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Alipeeps
February 16th, 2008, 10:40 AM
I mean, seriously... 5+ people stuck for an unknown number of days (certainly more than 1) on a jumper, there has to be toilet facilities in there somewhere, right? :lol:

I mean, does it drop out of the ceiling or rise from the floor when you press a button or what? It must be hidden somewhere! :D

Major_Griff
February 16th, 2008, 10:45 AM
I'm sure they all changed their pants and underwear as soon as they got on board the Daedulus.

Vala_M
February 16th, 2008, 11:41 AM
There's no toilets on a jumper, it's too small and it was never desinged for that anyway. And yeah, I'm sure that they would have to change their pants on the Daedalus.

Vala,

gkyun
February 16th, 2008, 12:05 PM
There might be a pull-out toilet of some sorts underneath one of the benches.

Avenger
February 16th, 2008, 01:13 PM
There's no toilets on a jumper, it's too small and it was never desinged for that anyway. And yeah, I'm sure that they would have to change their pants on the Daedalus.

Vala,

It can be said definitively that there are no toilets on the jumpers.

Gate Geek
February 16th, 2008, 02:12 PM
The jumpers probably store disposable urinals ( like TravelJohnTM ). Not the most pleasant things, but hey, they work when you really need it when there's nothing else available.

memnarch
February 16th, 2008, 02:25 PM
I'm thinking bottles and bags, if there aren't any hidden compartments...Let's hope they also come equipped with air freshener...

Mefusta
February 16th, 2008, 02:42 PM
I think it's pretty simple to imagine how Shep would have set it up after they first escaped:

"Okay people, looks like we're going to out here for a while, so we'd better settle in for the long haul. First up, if any of you have to use the latrine, just use this bucket next to Kavanaugh's head."

Nitegate
February 16th, 2008, 02:54 PM
now you know what was used for food and water :mckay:

fellip_nectar
February 16th, 2008, 03:33 PM
Why bother with toilets, when you have Kavanagh on board? ;)

Mitchell82
February 16th, 2008, 03:42 PM
now you know what was used for food and water :mckay:

blech!

Mitchell82
February 16th, 2008, 03:42 PM
Why bother with toilets, when you have Kavanagh on board? ;)

:lol:

Gaeth
February 16th, 2008, 04:36 PM
There might be a pull-out toilet of some sorts underneath one of the benches.

Yeah, like the ones they had on Firefly in their personal quarters.

Lord batchi ball
February 16th, 2008, 04:50 PM
Its called a cup.

peragrin
February 16th, 2008, 04:54 PM
On long distance hauls they install a porta potty. This has been shown whenever a long jumper flight has taken place(defiant one?)

Also this jumper was put here expressly as an emergency escape pod. It is a 9 day journey for a ship to reach Midway. I think a porta potty, 2 weeks worth of food and water for whatever the normal crew complement of midway was would be norm.

Skydiver
February 16th, 2008, 05:07 PM
i would say, they're men and they have baggies ;)

Lord batchi ball
February 16th, 2008, 05:22 PM
i would say, they're men and they have baggies ;)

Yes they are men:zelenka25:. But at least there were no women, other wise the bathroom situtation would have gotten a little more complicated then peeing in a bottle.

Skydiver
February 16th, 2008, 05:24 PM
not really. just takes a little more dexterity is all.

nx01a
February 16th, 2008, 06:00 PM
Here's to bags and air tight equipment containers. If you need your privacy, have the others go in the bridge and shut the door. ;)

Skydiver
February 16th, 2008, 06:00 PM
string a blanket and get over it...and don't over drink ;)

jelgate
February 16th, 2008, 06:40 PM
JM's blog

Shawna writes: “Food, water, medical supplies…and no way to relieve themselves. What, did they use bottles or something?”

