans got real chummy with the Travellers, or even the Wraith...or found another Ancient ship somewhere).

If the series got picked up for a sixth season, I certainly wouldn't mind seeing it be an isolated Atlantis season, since I find all the earth interaction a bit...annoying.

das

KindlyKeller
April 13th, 2008, 04:06 PM
I agree that it was a huge shame they reestablished contact with Earth so quickly, but there's no going back to that now. It wouldn't work.

kali1
April 13th, 2008, 05:29 PM
I would LOVE for Atlantis to be cut off from earth - no gate, not hyperspace - and make them fend for themselves, like in the beginning of S1. I think there should have been no communication, or assistance, from earth for the first two seasons...things just got too easy for them once they had access to all things earth.

A perfect scenario for me would be to see a situation arise where earth believes Atlantis, and all in it, are destroyed. The gate would have to be taken out of operation, but hyperspace poses a problem. The only way I see for earth NOT to return to the PG (to check on Atlantis) would be if they absolutely believed Atlantis destroyed, and whatever destroyed it (Wraith, new enemy, etc) was too huge a threat to risk returning.

This would force the Lanteans to fend for themselves. They wouldn't be so invincible (something that irritates me now). They may be forced to continue alliances with the likes of Todd, just to survive in the face of new enemies and dangers. They'd have to go easy with their ammo, with their food supplies, with everything. It would be great to see an entire season where the Lanteans are 'dead' to earth, and Pegasus is all but forgot.

THEN have something major-bad happen - NOT to the Lanteans, but to earth - and somehow, someway, a rag-tag team of Lanteans (maybe with help from Todd for added flavor), manage to make it back to earth to stop whatever the major-bad thing that is happening from happening.

And after the dusts clears, the SGC/IOA look at the Lanteans with this 'where the hell did YOU guys come from - and WHAT'S up with the creepy green guy with you' look on their faces.

Yeah, I'd like something like that...


das

Great idea. I like! :)

jelgate
April 13th, 2008, 05:39 PM
The Ori were a sham! They never attacked us with all their might! Heck even in AoT 7 Ori ships conveniently waited until Sg-1 found the Ark and neutralized Adria :confused:

And that is relevant how:S Earth saw them as a huge threat and still sent ships to Atlantis

Jackie
April 13th, 2008, 05:54 PM
I'd rather Atlantis had gotten a ZPM in the end of the first season, sent most of the expedition home to earth and cut the city down to a skeleton crew, that was supposed to take the city into hyperspace and relocate to another planet.

For some reason, navigation computer prob or space anomaly or such, the city doesn't make it to the designated planet. They are forced to set down on another uncharted planet or moon, the ZPM is drained and they are too far out to establish any communications.

The city is now run by a handful of people:

Weir, Beckett, Sheppard,Teyla, Ford, Lorne, Zelenka.

the seven of them are alone and now have to rely on each other for support. They could have meet Ronon the runner and they agreed to help each other.

SGC has lost the city and starts a search party. At that point in the series tptb could show the ship searching for them and every so often we get intro. to the search party that always just misses the missing team with the city.

Mitchell82
April 13th, 2008, 08:46 PM
I really think that Atlantis should be disconnected from earth... i hate it now it can get anything it wants from earth whenever it wants it....

I think having it the way it is now is the best. No midway, battle cruisers with a two week travel time, and only one ZPM. Maybe have our ZPM get depleted but that's it.

KindlyKeller
April 13th, 2008, 11:46 PM
I'd rather Atlantis had gotten a ZPM in the end of the first season, sent most of the expedition home to earth and cut the city down to a skeleton crew, that was supposed to take the city into hyperspace and relocate to another planet.

For some reason, navigation computer prob or space anomaly or such, the city doesn't make it to the designated planet. They are forced to set down on another uncharted planet or moon, the ZPM is drained and they are too far out to establish any communications.

The city is now run by a handful of people:

Weir, Beckett, Sheppard,Teyla, Ford, Lorne, Zelenka.

the seven of them are alone and now have to rely on each other for support. They could have meet Ronon the runner and they agreed to help each other.

