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VironX
August 14th, 2005, 01:26 PM
Who will win in a fight? Ronon Dex or Teal'c?

Qasim
August 14th, 2005, 01:32 PM
Everyone knows Teal'c rules

AGateFan
August 14th, 2005, 01:35 PM
Teyla kicks both their az's :p

Seastallion
August 14th, 2005, 01:39 PM
Who will win in a fight? Ronon Dex or Teal'c?

Hmmm... Not sure.

Teal'c is much older, and has far more experiance in combat. He's also very strong, as well as skilled. He's as good at single combat, as he is at being a general of a great army. As First Prime of Apophis, that is essentially what he was... the Commanding General of Apophis' forces. His experiance has to count for something.

Ronon Dex is younger, but has been living the life of the desperate for the past 7 years. He's developed a truly killer instinct, though he has shown he can put in check when he need's to. He is a very skilled fighter, also quite strong (though I doubt he is as strong as Teal'c). He might have better agility than Teal'c which would stand for something. However, that is no guarantee of a victory... Remember Immhotep?? Hehe...

Over all, it mostly depends on the circumstances surrounding the fight, but I'd say either has a good chance. In unarmed, hand-to-hand combat, I think Teal'c would probably win. Then again, you never know. ;)

VironX
August 14th, 2005, 01:43 PM
dont let teal'cs age make you underestimate him, he is after all a jaffa. The tok'ra can live 200 years so i guess a jaffa could like bout that long. Teal'c being a bit over 100 means that hes atleast 35 since the average human life span is about 70-80 years.

Seastallion
August 14th, 2005, 02:07 PM
dont let teal'cs age make you underestimate him, he is after all a jaffa. The tok'ra can live 200 years so i guess a jaffa could like bout that long. Teal'c being a bit over 100 means that hes atleast 35 since the average human life span is about 70-80 years.

Actually, many Jaffa don't make it to 50 years old (killed in battle, don't-chya know?), because if you aren't a good warrior, your dead. Simple as that. Which of course, is why most Jaffa are pretty good fighters... they sorta have to be. Tea'c is not over a 100 years old, in fact I don't even think he's 90. Last I had heard he was like 80 something. Master Bra'Tac is one of the oldest Jaffa around, and he is about 140 now. (which, if the human life-span is 70, he's twice that... :p ) Teal'c has at least 5 or 6 decades ahead of him, assuming he doesn't get killed. Hopefully, he'll manage to avoid that. :)

Cycrow
August 14th, 2005, 02:34 PM
im pretty sure it was said that teal'c is over 100, but i cant remember what episode it was in

but jaffa dont live till there 100, Bra'tac was 135 and only had a few years left
if it wasn't for tritonin, he would prolly have died as he couldn't take on another symbiore coz it would have rejected him

Qasim
August 14th, 2005, 02:42 PM
It was in 'The Light'

Loren: Well how do you know how old you are?

Teal'c: I am 101 years of age.

Loren: You don't look that old.

Teal'c: So I have been told.

Loren: So when do you turn 102?

Teal'c: In 47 days.

TheCorpulent1
August 14th, 2005, 05:26 PM
I'd guess Dex, actually. No offense to Teal'c, but he's been stricken with a bit of the ol' Worf syndrome. He started out badass but as time's passed, he's been beaten down a hell of a lot, partly because he was the resident badass. It's like an initiation ritual: You want to establish that some villain's a badass fighter? Have him beat Teal'c. Maybe after another 2 or 3 seasons, Dex will start to level out with Teal'c, but for now he seems to be the newer, bigger, badder badass.

captain keys
August 14th, 2005, 06:34 PM
ronnon since tealc isnt usein his staff anymore srry tealc

JanusAncient
August 14th, 2005, 08:10 PM
Ronon please, he couldn't defeat Teal'c, if he had one hand tied behind his back, okay probably if that were the case. Ronon survived what appears to be only individual Wraith, hunting him for seven years, he set traps, but mostly he used the Stargate to avoid them. Teal'c, he was the First Prime of Apophis, for who knows how long, won battle after battle, and in alternate realities conquered Earth, the same would be true if he hadn't joined the team in this one, that is said, now he has killed Goa'uld, helped to down their rule, defeated Kull warriors, Replicators, and the aliens from "Foothold," oh yes rescued Sg-1, while partially blind, the list goes on people, Ronon is a bad guy, done in a few Wraith, but he comes nowhere close to having Teal'c' skill, and cunning as a warrior, soldier, leader, or tactician, so sit down Ronon, observe the way grown folks take care of business.

SG-4MarineLeader
August 14th, 2005, 09:19 PM
I'm guessing they fight to a draw, talk for a while, then go beat up the Goa'uld Zipacna, and Tod, the Wraith of the week.

captain keys
August 14th, 2005, 09:33 PM
ok ur right tealc would win

Xanderic
August 14th, 2005, 11:42 PM
I don't know.. Teal'c without Tretonin is quite weak as is Ford without the Wraith Enyzme but Ronan is on either so Ronan could beat both of them if they don't have their 'medicine'

Ouroboros
August 15th, 2005, 01:34 AM
Teal'c would win. Ronon had to take the cheap shot just to get Teyla down. Remember when Teal'c fought that Goa'uld who was impersonating a Jaffa leader. That was a lot more impressive than smacking Teyla whan she's not looking or the fight with Ford.

tofuchef
August 15th, 2005, 01:46 AM
ronon may be big.. but look at teal'c.. his guns are huge! i say 1 leg of ronon's is equivalent to 1 of teal'cs arm

Ascended Times.2
August 15th, 2005, 02:02 AM
I'm guessing they fight to a draw, talk for a while, then go beat up the Goa'uld Zipacna, and Tod, the Wraith of the week.

LOL! that'd prebably be true too. Anways, I think Ronen would win :) , Simply because of the fact that Teal'c hasn't been in hand to hand combat in a good while. Ronen, could probably take down everyone in the SGC and atlantis twice over :D , lol. on...i think 5 to one odds at a time. :rolleyes:
Ronen would probably just shoot Teal'c at first sight with his funky pistol anyway... :p
Although, Teal'c does have those huge muscles and "The Zat of the profits."
The one zat to kill all other zat users (enemy of course)

Lida
August 15th, 2005, 05:25 AM
ronon may be big.. but look at teal'c.. his guns are huge! i say 1 leg of ronon's is equivalent to 1 of teal'cs arm

As much as some people would like to think, size isn't that important in a fight, technique is. So I vote for Ronon. He didn't need a "cheap" shot to take down all the others in that fight scene (in Runner) and he held his own in Condemed. As for it being a "cheap" shot, it was Teyla who let her guard down, something you NEVER do in a fight, even a practice one. All's fair in love, war and fighting. ;)

Crichton
August 15th, 2005, 05:37 AM
pre-tretonin tealc would win.

season 9 tealc would lose, and he'd lose badly.

Eoin
August 15th, 2005, 05:44 AM
As much as some people would like to think, size isn't that important in a fight, technique is. So I vote for Ronon. He didn't need a "cheap" shot to take down all the others in that fight scene (in Runner) and he held his own in Condemed. As for it being a "cheap" shot, it was Teyla who let her guard down, something you NEVER do in a fight, even a practice one. All's fair in love, war and fighting. ;)
Big T has a 100 or so years of fighting,I think his technique would be great at this stage, he's after taking down more at one time than ronon took down in the eps where he was fighting, you have to remember aswell Tealc can take a beat'n and still win the fight. Tealc is the no. 1 fighter of all time :D , Tealc would dismantle ronon in 60 seconds :cool: , My money is on Tealc :D

Sobek
August 15th, 2005, 06:08 AM
I thought Teal'c's weakness with tretonin was just mental? Ofcourse if he hasn't taken a dose in a while he'd be weakened, but if that wasn't the case I'd say he's good old Teal'c. So I would say that Ronon's technique seems to be superior to Teal'c's, and that would assure him the victory in a fight. Teal'c is ofcourse stronger, but I don't think that would determine it.

immhotep
August 15th, 2005, 09:03 AM
Tealc: first prime of apophis for 80/90 years, vast combat experience, with both weapons and hand to hand, strong, quick senses and reflexes
Ronan: weapons and combat specialist, Runner from the greatest physical force yet encounter, killed many wraith, strong, agile, strategic and cunning mind .

ok it would depend on the type of fight, if you put them in a ring tealc would win, simply because tealc knows what boxing is! but if it was a kill or be killed, chase/hunt type fight with weapons and stuff ronan would win.
I want them to fight together, in fact the perfect team would be tealc, ronan, teyla and super ford - nothing could stop them, they are all 1 men/woman armys!

TheCorpulent1
August 15th, 2005, 09:28 AM
Teal'c would win. Ronon had to take the cheap shot just to get Teyla down. Remember when Teal'c fought that Goa'uld who was impersonating a Jaffa leader. That was a lot more impressive than smacking Teyla whan she's not looking or the fight with Ford.
Now, see, I thought Teal'c really sucked in that fight against Imhotep. Imhotep obviously had the fight in the bag, but he just had to let his guard down and brag. Imhotep only lost because he didn't understand something Teal'c did: You never let your guard down until your opponent is actually dead, not just at your mercy.

Dex, on the other hand, held his own against SuperFord, who is apparently capable of killing Wraith without a problem. I got the impression that Wraith are stronger than Jaffa. They certainly take more bullets to put down. Anyway, it doesn't make sense to go by a list of the impressive feats each character has accomplished, since Dex has 3 episodes under his belt while Teal'c has 8 seasons and change under his. Of course Teal'c is gonna have more impressive feats.

macktheknife
August 15th, 2005, 09:33 AM
Ronon's Pistol > Teal'c Staff.

TheCorpulent1
August 15th, 2005, 09:34 AM
Ronon's Pistol > Teal'c Staff.
This is true. :)

kirmit
August 15th, 2005, 09:53 AM
Teal'c no doubt in my mind, even season 9 teal'c. Teal'c can predict ur move before u make it, he is highly skilled and has sooo much brute strength. Ronon is a big guy yer and very skilled but i think all that is dwarfed next to teal'c. What wuld be interesting is if teal'c joined Atlantis and took Ronon under his wing, if that happened and ronon learnt all tealc's moves I think the student wuld surpass the master.