Answer: Nope. As with most long jumper flights, they go right in the back, then have everyone either pile into the cockpit area and seal it off, or hold on tight at which point the ramp is lowered and rapid decompression takes place, effectively clearing out any unwanted material. It’s a bit of a pain, but very effective.

reddevil18
February 16th, 2008, 06:50 PM
JM's blog

Yeah, and thus he proved my theory that I had posted on the general discussion thread! YAY! :p

Skydiver
February 16th, 2008, 06:57 PM
that makes no sense.
why lose 2/3 of your oxygen supply? not to mention the heat by exposing the back to the cold of space.

if they're floating iwth limited consumables/power, you're not gonna waste it using decompression to clean up your messes.

nx01a
February 16th, 2008, 07:00 PM
Tyvm, Skydiver. Like I've been saying, bags and air tight containers.:D
It makes no sense to keep opening up the lifeboat and losing what's keep you alive in the boat.

reddevil18
February 16th, 2008, 07:03 PM
that makes no sense.
why lose 2/3 of your oxygen supply? not to mention the heat by exposing the back to the cold of space.

if they're floating iwth limited consumables/power, you're not gonna waste it using decompression to clean up your messes.

Can't you just let me enjoy being right? :p
And I assume the Jumpers have some kind of air recycling thingies...Otherwise they'd have been long dead by the time the Daeddy arrived, waste disposal or not...And the front compartment is supposed to seal perfectly, just like the outer hatch, so I don't see it being a real problem. Repressurize, give it some time, then open the compartment...

reddevil18
February 16th, 2008, 07:04 PM
Tyvm, Skydiver. Like I've been saying, bags and air tight containers.:D
It makes no sense to keep opening up the lifeboat and losing what's keep you alive in the boat.

Like I said, I don't see how they'd be losing anything.

jelgate
February 16th, 2008, 07:06 PM
that makes no sense.
why lose 2/3 of your oxygen supply? not to mention the heat by exposing the back to the cold of space.

if they're floating iwth limited consumables/power, you're not gonna waste it using decompression to clean up your messes.

Being a Ancient ship in design, isn't it possible for Puddle Jumpers be able to produce oxygen.

nx01a
February 16th, 2008, 07:08 PM
And I assume the Jumpers have some kind of air recycling thingies...
It's one thing to filter an existing atmosphere using the CO2 scrubbers and whatnot, but they don't have a device onboard magically creating more atmosphere. Well, no Asgard tech that we know of, anyway. :P It's a small ship, they need all the atmosphere they can get.

reddevil18
February 16th, 2008, 07:10 PM
It's one thing to filter an existing atmosphere using the CO2 scrubbers and whatnot, but they don't have a device onboard magically creating more atmosphere. Well, no Asgard tech that we know of, anyway. :P It's a small ship, they need all the atmosphere they can get.

Well, the air within the front compartment should be sufficient to be recycled over and over again. It wouldn't exactly be comfortable, but it's not like they're actually involved in serious physical activities, which would require them t use more oxygen...Though, Kavanagh and Bill talking and talking and tatatatatatatatatatata might be too much for the system to handle...:p

nx01a
February 16th, 2008, 08:53 PM
I still say venting all that atmosphere is a waste and tactically unsound for people who have no idea how long they have to survive on the scarce resources they have. You can't waste air just to get rid of poop. Especially when there're so many nice air tight containers around.;)

You're just uppity 'cause the producer had the same thought as you. :P

reddevil18
February 16th, 2008, 08:59 PM
I still say venting all that atmosphere is a waste and tactically unsound for people who have no idea how long they have to survive on the scarce resources they have. You can't waste air just to get rid of poop. Especially when there're so many nice air tight containers around.;)

You're just uppity 'cause the producer had the same thought as you. :P
Bet your ass I am! :p Now, bring on the children-devouring bunnies!

nx01a
February 16th, 2008, 10:11 PM
I think you should do a Wraith/Donnie Darko crossover as your next sig. You seem to like psycho bunnies, air-waster.

1138
February 16th, 2008, 10:23 PM
Adult diapers. It's good enough for slightly crazed astronauts, after all.

reddevil18
February 16th, 2008, 10:23 PM
I think you should do a Wraith/Donnie Darko crossover as your next sig. You seem to like psycho bunnies, air-waster.

