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Stargate: Horizon
February 21st, 2008, 09:29 AM
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Robots and Flying Saucers

Tom and David find themselves in a virtual simulation which resembles a 1950's science fiction movie.

Check it out! (http://www.freewebs.com/stargate-horizon/411_robots_and_flying_saucers.pdf)

Then stop back here for comments and discussion!

Alex Rubit
February 21st, 2008, 01:12 PM
The episode is now up on the site (http://www.freewebs.com/stargate-horizon)!

Definitely an unusual episode to kick off the new run, but we're finally back with all new episodes!

I'm really curious to see the reactions to this one.

Lt.Colonel John Sheppard
February 21st, 2008, 03:26 PM
hey what's wrong with the file its says its damage and cannot be repaired

Alex Rubit
February 21st, 2008, 03:33 PM
That's weird. It's coming up fine when I click on it. Have you tried to download it straight from the website?

peragrin
February 21st, 2008, 04:13 PM
hank. You safe us professor
minor spelling error, right in the opening sequence.

other than all that I have only one thing to say.

:lol:

jmm
February 21st, 2008, 07:43 PM
OK, not the best kind of episode to get back from hiatus (or to start *watching* Horizon).
The story was simplistic, and the resolution.... I guess another word for simplistic, but you know.... I don't care (I don't know if this good mood comes from the long awaited Horizon fix after a long withdrawal, nevermind!)

The episode was fun. And sometimes that's the only thing that matters. I really liked a few things:
a) Continuity: some small things in the beginning, although small they certainly add to the whole *series* experience.
b) Character/Universe. I like that almost all the main characters (and some secondary characters too) have rich back stories, that they do have a "life" and do things like a regular Joe (For instance the hinting about the 7pm regular activities between Tom and David): They are not bland nor one dimensional characters.
c) Zach. I'm actually linking a lot this character. You couldn't put him in a more awkward situation and I would love to see those scenes. This character was however, one dimensional.
d) The Hat related scenes...

Although I liked the episode, I really hope for a regular Horizon/Stargate episode next week.

** 1/2 out of 4

Senku
February 22nd, 2008, 05:04 AM
Nice :) All the topics were there: military, robots, the boy, the woman... even the ending was so typical!

Three spelling errors: 2 x "safe" instead of "save" (1 in the teaser and 1 in the ending scenes) and when Tom make his list of writers, he says "Asmimov" :P Good wink using Asimov as the military character, by the way ;)

The episode was obviously "plane", indeed, but well conducted.

Nice job and I'm already waiting for the next one!

Alex Rubit
February 22nd, 2008, 09:25 PM
OK, not the best kind of episode to get back from hiatus (or to start *watching* Horizon).
The story was simplistic, and the resolution.... I guess another word for simplistic, but you know.... I don't care (I don't know if this good mood comes from the long awaited Horizon fix after a long withdrawal, nevermind!)

Yeah, it's definitely not the best episode to come back with after a hiatus. And as I said before, we never planned to have such a long break between "Temple of Secrets" and this one.

We purposely haven't had a huge announcement yet about the return of new episodes, because I wanted to wait until early next week. Usually, whenever we have a big news story up it'll attract some first time readers, and like you said, this isn't the ideal episode to give someone their first impression of the series. It's a fun episode, but definitely not an example of what the series usually is.


c) Zach. I'm actually linking a lot this character. You couldn't put him in a more awkward situation and I would love to see those scenes. This character was however, one dimensional.

I'm glad to hear that. It's time people started giving Zach a chance. I'm the first to admit that it's taken us a while to really get a handle on his character, and I'm not entirely happy with the way he was written back in Season Two myself. But now I think he's turned into a great character. He's a unique personality, but certainly not the over-the-top weird guy that he was when he was first introduced.

Did you mean that Zach was one-dimensional? If so, I would have to say I really don't think he is. You just need to look at episodes like "Countdown" or "Together We Stand." But the goal is to develop him further and further as the series progresses.


Although I liked the episode, I really hope for a regular Horizon/Stargate episode next week.

Next week will be part one of the big Earth two parter. We'll be seeing the return of a couple of familiar faces.