Qasim
August 15th, 2005, 10:26 AM
I think the student wuld surpass the master.or result in an anti-climax due to overconfidence ala Obi-wan/Anakin style

JMomoaFan
August 15th, 2005, 11:38 AM
As much as some people would like to think, size isn't that important in a fight, technique is. So I vote for Ronon. He didn't need a "cheap" shot to take down all the others in that fight scene (in Runner) and he held his own in Condemed. As for it being a "cheap" shot, it was Teyla who let her guard down, something you NEVER do in a fight, even a practice one. All's fair in love, war and fighting. ;)
I think you are right. I would bet on Ronan to win.although Teal'c is very good to.

veneticuss
August 15th, 2005, 11:54 AM
Tealc: first prime of apophis for 80/90 years, vast combat experience, with both weapons and hand to hand, strong, quick senses and reflexes
Ronan: weapons and combat specialist, Runner from the greatest physical force yet encounter, killed many wraith, strong, agile, strategic and cunning mind .

ok it would depend on the type of fight, if you put them in a ring tealc would win, simply because tealc knows what boxing is! but if it was a kill or be killed, chase/hunt type fight with weapons and stuff ronan would win.
I want them to fight together, in fact the perfect team would be tealc, ronan, teyla and super ford - nothing could stop them, they are all 1 men/woman armys!
Now, you forgot about one very important asepct ;]

and as McKay would say(see ep. Letters from P.): LEADERSHIP!! :P

Ouroboros
August 16th, 2005, 01:51 AM
Now, see, I thought Teal'c really sucked in that fight against Imhotep. Imhotep obviously had the fight in the bag, but he just had to let his guard down and brag. Imhotep only lost because he didn't understand something Teal'c did: You never let your guard down until your opponent is actually dead, not just at your mercy.

Nah what I was trying to get at is that he took all those vicious shots to the body and head from a weapon swung by a guy with Goa'uld strength and didn't even get KOed. That's pretty damn badass.

kirmit
August 16th, 2005, 06:55 AM
If anyone wants prove on how tough teal'c is watch season 8's Affinity.

Blue007
August 16th, 2005, 07:50 AM
Ok..here's a stupid question..why would they be fighting anyway...would they not be on the same team???

Of course if you need to have an answer, you know who I would pick already.

Avatar28
August 16th, 2005, 09:22 AM
Tough one. I wondered the same thing watching Ronon fight in Condemned. In the end, though, I would have to give the edge to Teal'c just based on his much greater experience. Yeah, Ronon's good. He'd sure enough whoop all our butts (combined), but I still think Teal'c has a slight edge. If they did fight (practice or whatever), I think that they'd both beat the crap out of each other then, a couple of days later after they had recovered, go out and beat the crap out of the bad guys together, as someone else said.

IMForeman
August 16th, 2005, 11:09 AM
Very tough fight to call. Ronon is VERY fast. He's so fast, that I barely saw what he did when he grabbed that knife in "Condemned." It was just "WHOOSH!", and suddenly he's got the knife pressed against the guy's throat. Very, very fast. He's also skilled, and very good at handling pain.

Teal'c though, he's got immense strength, an incredible level of focus and calm, a great deal of experience. He also handles physicl pain to superhuman levels.

Overall, although I think our Jaffa friend would get bloodied up pretty badly, Teal'c would in the end prevail. His clarity of purpose is an edge Ronon lacks. Ronon seems to fight just to fight, but he doesn't really have any goals that have made themselves apparant. He also seems very impatient and impulsive, while Teal'c is a very measured person. No word or deed with Teal'c is ever wasted, really... at least no non-ice cream related deed. Basically, when Teal'c puts his mind to something, he's essentially indominable.

-IMF

TheCorpulent1
August 16th, 2005, 05:57 PM
Nah what I was trying to get at is that he took all those vicious shots to the body and head from a weapon swung by a guy with Goa'uld strength and didn't even get KOed. That's pretty damn badass.
Well, I'll give him that; Teal'c is definitely very, very tough and can take a lot of punishment. More than Ronon, I'd imagine. Maybe I'm just underestimating Teal'c since I've had 8 seasons to watch him get his ass kicked, whereas Ronon's still making his mark as the token badass, so he can't start getting beat up too often just yet. ;)

GateMan2000
August 17th, 2005, 04:26 AM
My moneys on Teal'c!

captain keys
August 17th, 2005, 04:34 AM
the only way ronnon could beat tealc is if ronnon was a good 15yards away and had a clear shot at him but in hand to hand tealc would mop the floor with his but

UNRE4L
August 18th, 2005, 08:42 AM
Teal'C would kick some serious Runner Butt in a Hand-to-Hand fight. He has WAAAY too much experience.
But if Teal'C had a P90 (or 2) then Ronans gun would be useless.

Ancient 1
August 18th, 2005, 10:28 AM
It would be one helluva fight; no doubt, but my money would be on Ronon. He seems a lot quicker and uses the same fighting style as Imhotep. The only reason Teal'c won over him was because of that good old goa'uld arrogance. Ronon doesn't have that problem...:rolleyes:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/7of9/man_jumping_to_bid_sm_nwm.gif

Dr Weir
August 18th, 2005, 10:42 AM
Definitely Teal'c, he'll never give up but nor would Ronon but eventually if Ronon would have to he would. Teal'c never would as even through he no longer has the symbiote, he likes to pretend he does (as shown in that ep when he had to learn to walk again).

Lida
August 18th, 2005, 10:48 AM
In hand to hand combat, despite Teal'c size and training, Ronon would win. He is also very well trained, and has the speed that Teal'c lacks. As for endurance, Ronon is probably much more physically fit than Teal'c, due to 7 years of survival in the wild and running from the Wraith.

(I also think Ronon's gun would make the P90 cry.....remember the demonstration? ;) )

TheCorpulent1
August 18th, 2005, 11:03 AM
I don't know, I think Dex's gun and a P90 would deliver comparable amounts of damage in the same amount of time. There's a lot to be said for rapid firing rates. Just look at how the single-shot staff weapons stand up to the P90s.

Egad... I think this could be our first disagreement. :eek:

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
August 18th, 2005, 11:12 AM
Mmmm. I pick draw although I'd put my money on Teal'c

Lida
August 18th, 2005, 11:29 AM
Ok..here's a stupid question..why would they be fighting anyway...would they not be on the same team???

Of course if you need to have an answer, you know who I would pick already.

No, it is NOT a stupid question. I wish I had asked it. :D

And we both know who would win. ;)

Ancient 1
August 18th, 2005, 11:36 AM
No, it is NOT a stupid question. I wish I had asked it. :D

And we both know who would win. ;)
It's a cyber pay per view event designed to make funny money...and interesting "talk":rolleyes:

Dr Weir
August 18th, 2005, 04:03 PM
It's a cyber pay per view event designed to make funny money...and interesting "talk":rolleyes:
If that's the case I'm there!! :D My money will be on Teal'c! :)

Apogeal Alpha 01
August 18th, 2005, 05:53 PM
Ronon. Not that I want him to kill the big guy, they would be allies in any life. Probably friends as well.

To me the Jaffa look to be trained to be efficient, obedient, and relentless fighters. They're not necessarily the most skilled. SG-1 regularly took out Jaffa in battle, with weapons or without. They sometimes looked like cannon fodder. Teal'C would be among the most skilled Jaffa, and the smartest being a first to Apophis. Nevertheless, dying for your God is a different skillset than living like Ronon did, outsmarting and killing the Wraith for seven years. I think Ronon would win.

Ancient 1
August 19th, 2005, 12:28 AM
If that's the case I'm there!! :D My money will be on Teal'c! :)
Well, that's your decision, but my friends in Vegas, and Monte Carlo have him as a 2:1 underdog. :eek: :D

sgatelvr
August 19th, 2005, 01:37 PM
I say Teal'c. Dex has some pretty nifty moves, but Teal'c is more than capable of conforming in such a situation. Teal'c has the experience and patience. And, as someone already pointed out, he sure can take a beating, and still win. So, my money is on Teal'c! :D

Wraith_King
August 19th, 2005, 02:11 PM
While id have to go with Teal'c because Ronons moves didnt impress me they were too much of do this this then this instead of do this.

Eoin
August 19th, 2005, 03:24 PM
I say it again> teal'c would win he'd mop the floor with ronon :D

Blue007
August 19th, 2005, 03:55 PM
It's a cyber pay per view event designed to make funny money...and interesting "talk":rolleyes:
Ok. I'd take a piece of that action...my money's on the DEXTER MAN...but let me know who wins...'cause I can't watch :S

Perriman33
August 20th, 2005, 01:10 AM
As much as I like teal'c, I think ronon would splat him purely on what I've seen of both of them fighting. Teal'c can take a lot more punishment but ronon is very fast and skilled in hand to hand. ;)

thorshammer
August 20th, 2005, 05:52 AM
Teal'c would win! He's stonger, better, faster...

Lone Wolf
January 19th, 2006, 11:18 AM
I`d pick Ronan any day.

But I think what it basically comes down to in this poll is wheter you`re a bigger SG1 or Atlantis fan. Since I`m a huge Atlantis fan I guess I`m subjective in picking Ronan. As is an SG1 fan picking Teal`c.

But still...:ronan:

Pharaoh Atem
January 19th, 2006, 04:34 PM
it might be even depends if there are using weapons or not

hand to hand teal'c wins

if it is weapons EX intars maybe ronon but we all know how good teal'c is with his staff

jckfan55
January 19th, 2006, 05:44 PM
Teal'c. He's strong, has experience and I don't think he'd lose his cool.

Ouroboros
January 19th, 2006, 11:26 PM
As I've seen more of Dex in the series I'm even more convinced now that Teal'c would whip his ass.

Dex is a rage filled out of control nutter with a overly flashy fighting style full of things like spinning arial punches and other stupidity.

Teal'c by contrast is as cool as they come, focused, disciplined and his fighting style is more to the point and free of silly from what I can recall. He's also what, 90 years old to Dex's 20-30 something. That should tell you right there who's going to win. He survived 90 years as a Jaffa! A Jaffa! You know the SG-universe's favorite moving paper target. That makes Ronan's run from the Wraith look like an icecream picnic at Disney land.

Zamboni
January 20th, 2006, 12:52 AM
If they fought, they would exchange a few blows then decide to respect each other with a bow of their heads then enjoy some ice cream at the cafe inside SGC.

NakedJehutyV2
January 20th, 2006, 01:22 AM
we'll see when teal'c goes to atlantis

Zamboni
January 20th, 2006, 01:31 AM
I don't think Teal'C will ever go to Atlantis... He has no business there. If anything he should be on the Jaffa consul or something.

Maybe Ronan will come to Earth? Nah don't see that happening either.