Yes, I do. But I have never seen Donnie Darko nor do I have any interest in it. :S
And I'll have you know that I hold my breath for 20 seconds out of every minute! :p

nx01a
February 16th, 2008, 10:30 PM
Adult diapers. It's good enough for slightly crazed astronauts, after all.
Slightly?

And you should watch Donnie Darko, 'devil. It's a great movie. Complete with a psycho bunny. In a toilet! Well, a bathroom, but still...

reddevil18
February 16th, 2008, 10:31 PM
And you should watch Donnie Darko, 'devil. It's a great movie. Complete with a psycho bunny.
Well, the bunny sounds tempting, but I don't know...I shall think about it...;)

nx01a
February 16th, 2008, 10:36 PM
I was remembering 'Rising' where John's thinking about things he wants and the display comes on and the life signs detector pops out. It would be hilarious if he wanted to use the facilities and a tube sprouted out of nowhere or the seat under him swirled open a hole. And, of course, the dispenser with toilet paper, soap, water and a moist toilette.

reddevil18
February 16th, 2008, 10:39 PM
I was remembering 'Rising' where John's thinking about things he wants and the display comes on and the life signs detector pops out. It would be hilarious if he wanted to use the facilities and a tube sprouted out of nowhere or the seat under him swirled open a hole. And, of course, the dispenser with toilet paper, soap, water and a moist toilette.

And he kept it all to himself!;)

nx01a
February 16th, 2008, 10:44 PM
He was in the cockpit all alone, so... Yup. Stingy human. Not sharing the Ancient bounty...
Lol. Ancient Bounty.:P

I need sleep. Obviously.

reddevil18
February 16th, 2008, 10:46 PM
He was in the cockpit all alone, so... Yup. Stingy human. Not sharing the Ancient bounty...
Lol. Ancient Bounty.:P

I need sleep. Obviously.

Tell me about it. And we're pretty much alone, going crazy with the space toilets and Bill Lee. Imagine in the morning, when people will start reading the threads, going WHAT. THE. HELL?! :S

PG15
February 16th, 2008, 10:50 PM
Hey, I'm reading it now and I'm already going that. ;)

nx01a
February 16th, 2008, 10:50 PM
You're on your own, devil buddy.

There are no toilets on jumpers.

Thank you! And g'night!

reddevil18
February 16th, 2008, 10:53 PM
Hey, I'm reading it now and I'm already going that. ;)

Shhhh...Don't tell anyone else. Maybe they won't notice;)
It's the lack of sleep. I swear, I'm sane...ish...:S

reddevil18
February 16th, 2008, 10:53 PM
You're on your own, devil buddy.

There are no toilets on jumpers.

Thank you! And g'night!

Buh-bye.

Nitegate
February 16th, 2008, 11:30 PM
it's their extra food and water lmao

SoulReaver
February 17th, 2008, 12:28 AM
I mean, seriously... 5+ people stuck for an unknown number of days (certainly more than 1) on a jumper, there has to be toilet facilities in there somewhere, right? :lol:I hope so, or they'd be in deep s*** ...

Gaeth
February 17th, 2008, 01:34 AM
The Ancients actually had toilets. They did after all have human form bodies.

An Ancient toilet seat is actually a miniature stargate. Just before you "go" a miniature wormhole opens up in the toilet seat to a random unpopulated planet..... surely you can figure out the rest.

They'd have to be careful not to dial across a solar flare. Otherwise we'd have time traveling waste products.

Actionhank
February 17th, 2008, 02:15 AM
I mean, seriously... 5+ people stuck for an unknown number of days (certainly more than 1) on a jumper, there has to be toilet facilities in there somewhere, right? :lol:

I mean, does it drop out of the ceiling or rise from the floor when you press a button or what? It must be hidden somewhere! :D
Well... how am I gonna say this... - some urgencies can be put on a hold for quite a long time. I can confirm that personally. :D
We ate something we called "space cookies" that uhm kind of supported the hold. ;)

As for going out for a pee - thats not really a problem I think - any kind of receptable can be used for it. Maybe they even have Fremen suits on bord. LOOL

Alipeeps
February 17th, 2008, 02:39 AM
It can be said definitively that there are no toilets on the jumpers.