Alex Rubit
February 22nd, 2008, 09:31 PM
Tom make his list of writers, he says "Asmimov"

Wait. What makes you think that was a mistake? Alfonso Asmimov is one of my all time favorite writers.

Col.Foley
February 22nd, 2008, 09:33 PM
Hey Alex... loved it...favorite of the season so far....although this season has been getting stronger with each ep.

First, the obvious humor, it was brilliant done, kudos to the writer.

Especially the Zach on drugs was extremely funny, and well written, I wish I could do that.

Tom was amusing during the event in his whole noble thing.

Also, another small arc continued, however this one was mostly singular, it brought back blefeld,(sp) and of course Arina, Jaret, and his group. Speaking of which, Arina was also funny trying to explain herself.

Another great Timilia ep, I loved this one, and the last one, for very different reasons, this one was indeed 'a wild ride.'

Also, I do not know if it is official, but I imagined Gordon as Chuck, and I was nearly on the floor laughing, he is so perfect for the

And, it was about Page 52 before I realized you were making Sci-fi pop references with your characters, good choice with that.

I look forward to next weeks.

Alex Rubit
February 22nd, 2008, 09:53 PM
Also, I do not know if it is official, but I imagined Gordon as Chuck, and I was nearly on the floor laughing, he is so perfect for the

It's pretty much official at this point. And I agree -- he's a great fit.


And, it was about Page 52 before I realized you were making Sci-fi pop references with your characters, good choice with that.

Yeah, there's quite a few references to classic sci-fi in there. Some are more obvious than others. A few are probably tricky to spot.

Glad you enjoyed this episode so much, by the way.

Col.Foley
February 22nd, 2008, 09:55 PM
It's pretty much official at this point. And I agree -- he's a great fit.



Yeah, there's quite a few references to classic sci-fi in there. Some are more obvious than others. A few are probably tricky to spot.

Glad you enjoyed this episode so much, by the way.
Yeah...re read the episode list, and this is third.....still loved it, but 'Eden' remains my favorite. Once again one of those situations where it is hard to remember exactly what you read.

Alex Rubit
February 22nd, 2008, 10:03 PM
Yeah...re read the episode list, and this is third.....still loved it, but 'Eden' remains my favorite. Once again one of those situations where it is hard to remember exactly what you read.

I'm just curious. If this is number three, which one is your second favorite so far?

Col.Foley
February 22nd, 2008, 10:07 PM
I'm just curious. If this is number three, which one is your second favorite so far?Prophets Rising, with Temple in fourth, and Reunited in fifth.

jmm
February 22nd, 2008, 10:21 PM
Did you mean that Zach was one-dimensional? If so, I would have to say I really don't think he is. You just need to look at episodes like "Countdown" or "Together We Stand." But the goal is to develop him further and further as the series progresses.

I meant in this particular episode, but I guess the comedic nature of the situation demanded it.



Next week will be part one of the big Earth two parter. We'll be seeing the return of a couple of familiar faces.

Now I'm really looking forward to the next few episodes.... Why is not Thursday already?!!

Col.Foley
February 22nd, 2008, 10:23 PM
I meant in this particular episode, but I guess the comedic nature of the situation demanded it.



Now I'm really looking forward to the next few episodes.... Why is not Thursday already?!!
*is speechless* Those two are next, wow! Me to. *does dance*

Alex Rubit
February 22nd, 2008, 10:47 PM
Prophets Rising, with Temple in fourth, and Reunited in fifth.

Nice. That's really interesting to know. :)

Can't wait to see what you think of some of the upcoming episodes.

Col.Foley
February 22nd, 2008, 10:49 PM
Nice. That's really interesting to know. :)

Can't wait to see what you think of some of the upcoming episodes.I know, I am really really really looking forward to the two parter that is coming up, and if done right, could make a great episodes. I just have on question, how political do they get?

Alex Rubit
February 22nd, 2008, 10:49 PM
I meant in this particular episode, but I guess the comedic nature of the situation demanded it.

Oh yeah, that's definitely true. I wish we would have had some more character moments for Zach here, but we ran out of time.


Now I'm really looking forward to the next few episodes.... Why is not Thursday already?!!

Not too much longer. After all, after a two month hiatus, what's six days? ;)

Alex Rubit
February 22nd, 2008, 10:54 PM
I just have on question, how political do they get?