Lone Wolf
January 20th, 2006, 02:35 AM
To tell you the truth...like I said, between the characters I`d pick Ronan to win any day.

But honestly, as far as the actors go, none of them seems like a good fighter. Now, I`m a huge kickboxing/boxing and martial arts fan and I`ve seen countless in-ring matches as well as streetfights and I can tell you that neither Jason nor Chris seem like they could carry a fight well. Thei`re both big...that`s about it. Other than that their moves are obviously studio-learned.

Rainbow is another story...I don`t know if he`s ever practiced any form of martial arts but he`s moves are great and they look realistic. The guy`s got it in his blood.

Peoples_General
January 21st, 2006, 12:31 PM
Zelenka in a Kull Warrior armor suit will beat them! LOL

Exiled Master
January 23rd, 2006, 10:25 AM
I don't think Teal'C will ever go to Atlantis... He has no business there. If anything he should be on the Jaffa consul or something.

Maybe Ronan will come to Earth? Nah don't see that happening either.Well, I can see some Jaffa fleeing to Atlantis, maybe. I'd say that Ronon would win because his gun is easier to wield than a staff. Give Tealc the weapon on the Kull suit, and he wins, based on firing rate.

Osiris-RA
January 23rd, 2006, 10:30 AM
Well, I always wanted to know what Dex and Teyla looked like as flapjacks. :p ;)


But honestly, as far as the actors go, none of them seems like a good fighter. Now, I`m a huge kickboxing/boxing and martial arts fan and I`ve seen countless in-ring matches as well as streetfights and I can tell you that neither Jason nor Chris seem like they could carry a fight well. Thei`re both big...that`s about it. Other than that their moves are obviously studio-learned.

Oh, come on now. All those muscles can't be for decoration. I'm sure they'd be pretty good in a boxing match, or something, maybe not against a pro, but they can - at least Chris - do a little heavy pounding of their own. They're both pretty fast on their feet, and it's not that hard to box, for real or fo fun. I should know...:D

2ndgenerationalteran
January 24th, 2006, 11:14 PM
this is a pointless question.

Lone Wolf
January 24th, 2006, 11:49 PM
No, it`s not...more of a CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH kinda question ;)

Lord Willow
January 25th, 2006, 06:46 AM
definetly teal'c, ronon is jumpy and all, teal'c would win this fight very easy

jumper13
January 25th, 2006, 10:02 AM
My vote goes to Ronan ;-)

SGFerrit
January 26th, 2006, 08:22 AM
Both are great fighters, i dont think i could choose. I think tealc has more discipline though, which could actually help win a fight.

But did you see bad tealc smash good Camerons head against the side of the Prommie in Ripple Effect?

Pazuzu
January 28th, 2006, 02:32 AM
very hard to say who would win.
In my humble opinion Teal'c would win because of his vast experience and his calmness(serenity). It is a good advantage in a battle. Just think of those shaolin guys.
It's curious though how Ronon reacted in Critical Mass. He just moped the floor with the goa'uld, although a goa'uld has the power of many men, as everyone knows.

Pazuzu
January 28th, 2006, 02:42 AM
the only place I can think of where they could start to fight is in Atlantis and I dont't think it would be Teal'c who would start it. Has anyone observed how threatened Ronon feels when someone new is present espeacely when that someone might be phisically equal to him? And, when in a fight, he's almost beyound control.
Teal'c doesn't have that "beeing affraid" or "I'm gonna take you down" look in his eyes. When he starts fighting you'll know it after you've been KO or something.

Murchie
February 12th, 2006, 04:55 PM
As simple as the title, since both obviously seem to be the muscles of the flagship teams, bit of a wonder which one would be better. What you think?
:tealc: :ronan:

DrMongol
February 12th, 2006, 04:56 PM
Teal'c, if he can kill Wayne Brady, he can kill Ronan.

Eoin
February 12th, 2006, 05:00 PM
This topic has already been done before ;)
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=15720&highlight=teal%27c+V+ronon

AGateFan
February 12th, 2006, 05:06 PM
This topic has already been done before ;)
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=15720&highlight=teal%27c+V+ronon
How about

Teal'c with Carter piggy back vs Ronan with Teyla piggy back.

Has THAT topic been done before?

Eoin
February 12th, 2006, 05:12 PM
How about

Teal'c with Carter piggy back vs Ronan with Teyla piggy back.
lmao...now that'd be someting to watch :D


Has THAT topic been done before?
lol AFAIK...no
and yeah...i do realise your being sarcastic

Red Tigress
February 12th, 2006, 05:55 PM
How about

Teal'c with Carter piggy back vs Ronan with Teyla piggy back.


So...would that look like a chicken fight in a pool, or what?;) And would Carter and Teyla be allowed weapons?

Eoin
February 12th, 2006, 06:10 PM
So...would that look like a chicken fight in a pool, or what?;) And would Carter and Teyla be allowed weapons?
lol all i can picture now is Sam + Teal'c & Teyla + Ronon in the old tv show gladiators :D

Bragi
February 12th, 2006, 06:12 PM
Teal'c, if he can kill Wayne Brady, he can kill Ronan.

Good point. Very good point.

I'm pretty sure when Aries' First Prime showed up I heard someone in Maybourne's village yell:

"Oh sh*t! It's Wayne Brady, son!"

Althought that might have been me so.......

DrMongol
February 12th, 2006, 06:50 PM
Good point. Very good point.

I'm pretty sure when Aries' First Prime showed up I heard someone in Maybourne's village yell:

"Oh sh*t! It's Wayne Brady, son!"

Althought that might have been me so.......
Yea, I actually heard that too.



Although that might have been you so......

Endeavour
February 13th, 2006, 02:55 AM
And would Carter and Teyla be allowed weapons?

No weapons. Only jello.



Random Teal'c quote: "I have heard of a place where humans do battle in a ring of jello"...

andrelage
February 13th, 2006, 03:02 AM
i think Teal'c will win hands down.

Major Melton
February 13th, 2006, 03:04 AM
Teal'c would kick his ass good.:teal'c :tealc:

buzlighty1
February 13th, 2006, 03:27 AM
I have my bets on Ronon.

Auralis
February 13th, 2006, 03:56 AM
Teal'c because he is the vastly superior character and not some mostly boring grunt.

And for real, Teal'C, he has all the experiance, prowness and most of all, the clam head to win. ronan is just to impulsive, which will allow a clam an dsmart opponent to just outthink him.

Commander Ivanova
February 13th, 2006, 05:22 AM
No weapons. Only jello.

Random Teal'c quote: "I have heard of a place where humans do battle in a ring of jello"...


Like your thinking! Can they have leather bikinis, or would they be just for the guys?

Red Tigress
February 13th, 2006, 06:35 AM
Well, Ronon's got the advantage about carrying 20 hidden knives in his hair alone.

AutumnDream
February 13th, 2006, 07:49 AM
And he did hardcore wraith training for 7 years straight. He was probably doing melee combat a couple times a day. :D

But Teal'c rules too. Maybe he could tell some Jaffa jokes.

Kelt'ar
February 13th, 2006, 09:50 AM
Well, I used to think Ronan was stronger, but after seeing that closeline AR teal'c Served to Mitchell...ouch....It is difficult to match em up.

JUNIOR
February 13th, 2006, 07:26 PM
Who will win in a fight? Ronon Dex or Teal'c?

Are we talking Teal'c with a Symbiote or without? The old Teal'c with a symbiote would beat Ronon with no problem but the Teal'c now would have to put forth some effort in order to beat Ronon in hand to hand combat.

JUNIOR
February 13th, 2006, 07:43 PM
As much as some people would like to think, size isn't that important in a fight, technique is. So I vote for Ronon. He didn't need a "cheap" shot to take down all the others in that fight scene (in Runner) and he held his own in Condemed. As for it being a "cheap" shot, it was Teyla who let her guard down, something you NEVER do in a fight, even a practice one. All's fair in love, war and fighting. ;)


Ronon is fighting regular old humans in SGA not Teal’c. I think that Ronon is more agile than Teal'c but is not stronger, and if Teal'c laid a couple of punches on Ronon he'd be down for the count I can't say the same would be true with Ronon especially if Teal'c still had a Goa’uld in his stomach.

adk06
February 13th, 2006, 08:06 PM
Heh remember "AFFINITY"

Daniel-Saying it as though he's not surpsied "Yea I heard 3 ko's first round"

Anyway teal'c got that strong because he's a Jaffa, jaffa r by nature stronger and live longer.
Teal'c had the advantage of the goa'uld symbiote (granted it's replaced with tratonin but it still does the same thing)
Look at bratc he's like 23847293847 years old (136 actually.. i think)
anyway in a fight
Teal'C would knock Ronan out, I think it may be a fair fight if Ronan was on the Enzyme

jenks
February 13th, 2006, 09:31 PM
As much as some people would like to think, size isn't that important in a fight, technique is. So I vote for Ronon. He didn't need a "cheap" shot to take down all the others in that fight scene (in Runner) and he held his own in Condemed. As for it being a "cheap" shot, it was Teyla who let her guard down, something you NEVER do in a fight, even a practice one. All's fair in love, war and fighting. ;)

Maybe on TV, not in real life I regret to inform you...

jenks
February 13th, 2006, 09:36 PM
Oh and I'm not sure about Ronan V's Teal'c, I'd just like to point out that it was abit strange how Ronan could throw the Goa'uld on Atlantis about like a rag doll... :rolleyes:

Red Tigress
February 13th, 2006, 09:38 PM
Ronon throws most things around like rag dolls. Too bad he didn't get a shot at Kavanaugh, though.

Auralis
February 14th, 2006, 12:26 AM
Oh and I'm not sure about Ronan V's Teal'c, I'd just like to point out that it was abit strange how Ronan could throw the Goa'uld on Atlantis about like a rag doll... :rolleyes:


Well, a goa'uld is much stronger then a human, but he is not heavier.

Daniel_Shanks
February 15th, 2006, 08:38 PM
Heya Stargate Fans!

Who would win out of Tealc'c and Ronon?

Who would win in a 1 on 1 man power?

Who would win in a melee Knife fight?

Who would win in a Gun fight?

Who would win overall?

And most important...whos is your more favourite out of them???

!!!BUT!!!! You Must State Your Reasons!!!

Cheers
Daniel_Shanks

plaw15
February 15th, 2006, 08:45 PM
Teal'c would win all of them.

