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Pharaoh Atem
March 4th, 2008, 06:58 AM
I personal think it's safe to say fords dead and the fans keep sayin "we want ford back" but i feel that the reason TPTB are bring it a new lower ranking character is to bring back the feeling ford did.....

anyone else agree??

The.Road.Not.Taken
March 4th, 2008, 07:04 AM
I personal think it's safe to say fords dead and the fans keep sayin "we want ford back" but i feel that the reason TPTB are bring it a new lower ranking character is to bring back the feeling ford did.....

anyone else agree??

yh definatly the TPTB know that they don't want ford back so they made a new charatcher just to please the fans ( LETS HOPE:D:D:D) hopefully she has the same bad-ass quality as ford did

ShadowMaat
March 4th, 2008, 07:40 AM
Kinda makes you wonder... If Ford had breasts, would he have been written off the show? :P

GATEGOD
March 4th, 2008, 07:42 AM
I think tptb are idiotic in what they have done with not bringing back ford when there have been so many oportunities to do so. That being said, I love everything else they have done but their choice to not have him return will only make me hate any charcter they hope can replace him no matter how likeable said charcter may be becuase I am stubborn and loyal.


Kinda makes you wonder... If Ford had breasts, would he have been written off the show? :P

That would be a no.

Vala_M
March 4th, 2008, 07:49 AM
Can someone answer me this? I don't have time to dig through dozens of pages of discussion? WHY was she renamed from Alison Porter? I preferred that name better.

Vala,

Jackie
March 4th, 2008, 07:55 AM
Kinda makes you wonder... If Ford had breasts, would he have been written off the show? :P

I think that would depend on size...Wier was still written off. Now, if Wier had the body of a supermodel...would she have been written off or just have a costume change?

Jackie
March 4th, 2008, 07:56 AM
Can someone answer me this? I don't have time to dig through dozens of pages of discussion? WHY was she renamed from Alison Porter? I preferred that name better.

Vala,

I think Alicia Vega is the actress's name. Though lt. Vega sounds really cool.

SGFerrit
March 4th, 2008, 08:23 AM
If Ford had breasts, would he have been written off the show? :P

No, he never would have gotten on the show, and they would have just hired a woman instead:)

SGFerrit
March 4th, 2008, 08:25 AM
I think Alicia Vega is the actress's name. Though lt. Vega sounds really cool.

The actress is called Leela Sevasta.

vjlax18
March 4th, 2008, 09:12 AM
She's probably there to replace Teyla is the story arc with the baby means someone has to be a mommy and not a warrior princess...

The.Road.Not.Taken
March 4th, 2008, 09:23 AM
She's probably there to replace Teyla is the story arc with the baby means someone has to be a mommy and not a warrior princess...

terla anit being replace:D i dnt want her to this charatcher is not joining shpards team

EH-T
March 4th, 2008, 09:29 AM
I personal think it's safe to say fords dead and the fans keep sayin "we want ford back" but i feel that the reason TPTB are bring it a new lower ranking character is to bring back the feeling ford did.....

anyone else agree??

Interesting thought. Not sure if I agree. Isn't part of the reason the character was created to even up the male/female ratio a bit now that Woolsey has become leader instead of :sam: and:weir:?

The.Road.Not.Taken
March 4th, 2008, 09:31 AM
Interesting thought. Not sure if I agree. Isn't part of the reason the character was created to even up the male/female ratio a bit now that Woolsey has become leader instead of :sam: and:weir:?

quite possible on TPTB know why she was brought it:D

The_Carpenter
March 4th, 2008, 10:08 AM
Can someone answer me this? I don't have time to dig through dozens of pages of discussion? WHY was she renamed from Alison Porter? I preferred that name better.

Vala,

They decided to use the Alison Porter name for a scientist who appears in season 5 (dunno how many eps may just be 1). Most likely there was an issue with there already being a Captain Alison Porter either in the air force or in another media production

Jackie
March 4th, 2008, 12:24 PM
The actress is called Leela Sevasta.

never heard of her!

