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Infernorhythm
February 23rd, 2008, 07:29 PM
Did anyone miss them? Don't get me wrong, I found the Athosian drones to be quite a shock, but after recently rewatching Vengeance to prepare for the Kindred, I realized how freaking awesome the Iratus Mutants were. Weren't they already a supersoldier, how could Michael improve on them? And what, he just got rid of the thousands of monsters he had stashed across the Pegasus Galaxy?

And besides, they're based off the Iratus Bug! Who doesn't love Sheppard's "I HATE those things!" response to the bugs?

haloplayer
February 23rd, 2008, 07:35 PM
Ya i don't know what happened with them. Maybe they are on the Hive Ship that is in Michael's control. He did say they were crude but especially with there hard shell they may seem more resilient to firearms then the human/wraith hybrids.

Did he destroy them?

If i were him i would not destroy the thousands of Bug helpers since it took him along time to create them.

Also i think it was those Bug creatures that helped him capture the Athosians. He could not do it by himself. He should have kept the Bugs with his human/wraith hybrids. Maybe we will see them again. And i want an answer to what he did with his Bug creatures.

PG15
February 23rd, 2008, 07:42 PM
In theory they could've been very cool...but not so on the TV budget, I'm afraid.

I'm glad they're gone.

Infernorhythm
February 23rd, 2008, 07:50 PM
In theory they could've been very cool...but not so on the TV budget, I'm afraid.

I'm glad they're gone.

Really? I thought they worked brilliantly in Vengeance. The camera angles, the sudden attacks, and overall creepy aspect of the monsters made Vengeance a favorite of mine. The monsters were actually part of what I was looking forward to the most in the Kindred. Sadly, they never showed.

Blistna
February 23rd, 2008, 09:30 PM
Plus they were stupid. They are good for ground battles, but clearly, this war against both us and the Wraith will be won in space.

And he may still have them...release them upon us like dogs...who knows?

Prior_of_the_Ori
February 24th, 2008, 03:36 AM
Personally, I hope they arent gone and return sometime in the future. They could serve as Michaels shock troopers, the warrior caste for his Wraith faction while he tinkers and creates new castes for his forces to serve him. I mean sure they wouldnt be able to blend in enemy populations and might require to feed like a Wraith and may even be crude but their appearance would make them a fearsome force to see on combat missions.

I mean he said he had dozens of facilities breeding the creatures and quite a few escaped in Vengeance so I hope they return!

ckwongau
February 24th, 2008, 03:41 AM
I am sure some of them are still around,but they may be be use as Michael's footsoldier, or pet for killing prisoner.
The new hybrid will be the middle managment,The giant bug will be soldier.
Michael is planning on donmanting the Pegasus Galaxy , he need different kind of soldier.Michael hasn't decide what his empire will be like yet.
The human hybrid will serve as captain and general, the Bug hybrid will use as occupying force.

YutheGreat
February 24th, 2008, 03:50 AM
Michael's monsters or Uberatus uber (super) ratus (Irratusas) as I like to refer to them, are strong, fast, ruthless, hard to kill but they have a few weaknesses. They do not have proper hands meaning they can't have weapons or fly darts. They also seem to lack the ability for thinking.

Don't get me wrong I like them. They are supersoldiers that could tear Wraith limb from limb but Michael will have a hard time using them against the Wraith in space or air battles. Michael would also have to command them in person.
Hopefully Micahel's new race has the Uberratus as well as the Athosian drones. The Uberratus will serve as foot soldiers while the Athosian drones will command them and pilot vessels and use weapons in Michael's campaign for war.

Mefusta
February 24th, 2008, 04:08 AM
They were just a stepping stone to Michael's ultimate goal. He was aiming for a human-wraith hybrid, so he decided to experiment with the potential of a wraith-iratus hybrid. Clearly, the results were a little too volatile for mass production, so i'm thinking he just resigned to sticking with his human-wraith hybrid experiments.

Or, perhaps he's engineered an entire army of the buggers, ready to act as infantry against the Wraith once his little crusade gets going. Those things would probably eat Drones for breakfast.

JSPuddlejumper
February 24th, 2008, 05:08 AM
Like I said before, they were trash. Michael said so himself, now he has Version 2.0.

Millions of brainless tards are not going to win him the galaxy.

GoSpikey
February 24th, 2008, 05:54 AM
Plus they were stupid. They are good for ground battles, but clearly, this war against both us and the Wraith will be won in space.

And he may still have them...release them upon us like dogs...who knows?

I agree. The Bugs were for ground fights only. They might not even have been too good for in-bunker fighting. It's better like it's now. Humanoid fighters with Wraithy powers. He's clearly done some thinking after Vengeance, about why his plan failed.

And you never know if he keeps those bugs stashed in ground facilities. Although I wonder how he'd feed them, or what he feeds them.

And they must have been hard to potty train, too. :o

Infernorhythm
February 24th, 2008, 09:11 AM
The Athosian drones definiately were more resilient (one took a Ronon-gun to the arm and a few shots to the chest before dying), but they were way more vulnerable than the Iratus monsters. I agree, Michael can't exactly use the Monsters to pilot his cruiser or anything like that, but I definitely want to see the Iratus Monsters return.

kymeric
February 24th, 2008, 09:35 AM
Millions of brainless tards are not going to win him the galaxy.

I lol'ed

GoSpikey
February 24th, 2008, 10:08 AM
Any idea how many Athosians there were?

So we'll have an idea of the size of Michael's army?

1138
February 24th, 2008, 01:26 PM
I am sure some of them are still around,but they may be be use as Michael's footsoldier, or pet for killing prisoner.


Please, can we see a giant Rancor-sized version living under a trapdoor in Michael's throne room?

kymeric
February 24th, 2008, 06:13 PM
Please, can we see a giant Rancor-sized version living under a trapdoor in Michael's throne room?

That would be freaking sweet! A mix between a queen xenomorph and rancor!

Colonel Eriksen
February 25th, 2008, 06:15 AM
I hope the monsters will come back as a servant race too Michaels hybrid race

Like the Jaffa and the GoaŽuld

Or something but I would really like to see them again

Prior_of_the_Ori
February 25th, 2008, 06:33 AM
Well the Bug People can serve as his verison of the Kull while the Human Hybrids serve as his Jaffa. One as soldier the other as commander. Makes a good combination and who knows, we might see even more creations from that evil brain of Michael.

kymeric
February 25th, 2008, 04:24 PM
Does that make michael a queen? Lawlz

supahstah

Ed
February 29th, 2008, 12:22 PM
i bet those monsters would be useless outside there only good at close quarters

cabouse18
February 29th, 2008, 02:47 PM
i bet those monsters would be useless outside there only good at close quarters

they probably turn to stone in the sunlight! Do you think we are going to ever see them again? I mean he did say in Vengeance that he was conducting the experiment on many planets and there were a ton of them on *that* planet.....what did he do destroy them all in favor of the Athosians?? That would have been a waste IMO

DefiantOne
March 15th, 2008, 04:52 AM
I'm guessing as far as a plot device they are too efficient. If he used them soley instead of trying to build a more human version they would be able to just overrun every planet in Pegasus and nearly every hive ship if he could get them on board. It would pretty much leave no room in the series.

I did enjoy the episode with them in it, it was distinctly alienesque, and I am hoping to see their return. However, it would have to be limited and the Atlantis humans would have to find a way to put a stop to their spread. Which of course they will do because they solve every problem in 60-120 minutes, granted even if it makes the situation in the future worse for everyone else. :::yawn:::

Prior_of_the_Ori
March 15th, 2008, 07:01 AM
JM's blog says that the Hybrids serve as the new and improved version of these creatures which makes me think that we might not see them again :( I hope I'm wrong there plus that leaves a big question on what happened to all those creatures? Seems a pity just to remove them from the storyline.