XxDark-LordxX
February 15th, 2006, 10:17 PM
someone forgot reason... i like teal'c better but thats a tough one... for everyone here itll be whose ur fave basicaly.. because theres no way to measure the 2 of them... altough teal'c is a jaffa who are bred to fight... so ill go with teal'c on everything

NakedJehutyV2
February 15th, 2006, 10:36 PM
ronon

deckard
February 15th, 2006, 10:58 PM
Teal'c. He's like 90 years old, so he's been kicking ass for 60 more years than Ronan, and still stronger than humans even on tritonan. This is of course unless Ronan gets smart enough to take it away, then Teal'c is screwed.

Commander Ivanova
February 16th, 2006, 12:32 AM
Not another Teal'c v Ronon thread! I've seen at least 2 already. Please use the search function before starting new threads. Keeps the forum nice 'n' tidy and avoids aggravation.

DrGemini2405
February 16th, 2006, 04:10 AM
Teal'c easily...

what about Teal'c Vs Teyla?

(apologies if it's been done already!)

Atlantian_Taker
February 16th, 2006, 06:15 AM
Well I'd say Teal'c, I sure like Ronon but hello? It is Teal'c!!! hehehe He has a lot more experience in everything...well exept in Wraith things but who cares he'll fight Ronon not a wraith hehe. Anyways I'd like to see them fight as a team kicking Wraith and Goa'uld @$$ hehehe. Please take Teyla and Ronon to the SGC I so wannaa see their reactions :).

As a very wise man said: "Further attempt to get to the Stargate will result in physical injury :P"....or something like that I don't remember well, that is a very deep quote of Teal'c hahaha

Endeavour
February 16th, 2006, 08:32 AM
I'm not sure why so many people immediately say "Teal'c". Teal'c had a lot of trouble beating immhotep as well as other goa'uld (Kronos is one other example). Ronan was able to knock down mystery_goa'uld_number_13 that had taken over Caldwell with ease.

I'm sure at some point this question will be answered in the traditional meet-in-a-dark-place-and-fight-until-someone-introduces-them manner. We're overdue for an SG-1 and SG-A crossover ;)

Dromag67
February 16th, 2006, 08:38 AM
I would love to see the trust implant Ronon with a symbiote and have him go back to earth and have Teal'c beat the sh!t out of him. :D

Kelt'ar
February 16th, 2006, 08:46 AM
I'm not sure why so many people immediately say "Teal'c". Teal'c had a lot of trouble beating immhotep as well as other goa'uld (Kronos is one other example). Ronan was able to knock down mystery_goa'uld_number_13 that had taken over Caldwell with ease.

I'm sure at some point this question will be answered in the traditional meet-in-a-dark-place-and-fight-until-someone-introduces-them manner. We're overdue for an SG-1 and SG-A crossover ;)

I missed that episode, but wasn't Teal'c recently tortured by Yu right before he fought Imhotep?

:ronananime16: :tealcanime23:

Jedi_Master_Bra'tac
February 16th, 2006, 08:57 AM
Teal'c. He's like 90 years old, so he's been kicking ass for 60 more years than Ronan, and still stronger than humans even on tritonan. This is of course unless Ronan gets smart enough to take it away, then Teal'c is screwed.
"Ronan Gets smart enough"? He is the dumbest person in TV. "what would sheppard watch on TV?", If there was a thing in his head then it would know the answer. Other examples that i can't be bothered to write down

TEAL'C:tealc:

Galilahi
February 26th, 2006, 05:53 PM
Well, a goa'uld is much stronger then a human, but he is not heavier.
well yes, you could make the arguemnt that ronon would lose that fight, but the ep was coming to an end we wanted to see cauldwell get popped. maybe it was because cauldwell is getting up there.

Chaos47
September 13th, 2006, 05:34 PM
I thought about this one day and can't come up with an answer (Hypothetical senario): Who would win in a fight, Teal'c or Ronan?

GRIM
September 13th, 2006, 05:55 PM
Teal'c easily

rarocks24
September 13th, 2006, 05:55 PM
After Sateda I'm not so sure.

jds1982
September 13th, 2006, 06:02 PM
Teal'c by a long shot. Ronon is what I like to call Teal'c light.

rarocks24
September 13th, 2006, 06:05 PM
All Teal'c has is muscle, tons of it. Ronon is a bit more lean. Leaner means faster. Teal'c has to work to move all that muscle. Ronon is a lot more limber. In this case, Agility is key.

ciri93
September 13th, 2006, 06:06 PM
Teal'c would kick his butt...not even close...

LadyBozi
September 13th, 2006, 06:09 PM
I think Teyla can take both of them down. lol.. just playing.. uhm.. I think Ronon would win =] He seems faster.

GRIM
September 13th, 2006, 06:10 PM
Teal'c has Jaffa combat training also

jds1982
September 13th, 2006, 06:12 PM
All Teal'c has is muscle, tons of it. Ronon is a bit more lean. Leaner means faster. Teal'c has to work to move all that muscle. Ronon is a lot more limber. In this case, Agility is key.

Nah Teal'c would just kick him through a door and say "Indeed".
Plus Teal'c is over a hundred so he's got years of experience on his side, not to mention dreadlocks are a tactical liability on Ronon's part.

jetvlt
September 13th, 2006, 06:19 PM
teal'c was THE head warrior for one of the most powerful system lords.. meaning whenever apophis wanted to exercise that power, it was teal'c that would have done most of the legwork...

teal'c would put ronon down without breaking a sweat.

plaw15
September 13th, 2006, 06:31 PM
Teal'c would win even though ronan has more fire in and meaness to him.

jds1982
September 13th, 2006, 06:34 PM
Let's put it this way, Teal'c helped destroy the race that oppressed his people, has Ronon?

Franklyn Blaze
September 13th, 2006, 06:39 PM
Tee!

Snowgate
September 13th, 2006, 07:14 PM
Teal'C. 80+ years of being in the warrior business gives him a nice edge, I think. :D

DANIquinn
September 13th, 2006, 07:20 PM
I'm gonna have to go with Teal'c on this one. He is by far the more experienced warrior. Though Ronan certainly would give a good showing.

Descent
September 13th, 2006, 07:51 PM
Ronon, Teal'cs good but Ron's one hell of a fighter. And quicker too. :ronan:

The Ori
September 14th, 2006, 07:02 AM
Teal'c by 2 billion miles he would just look at Ronan and Ronan would fall over!!!

Kingomon
September 14th, 2006, 07:07 AM
Teal'c is the best thanks to
Bratac's Teachings
T-Stuff
and he can use staffs and P-90s like the best of them
:tealc39: :tealc44:

N8ball88
September 14th, 2006, 07:09 AM
I think Teal'C would win. He's got the experience and the muscle. Ronan might be more agile, but Teal'c would outlast him and it wouldn't take much for him to put Ronan down.

icetears
September 14th, 2006, 04:08 PM
I think Teal'c. He is a much more experienced warrior and a lot stronger.

chazevelt
September 14th, 2006, 04:16 PM
I think Ronan. He's just a wild man. Teal'c would think it thru and wonder why they were fighting when they were on the same side, and he would try not to do permanent damage... while Ronan would just go balastic, not caring who Teal'c was or why they were going at it. Teal'c is used to sparring and training- roughly, yes- but Ronan fights like a dog who has tasted blood. No holds barred.

Neorapsta
September 14th, 2006, 04:25 PM
Teal'c would easily, as Ronan's nothing without his big gun.

Origin1981
September 14th, 2006, 06:05 PM
Teal'c Teal'c Teal'c Teal'c Teal'c Teal'c Teal'c Teal'c the crowd would be roaring after he opened a whole case of wup*ss on Ronan. I also want to see Teal'c fight a wraith.

MasterPower
September 14th, 2006, 07:06 PM
I'm going to say Teal'c because for ten years he's been kicking some major, alien behind. Ronan has only been on Atlantis for a season now.

Pasankoon
September 14th, 2006, 07:06 PM
Teal'c all the way. Being a well built jaffa he is far stronger and faster. Ronan might be more agile but that doesn't nessesary mean faster reflexes. Teal'c being the first prime of a powerful system lord plus having nearly a 100 years of experience would be far more skilled and built up in his fighting efficiency.

GreyFox
September 14th, 2006, 07:57 PM
Ronon by so so so so far.

teal'c got own'd by goauld simmons while ronon easily ownd goauld caldwell.

Freekzilla
September 14th, 2006, 09:54 PM
Ronon by so so so so far.

teal'c got own'd by goauld simmons while ronon easily ownd goauld caldwell.

Finally someone with some common sense. Let look at it this way:

1.) A Jaffa is strong partly because of his symbiote.
2.) Teal'c has no symbiote, the trutonin mostly serves as a immune system, not a extra source of strength.
3.) A hosted Goa'uld is atleast slightly stronger than a Jaffa, or equal in strength
4.) Ronon easily man handled a hosted Goa'uld, Col. Caldwell.

So, Ronon should have an edge over Teal'c and win. But let's look at it another way.

a.) Strength - See reason #4 above. Although, I would say Teal'c is no ordinary Jaffa, so I think this is extremely close. In raw power, I'd go with Teal'c by a hair.
b.) Speed - This goes to Ronon. He is clearly faster.
c.) Agility - This easily goes to Ronon.
d.) Endurance - Toss up. Ronon was a runner, so he had to of been used to prolonged situations. On the other hand, Teal'c has the heart of a lion. The mental strength one has plays a large role in endurance.
e.) fighting style - Ronon is has a martial arts style. Teal'c is more of a heavy boxer. If Ronon could keep moving, he could wear down Teal'c and win. But if Teal'c hits him with one good shot, Ronon would be slowed down quite a bit and be hurt.

Point is, I don't think this could be decided in a few minutes as to who would win. More likely, if the two ever faught a "to the death" kind of fight, I think it would probably last hours, if not days. It all depends on whose fight is fought. A slow "ground and pound" would go Teal'c's way. A faster paced "float and sting" would go Ronon's way.

Either way, it would be one hell of a fight. Bigger and better than Fraser vs.Ali, or Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant. LOL!!! Still, in the end, I'd have to say Ronon would win, by a hair. But it would cost him a great deal. I'd certainly pay good money to have front row seats for that fight!!!