Skydiver
March 4th, 2008, 01:48 PM
it's quite common for characters to be renamed during hte writing process. names have to be run through legal to make sure that whole 'not based on a real person' can be accurate.

for example, pete shanahan was originally supposed to be a reporter, but there was a real pete shanahan working for a tv station, so he became a cop instead.

walter harriman/davis/norman has gone through many name changes because of legal issues with there being real people in the air force with names similar to his character's

I think the true question of Vega's postition on the show will be answered when we find out whether or not she runs around in a tank top whenever she's not on duty. a tailored tank top no less

then we'll have a pretty good idea what their motives were

Buck32
March 4th, 2008, 02:10 PM
She's probably there to replace Teyla is the story arc with the baby means someone has to be a mommy and not a warrior princess...


I wouldn't be surprised if she joins shepherds team even temporarily because i don't think they'll find Teyla straight away, which may not be such a bad thing , i find Teyla boring. Rachel probably needs that time off with her baby, ala Amanda Tapping not appearing in season 9 of sg1 till part way through.

ykickamoocow
March 4th, 2008, 02:25 PM
Ford + Breasts = Vega

Jumper_One
March 4th, 2008, 02:33 PM
Ford + Breasts = Vega

I hope nobody's thinking about posting a pic :S

Skydiver
March 4th, 2008, 02:39 PM
let's not and say we did

I'd like to think i'm wrong and vega's gender won't be a plot point or focus of her character like they did with teyla. But after the past few years, these boys seem obsessed with featuring an actress' 'assets' more than her as a general character.

must cater to that young male demo after all :rolleyes:

ykickamoocow
March 4th, 2008, 02:41 PM
let's not and say we did

I'd like to think i'm wrong and vega's gender won't be a plot point or focus of her character like they did with teyla. But after the past few years, these boys seem obsessed with featuring an actress' 'assets' more than her as a general character.

must cater to that young male demo after all :rolleyes:

I dont think Carter or Keller have shown too much skin in Atlantis.

Skydiver
March 4th, 2008, 02:49 PM
they haven't, which kinda gives me hope. although i think some of carter not showing skin is the actor not showing skin.

Maybe they've realized that the whole 'blatant sex appeal' is tiresome to some.

time will tell.

Pharaoh Atem
March 4th, 2008, 02:50 PM
must cater to that young male demo after all :rolleyes:

well the cast is moslty men .... has been for years .so us males need soemthing

Skydiver
March 4th, 2008, 02:53 PM
i can appreciate that, but us females get tired of so many of hte females on shows being little more than the sum of their cup size :)

I"m not saying that she needs to be a dog, i'm just saying can't they just write a character first, and worry about the gender later?

Pharaoh Atem
March 4th, 2008, 02:55 PM
i can appreciate that, but us females get tired of so many of hte females on shows being little more than the sum of their cup size :)

I"m not saying that she needs to be a dog, i'm just saying can't they just write a character first, and worry about the gender later?

i like having a female in the cast but i agree i dont' want another vala.....:S i would hope she is professional ..being in the military :)

Mitchell82
March 4th, 2008, 02:57 PM
I personal think it's safe to say fords dead and the fans keep sayin "we want ford back" but i feel that the reason TPTB are bring it a new lower ranking character is to bring back the feeling ford did.....

anyone else agree??

I hope not. A female Ford will make me puke. I can't stand snot nosed young grunts and Ford was no exception.

Skydiver
March 4th, 2008, 02:57 PM
that's really all i'd want. for her to be 'real' instead of a cliche

they have larrin to be their 'sexy alien', they really don't need another character to fulfill that role.

write her like Lorne, in that she's 'real' and someone that people can identify with

ykickamoocow
March 4th, 2008, 02:59 PM
they haven't, which kinda gives me hope. although i think some of carter not showing skin is the actor not showing skin.

Maybe they've realized that the whole 'blatant sex appeal' is tiresome to some.

time will tell.

Obviously ive never seen Jewel Staite in anything before so i have no idea what her position is on showing abit of skin but Amanda Tapping doesnt really appear to have a problem with it as she appeared topless (though we got a view of her back) in a episode of SG1 (New Order) and i remember in a episode in s9 (Off the Grid) where she showed a rather large amount of cleavage.

I must point out though that out of all the main cast members of SG1 Michael Shanksshowed the most amount of skin in the episode "Fallen" and as for Atlantis it is arguable that out of all the main cast members David Hewlett showed the most skin in "Duet".

