I thought the Asgard gave us ALL their technology...

[Hallnavy]

If so then why don't we have their hyper-drives. I know that many of you say that we do, but when you think about it I don't think we do. I mean when we were first introduced to the Asgard ships, they were crazy fast. I think it was the first time we were on one of their ships they traveled from their galaxy to Earth in only a matter of minutes. I mean I may be wrong, because I haven't seen the early episodes in forever, but I think I'm right.
Another example of this was in the episode "Thor's Chariot". Because in that episode we told Thor that the planet was under attack, he said that he was unable to help. It would make sense that they weren't close to the planet, they had no need to be. They traveled quick from where ever they were, I'm sure it was their galaxy, to the planet quick.....

So why do you think our ships don't travel that fast?

[RepliVeggie]

Because when they were writing that episode they didn't consider future episodes and story and pull a stupid.

[Raj_2006]

lack of power i surppose.

[RepliVeggie]

lack of power i surppose.

naw Odyssey has a ZPM it would be even faster then any Asgard ship.

[Tupopoflungo]

Has anyone here considered distance, the gap between the Milky Way galaxy and the Pegasus galaxy is MASSIVE, so massive that they needed 39 some odd gates to bridge across it, and that is at maximum safe distance without an external power source. It is quite possible that the Ida galaxy is much closer to Milky Way than Pegasus, is it not? Also, it was never established where in either galaxy thor was at the time...so he could have been at the very edge of IDA and cimmerria might have been near the edge of milky way...cutting time significantly

[2ndgenerationalteran]

An oniell can get from atlantis to earth in the same time it took the daedalus with a ZPM, it seems like it was a power issue.

[immhotep]

Plus the Asgard ships didnt go THAT fast. They went from Earth, to the Void, not to another galaxy. A significantly shorter trip. In fact its roughly 2000 Light years. Now we know that our hyperrives are capable of those speeds, our normal hyperdrives go at 115LY per minute. With a ZPM they travel at 520LY per minute, that means the ASgard and the Oddesey could do the trip to the void in just over 4 minutes. We do have thier hyperdrives.

[2ndgenerationalteran]

Asgard hyperdrives never traveled from galaxy to galaxy in seconds, its been shown taking hours but never minutes or seconds. Just as a clarification. Not in Thor's Chariot, not in Prometeus, not in Natural Selection.

[peragrin]

The Asgard gave us the Blueprints, Technical Specifications, and Theories of Scientific Knowledge.

The only Tech that the Asgard gave us where the Original Beam weapons for the Oddy, and a computer core with all that data in it.

If I handed you a laptop with the blueprints for a Nuclear aircraft carrier with revolutionary nuclear reactor designs and weapon systems, as well as all the art, music, and science you could ever think about just how fast could you build that carrier?

They built the beam weapons. they may have finally made limited matter conversion replication for food and air supplies. Gutting a 304 to install a couple of massive neutrino Ion generators isn't an overnight software upgrade. It is the kind of project that takes years to complete.

[SpinningChevron]

The Asgard gave us the Blueprints, Technical Specifications, and Theories of Scientific Knowledge.

The only Tech that the Asgard gave us where the Original Beam weapons for the Oddy, and a computer core with all that data in it.

If I handed you a laptop with the blueprints for a Nuclear aircraft carrier with revolutionary nuclear reactor designs and weapon systems, as well as all the art, music, and science you could ever think about just how fast could you build that carrier?

They built the beam weapons. they may have finally made limited matter conversion replication for food and air supplies. Gutting a 304 to install a couple of massive neutrino Ion generators isn't an overnight software upgrade. It is the kind of project that takes years to complete.

Exactly, we have the information just not the means to put it into action, we probably won't get anything significant out of the Asgard core for about two to three decades.

[a6346]

we did get everything they had but the agard engine they gave us was the most efficient one they had that would work on our ships, bigger more powerful hyperdrives require more power, better structural intergrity and other minor systems would have to be improved so with a zpm it is still effective just not asmuch as an entire ship designed around the engine like the asgard ships are.

[wkw427]

Think about this.

You have a light bulb, and a small battery.

The small battery doesn't make the bulb glow bright enough. The wires glow, but not al0t of light is produced. The batters is our power source and the bulb the asgard drive.

Now if you hook it up to a nuclear reactor, the light would be blinding. That is the asgard power source/zpm

[Angelgrinder]

I can't remember it ever being mentioned, but what powersource does the Asgard use?

[blackcat124gt]

Has anyone here considered distance, the gap between the Milky Way galaxy and the Pegasus galaxy is MASSIVE, so massive that they needed 39 some odd gates to bridge across it, and that is at maximum safe distance without an external power source. It is quite possible that the Ida galaxy is much closer to Milky Way than Pegasus, is it not? Also, it was never established where in either galaxy thor was at the time...so he could have been at the very edge of IDA and cimmerria might have been near the edge of milky way...cutting time significantly

Well that is possible for that explains why O'Neill was able to dial back to Earth with a basic gate + DHD. The reason why it required more power at the SGC was probably due to the fact they power the gate manually. It could be that some DHDs give enough power to dial to a close galaxies. The Ida Galaxy may have been close, but due to the fact the writers didn't make a map on how close it is we don't really know. It would have to be fairly close even with the constant movement of the universe.

[Blitzwing]

The Ida Galaxy may have been close, but due to the fact the writers didn't make a map on how close it is we don't really know. It would have to be fairly close even with the constant movement of the universe.

Actually, evidence from "Prometheus" and "Unnatural Selection" puts Ida several million light years away. In "Prometheus" the promotheus was stranded 1200 ly away from Earth. In "Unnatutal Selection" Thor towed the Prometheus back to Earth in about 5 seconds.

Thor then proceded towards Ida with the Promtheus in tow, and said the journey would take many hours. Travelling at 1200 ly every 5 seconds, gives the O'Neill a speed of 846000 ly an hour.

Thor also said towing the Prometheus was greatly slowing his ship down, so it seems Asgard ships are capable of even faster travel.