SoulReaver
September 15th, 2006, 12:30 AM
Much as I'd (really, really, really I mean REALLY - did I mention really?) like to say Teal'c without hesitation, I fear the odds may not turn out in his favor, from the physical viewpoint anyway :(

Both are excellent fighters, albeit with different style


but physically speaking:

Teal'c is a jaffa, jaffas have the superhuman strength of the goauld yes...but problem is, Teal'c no longer has his symbiote. Now we would expect tretonin to have exactly the same effect as a symbiote (since that's the substance symbiotes produce) but as seen in the show that's not the case tretonin only grants health but not any special strength. Teal'c is still very strong for a human (that's what Frasier said) but certainly not super-strong as he was before
(Actually ever since he lost his symbiote I was hoping the writers would give him a new one so we'd have the former Teal'c again - they didn't :mad: :mad: )

We also know that Ronan's physiology is "special" (for example the wraith can't feed on him) and we've seen him take on a wraith in single combat & win, wraith also have superhuman strength which suggests Ronan has similar strength (also the way he flung Michael to the wall when he saw him train with Teyla & thought he was attacking her)

If so Ronan would have the edge. Sorry Teal'c :(

kirmit
September 15th, 2006, 01:18 AM
Ronon by so so so so far.

teal'c got own'd by goauld simmons while ronon easily ownd goauld caldwell.

Ronon took cadwell by surprise, Teal'c could've done the exact same in the same situation.

Tealc would win definately, his brute strength could knock Ronon out with one hit. Also I don't get the debate about ronon's agility and speed giving him the advantage, teal'c has super speed reflexes, seen in 'theshold', anything ronon could try to do with his speed tealc could easily counter. Yes symbiote teal'c was stronger but since teal'c lost his symbiote he's pumped up alot, probably gaining back the strength he lost. Also Ronon is far too cocky, he'd go into the fight thinking it would be a piece of cake then get knocked on his butt, like what happened with the wraith king teal'c analyses his opponent, pinpoints their weak point and uses that against them.

Freekzilla
September 15th, 2006, 02:08 AM
Bah, you guys are just Anti-Ronon. I like Teal'c more then Ronon as well, I just don't think he would win in a one on one, hand to hand fight with Ronon.

And Ronon didn't suprise Caldwell when he threw him like that. Caldwell had just told Ronon that he possesed the strength of 3 men, so he knew that Ronon was going to attack him. What he was suprized about was, that Ronon tossed his butt so easily. Darn SGA and Ronon haters. Grrrr. lol.

Neorapsta
September 15th, 2006, 02:55 AM
Just remember that just because someone is stronger doesn't mean you can't pick up and throw them the same as any other guy. Just if they did the same to you you'd fly 3 times as far.

kirmit
September 15th, 2006, 03:53 AM
Bah, you guys are just Anti-Ronon. I like Teal'c more then Ronon as well, I just don't think he would win in a one on one, hand to hand fight with Ronon.

And Ronon didn't suprise Caldwell when he threw him like that. Caldwell had just told Ronon that he possesed the strength of 3 men, so he knew that Ronon was going to attack him. What he was suprized about was, that Ronon tossed his butt so easily. Darn SGA and Ronon haters. Grrrr. lol.

wrong, you're just speculating that it's because people are anti ronon, I actually like ronon he's one of my favourite characters on SGA maybe even the favourite. He still wouldn't win against teal'c though, teal'c is too well trained, too experience and to be honest too smart compared to Ronon.

Ronon did surprise caldwell, if caldwell knew he was about to be attacked he would've tensed up ready for a fight but he didn't he just stood there asif the conversation was about to continue. It was lucky on ronon's part, a readied Goa'uld would've given him much more of a fight.

Freekzilla
September 15th, 2006, 05:15 AM
wrong, you're just speculating that it's because people are anti ronon, I actually like ronon he's one of my favourite characters on SGA maybe even the favourite. He still wouldn't win against teal'c though, teal'c is too well trained, too experience and to be honest too smart compared to Ronon.

Ronon did surprise caldwell, if caldwell knew he was about to be attacked he would've tensed up ready for a fight but he didn't he just stood there asif the conversation was about to continue. It was lucky on ronon's part, a readied Goa'uld would've given him much more of a fight.

Then why was Simmons kicking Teal'c AND O'Neill's butts in Prometheus? I still don't believe you. You haven't given any evidence that Teal'c is great at hand to hand combat. Besides, how could hosted Caldwell be suprized? A Goa'uld knows what it's host knows, and Caldwell knew that Ronon was hot headed and would do something like that. I'm not trying to take anything away from Teal'c, he just isn't the hand to hand combat type. He's more of the overall warrior type; pilot, staff weapon, some hand to hand, strategies, leadership etc. That's what makes Teal'c such a great warrior, he can do it all, maybe not the best at everything, but definitely among the top ranks. Have you even seen Ronon fighting hand to hand? He's pretty darn good. Of everyone in the SG universe, I think only the Sodan are on the same level as Teal'c and Ronon. Watch Sateda again, Ronon is pretty crafty, and takes down around a dozen Wraith alone. Remember, someone who is hunted learns pretty quickly how to fight. And like I said, I think Ronon would win, but he would just barely pull it out.
I say we drop the two characters in a pit and let them fight it out. Then we'll know for sure. Just make sure to bring your sleeping bag, cause it would be a long LONG fight. lol. Besides, who ever won, wouldn't really win, because I think the damage the two would inflict on eachother would be more than either could survive. That is, IF they really really went at it and were trying to kill eachother. And I think no one would want to see that. Sparring on the other hand, I think that would have been a great scene. Teal'c would be a great influence on Ronon. And I think Ronon would be a kind of kindred spirit to Teal'c, and maybe even get Teal'c to smile and laugh. That would have been a really good story to tell; Teal'c taking Ronon under his wing like Bra'Tac did for Teal'c, instilling some trust, honor and wisdom in Ronon. Don't you agree with that? Who knows, maybe Ronon would start saying "Indeed" like Teal'c. LOL ! ! !

wise one
September 15th, 2006, 05:25 AM
tealc for sure

ronon would give him a good fight but the end of the day its muscle guy

1. he hench
2.he can deal with pain
3. his HENCH..

Kingomon
September 15th, 2006, 05:40 AM
Trotonin still adds strangeth and health just not as much as a symboite. In that episode where his son and Bra'tac where forced to work Dr.Fraiser said that Teal'c had lifted more weights then anyone in the base and he kept lifting weights after that.

Freekzilla
September 15th, 2006, 05:43 AM
tealc for sure

ronon would give him a good fight but the end of the day its muscle guy

1. he hench
2.he can deal with pain
3. his HENCH..

Huh? What are you talking about? That part makes absolutely NO sense. Hench?

He can deal with pain? So can Ronon, Becket performed surgery on him to remove that tracking device, WITHOUT ANY ANESTHESIA.

Myth
September 15th, 2006, 09:45 AM
Teal'c would likely win. I say likely, because it would obvious depend on the situation. If it was a situation where a weapon was placed between them, Ronon's speed and agility would likely give him a decided advantage in getting the weapon first. But in a physical only, one on one battle, Teal'c would take him. The tretonin has an abnormally strong healing effect. It doesn't just give him a normal immunity, it heals at a rate beyond a typical human rate. Since a person's physical strength is still governed by the ability of their muscles, the tretonin would allow Teal'c to maintain or even exceed the strength he achieved before, as his determination to do so would have increased and the enhanced healing of the tretonin would still allow him to develop more quickly than the average person.

But the bigger factor here is the amount of training Teal'c has received. As others have pointed out, he could have nearly a century of addtional training. And the single-biggest advantage Teal'c would have is his mentality. Ronon would be likely to try to attack Teal'c directly out of pride and arrogance. Teal'c wouldn't have such issues, which would give him yet another advantage.

Also, with the concept of someone being stronger than 3 men, the problem is that it's not specified which 3 men. Depending on who the 3 guys are, I could be stronger than them too. So Ronon could easily be as strong as, if not stronger than 3 men.

doylefan22
September 15th, 2006, 10:36 AM
He still wouldn't win against teal'c though, teal'c is too well trained, too experience and to be honest too smart compared to Ronon.

But Ronon was a runner for seven years. He spent every day fighting to stay alive - if that's not evidence of survival experience and smarts I don't know what is.

I think it'd be a close one too call and nowhere near as black and white as some people are making out.

Atlantean Engineer
September 15th, 2006, 12:00 PM
But Ronon was a runner for seven years. He spent every day fighting to stay alive - if that's not evidence of survival experience and smarts I don't know what is.

I think it'd be a close one too call and nowhere near as black and white as some people are making out.

I don't think you can compare Ronan's running for seven years with combat training. Running doesn't help with one-on-one combat that much. It means that he is resourceful and street-smart.

I'd give Teal'c the edge in strength and endurance, but Ronan is definitely more agile. But if you watch Threshold, Teal'c isn't all that slow either, just not as agile because of his larger frame.

Think about it this way, who would you pick in a hand to hand fight between Bra'tac and Ronan. I think Bra'tac would lose, but he would give Ronan a heck of a fight due to training and combat knowledge/experience. Bra'tac takes down stronger faster opponents all the time. Teal'c should also have the similar advantage, but he doesn't seem to show it much. In many episodes he just uses his brute strength and power.

With all things considered, I think Teal'c should win if he even uses a smidgen of the training Bra'tac has given him, and quickly too since he knows that with Ronan's quickness, Ronan can wear him down. But, if TPTB decide to use the big dumb, brute force Teal'c, which they like to show off in most episodes, Ronan would have the advantage.

Chaos47
September 17th, 2006, 04:59 PM
Thanx for the input guys









:ronan: ha, see that they like me more
:tealc: no you fool they like me
Ill show you :ronananime16: :tealcanime23: your going down
:mckay: Its obvios that everyone likes me
:sheppard: shut up rodney
:hallowed:

ironballs
February 6th, 2007, 05:42 AM
This is a question that as soon as I thought of, immidiately caused me to think "how the hell didn't I think of that before?"

T'ealc or Ronon ??

both of them plays a similar role in their SG-team - the strong fighter.

I thought about it for a long time, Ronon is a pure bred fighter, he won almost every melee combat he had (except against some hyped up people), while t'ealc, as strong as he is, won many fights by a hair's breadth, and he's not as war like inclined like Ronon.
I think that if they sparred, Ronon would probably win, or they fight it down to a standstill.

what do you think ?

The Great Lord Baal
February 6th, 2007, 05:49 AM
Tealc easily in my opinion he was first prime to a system lord as well as kiliing a few goauld in hand to hand fights(cronus+imhotep)

SaberBlade
February 6th, 2007, 05:51 AM
Well Teal'c didn't kill Cronus in hand to hand, if anything he was getting his ass kicked by him. Same for Imotep, who knew Capoeira and was defeating Teal'c, he just left himself wide open for Teal'c to kill him. Yet Ronon was using the Goa'uld Caldwell like a ragdoll.