Skydiver
March 4th, 2008, 03:09 PM
it's not the showing of skin per se, as it is choice of costuming. in 11 years, 'sam' dressed pretty conservatively. In fact, most of what she wore for most of the time was to military regs on duty.

vala, on the other hand, had her bdu's custom tailored. She wears the pants as wide legged, almost hip huggers. Her jackets were noticibly short and tight, and her shirts were always low cut. claudia has a good body and vala dressed to make the most of it. the vast majority of her costumes were not what many people would consider appropriate for teh environment she was in (but she was an alien, so she could)

another contrast is weir vs teyla. Weir always dressed appropriately. sure, she occasionally had hte low cut t-shirt, but noting that you wouldn't see in an office. teyla, on the other hand, prior to her pregnancy wore low cut tank tops and high cut tops that bared a bit of skin. Her promo photos a couple of seasons ago, she was posed to accentuate her revealing top and slit skirt.

teyla is the sexy alien of the show. Just as vala was teh sexy alien of sg1. a role that only anise held before her.

When vega's just hanging out in the city, will she dress liek Sam/weir? or will she dress like Teyla/vega?

Her off and on duty costuming can give clues as to how the writers see her. in addition to her behavior. will she be mostly business? or will she spend her time making double entendres like vala?

Konrad9
March 4th, 2008, 03:18 PM
i can appreciate that, but us females get tired of so many of hte females on shows being little more than the sum of their cup size :)

I"m not saying that she needs to be a dog, i'm just saying can't they just write a character first, and worry about the gender later?

If sexism is such a bad thing, why should the sex of the character matter?
Wouldn't it BETTER to write the character without caring about the sex?

The amount of bashing about 'omg boobies boobies boobies dey are showin off teh boobies of all da girlz' on this place amazes me.

I see more skin when channel surfing past the Disney channel than I do on Atlantis.

Skydiver
March 4th, 2008, 03:20 PM
my point was, write lt/captain vega....and don't worry about that pesky gender stuff

time will tell if they will do that or if the focus of her character will be her gender

PG15
March 4th, 2008, 05:49 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if she joins shepherds team even temporarily because i don't think they'll find Teyla straight away, which may not be such a bad thing , i find Teyla boring. Rachel probably needs that time off with her baby, ala Amanda Tapping not appearing in season 9 of sg1 till part way through.

About that...

Vega leads her own team, so she will not be joining Shep's. Rachel had her baby waaay back in October, so she should be ready for work.

Reiko
March 4th, 2008, 06:13 PM
Kinda makes you wonder... If Ford had breasts, would he have been written off the show? :P

Nope. They like them busty characters ;)

Ford has so much potential but TPTB have made it clear. Mallozzi even said that blowing up on the hive ship was pretty much 'closure'. But the end of The Hive seemed to leave the door open. But again Ford aint got no boobs :P


WHY was she renamed from Alison Porter? I preferred that name better.

Alicia Vega is a sexier name :P (imo)


Interesting thought. Not sure if I agree. Isn't part of the reason the character was created to even up the male/female ratio a bit now that Woolsey has become leader instead of :sam: and:weir:?

No, that was why Keller got boosted to regular and we didn't get Carson back full-time. TPTB should've never offed Weir. Or at least been charitable and ask Torri to come back full-time. Thier loss :P



must cater to that young male demo after all :rolleyes:

Ay, they are a pain in the ass, aren't they? :rolleyes:


Vega leads her own team, so she will not be joining Shep's. Rachel had her baby waaay back in October, so she should be ready for work.

Oh great. So it seems she's replacing Lorne now! This cannot be happening! Carson, Elizabeth, Kate, not possibly Lorne now! I always thought Lorne led the secondary team, I could be wrong but as this character steps up it seems Lorne will have to take a step down.

-clutches Lorne and protects him from harm-

ShadowMaat
March 4th, 2008, 06:16 PM
Alicia Vega is a sexier name :P (imo)
Vega, she's a STAR! :D

Jumper_One
March 4th, 2008, 06:19 PM
Oh great. So it seems she's replacing Lorne now! This cannot be happening! Carson, Elizabeth, Kate, not possibly Lorne now! I always thought Lorne led the secondary team, I could be wrong but as this character steps up it seems Lorne will have to take a step down.