The episodes deal a lot with the difficulties of the Stargate being public, something that we really haven't explored in detail up until now. Basically, there's some pretty strong disagreements between the nations within the ISGC, and those disagreements start heating up.

I hope that answers the question at least to some degree.

Col.Foley
February 22nd, 2008, 10:57 PM
The episodes deal a lot with the difficulties of the Stargate being public, something that we really haven't explored in detail up until now. Basically, there's some pretty strong disagreements between the nations within the ISGC, and those disagreements start heating up.

I hope that answers the question at least to some degree.
It does, oh, I just thought of another one, on the site it said that a terorist attack is the thing that sets off all the said politicking, but, who is doing the attacks?

Alex Rubit
February 22nd, 2008, 11:03 PM
It does, oh, I just thought of another one, on the site it said that a terorist attack is the thing that sets off all the said politicking, but, who is doing the attacks?

Hmm. Giving that away before the episode airs would be a huge spoiler.

Col.Foley
February 22nd, 2008, 11:22 PM
Hmm. Giving that away before the episode airs would be a huge spoiler.
interesting.......I look forward to it.:D

jonos101
February 23rd, 2008, 03:39 AM
hey
i thought it was good, but not great. but thats just me, im more into eps that involve the hole team and a bit of action. still it was well done

6 half/10

Senku
February 23rd, 2008, 07:32 AM
Wait. What makes you think that was a mistake? Alfonso Asmimov is one of my all time favorite writers.

I'm sorry but... who?

I search Asmimov on google and I only find spelling errors for Isaac Asimov... :?

:S:S:S

Alex Rubit
February 24th, 2008, 07:36 PM
I'm sorry but... who?

I search Asmimov on google and I only find spelling errors for Isaac Asimov... :?

:S:S:S

Actually... that was a joke.

Thought it was obvious. But granted, I did forget to throw in a smiley. :D

Senku
February 25th, 2008, 05:55 AM
Actually... that was a joke.

Thought it was obvious. But granted, I did forget to throw in a smiley. :D

OK... I missed it, but only because you gave even a name to the man!

:psycho:

:S;)

Elite Anubis Guard
March 7th, 2008, 05:07 PM
So...I'm gonna be contradictive here. It was an awful but fantastic episode. I really hated how simple and predictable the story was. As soon as the teaser ended I knew how the episode was going to go and I really didn't enjoy it. The Asimov and Wells stuff just made me cringe. Far too blunt references.

But then again, I thought the writing was great. I really enjoyed that brief moment between Tom and David when David confronted Tom about being a child. Another thing I enjoyed was that it felt genuinely like an old Sci-fi which was great.

This one was polar extreme. God awful story, but good filler. How that works, not entirely sure but I am certain I can't wait for a more serious one from Colin. Think a fair for this is fine. Where's Mike these days?

Alex Rubit
March 7th, 2008, 11:54 PM
The Asimov and Wells stuff just made me cringe. Far too blunt references.

Well, if this were on TV, of course, the Asimov reference wouldn't have made it into the episode. Because at no point does anyone actually call him by name. It was just a fun gag in the script. And Wells is really not that much of an unusual name.

Just curious, though, did you catch any of the other tons of old sci-fi references? Really every single character in the simulation is named after some character in some classic sci-fi movie.


This one was polar extreme. God awful story, but good filler. How that works, not entirely sure but I am certain I can't wait for a more serious one from Colin.

That's an interesting way of putting it. I had similar feelings at some point. For a while it bothered me that we had such a simplistic story (for which I take full responsibility), and I was wondering whether or not this episode actually worked. But eventually I just realized that's the nature of it: yes, it's very simplistic, you know exactly what's going to go wrong. But what makes it fun, I think, is the fact that it does feel like an old sci-fi movie. It's tricky to convey that in just script form, but I guess it worked out okay.


Where's Mike these days?

I'd tell you if I knew.

Elite Anubis Guard
December 2nd, 2011, 02:37 PM
I can’t really remember how I felt when I originally read this but upon re-reading it I was worried it might turn into too much of a holodeck style episode. Very happy to see how you pulled it off, was disappointed it did follow the typical “simulation goes wrong” situation. Thankfully it was a cool enough simulation though to keep it interesting.