Um, no it can't.


Yeah, and thus he proved my theory that I had posted on the general discussion thread! YAY! :p

Unfortunately for you, Joe was being facetious, as usual. :D


I hope so, or they'd be in deep s*** ...

Ba-boom, tsshhh! :lol:

reddevil18
February 17th, 2008, 05:03 AM
Unfortunately for you, Joe was being facetious, as usual. :D


Hey, he may very well have been, but that just proves that we're on the same page...Children eating bunnies, I tell ya!

JSPuddlejumper
February 17th, 2008, 05:07 AM
I do not think the Ancients were that stupid.

They must have a pull out toilet somewhere!

reddevil18
February 17th, 2008, 05:14 AM
I do not think the Ancients were that stupid.
Conquering space and time? Easy! Making toilets? Errr....:S

MechaThor
February 17th, 2008, 06:26 AM
Don't be silly people in the Stargate Universe don't go to the toilet, which is why there are no toilets anywhere in Atlantis, the SCG on Cargo ships and Hataks!

But Seriously, I am sure bags and bottles where used, If only they had a Zat gun, its 3rd setting would have be useful!

I am sure at the end of that epsiode, some poor red shirt had the horrible job of cleaning that jumper!


I do not think the Ancients were that stupid.

They must have a pull out toilet somewhere!

Then you would need some a flusher system, same stoirage area or small airlock to push it into space, a water tank, paper! The Jumper already has too much stuff in it, they are not that big!

Vala_M
February 17th, 2008, 06:53 AM
JM's blog

Yeah, I don't believe that either. It would loose the jumper's atmosphere. I've learned that as nice as it is to have Joe Mallozzi tell us things we otherwise never would have known, not all answers should be taken as 100% accurate. No offense meant by that though.

Vala,

reddevil18
February 17th, 2008, 06:57 AM
Yeah, I don't believe that either. It would loose the jumper's atmosphere. I've learned that as nice as it is to have Joe Mallozzi tell us things we otherwise never would have known, not all answers should be taken as 100% accurate. No offense meant by that though.

Vala,

Well, stupid answer or not, serious or not, they would NOT lose the jumper's atmosphere. The front compartment is airtight. We've seen that numerous times...

ciannwn
February 17th, 2008, 07:16 AM
I think a porta potty

I've just looked these up on the internet and found one which is suitable for boating as well as caravans and camping. It's 381mm (15 ins) X 343 mm (13 ins) X 345 mm (12 ins) high and weighs 3.54 kg which is just under 8 lbs. Surely there'd be room for something like that on a Puddle Jumper.

kymeric
February 17th, 2008, 08:12 AM
Pretty sure they went in bottles or baggies. I remember reusing those mountain dew bottles during long raids in wow. XD

reddevil18
February 17th, 2008, 08:15 AM
Pretty sure they went in bottles or baggies. I remember reusing those mountain dew bottles during long raids in wow. XD
Bill, is that you?

nx01a
February 17th, 2008, 08:17 AM
Is he in drag?

reddevil18
February 17th, 2008, 08:20 AM
Is he in drag?
*cough* He prefers "disguise"...;)

nx01a
February 17th, 2008, 08:21 AM
You mean his 'I work for the secret government' disguise?

reddevil18
February 17th, 2008, 08:24 AM
You mean his 'I work for the secret government' disguise?
No, the "I cocoon Wraith Queens and take them to my lair to have my way with them, while wearing high heals" disguise...He even waxed his chest!

bluealien
February 17th, 2008, 08:29 AM
Well if they do have some "Hidden" toilets in the Jumpers then it raises the question of privacy issues. Does everyone have to look the other way.. or is this not a big thing amongst military types.