-clutches Lorne and protects him from harm-

from Joe's blog

Jason writes: “Will the new Captain Vega character take away screen time from Major Lorne..?”

Answer: No. The introduction of the Vega character had nothing to do with lessening the onscreen presence of any existing characters (regulars or recurring) and everything to do with a genuine desire to expand our roster of familiar faces.

Pitry
March 5th, 2008, 01:55 AM
my point was, write lt/captain vega....and don't worry about that pesky gender stuff

time will tell if they will do that or if the focus of her character will be her gender

Unfortunately, as is proven by Ronon, having the character is still not enough to concentrate about the character. And the way in which Ronon is written really emphasises it - he's also written mainly for his assets (only in this case, shooting, kicking, beating up and, erm, more shooting) - and physical assets, i.e armporn. Much like the SG1 guys' sleeveless shirts in season 7.

Huh, adn I actually liked Ford, because of his geeky unmuscular approach to things in season 1. I liked season 2's Super!Ford much much less (er, not at all...).

Skydiver
March 5th, 2008, 04:40 AM
i agree, it isn't just females that fall 'victim' to stereotyping. ronon is a lot like Teal'c in that he's 'silent alien muscle'

It just irks a bit more because, ratio wise, there are so few female characters, thus so few chances to have something approaching a real female on teh show, to then see that opportunity to write someone/something a bit more real and have it wasted time and time again.

I had no issue with ford, i kinda catagorize him like i do Lorne...one of the better characters of the show simply because they AREN'T a focus. they're not forced into the hewo role, or the geeky scientist role, or the silent muscle role, thus they are allowed to be people first and roles second

will they treat vega like Lorne and allow her to simply be or is she there to even out the male/female ratio since - now that sam is gone - we only have two token female characters.

i'm cynical, i'm sure there was a honest desire to add mor background characters, however i'm sure that the decision to make Vega Alica and not Allen was made with the fact in mind that a female character left and was replaced by a male, thus they need to add a female to avoid some of the crit about 'manning' the show. (and how can joe toy with that ship that he likes to tease people with if he only has two females (keller and teyla) to six males (carson, rodney, shep, lorne, ronon, zelenka)?

gotta avoid that slash don't ya know ;)

DigiFluid
March 5th, 2008, 04:46 AM
I personal think it's safe to say fords dead and the fans keep sayin "we want ford back" but i feel that the reason TPTB are bring it a new lower ranking character is to bring back the feeling ford did.....

anyone else agree??

Nah, tbh I think introducing "Alicia Vega" is a halfarsed attempt at having an "ethnic" character on the show.

Skydiver
March 5th, 2008, 04:52 AM
a female ethnic, two birds with one stone

or maybe actually having a non-white that ISN'T an alien

jds1982
March 5th, 2008, 05:32 AM
Well it looks like she's pretty hot, so I wouldn't get my hopes up for her not being portrayed as a sex symbol. She's also been on Atlantis before.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2086012/

Pharaoh Atem
March 5th, 2008, 05:44 AM
Well it looks like she's pretty hot, so I wouldn't get my hopes up for her not being portrayed as a sex symbol. She's also been on Atlantis before.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2086012/

but like sky said and i agree regardless of how she looks TPTB need to develop her character first

vjlax18
March 5th, 2008, 06:18 AM
About that...

Vega leads her own team, so she will not be joining Shep's. Rachel had her baby waaay back in October, so she should be ready for work.

IIRC it is said that she doesn't get a team at first and actually asks why she's there or something like that. She could very easily be a JQ, but then stay on as a regular after Teyla is found

Konrad9
March 5th, 2008, 07:43 AM
a female ethnic, two birds with one stone

or maybe actually having a non-white that ISN'T an alien
Bit of a chip on your shoulder, eh?

And JDS, if the only thing she's good for is a sex symbol as you say she will be, why weren't her breasts falling out of her shirt the first time she showed up?

DigiFluid
March 5th, 2008, 08:21 AM
Massive cleavage is not a prerequisite for sex-symbol status.