So I could see Ronan being the better of the two. Ronan has spend years learning different types of martial arts, techniques and and after his experience in Sateda, is generally an overall master in death.

Kingomon
February 6th, 2007, 05:58 AM
Teal'c was born a fighter
Teal'c was Trained by Bratac
Teal'c has extra strength
Teal'c is older then Ronnon
Teal'c is more experinced in Combat

Teal'c is the Champ of Stargate's Ring :tealc39:

Auralis
February 6th, 2007, 06:03 AM
Teal'C, because he is a character.

The Great Lord Baal
February 6th, 2007, 06:10 AM
on the caldwell thing the devalued the goauld as time when on in sg1 and there strength I have no doubt if that was the first time a goauld was in the stargate franchise ronan would have got the crap kicked out of him

ironballs
February 6th, 2007, 06:26 AM
Come on!
I would say that the common Wraith is roughly the same strength (super human that is) as a Go'uauld.
Teal'c has only a very rare few melee fight with Guauld's (how the hell do you spell that!?), and as I said before, if he won - it's was a very narrowly won.

Ronon (shouldn't it be Ronin!?) Has spent years being hunted by the Wraith, and has numerouse encoutners with them - in which all he was victorious.

I absolutouly agree that Teal'c has more physical strength, but I think that Ronon has a slightly better chance to win a fight (I'm not saying he'll dispose of Teal'c easily, it will probably gonna cost him a few teeth :) )

also, Teal'c is used to fight other humans, while Ronon is used to fighting creatures with far supirior physical strength.

The Great Lord Baal
February 6th, 2007, 06:29 AM
^ Hopefully we will get to see when chris judge guests for an episode in season 4 of atlantis

ascendedancient42
February 6th, 2007, 10:28 AM
Now for another question; who would score first blood?

SaberBlade
February 6th, 2007, 10:44 AM
Now for another question; who would score first blood?

Definitely Ronan. Is there a place that guy doesn't keep a knife?

marty2006
February 6th, 2007, 05:25 PM
TEAL'C nuff said

Freekzilla
February 6th, 2007, 06:43 PM
This has been done before, with no clear winner.

Ronon is more nimble and quicker
Teal'c is more durable and slightly stronger.

If it's a slug fest, I think Teal'c would win. But Ronon doesn't fight that way, he more or less jabs and moves. Teal'c can take one heck of a beating, and Ronon isn't to shabby either, just not as resilient as Teal'c. If Ronon stuck to his quick and nimble fighting style, I think he could eventually wear Teal'c down. Then again, if Teal'c gets in a log splitting slug on Ronon, He'd be hurt significantly.

It all boils down to this: Neither one is a slouch. If they were to fight, it would be one HE** of a fight. I think even the Wraith and Goa'uld would sit back with some popcorn for that one. And it wouldn't be over quickly. Their fighting styles are different. Granted, Teal'c was a First Prime. But that doesn't make him invulnerable or unbeatable.

I personally think that people overplay Teal'c's age and experience. The jaffa, and therefore the First Prime, are warriors yes. I don't think hand to hand combat is their specialty. They are more likely to be in a position of superiority to their opponents, or to shoot their opponents with the staff. In hand to hand combat, any First Prime would be far better than most humans, but Ronon is no ordinary human.

In the end, I think it would be to close to call beforehand. It could go either way. If it was just a boxing match, I'd pick Teal'c hands down. If it was anything goes, (no weapons), mmmmm, it's a toss up.

ironballs
February 7th, 2007, 05:17 AM
Teyla ?
what does she got to do with it?
- she has no super strength, the part Wraith DNA in her only menifest itself with the enhanced mind abilities - not with physical strength.
I believe the fact that she is somewhat stronger then the average person, is due to her worrior training - she's built & trained in combat, and as a result developed the strength to match her skills. still, it's no way super human - or even rivals that of Ronon.
Granted she is a superb fighter, she got the moves and the agility, but still, her role is more of that of a scout, she can't be compared to Ronon or Teal'c in terms of fighting abilites.

Kingomon
February 7th, 2007, 05:27 AM
Teyla ?
what does she got to do with it?
- she has no super strength, the part Wraith DNA in her only menifest itself with the enhanced mind abilities - not with physical strength.
I believe the fact that she is somewhat stronger then the average person, is due to her worrior training - she's built & trained in combat, and as a result developed the strength to match her skills. still, it's no way super human - or even rivals that of Ronon.
Granted she is a superb fighter, she got the moves and the agility, but still, her role is more of that of a scout, she can't be compared to Ronon or Teal'c in terms of fighting abilites.

I Agree, Tayla would be against Michael and his Jaffa training.
Not Ronnon and Teal'c.

~Benjamin~
February 7th, 2007, 09:42 AM
Ronon would win as he is quicker, stronger (he can stand toe to toe with a wraith commander) plus from what we have seen Ronon has more skill than Teal'C, Ronon does not have to rely either on a symbiote or on tretonin which makes Ronon tougher than teal'C

Athosian Death facilitator
February 8th, 2007, 06:55 AM
I THINK THAT RONAN BEING A RUNNER AND A SKILLED HITMAN SO TO SPEAK WOULD HAVE A GOOD CHANCE BUT I'D HAVE TO SAY
wiTH ALL TEAL'CS TRAiNING AS A MJUSCLY MUSCLY WORRIOR TEALC WOULD WIN.:tealc: :tealc: :tealc: :tealc: :tealc:

Promethius30
February 8th, 2007, 07:28 AM
I THINK THAT RONAN BEING A RUNNER AND A SKILLED HITMAN SO TO SPEAK WOULD HAVE A GOOD CHANCE BUT I'D HAVE TO SAY
wiTH ALL TEAL'CS TRAING AS A MJUSCLY MUSCLY WORRIOR TEALC WOULD WIN.:tealc: :tealc: :tealc: :tealc: :tealc:

Tealc all the way :D

Commander Ivanova
February 9th, 2007, 02:47 AM
Are you sure there isn't already a thread for this somewhere?

Athosian Death facilitator
February 20th, 2007, 09:32 PM
it dont matter.

As Ronan said 2 is better than 1.

Athosian Death facilitator
February 20th, 2007, 09:35 PM
Would you the fans like to have a Gladiator special with Jason Momoa and Chrisopher JUdge cos i reckon that would be so cool.

Dreds against the Jaffa
:tealc: VS:ronan:
FIGHT!!!!

Professor Chaos
April 19th, 2007, 02:41 PM
I don't know.. Teal'c without Tretonin is quite weak as is Ford without the Wraith Enyzme but Ronan is on either so Ronan could beat both of them if they don't have their 'medicine'Tritonin doesn't make Teal'c stronger. He takes it because without a symbiote he has no immune system and he would die.

beale947
April 20th, 2007, 04:24 AM
Teal'c FTW!

Uber
April 20th, 2007, 10:59 AM
I'd have to go with Teal'c.

Sure he's older than Ronon...but he's more experienced...more seasoned. He's still incredibly fit and more even-tempered which will serve to his advantage against Ronon.

.jolinar.
April 20th, 2007, 02:00 PM
Who will win in a fight? Ronon Dex or Teal'c?

Ronan is awsome and everything but Teal'c is...Teal'c. Theres no comparason when it comes to hand to hand combat. Teal'c all the way.

Jaffa
April 21st, 2007, 07:49 PM
Teal'c
because he is Jaffa and was feared by most jaffa when first prime to Apophis, and i don't think Teal'c got that rep by doing one of his looks

Asgard4eva
October 16th, 2007, 12:08 AM
Teal'c, a great hero, a noble warrior. During the dark days he was Apophis's new first Prime. He's got strength, speed, wisdom and self-control, he saved SG-1 many times.

Negative Points :
His Jaffa Jokes are terrible and now he is way OLD !!
Look at Ben Johnson when he got old, he stopped winning gold medals, look at old Tyson he got destroyed in the boxing ring.

Ronon Dex is the new kid on the block, he's strong, he's fast, Ronon is a one man army

Negative Points :
None

P-90_177
October 16th, 2007, 12:24 AM
hmmmm. thing is that tealc is more disciplined where as ronon rages in like a mad bull, which as we've seen in sateda can not always help him win a battle. As for tealc being old i don't think it matters much, i mean look at bratac.

Sarge300491
October 16th, 2007, 12:39 AM
yeh teal'c would probably win, but i think ronons faster.

Kick-Kinsey
October 16th, 2007, 12:44 AM
Teal'c is still the champ

In hand-to-hand I think the replicator humans are almost unstoppable

lommit
October 16th, 2007, 01:15 AM
just to say it clearly teal'c would kick anyone ,any time any where ;) just to put it that way.:jack:

Bagpuss
October 16th, 2007, 01:41 AM
Teal'c, a great hero, a noble warrior. During the dark days he was Apophis's new first Prime. He's got strength, speed, wisdom and self-control, he saved SG-1 many times.
Indeed ! :tealc:


Negative Points :
His Jaffa Jokes are terrible and now he is way OLD !!
Why would he need to crack a quip about Setesh Guards in the middle of a fight ?
Plus what is time to a fully trained Jaffa Ex-First Prime with Tretonin freely available ?:cool:
He gets a whumping ,he just takes a bit longer to heal than in his Junior-carrying days.



Look at Ben Johnson when he got old, he stopped winning gold medals, look at old Tyson he got destroyed in the boxing ring.
Real people ,not fictional characters ,though .;) CJ might get a bit knackered in rehearsals/training ,if he were to overdo it all ,but Teal'c remains in peak condition .



Ronon Dex is the new kid on the block, he's strong, he's fast, Ronon is a one man army

Negative Points :
None
We'll see .I love Ronon and Teal'c...preferably fighting on the same side !

I say T for the win ,but Ronon would acquit himself very well.:cool:

Jumper_One
October 16th, 2007, 05:20 AM
Teal'c would probably win (if Bratac's age and fighting skills are any indication). but Ronon would be quite the adversary and he'd sure put up a pretty good fight!

Contraban
October 16th, 2007, 05:26 AM
I think Ronan would put up a good fight, but Teal'c would win for sure. His fighting skills are much better than that of Ronan.

ruby_caspar
October 16th, 2007, 05:34 AM
hmmmm. thing is that tealc is more disciplined where as ronon rages in like a mad bull, which as we've seen in sateda can not always help him win a battle. As for tealc being old i don't think it matters much, i mean look at bratac.