And what about washing facilities... no beards after a week?? They all looked nicely clean shaven so maybe there are hidden shower facilities as well... another privacy issue.... :D

Skydiver
February 17th, 2008, 08:34 AM
guys, the PJ WILL lose its atmosphere when you open the back. you will lose all those cubic feet of air not to mention the heat by exposing 75 degrees to absolute zero, even for a few seconds.

and while the PJ may have air scrubbers, they can't just keep MAKING oxygen out of nothing, not to mention the drain on the power supply to keep warming the back up.

Personally, i think joe's 'explanation' was more a quickly thought up response to a question that he likely thinks is silly, rather than a logical and logitically practical explanation

SoulReaver
February 17th, 2008, 08:35 AM
I do not think the Ancients were that stupid.

They must have a pull out toilet somewhere!yeah especially since they already have an intergalactic network of flushing systems..

Blencathra
February 17th, 2008, 08:43 AM
Yes they are men:zelenka25:. But at least there were no women, other wise the bathroom situtation would have gotten a little more complicated then peeing in a bottle.

Of course the women could use something like this.


http://www.shewee.com/

*cough*


.

reddevil18
February 17th, 2008, 08:44 AM
guys, the PJ WILL lose its atmosphere when you open the back. you will lose all those cubic feet of air not to mention the heat by exposing 75 degrees to absolute zero, even for a few seconds.

and while the PJ may have air scrubbers, they can't just keep MAKING oxygen out of nothing, not to mention the drain on the power supply to keep warming the back up.

Personally, i think joe's 'explanation' was more a quickly thought up response to a question that he likely thinks is silly, rather than a logical and logitically practical explanation

That may well be true about the explanation, but I still don't see the problem. You keep mentioning the power drain...What, are the Jumpers electric cars or something? I'm sure power consumption isn't an issue. And it will lose the atmosphere in the back, true, but we've already seen that they can open the hatch, close it, repressurize within seconds and they can all go to the back, without any problem. So, we can only speculate what the Jumper REALLY does with the air. Maybe it DOES produce it somehow. The point is that, logical or not, it's been established that they can do that without any side effects. I don't see why they couldn't do it now.

ciannwn
February 17th, 2008, 08:46 AM
And what about washing facilities... no beards after a week?? They all looked nicely clean shaven so maybe there are hidden shower facilities as well... another privacy issue.... :D

They learned a few tricks from Steve. Even though he was stuck in a cage on Atlantis for two weeks his hair remained immaculately groomed. :D

Icarium
February 17th, 2008, 08:51 AM
Well if they do have some "Hidden" toilets in the Jumpers then it raises the question of privacy issues. Does everyone have to look the other way.. or is this not a big thing amongst military types.


Well, I'm not sure but I think I saw toilet in the room which Ronon and Teal'c were supposed to share. It was just by the beds, in fact, in the very entrance. If they put a toilet in a place like that in a room, I think they don't care much about privacy ;) ;)

Icarium

Mitchell82
February 17th, 2008, 09:56 AM
Well, I'm not sure but I think I saw toilet in the room which Ronon and Teal'c were supposed to share. It was just by the beds, in fact, in the very entrance. If they put a toilet in a place like that in a room, I think they don't care much about privacy ;) ;)

Icarium

I've seen worse conditions believe me.

MIZA
February 17th, 2008, 10:06 AM
you all have great ideas, but i say hang your butt out the window?

reddevil18
February 17th, 2008, 10:11 AM
I wonder if this will go down in Stargate fandom history as "The Great Toilet Conundrum of Midway"...

The_Carpenter
February 17th, 2008, 10:24 AM
They have special Ancient waste removers.... beams the waste right out of you and into space, at least you better hope they work that way :S

Mitchell82
February 17th, 2008, 10:47 AM
They have special Ancient waste removers.... beams the waste right out of you and into space, at least you better hope they work that way :S

I prefer my ideaShepard ties Kav to the bench and then says "ok everyone ready aim fire!";)

kymeric
February 17th, 2008, 12:09 PM
They have group showers on every base ive seen. Soldiers arent shy about other soldiers seeing their pingaling.