Pitry
March 5th, 2008, 08:49 AM
i agree, it isn't just females that fall 'victim' to stereotyping. ronon is a lot like Teal'c in that he's 'silent alien muscle'

It just irks a bit more because, ratio wise, there are so few female characters, thus so few chances to have something approaching a real female on teh show, to then see that opportunity to write someone/something a bit more real and have it wasted time and time again.

*agrees* It does have its similarities, I suppose, with the "all blacks are Jaffa" situation in SG1. Sigh.
Thing is, the writers are stil capable of writing a proper female cahracter, IMO, even the quality has dropped horribly since Carter's "golden years" on SG1 (for me, seasons 3-6 mainly). Just liek there was a period they wrote a proper part for Teal'c (5-8), ebfore taking it all away from hkm again and returning him to the Silent Alien Muscle. I have to admit that all through Midway - and Ark of Truth, too - I kept on feeling Teal'c's out of character. Hwe was in character, I suppose, for Teal'c of season 1 or 2. But it's like they went and ignored all the character development he reached in later years. But they did write him properly once, just like they did Carter or Weir or still do male characters that aren't meant to be 100% heroes 100% of the time like Rodney.
But back to Vega and writing proepr characters, I'm getting the feeling frmo the snippets used for the character's introduction this isn't going to happen. It sounds like the stereotypical "woman in military" situation.


I had no issue with ford, i kinda catagorize him like i do Lorne...one of the better characters of the show simply because they AREN'T a focus. they're not forced into the hewo role, or the geeky scientist role, or the silent muscle role, thus they are allowed to be people first and roles second

Once again, agreed. I'm also thinking of the ironic way the role of Carson changed between season 1 and 2...

jds1982
March 5th, 2008, 08:58 AM
And JDS, if the only thing she's good for is a sex symbol as you say she will be, why weren't her breasts falling out of her shirt the first time she showed up?

When did I say that? I just said not to get your hopes up. She may very well not be a sex symbol. She may be like Carter where she's been shown sexy at times, but that hasn't been the main point of her character, but I wouldn't hold my breath (mostly cause season 5 is several months away). I imagine her breasts weren't falling out of her shirt because the script didn't call for it.

prion
March 5th, 2008, 09:13 AM
let's not and say we did

I'd like to think i'm wrong and vega's gender won't be a plot point or focus of her character like they did with teyla. But after the past few years, these boys seem obsessed with featuring an actress' 'assets' more than her as a general character.

must cater to that young male demo after all :rolleyes:

Yup, the costumers tend to run out of material when it comes to covering women's chest. Just enough to make it legal, I swear. I mean, it's medieval squeeze-the-boobs up and out dresses on virtually every world. Even Larrin had a low cut outfit. Definitely done to appease the fanboys...

but back to Vega. Hopefully she'll be intelligent, not there just for her 'assets' and won't be some 'bad ass' type character as those are a dime a dozen nowadays.

Pharaoh Atem
March 5th, 2008, 09:35 AM
That's the thing that has always bugged me. i watch the show for the story and characters not to see women dress half naked.

jenks
March 5th, 2008, 09:39 AM
What if there's both?

SGFerrit
March 5th, 2008, 09:53 AM
Nah, tbh I think introducing "Alicia Vega" is a halfarsed attempt at having an "ethnic" character on the show.

How can you possibly know if it will be half-arsed until we actually see her in action?

Skydiver
March 5th, 2008, 09:54 AM
good point, we don't KNOW

but going by the track record of the past few years, i'll be surprised if she's not just a token

maxbo
March 5th, 2008, 10:07 AM
I want to like this character so I hope TPTB follow the Zelenka/Lorne method of recurring character development (slowly concentrate on the character first) and not the Keller method (make her everyone's instant best friend and/or ship until they get it *right*).

