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Aurora24
February 23rd, 2008, 07:52 PM
I'm wondering how much the Wraith know about Michael and what's happened to him. It's obvious that they know about the Wraith that is no longer a Wraith, but I wonder if they know that the people from Atlantis are responsible for what happened to him?

the fifth man
February 23rd, 2008, 07:59 PM
Of that, I'm not quite sure. Personally though, I don't think the Wraith know the Atlantis team is responsible.

dasNdanger
February 23rd, 2008, 08:29 PM
Todd is tricky to read sometimes - but I'm guessing from what we saw, he knows the Lanteans have a hand in what happened - why else would he know that only the Atlantis team - and Michael -could be the responsible for the current situation? Here's how I see it from Kindred:

Todd confronts the Lanteans about the poisonings...he says, "That's because they were poisoned, and I suspect you already know how." He was not happy right there - the expression on his face, and his overall attitude, tells all.

He knows that the Lanteans helped the Hoffans, that they are partially responsible for what is happening to his kind. Todd is well aware of the technology the Lanteans possess, and the lengths they will go to to rid the galaxy of the Wraith. He also knows that there are only two parties who have the capability to launch such an attack - Michael, and the Lanteans. So, here he may see some connection - or know of a connection - between the two.

In his second meeting, when Shep and Rodney tell Todd that they already know who it is, and that his name is Michael ("Don't ask why") - just watch Todd's expressions. When Todd says, "I know the one of whom you speak, and I believe you are correct," and Shep replies, "Confirmation, without us giving you anything - that's very generous," - I get the feeling that the confirmation went both ways. Todd confirmed to Sheppard that 'Michael' was the guy they're after, while Sheppard confirmed to Todd - just by knowing who he is - that the Lanteans probably played a part in his transformation. He may have heard rumors, but for the Atlantis team to know him, to know him by name, and to know about his transformation - that probably confirmed in his mind that the Lanteans had a hand in creating 'Michael'.

Of course, I'm just guessing here - but it would make sense. Todd seems able to put two-and-two together fairly easily, so if he didn't know for sure before, I'm pretty certain now he knows basically how 'Michael' came into existence.

das

Ranlier
February 24th, 2008, 06:59 AM
Does this finally confirm that the Wraith do not have names among themselves then?

Icarium
February 24th, 2008, 09:17 AM
I was surprised that it was so easy for the Wraith to obtain the location of one of Michael's bases. Or maybe it only looked easy but they still managed. I would mean they know quite a lot. If they know he messes with their food and know the location of even one base, they could neutralise him...

Icarium

GoSpikey
February 24th, 2008, 10:09 AM
Does this finally confirm that the Wraith do not have names among themselves then?

It would be better to assume that, if they did have names, 'Michael' wouldn't be on their list. ;)

xSFx
February 24th, 2008, 12:47 PM
Sheppard confirmed to Todd - just by knowing who he is - that the Lanteans probably played a part in his transformation. He may have heard rumors, but for the Atlantis team to know him, to know him by name, and to know about his transformation - that probably confirmed in his mind that the Lanteans had a hand in creating 'Michael'.Why would it be so obvious that the Lanteans created Michael?

Lanteans name things all the time. Todd, Bob, Steve, Fran.

ziga1980
February 24th, 2008, 01:14 PM
I was surprised that it was so easy for the Wraith to obtain the location of one of Michael's bases. Or maybe it only looked easy but they still managed. I would mean they know quite a lot. If they know he messes with their food and know the location of even one base, they could neutralise him...

Icarium

they're probably afraid of him. afraid of the confrontation. and from what i understand only todd found out about the base, not all the wraith. still i wonder how that's possible but than again there has to be a story...

Icarium
February 24th, 2008, 01:26 PM
they're probably afraid of him. afraid of the confrontation. and from what i understand only todd found out about the base, not all the wraith. still i wonder how that's possible but than again there has to be a story...

Well, MIchael poses a serious threat to the Wraith. I think that on such occasion they would really join their forces and attack him.

And I wonder, do the Wraith worshippers meet and exchange such secret information while on a mission?

Icarium

GoSpikey
February 24th, 2008, 02:10 PM
Well, MIchael poses a serious threat to the Wraith. I think that on such occasion they would really join their forces and attack him.

And I wonder, do the Wraith worshippers meet and exchange such secret information while on a mission?

Icarium

It would be strange not to team up to defeat him! Although he apparently only has one Cruiser, not 20 Hives... We'll see.

And I'd like to see more about the Worshipers too!

xSFx
February 24th, 2008, 02:27 PM
The Wraith must unite for Freedom.. or the Terrorists win.
A pre-emptive strike would have been in order :D

GoSpikey
February 24th, 2008, 02:32 PM
The Wraith must unite for Freedom.. or the Terrorists win.
A pre-emptive strike would have been in order :D

The thing is, those Queens would rather eat each other for breakfast, than join forces. Betrayal is inevitable.

And think about the Sateda Commander, the ugly guy? Do you see someone like him joining forces?

Todd might, but won't stay long either. We know he wants to rule them all.

JSPuddlejumper
February 24th, 2008, 03:38 PM
They seem to know a lot.

Espeically Todd.

However, I do not think Michael and Todd were lover boys.

garhkal
February 24th, 2008, 04:27 PM
Does this finally confirm that the Wraith do not have names among themselves then?

Well, since they are telepathic, i do not see a need for them to name themselves. Just us.

GoSpikey
February 24th, 2008, 04:46 PM
Well, since they are telepathic, i do not see a need for them to name themselves. Just us.

You'd be surprised how well a silly 'hey, you!' works in that network. ^^

Hopefully we'll find that out before they're ded. :P

garhkal
March 3rd, 2008, 05:09 PM
That would be funny to see...

GoSpikey
March 7th, 2008, 01:26 PM
They seem to know a lot.

Espeically Todd.

However, I do not think Michael and Todd were lover boys.

:mad: I take great offense in that! :mad:

LiquidSky
March 13th, 2008, 12:10 AM
Maybe Todd tapped into the telepathic hive link to find out about Micheal taking over the Wraith lab and I also think that is how he found out about the one called Micheal. Maybe Todd has a couple of Wraith worshippers working for him. Just a thought.

LS

DefiantOne
March 16th, 2008, 06:46 AM
I'm pretty sure the word got around about Michael since he went back to the Wraith twice. I'm guessing that the second time he had to escape and it wasn't very pretty so there is probably an APB out for him anyway.

The wraith probably do not have names in a convential sense but they must have some way of identifying individuals just as many animal species do, their Tatoo's are obviously some way of distinguishing allegience or faction or clan.

I think Todd knows a lot more then he lets on not only about Michael, but everything in general. As he indicated it was not easy to re-introduce himself into the Wraith world. I bet one of his tricks for staying alive and ahead of the game is gathering as much intel as he can.