SGC has lost the city and starts a search party. At that point in the series tptb could show the ship searching for them and every so often we get intro. to the search party that always just misses the missing team with the city.

I assume McKay dies a coward's death along the way?

pbellosom
April 14th, 2008, 03:27 AM
I would LOVE for Atlantis to be cut off from earth - no gate, not hyperspace - and make them fend for themselves, like in the beginning of S1. I think there should have been no communication, or assistance, from earth for the first two seasons...things just got too easy for them once they had access to all things earth.

A perfect scenario for me would be to see a situation arise where earth believes Atlantis, and all in it, are destroyed. The gate would have to be taken out of operation, but hyperspace poses a problem. The only way I see for earth NOT to return to the PG (to check on Atlantis) would be if they absolutely believed Atlantis destroyed, and whatever destroyed it (Wraith, new enemy, etc) was too huge a threat to risk returning.

This would force the Lanteans to fend for themselves. They wouldn't be so invincible (something that irritates me now). They may be forced to continue alliances with the likes of Todd, just to survive in the face of new enemies and dangers. They'd have to go easy with their ammo, with their food supplies, with everything. It would be great to see an entire season where the Lanteans are 'dead' to earth, and Pegasus is all but forgot.

THEN have something major-bad happen - NOT to the Lanteans, but to earth - and somehow, someway, a rag-tag team of Lanteans (maybe with help from Todd for added flavor), manage to make it back to earth to stop whatever the major-bad thing that is happening from happening.

And after the dusts clears, the SGC/IOA look at the Lanteans with this 'where the hell did YOU guys come from - and WHAT'S up with the creepy green guy with you' look on their faces.

Yeah, I'd like something like that...


das

A great idea. I also want to see Atlantis cut off from the Earth, I feel the show worked so much better that way and I sincerely hope that when Universe comes they will be cut off from Earth (The spoilers we currently have means it could still go either way).

Another idea that was tossed around a lot last year when Weir was still in command but with the IOA annoyed with her was for the IOA to have attempted to remove Weir from command causing Sheppard and McKay to launch a rebellion and set Atlantis up as separate from Earth. Of course at this point they still had ZPMs so the Earth ships coming to retake Atlantis would be unable to penetrate the shields, I would have loved to have seen that arc but there's no way it can happen now.

Jackie
April 14th, 2008, 06:50 AM
I assume McKay dies a coward's death along the way?

Thought I had mckay's name down too. But since you suggested it...I would kill off mckay...exploding tumor should do it.

KindlyKeller
April 14th, 2008, 07:56 AM
Thought I had mckay's name down too. But since you suggested it...I would kill off mckay...exploding tumor should do it.

Lol!

Valos Cor
April 14th, 2008, 06:00 PM
I have a fantastic idea for This disconnection . . The daedulus and the apollos hyperdrives are damaged extremly bad , and earth doesn't have a ZPM, so they'll be stuck in orbit around Atlantis :) . that for me would be so cool . . and then they could add a whole story line , where atlantis is looking for supplies and equipment to fix the hyperdrives . .

^^ perfect way to do it imo. or the deaulus' hyperdrive is fried out , the apollo is destoried , or its hyperdrive is not replaceable. becuase its too damaged.

PG15
April 14th, 2008, 07:41 PM
They'd still have the Odyssey, and Earth has 2 ZPMs with which to dial Atlantis directly.

Cory Holmes
April 14th, 2008, 07:45 PM
It's easy to disconnect Earth from Atlantis. Have Atlantis experience a power surge (complete with sparkings and lack of fuses) that destroys the Eight-Chevron dialing crystal. Without that control crystal, a Stargate is limited to local calls.

Add that to the IOA deciding that after the events of Midway, a direct Earth to Pegasus connection is just too much of a security risk, even with iris' and all that (this is the IOA. They've made stupid decisions like this before.). That would limit any contact with Earth to the visit of the BC-304s, which wouldn't be that often.