Mitchell82
March 5th, 2008, 10:29 AM
it's not the showing of skin per se, as it is choice of costuming. in 11 years, 'sam' dressed pretty conservatively. In fact, most of what she wore for most of the time was to military regs on duty.

vala, on the other hand, had her bdu's custom tailored. She wears the pants as wide legged, almost hip huggers. Her jackets were noticibly short and tight, and her shirts were always low cut. claudia has a good body and vala dressed to make the most of it. the vast majority of her costumes were not what many people would consider appropriate for teh environment she was in (but she was an alien, so she could)
It's not just because she's an alien. She was a civilian and didn't have to adhere to the same regs that the military personnel did. I am a guy so obviously I like sexy clothing however I don't like it when it's over the top and it only has been a few times on both shows.


another contrast is weir vs teyla. Weir always dressed appropriately. sure, she occasionally had hte low cut t-shirt, but noting that you wouldn't see in an office. teyla, on the other hand, prior to her pregnancy wore low cut tank tops and high cut tops that bared a bit of skin. Her promo photos a couple of seasons ago, she was posed to accentuate her revealing top and slit skirt.
Same rules apply as with Vala she doesn't have to adhere to the same regs.


teyla is the sexy alien of the show. Just as vala was teh sexy alien of sg1. a role that only anise held before her.
Oh Anise and her skin tight grey top how I miss thee.


When vega's just hanging out in the city, will she dress liek Sam/weir? or will she dress like Teyla/vega?

Her off and on duty costuming can give clues as to how the writers see her. in addition to her behavior. will she be mostly business? or will she spend her time making double entendres like vala?
That's a good question.

PG15
March 5th, 2008, 03:17 PM
IIRC it is said that she doesn't get a team at first and actually asks why she's there or something like that. She could very easily be a JQ, but then stay on as a regular after Teyla is found


I think that was from some article that was full of errors.

Mitchell82
March 5th, 2008, 06:28 PM
I think that was from some article that was full of errors.

Yeah I highly doubt any of that is accurate.

Detox
March 5th, 2008, 08:29 PM
I thought Vegas was to come in and serve in a similar capacity as SG-3 did for SG-1. Joe made mention of her having an all female off world team, that includes Dr. Alison Porter. If that's the case, then I think it's great, because they never really explored other gate teams in Atlantis.

ShadowMaat
March 5th, 2008, 08:41 PM
Yeah, so instead of, say, expanding on the characters we already know *cough*Lorne*cough* they choose instead to invent a whole new team. :rolleyes:

Right, maybe Lorne should have had breasts, too. :P

Reiko
March 5th, 2008, 08:47 PM
(and how can joe toy with that ship that he likes to tease people with if he only has two females (keller and teyla) to six males (carson, rodney, shep, lorne, ronon, zelenka)?

gotta avoid that slash don't ya know ;)

Mallozzi likes them ratings. We should tell him slash brings in ratings :D

I don't see whats wrong with more males. I would rather have one good female character than a bunch of crappy ones.


Well it looks like she's pretty hot, so I wouldn't get my hopes up for her not being portrayed as a sex symbol. She's also been on Atlantis before.

I thought she was pretty cute as a scientist. But now she's cast as a badass rebellious twentysomething. Which is sexier, hm?

Should have kept her as Esposito. Would be liked better and easier to accept by the fans. Or, what, do they run out of actors up in Vancouver or something? :rolleyes:


I think that was from some article that was full of errors.

Another article in which JM was misquoted, eh? ;)

Reiko
March 5th, 2008, 08:50 PM
Yeah, so instead of, say, expanding on the characters we already know *cough*Lorne*cough* they choose instead to invent a whole new team. :rolleyes:

Right, maybe Lorne should have had breasts, too. :P

I hate it that they're "trying to expand the roster of familiar faces". I feel like poking them and saying they still have TEYLA to develop more. We like quality, they like quantity.

I wouldn't be surprised if Lorne began sprouting breasts in the near future :P Another run-in with a funky gender-converting Ancient Machine :D

PG15
March 5th, 2008, 10:35 PM
Mallozzi likes them ratings. We should tell him slash brings in ratings :D

R ratings, perhaps. ;)


Should have kept her as Esposito. Would be liked better and easier to accept by the fans. Or, what, do they run out of actors up in Vancouver or something? :rolleyes:

Yeah, pretty much. Besides, Esposito was a scientist; Vega's a soldier.