I agree completely - Teal'c is not only strong and knowledgable, he also has the inner-calm and the discipline to win almost any fight. I'm positive he'll beat Ronon.

Midway
Which is probably why Sam brings Teal'c to Atlantis in the first place.

Still, though, I CAN'T WAIT to see Teal'c and Ronon fight it out! :D :tealc::ronan:

ShadowMaat
October 16th, 2007, 05:53 AM
The really sad thing (IMO) is that this thread has been done before. Several times.

Ronon Dex vs. Teal'c (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=15720)

Teal'c vs. Ronon (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=24106)

Teyla or Ronon vs. Teal'c (http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=27022)

There are probably more, but I'm not gonna do a search for the various misspellings of "Ronon" and "Teal'c".

Anthony
October 16th, 2007, 06:03 AM
Teal'c will always be the King.

Phantom Limb
October 16th, 2007, 06:12 AM
Teal'c would kick his arse, skill and experience will always win over blind rage, even if it is incredibly scary satedan shouty blind rage, seriously imagine Ronon stood in front of you and he did that satedan pseudo all blacks shouty thing he did in sateda and reunion, the only way your gonna win is if you pull an indiana jones and just shoot him, unless your Teal'c of course who will teach him a thing or two about rootin tootin fightin im sure in Midway.

and Jaffa jokes are awesome!!

P-90_177
October 16th, 2007, 06:29 AM
I agree completely - Teal'c is not only strong and knowledgable, he also has the inner-calm and the discipline to win almost any fight. I'm positive he'll beat Ronon.

Midway
Which is probably why Sam brings Teal'c to Atlantis in the first place.

Still, though, I CAN'T WAIT to see Teal'c and Ronon fight it out! :D :tealc::ronan:

actually a part of me really wants to see tealc completely humiliate ronon like bratac did with him (threshold) and o'neill (bloodlines).

October 16th, 2007, 11:45 AM
Teal'c but it would be close.

:ronananime16::tealcanime23:

WingedPegasus
October 16th, 2007, 02:31 PM
I really want Ronon to win, but I doubt he will. :ronon:

Daniel Jackson
October 16th, 2007, 07:17 PM
Who will win in a fight? Ronon Dex or Teal'c?
Why would they fight? They're both good guys.

Ehecatl
October 16th, 2007, 07:54 PM
Let us wait and see...Ronon and teal'c do fight in the upcoming episode "Midway" in season four.

Daniel Jackson
October 17th, 2007, 07:25 AM
...why? :S

1138
October 17th, 2007, 04:13 PM
Oh and I'm not sure about Ronan V's Teal'c, I'd just like to point out that it was abit strange how Ronan could throw the Goa'uld on Atlantis about like a rag doll... :rolleyes:

Teal'c knocked over several Tok'ra in Crossroads.

garhkal
October 17th, 2007, 07:08 PM
...why? :S

IMO it might be related to Sam's treatment of him in reunion and she brings Teal'c along as back up..

Ouroboros
October 18th, 2007, 01:24 AM
After Talion I don't think there's any doubt left in this question anymore. Teal'c's combination of Jaffa phisiology and sheer willpower make him virtually super human it would seem.

Ronon got beat up by Teyla in a stickfight this week. Sure he was distracted, but I'd say Teal'c was pretty distracted by the staff blast to the kidneys when he killed that Arkad ******* to.

kirmit
October 18th, 2007, 09:52 AM
actually a part of me really wants to see tealc completely humiliate ronon like bratac did with him (threshold) and o'neill (bloodlines).

I would love that too, have him put Ronan in his place and see that blind rage isn't going to win him every battle. This won't be the case though, this is TPTB's chance to show their 2 toughest guys pelting each other.

I do like Ronan, he's my favourite SGA character but Teal'c should rightfully win. I know alot of people are saying he's old now and won't be much good but he's a Jaffa, age is nothing to them. Also that whole time he was stuck on the Oddy you think he was just sitting around? He likely trained alot with Mitchell until Mitchell got too old and then did alot of training by himself. That's another 40ish years experience added to what he already had. I hate to say this but if Ronan wins then it's a cop out by TPTB to try and make the Atlantis characters seem tougher, Teal'c should win.

BTW does anyone know who is stronger a goa'uld or a wraith? I'm just thinking Ronan can take wraith out easy and Teal'c can do the same to goa'ulds, well he never used to but he manhandled Ba'al easily.

Ltcolshepjumper
October 18th, 2007, 01:04 PM
Ronon WON'T win. I think Midway is an episode where Teal'c gets time to "domesticate", for lack of a better word, Ronon.
Also, tealc should not be able to take out goauld in hand-to-hand combat, and Ronon shouldn't be able to go one-on-one with the Wraith.

EDIT: Neither win. Carter breaks it up. However, They bot have advantages. Ronon has speed, while Tealc has skill. I think both have somewhat of an equal skill level. However, Tealc has more self-control (until he get VERY angry.

Insipid
October 21st, 2007, 12:00 AM
Ronan would beat Teal'c brutally down in a matter of seconds... and then Teal'c would just stand right back up; unfazed. After which, O'Neill would arrive with cake and everyone would live happily ever after.

With cake.

P-90_177
October 21st, 2007, 12:38 AM
I would love that too, have him put Ronan in his place and see that blind rage isn't going to win him every battle. This won't be the case though, this is TPTB's chance to show their 2 toughest guys pelting each other.

I do like Ronan, he's my favourite SGA character but Teal'c should rightfully win. I know alot of people are saying he's old now and won't be much good but he's a Jaffa, age is nothing to them. Also that whole time he was stuck on the Oddy you think he was just sitting around? He likely trained alot with Mitchell until Mitchell got too old and then did alot of training by himself. That's another 40ish years experience added to what he already had. I hate to say this but if Ronan wins then it's a cop out by TPTB to try and make the Atlantis characters seem tougher, Teal'c should win.

BTW does anyone know who is stronger a goa'uld or a wraith? I'm just thinking Ronan can take wraith out easy and Teal'c can do the same to goa'ulds, well he never used to but he manhandled Ba'al easily.

i'm pretty sure the wraith are stronger. I am going by how much that one wraith whooped ronon in sateda though and he looks pretty bulked up. But additionally i've never seen a goauld throw anyone like the wraith do (like in the defiant one when that wraith back hands sheppard)

also i just got another thought. I know that this is primarily a thread about hand to hand combat to add to my previous posts, even though teal'c is more discplined a fighter and in hand to hand combat could probably beat ronon (with some difficulty) i am also aware that as a soldier ronon is much better trained. so in a gunfight ronon would win hands down where as in hand to hand teal'c would win.

iceman2333
November 11th, 2007, 10:28 AM
just curious, who do you all think would win in a fight? teal'c or ronon?

marty2006
November 11th, 2007, 12:13 PM
Search :)

jenks
November 11th, 2007, 12:57 PM
Wait for 'Midway' and you might get your answer.

nova
November 11th, 2007, 03:42 PM
so, whos gonna win?

http://www.gateworld.net/atlantis/s4/415.shtml


in my opinion, tealc will defend himself vs ronan, and i think the episode will leave it undetermind.

but, i think tealc could take take him, but it would be an awesome fight, prob best in SG history!

DigiFluid
November 11th, 2007, 03:48 PM
Meh, Ronan's just a punk who needs a baggy coat and dreads to look intimidating. Teal'c can pull off intimidating in an SGC uniform just by looking at you funny. No question who'd win that fight.

wkw427
November 11th, 2007, 03:50 PM
Well if there will be a fight, Teal'c will win, hands down. Because no matter how buff Ronin is, he is only human. Jaffa are several times stronger then humans, even at 140 years old! :p

jenks
November 11th, 2007, 04:23 PM
Teal'c is an old man, Ronon should win, but knowing the writers they'll just make it a draw.

the fifth man
November 11th, 2007, 04:55 PM
While this thread has been done before, I'll play. IMO, Teal'c would win, hands down.

ebethman
November 11th, 2007, 05:18 PM
i think that ronan should definatly win (THUNK). But i think that it will be stopped halfway through by an authority figure
i've seen fotage of carter breaking up the fight
cannot wait to watch the fight

the fifth man
November 11th, 2007, 05:25 PM
I'd have to go with Teal'c, hands down. It should be an awesome fight to see though.

SaberBlade
November 11th, 2007, 05:28 PM
Well considering the Goa'uld also have more strength than a human, and Ronan ***** slapped Caldwell, plus he made Kavanagh faint (and probably pee himself) I do think that both Teal'c and Ronan would be fairly evenly matched in strength and intimidation.

That said, Teal'c has lived what, 5 times longer than Ronan and he spent the first 100 years of live in constant conflict with other Jaffa and Goa'uld so I do believe that Teal'c would win. The only real downside is that he is a lot older and that could make him slower, weaker and not able to keep up with Ronan who has like 50 knives on him at all time and likes to jump about like a rabbit.

Niteshadow
November 11th, 2007, 05:28 PM
Ronon he has been fighting since be was a runner and he does have youth on his side.

the fifth man
November 11th, 2007, 05:44 PM
Ronon he has been fighting since be was a runner and he does have youth on his side.

I still see Teal'c somehow taking him in the end. Most likely though, they'll both get in some good shots on one another. Then, it'll get broken up.

MB.Eddie
November 11th, 2007, 05:57 PM
Teal'c should imo. Has more control and training. Ronon just goes nuts.

ebethman
November 11th, 2007, 08:52 PM
Teal'c should imo. Has more control and training. Ronon just goes nuts.

but he goes nuts with skill{lots of jump and punch}. Plus we know he is tuff, being able to shake off stuner blasts pritty quick and just surviving that inconter with the uber huge wraith in sateda.

Lahela
December 5th, 2007, 12:32 AM
They're both highly trained warriors so I don't think it would be an easy fight for either of them. Personally, I think Teal'c would probably win in the end just through experience and maturity.

Ripple in Space
December 8th, 2007, 10:51 PM
They're both highly trained warriors so I don't think it would be an easy fight for either of them. Personally, I think Teal'c would probably win in the end just through experience and maturity.

And strength. And speed. And training. And skill. And weight.

I'd be surprised if Ronon didn't get in the first punch, and a lot more in the first 5 seconds, but a punch from Teal'c should nearly daze Ronon, and then a second should send him flying. Ronon doesn't even have superpowers, while Teal'c is probably the strongest sentient being on Earth, and one of the strongest in the Galaxy.