Alipeeps
February 17th, 2008, 12:23 PM
Pretty sure they went in bottles or baggies. I remember reusing those mountain dew bottles during long raids in wow. XD

Eeeeeeeeew! TMI!!! :S

And now I'm having flashbacks to South Park's WOW episode.. :lol:

MIZA
February 17th, 2008, 01:07 PM
They have group showers on every base ive seen. Soldiers arent shy about other soldiers seeing their pingaling.



i guess you are TMI as well

Lady_of_Stargate
February 17th, 2008, 04:11 PM
This doesn't have to do with the jumpers, but on the subject of toilets...

Did anyone notice, when Dr.Lee was showing Ronon and Teal'c their quaters, that the toilet was like right there beside the door for everyone in the room to see? I know Dr.Lee said that there wasn't a lot of room on the Midway station, but it's not like it's a prison... I have trouble believing that they couldn't build a tiny public bathroom or something.:confused:

Jumper_One
February 17th, 2008, 04:24 PM
This doesn't have to do with the jumpers, but on the subject of toilets...

Did anyone notice, when Dr.Lee was showing Ronon and Teal'c their quaters, that the toilet was like right there beside the door for everyone in the room to see? I know Dr.Lee said that there wasn't a lot of room on the Midway station, but it's not like it's a prison... I have trouble believing that they couldn't build a tiny public bathroom or something.:confused:

you're right that is strange :S
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee163/Jumper_One/SGA/417%20Midway/Midway1.png

prion
February 17th, 2008, 05:20 PM
This doesn't have to do with the jumpers, but on the subject of toilets...

Did anyone notice, when Dr.Lee was showing Ronon and Teal'c their quaters, that the toilet was like right there beside the door for everyone in the room to see? I know Dr.Lee said that there wasn't a lot of room on the Midway station, but it's not like it's a prison... I have trouble believing that they couldn't build a tiny public bathroom or something.:confused:

someone's been watching too much OZ.... ;) however, a good reason to have an in-suite toilet (or whatever they're called) is if you need to quarantine some one. I'm sure they have some 'public' toilets on the station, but maybe they stuck it in there to apepase all the fans going "where are the toilets!"

Gaeth
February 17th, 2008, 06:58 PM
someone's been watching too much OZ.... ;) however, a good reason to have an in-suite toilet (or whatever they're called) is if you need to quarantine some one. I'm sure they have some 'public' toilets on the station, but maybe they stuck it in there to apepase all the fans going "where are the toilets!"

Yeah, and talk about luxury. You wouldn't even have to get up to go if you aimed right.

Jumper_One
February 17th, 2008, 07:03 PM
Yeah, and talk about luxury. You wouldn't even have to get up to go if you aimed right.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

fugiman
February 18th, 2008, 07:48 PM
I have not seen a thread about this and if I have missed then I am sorry


So we know that it takes about a month to go from the MW to the PG so going by the deddy would take a while so when Sheppard, McKay, Lee, the marines and the stupid guy (I forget his name) were on the Jumper where did they go to the bathroom and why were they all so clean wouldn't you think of being in a jumper after a week or so they wouldn't look that good?

reddevil18
February 18th, 2008, 07:51 PM
I have not seen a thread about this and if I have missed then I am sorry


So we know that it takes about a month to go from the MW to the PG so going by the deddy would take a while so when Sheppard, McKay, Lee, the marines and the stupid guy (I forget his name) were on the Jumper where did they go to the bathroom and why were they all so clean wouldn't you think of being in a jumper after a week or so they wouldn't look that good?

Sorry, but this HAS been discussed. Quite extensively, both in the general discussion thread and its very own thread. Actually, it's probably even more talked about than Ronon vs Teal'c...:)

Jumper_One
February 18th, 2008, 07:52 PM
actually there IS a thread about this ;) also: from JM's blog

Shawna writes: “Food, water, medical supplies…and no way to relieve themselves. What, did they use bottles or something?”

Answer: Nope. As with most long jumper flights, they go right in the back, then have everyone either pile into the cockpit area and seal it off, or hold on tight at which point the ramp is lowered and rapid decompression takes place, effectively clearing out any unwanted material. It’s a bit of a pain, but very effective.