Another article in which JM was misquoted, eh? ;)

Worse! He wasn't quoted at all! ;)

ShadowMaat
March 6th, 2008, 06:16 AM
I hate it that they're "trying to expand the roster of familiar faces". I feel like poking them and saying they still have TEYLA to develop more. We like quality, they like quantity.
Well, that's their answer to everything, isn't it? If something isn't working, add a new character. If you need to explain something, add a new character. If you need a particular task done, add a new character. If you're bored, add a new character. :rolleyes:

Jumper_One
March 6th, 2008, 10:49 AM
Well, that's their answer to everything, isn't it? If something isn't working, add a new character. If you need to explain something, add a new character. If you need a particular task done, add a new character. If you're bored, add a new character. :rolleyes:

nope it isn't. have you seen this? from Joe's blog

Jason writes: “Will the new Captain Vega character take away screen time from Major Lorne..?”

Answer: No. The introduction of the Vega character had nothing to do with lessening the onscreen presence of any existing characters (regulars or recurring) and everything to do with a genuine desire to expand our roster of familiar faces.

ShadowMaat
March 6th, 2008, 06:14 PM
And if you believe that, I've got a great bridge to sell you. :D

Detox
March 6th, 2008, 10:05 PM
And if you believe that, I've got a great bridge to sell you. :D

What do you have against adding more secondary characters? It's not like the cast's getting any bigger. With Heightmeyer dead, there's an extra slot open for another secondary.

Gaeth
March 6th, 2008, 10:38 PM
it's quite common for characters to be renamed during hte writing process. names have to be run through legal to make sure that whole 'not based on a real person' can be accurate.

for example, pete shanahan was originally supposed to be a reporter, but there was a real pete shanahan working for a tv station, so he became a cop instead.

walter harriman/davis/norman has gone through many name changes because of legal issues with there being real people in the air force with names similar to his character's

I think the true question of Vega's postition on the show will be answered when we find out whether or not she runs around in a tank top whenever she's not on duty. a tailored tank top no less

then we'll have a pretty good idea what their motives were

Oh that explains that whole "O'Neill" with two 'l's joke from 'Secrets' I think it was.

The funny thing is they don't have to show skin or flash cleavage to make a character sexy. For me Teyla was hottest when she was firing a gun (especially that Saw in Duet) or beating the tobacco juice out of some guy with sticks. Also when she broke that altered Wraith's neck with her bare hands in Misbegotten, nothing is more attractive than a woman that can lock 'n load and snap necks. And for the ladies, Sheppard doesn't wear skimpy clothing and women still find him dashing.

Mitchell82
March 6th, 2008, 10:48 PM
And if you believe that, I've got a great bridge to sell you. :D

Not all of us mistrust Joe.

jenks
March 7th, 2008, 02:12 AM
And if you believe that, I've got a great bridge to sell you. :D

Here we go with the conspiracy theories...

ark-of-continuum
March 7th, 2008, 04:00 AM
Possibly, one of the major twists in Season 5 Finale will be this unbelievable plot:
"Aiden 'SuperWolf' Ford back and kidnapped whole Atlantis team. But now, he is with big & strong army of ferment-drugged Lost Boys, also with couple of Hiveships. Then, he find Alicia Vega as his love interest, drugged girl with "super" ferment and grab her. [Aaah!]."

Oops, another supporting character <snip....we have a language filter for a reason> by writers+producers. OMG, somebody stop me. :beckettanime04:

p.s.
I really love Ford, even more after ferment-story begins. I want better fate for him! That charismatic son of the <snip> can't just <snip...try making your point without profanity please>die.

Skydiver
March 7th, 2008, 04:30 AM
Oh that explains that whole "O'Neill" with two 'l's joke from 'Secrets' I think it was.

The funny thing is they don't have to show skin or flash cleavage to make a character sexy. For me Teyla was hottest when she was firing a gun (especially that Saw in Duet) or beating the tobacco juice out of some guy with sticks. Also when she broke that altered Wraith's neck with her bare hands in Misbegotten, nothing is more attractive than a woman that can lock 'n load and snap necks. And for the ladies, Sheppard doesn't wear skimpy clothing and women still find him dashing.
the 'two l's' joke comes from Kurt Russell's character having one L i believe, and rick's version having two...because when he was asked to play the character, rick said 'ok, but i can't and won't do the hard ass that kurt did. this jack is going to be lighter'

and so the tv version of jack o'neill is a lot more light hearted and quippy than the movie version

and yeah, there is more to sex appeal than cleavage and tight pants...but the boys at bridge - or the boys at scifi that are pulling thie strings - just can't get that into their heads, thus the continued pandering to the fan boy syndrome

Integrabyte
March 7th, 2008, 04:35 AM
Not all of us mistrust Joe.