JSPuddlejumper
January 26th, 2008, 06:23 PM
Teal'C should win: Far more battle experience, likely at least bit better skilled in hand to hand combat.

Ronon may have a speed advantage.


Overall, Teal'C ought to win.

Arkad episode proved once again that Teal'C is the biggest bad arse in SG universe.

ebethman
January 26th, 2008, 10:01 PM
Well Teal'c spent the last 50 years of his life on bord a ship while ronon had 7 years straight of fighting wraith pritty much 24/7.

Jedi_Master_Bra'tac
February 4th, 2008, 08:13 AM
"Success in battle does not depend on one's strengths but your opponents weaknesses"

Ronan probably has many weaknesses, but has won because his strength has overcome it. However Teal'c is wise and as strong/stronger than Ronon, the start will look like it's pretty close, but Teal'c will soon pick up on his weaknesses pwn him.

Lahela
February 4th, 2008, 09:32 AM
I'm actually starting to think we won't see a resolution, based on the whole premise of the ep.

ebethman
February 4th, 2008, 04:27 PM
I'm actually starting to think we won't see a resolution, based on the whole premise of the ep.

That is my belief as well. If it turns out to be the case, there will be many a call for a rematch. We may as well see who gets the bigger beating.

Bagpuss
February 5th, 2008, 01:01 AM
I agree with Lahela and you,ebethman.:)

Sam Carter intervenes and halts the tussle between Teal'c and Ronon..then T and R have to team up later on.I'm betting the guys form a grudging respect and friendlier feeling between them by the end of the ep.

Canon can get in the way though.I still think if it comes to a down and dirty fight between these two,T would win.Eventually.:D

AscendedThor
February 10th, 2008, 12:21 PM
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Pharaoh Atem
February 10th, 2008, 12:25 PM
wait till midway

melfan
February 10th, 2008, 12:30 PM
wait till midway

I'm rooting for Ronon :D :ronan:

rockerlad
February 10th, 2008, 12:41 PM
That video of Teal'c was crap he got his arse kicked, there is far better vids of him kicking arse out there.

Id go for Ronon tho :ronan:

AscendedThor
February 10th, 2008, 12:41 PM
wait till midway

I'm pretty sure their fight in the begining of the episode will be a tie. since they don't want to piss off any fans.

But in 'reality' who would win in a real hand-to-hand combat between the two of them?
the video I posted clearly proves that Ronon is much stronger. Teal'c was beaten by a Goauld who used only one hand, while with Ronon vs. a Goauld it was the other way around...

Pharaoh Atem
February 10th, 2008, 12:44 PM
I'm pretty sure their fight in the begining of the episode will be a tie. since they don't want to piss off any fans.

But in 'reality' who would win in a real hand-to-hand combat between the two of them?
the video I posted clearly proves that Ronon is much stronger. Teal'c was beaten by a Goauld who used only one hand, while with Ronon vs. a Goauld it was the other way around...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZGb96SrlBs

there both knock each other out in a wonderful matrix like move

TheLastSunset
February 10th, 2008, 12:51 PM
I'm pretty sure their fight in the begining of the episode will be a tie. since they don't want to piss off any fans.

But in 'reality' who would win in a real hand-to-hand combat between the two of them?
the video I posted clearly proves that Ronon is much stronger. Teal'c was beaten by a Goauld who used only one hand, while with Ronon vs. a Goauld it was the other way around...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZGb96SrlBs

Ah, but it's debatable whether you can compare since the writers and producers may not have been exactly sure of how strong the Goauld were. You'd have to find a recent fighting of Teal'c and a Gouald, then it would be more comparable.

Prior_of_the_Ori
February 10th, 2008, 01:02 PM
Not really sure... they are both somewhat opposite from one another.

Ronon is a berserker and quite strong for a Human, he gets kind of lost in a bloodlust in battle and quite brutal. We saw him on Sateda taking on quite a few Wraith in battle and to have survived as long as he did would mean that he does possess quite a bit of skill in combat.

While Teal'c is a seasoned warrior of many battles, since he uses tretonin I don't think he is as powerful as he used to be but he is pretty tough considering how he went in guns blazing against the Illac Renin in season 10 of SG-1.

Both have shown some martial skills in combat related matters... Ronon did with the sticks and Teal'c with his staff weapon. So ultimately I suppose its pretty close... don't quote me on this but I think I might have heard JM on his blog say that he would think Ronon would win. Again I might have made that up so don't quote me on that.

Amagoul
February 10th, 2008, 01:06 PM
I think that they are both pretty evenly matched but if i had to pick a side i would have to go with....*flips a coin* :tealc: teal'c

2ndgenerationalteran
February 10th, 2008, 01:10 PM
id go with tealc, if he still had a symbiot id say tealc without a doubt.

Wraith_Boy
February 10th, 2008, 01:47 PM
If anybody is to win the 'duel' it will by Big T! However wouldn't surprise me to have the 2 be evenly matched & it end in a tie so that the writers don't get besieged by hate mail from livid T or Ronon fans if they lost!

Hoping to see T using experience though & managing to whip the younger, stronger warrior (just like Bra'tac did with Teal'c way back when he was first prime).

fordpickup&6pack
February 10th, 2008, 01:58 PM
In a Stargate universe anything is possible... even that Dex could beat the crap out of Teal'c. But, in the real world Judge could break Momoa in half, without even noticing that. :)

AGateFan
February 10th, 2008, 02:21 PM
Easy, Teal'c has been a gamer much much longer. He would totally pwn Ronan in COD, RB6, Halo, any racing game. No contest. Of course they are both far too mature to get into a real fight with their own ally.

maylet
February 10th, 2008, 03:28 PM
Teal'c

1138
February 10th, 2008, 04:27 PM
the video I posted clearly proves that Ronon is much stronger. Teal'c was beaten by a Goauld who used only one hand, while with Ronon vs. a Goauld it was the other way around...


Watch Crossroads and see Teal'c knock over multiple Tok'ra with ease. They're the same physically as Goa'uld and it took several of them to subdue Teal'c.

Besides, Kawalski Goa'uld is not the same as Caldwell Goa'uld. Maybe Kawalski was in better shape than Caldwell to begin with. It's impossible to know, so you can't judge who would win by looking at the Goa'uld they've been fighting. The only way to be sure is to have them actually fight.

But resume-wise, Teal'c is much more impressive.

fugiman
February 10th, 2008, 05:13 PM
:tealc:TEAL'C,:tealc: TEAL'C,:tealc: TEAL'C:tealc:

Come on he is a Jaffa (so superior physically) with years of more experince so he has to win of course he did do that rapid age thing in Unending which does help Ronon but come on he's Teal'c:D


Of course he does have a really really bad hair cut recently so that may give it to Ronon;)

tombombadil
February 10th, 2008, 05:15 PM
what about that clip of teal'c fighting that go'auld that was pretending to be a rebel Jafa!? why didn't you show that?

Nitegate
February 10th, 2008, 09:01 PM
i think Teal'c would win cause he's older and more experienced, he was first prime to a goa'uld and Ronon isn't that old anyways, plus he's only a human who was in his planet or countries military. just my opinion.

my vote is on Teal'c

AGateFan
February 11th, 2008, 01:42 AM
Watch Crossroads and see Teal'c knock over multiple Tok'ra with ease. They're the same physically as Goa'uld and it took several of them to subdue Teal'c.

Besides, Kawalski Goa'uld is not the same as Caldwell Goa'uld. Maybe Kawalski was in better shape than Caldwell to begin with. It's impossible to know, so you can't judge who would win by looking at the Goa'uld they've been fighting. The only way to be sure is to have them actually fight.

But resume-wise, Teal'c is much more impressive.
The Goa'uld in Kawaski was also a very very young, just out of larval stage (if that) considering it came out a jaffa belly pouch. The one in Caldwell would have been older and had much better control of the host.

Malakriss
February 11th, 2008, 01:51 AM
Given the combination of Teal'c being on tretonin and that he retains his aging from Unending, I have to give the nod to Ronon.

jenks
February 11th, 2008, 02:50 AM
This video has 2 clips of Ronon and Teal'c each fighting a Goaul'd. It can serve as a reference to determine which of them is strongest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZGb96SrlBs

Please watch and share your opinions.

You can't really compare the two, the Goa'ulded Caldwell just stood there.

josh
February 14th, 2008, 10:00 PM
ultimate fight:::

teal'c in jaffa revenge mode vs. ronan pissed off (about something, maybe sateda)

it would last days and there would be no winnner, they would both collapse from exhaustion

Daryl Froggy
February 14th, 2008, 10:08 PM
ultimate fight:::

teal'c in jaffa revenge mode vs. ronan pissed off (about something, maybe sateda)

it would last days and there would be no winnner, they would both collapse from exhaustion


And then the universe would collapse from absolute overload of coolness, slow motion, and maybe that thing Rodney is fiddling with in the background.

NoobTau'ri
February 14th, 2008, 11:17 PM
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The last time I checked, Ronon doesen't have a Goa'uld symbiote or tretonin coarsing through his veins giving him super-human strengh and regenerative abilities, so the answer is pretty obvious.

Daryl Froggy
February 14th, 2008, 11:27 PM
The last time I checked, Ronon doesen't have a Goa'uld symbiote or tretonin coarsing through his veins giving him super-human strengh and regenerative abilities, so the answer is pretty obvious.

And don't forget that Ronan was fighting/running from the Wraith, who in combat are far more regenerative and far stronger than a Jaffa or a Goa'uld, for seven years. I think that more than makes him qualified to match Teal'c in combat.


I'd say they would both have a good sparing match, though I'm not sure if Ronan can match Teal'c's shear strength.

avidffan
February 15th, 2008, 12:31 AM
And then the universe would collapse from absolute overload of coolness, slow motion, and maybe that thing Rodney is fiddling with in the background.
yeah a tie i agree with that
cos the both rock

NoobTau'ri
February 15th, 2008, 05:13 AM
And don't forget that Ronan was fighting/running from the Wraith, who in combat are far more regenerative and far stronger than a Jaffa or a Goa'uld, for seven years. I think that more than makes him qualified to match Teal'c in combat.


I'd say they would both have a good sparing match, though I'm not sure if Ronan can match Teal'c's shear strength.

Ronon mostly just gets his ass kicked by the Wraith when fighting them without guns. Just look at Sateda. And even if the Wraith have superior strengh than a Jaffa, a Jaffa still has much more than a Human, and Ronon is nothing more than a Human. And Teal'c has 100+ years of fighting experience, so that settles the argument right there.