We know :P

ShadowMaat
March 7th, 2008, 06:04 AM
What do you have against adding more secondary characters?
By itself, I have nothing against it and think that sometimes it can help expand a show's stories/universe. But on Atlantis where I think the writers are doing a crummy job of utilizing the characters they already have, adding on yet more characters seems wasteful and stupid. Adding more characters won't fix the problems (as I see them) on the show, but they're bound to generate more. I'd rather see TPTB expand upon and enrich the characters we already know than watch them invent new ones to mishandle and ignore.

Konrad9
March 7th, 2008, 06:05 AM
the 'two l's' joke comes from Kurt Russell's character having one L i believe, and rick's version having two...because when he was asked to play the character, rick said 'ok, but i can't and won't do the hard ass that kurt did. this jack is going to be lighter'

and so the tv version of jack o'neill is a lot more light hearted and quippy than the movie version

and yeah, there is more to sex appeal than cleavage and tight pants...but the boys at bridge - or the boys at scifi that are pulling thie strings - just can't get that into their heads, thus the continued pandering to the fan boy syndrome

You continue to say they're appeasing the FANBOYS with all of the skankiness.
I would disagree, and to say that fanboys *don't* like that sort of thing.

Perhaps, instead, they are trying to get the younger boys, who are not fans of the show, to watch?

Mitchell82
March 7th, 2008, 11:26 AM
We know :P

You can be such a smartass.;)

GATEGOD
March 7th, 2008, 11:28 AM
If they want to appeal to Ford lover's and yet think the ford character is stupid and dull and yet bring in a completely new character that is supposed to be like Ford but isn't the actual character Ford.... Then why bring in any character at all if they don't like the ford character structure.. just bring back super ford!! They aren't pleasing me... :p

Integrabyte
March 7th, 2008, 11:30 AM
You can be such a smartass.;)

Touché :P.

jenks
March 7th, 2008, 12:01 PM
If they want to appeal to Ford lover's and yet think the ford character is stupid and dull and yet bring in a completely new character that is supposed to be like Ford but isn't the actual character Ford.... Then why bring in any character at all if they don't like the ford character structure.. just bring back super ford!! They aren't pleasing me... :p

Err... just because someone has speculated on this forum that she will like Ford doesn't mean she will be...

Fenrir Foxz
March 7th, 2008, 12:04 PM
Err... just because someone has speculated on this forum that she will like Ford doesn't mean she will be...

I completely agree, IMO Alicia Vega will be nothing like Ford :)

The.Road.Not.Taken
March 7th, 2008, 12:07 PM
I completely agree, IMO Alicia Vega will be nothing like Ford :)

hopefully she is better than him and not get fed on by the wraith PLZZZZZZZZZZ!!! NOOOOO!!

Fenrir Foxz
March 7th, 2008, 12:14 PM
hopefully she is better than him and not get fed on by the wraith PLZZZZZZZZZZ!!! NOOOOO!!

I cannot see that happening, from the way JM speaks of her I get the impression Alicia Vega is going to be somewhat like Lorne in the sense that she will be a recurring character and not a red coat ;)

Pharaoh Atem
November 24th, 2008, 05:51 AM
spoilers for whispers

she lasted one ep so i guess not

Jumper_One
November 24th, 2008, 11:59 AM
spoilers for whispers

she lasted one ep so i guess not

actually 2 eps, she also appeared in S&R

jenks
November 25th, 2008, 10:27 AM
Resurrected a thread and got it wrong... double fail.

Pharaoh Atem
November 25th, 2008, 07:52 PM
Resurrected a thread and got it wrong... double fail.

add it to the list :P

shows you how much i'm not liking season 5 huh

Arica15
November 26th, 2008, 11:32 AM
actually 2 eps, she also appeared in S&R

Though I can see why you'd think othewise.....

Though in one thing she's exactly like Ford, added to the list of things TPTB would rather not talk about....:rolleyes: