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Liam Kincaid
February 2nd, 2008, 10:33 AM
There were several shots where they showed pieces flying off the Replicator when Sheppard shot him. If he was made out of nanites, can't these pieces build him back? I understand that replicating was not the main thing they were programmed for, but they are capable of it, aren't they. If it is a matter of survival, won't they do it?

Jeffala
February 2nd, 2008, 11:18 AM
According to the story, they're not just not programmed for it, they're incapable of it.

RepliVeggie
February 2nd, 2008, 11:32 AM
Asurans can't replicate either. It just made no sense that the bullets harmed him. No sense that Ronons energy gun harmed him too.

Avenger
February 2nd, 2008, 11:43 AM
No self-replication = no self healing. No self healing = nanites are susceptible to physical damage. It was explained in the episode.

jenks
February 2nd, 2008, 12:04 PM
Asurans can't replicate either.

Yes they can.



It just made no sense that the bullets harmed him. No sense that Ronons energy gun harmed him too.

Why wouldn't they harm him?

Mitchell82
February 2nd, 2008, 12:50 PM
No self-replication = no self healing. No self healing = nanites are susceptible to physical damage. It was explained in the episode.

Yup.

jenks
February 2nd, 2008, 02:02 PM
He could self heal, but only to a certain extent, as he had no access to essential materials like neutronium.

mizzoueng
February 2nd, 2008, 03:39 PM
I think what they are getting at is that in old episodes bullets just passed through Asurans and human form replicators. They were never really "hurt" as they could control the molecular bonds and expand and condense the nanites.

This replicator seemed to be actually solid rather than made of nanites. We have never seen an Asuran get shot, chunks of nanites fly off, and then the "wound" heal itself. Rather, we just see the bullets pass through the Replicators and impact the wall on the other side.

This just didn't make any sense based on replicator cannon to date. Just saying "they cannot replicate" does not explain why they were able to be injured by conventional ammuntion. At first I thought by saying "they cannot replicate" meant there was no danger of the male or female versions getting ahold of a bunch of material and making a replicator army on Earth, but somehow they made it so that they were just T1000's, nanites that for some reason were effected at the molecular level by a 3mm shotgun pellet.

Ronans gun made some sense. His is energy/plasma based and energy weapons have been shown in the past to actually impact the Asurans and slow them down but not hurt them.

I think the writers just couldn't think of a way to stop an Asuran, who couldn't replicate or be hurt by ARG's, and be limited to conventional weapons as they are running around the streets of Earth. The replicator should have been able to turn the "silver spots" back to flesh colored.

All in all I thought it was a complex and somewhat good episode, I just think the route they took with the replicator was horrible and should have been thought out better rather than save money on CG by making him "hurtable"

jyh
February 2nd, 2008, 04:33 PM
I don't know much about the issue of the replicator and his (possible) replicating capabilities.

Here's what I thought might be a plothole or future spoiler:
When we first see "Ava," she is in a lab, with newspaper articles about Sheppard's dad, and also has photos of Shep and Ronan. Those photos look like they were taken while the guys were on earth: they were both wearing suits/dress clothes. I guess those photos were supposedly taken when they were on Earth saving Rodney & his sister-- but what a security breach THAT was, to allow it to happen!! Oh well, I guess I answered my own question.

~~~nevermind!!~~~

Barbaro
February 2nd, 2008, 05:07 PM
Here's what I thought might be a plothole or future spoiler:
When we first see "Ava," she is in a lab, with newspaper articles about Sheppard's dad, and also has photos of Shep and Ronan. Those photos look like they were taken while the guys were on earth: they were both wearing suits/dress clothes. I guess those photos were supposedly taken when they were on Earth saving Rodney & his sister-- but what a security breach THAT was, to allow it to happen!! Oh well, I guess I answered my own question.

~~~nevermind!!~~~

I thought I remembered seeing someone taking pictures of Shep and Ronon when they pulled up to Jeannie's house during the episode Miller's Crossing.

Merlin's_Legacy
February 2nd, 2008, 05:51 PM
This may be another stupid observation on my part, but Sheppard was shooting the "replicator" with a shotgun. Shotguns fire "shot", lots of tiny metal pellets. I assumed that the things flying off were simply the pieces of shot bouncing off the neutronium skin. I actually considered it a thoughtful detail that they actually considered what would happen to the shot. Most shows ignore this.

As to the replicator's healing ability, keep in mind that this so-called replicator was created by humans from scratch. Yes, we used knowledge gained for studying other true replicators, but this one was built by us, and it's code was stripped down. It was unable to replicate and could not self-repair unless it had access to neutronium. The fact that the asked the doctor how to take him down seems to me that they weren't really expecting to be able to just shoot it. The doctor, however, apparently was only considering the anti-replicator "bond-disruptor" technology and never considered to write in programming that would allow the android to "melt" enough to allow the bullets/shot pass through him.

gopher65
February 2nd, 2008, 06:08 PM
Yeah... I don't know if that is a plothole. Except that he should have been able to heal the silver patches, and he should have gotten slightly smaller as more and more nanites were knocked out of commission.

If you are looking for a plothole, then look no further than the method they used to destroy the replicator. Objects falling on Earth have a terminal velocity that is based on their mass and volume and surface shape (this is why a person with a parachute falls slower than a person without a parachute). For a human like thing this speed is about 200 kph at normal atmospheric density. At very high altitudes this speed is closer to 1000kph.

The reason something like a shuttle experiences such incredible heat is NOT because it is falling to earth. The reason is because it has to move very quickly to attain free-fall orbit, and it uses the atmosphere for controlled aerobraking when returning to Earth instead of wasting fuel to slow back down.

If you just took a shuttle up and dropped it from low LEO and it wasn't moving relative to Earth when you released it (like what they showed in the show), it would barely get warm. Same with this guy. They moved him from a position of relative stop on the ground to a position of relative stop way up in the air... then he just falls. He would accelerate into the atmosphere, but he would never move fast enough to burn up. He'd just fall and hit the ground.

In fact, one of the reasons why you don't blow up satellites in orbit is because the small pieces of debris *cannot* burn up. They lose velocity too quickly when they start encountering thin, wispy air, and they end up tumbling straight down at a few hundred kph. Then you just hope they don't hit anyone. Dropping a penny from orbit is no different than dropping it from a skyscraper as far as the poor ground is concerned.

Quinn Mallory
February 2nd, 2008, 11:44 PM
Yeah... I don't know if that is a plothole. Except that he should have been able to heal the silver patches, and he should have gotten slightly smaller as more and more nanites were knocked out of commission.

If you are looking for a plothole, then look no further than the method they used to destroy the replicator. Objects falling on Earth have a terminal velocity that is based on their mass and volume and surface shape (this is why a person with a parachute falls slower than a person without a parachute). For a human like thing this speed is about 200 kph at normal atmospheric density. At very high altitudes this speed is closer to 1000kph.

The reason something like a shuttle experiences such incredible heat is NOT because it is falling to earth. The reason is because it has to move very quickly to attain free-fall orbit, and it uses the atmosphere for controlled aerobraking when returning to Earth instead of wasting fuel to slow back down.

If you just took a shuttle up and dropped it from low LEO and it wasn't moving relative to Earth when you released it (like what they showed in the show), it would barely get warm. Same with this guy. They moved him from a position of relative stop on the ground to a position of relative stop way up in the air... then he just falls. He would accelerate into the atmosphere, but he would never move fast enough to burn up. He'd just fall and hit the ground.

In fact, one of the reasons why you don't blow up satellites in orbit is because the small pieces of debris *cannot* burn up. They lose velocity too quickly when they start encountering thin, wispy air, and they end up tumbling straight down at a few hundred kph. Then you just hope they don't hit anyone. Dropping a penny from orbit is no different than dropping it from a skyscraper as far as the poor ground is concerned.


I have got to disagree with you. While what you said about things falling at terminal velocity is obviously true. Debris/meteor do burns up upon entry in the atmosphere most of the time. Now part of the reason for that is due to the high velocity of the object (which is needed in real life for the object to be at that height in the first place) then the debris is destroyed by the friction. Having something beamed directly into space is a bit of a different situation (and one that's not really physical). I guess you have to believe that b/c Apollo is doing this, the replicator would be dropped with the same velocity that Apollo needs to maintain orbit? Even without that initial velocity, I'm inclined to say that objects will burn up from being dropped that high just for the shear amount of distance that it would need to travel. Just a quick wikipedia search showed that an object has quite a way to go if it is dropped at the edge of the exosphere.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratosphere

ciannwn
February 3rd, 2008, 05:52 AM
Here's another article about space debris which suggests that the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

Space Debris Update (http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/headline_universe/space_debris_update.html)

Clearly, space debris is a danger to operating spacecraft in orbit around Earth. Is space junk a danger to life here on Earth? Though pieces of space junk have been known to fall to Earth from Oregon, U.S., to Uganda, Africa, falling space junk isn't likely to endanger humans or other life on Earth. Most space debris is small enough that it burns up in the atmosphere of Earth. Otherwise, it usually falls into the ocean which covers 2/3 of the planet. The North American Air Defense Command (NORAD) and United States Space Command (USSPACECOM) do monitor man-made objects in space using radar. They also track when space debris falls into the Earth's atmosphere or onto Earth.

Here is a news story about a piece of space rocket falling into an Ugandan woman's garden.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/1922486.stm

Experts say it is extremely rare for man-made space debris to fall to earth - most of it gets burnt up as it re-enters the atmosphere.

But occasionally, perhaps once or twice a year, a big chunk of it gets through. What is virtually unheard of is for it to land in someone's garden.

gopher65
February 3rd, 2008, 06:12 AM
Yeah. The multi-tonne objects burn up *when dropping from orbit*.

Have you heard about that defunct US spy-sat that is going to crash into Earth in the next few months? One of the "solutions" that people keep emailing them is to "just blow it up". So they've been saying "if we just blow it up then the pieces are going to be too small to burn up, and then *all* of it will impact the ground instead of just a few little pieces". Things need to be at least a few tonnes before they will burn up reliably. The reason why people rarely find satellite parts is because almost all of them are purposefully brought down over the ocean. And even on uncontrolled reentrys (or for meteorites) the surface of Earth is 75% water, so there is a 3 in 4 chance of striking water, not land. Actually it is more than 3 in 4 because of the trajectory that almost any piece of manmade space debris will have, except those in polar orbits like spy-sats. That's why this one is of more concern than normal. It is in a polar orbit over land for as much of its orbit as it can be (which makes sense, cause it is a spysat).

However, having thought about it, it is clear that the transporters that they use must have some kind of kinetic compensators. Otherwise when beamed from the surface of a planet to a ship in orbit the velocity change would kill you. I hate that idea though. Adding that much kinetic energy and gravitational potential energy to an object over that short a time can't be good for you.

Even so, I'm not convinced that something with the approximate mass and volume and shape of a human could burn up. We'd slow down mighty fast before we hit the denser regions of the atmosphere. I've heard that there is a company that is considering doing "space drops" for adventure seekers, kinda like a paradrop, but from LEO. *shudders*. They couldn't do that if humans heated up in any substantial way during reentry. I wonder what the density of a replicator is?

EDIT: And those news articles you quoted are unfortunately wrong in many details, as are most articles about anything to do with space:(. I wish they hired reporters who had at least a basic idea about the field they were writing about. I'm not asking for doctorates here. Just some basic knowledge. Is it too much to ask to have a reporter writing on hospital related issues who actually knows something about the subject? Or Astronomy, astronomy? Or Physics, physics? Or Politics, politics? Where do they find such incompetent, knowledgeless people to write our news?

ciannwn
February 3rd, 2008, 06:50 AM
EDIT: And those news articles you quoted are unfortunately wrong in many details, as are most articles about anything to do with space:(. I wish they hired reporters who had at least a basic idea about the field they were writing about. I'm not asking for doctorates here. Just some basic knowledge.

The first article I quoted came from the 'Windows to the Universe' website. The 'About Us' page says at the bottom -

About Windows To The Universe (http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/about_windows.html)

University Corporation for Atmospheric Research (UCAR).

The site staff includes a number of scientists with the title of Dr. One is a specialist in the physics of comet interiors and evolution. Another 'has been active in space plasma physics and aeronomy concentrating on processes that couple the atmosphere and ionosphe with near-Earth space. (Pardon?) As one of the site's purposes is to be a teaching resource for schools I hope they know what they're talking about.

The quote I used mentioned Uganda. As the BBC news article was about an Ugandan woman's back garden I thought they might possibly be related.

RepliVeggie
February 3rd, 2008, 11:55 AM
I don't remember where I heard it but I was pretty sure it was mentioned that the Asurans couldn't replicate. If they could why don't they just make their ships and cities out of nanites that would be invulnerable?

I am going to have to do some digging. (Never mind I remember now. Them not making ships out of nanites just makes no sense now. They should know they would be unstoppable.)



Also about reentry. I thought it was basically how fast reentry is. The faster you are going the more friction. Just burning up on reentry.

PG15
February 3rd, 2008, 12:42 PM
They make their ships the normal way as that's what the Lantians once did, and they like copying their parents.

RepliVeggie
February 4th, 2008, 12:34 AM
They make their ships the normal way as that's what the Lantians once did, and they like copying their parents.


If that's the case. Let's hope Weir's knowledge doesn't lead her faction to create nanites based ships.

Liam Kincaid
February 4th, 2008, 04:57 AM
If that's the case. Let's hope Weir's knowledge doesn't lead her faction to create nanites based ships.
You mean like Fifth and Carter ( a nanite based "ship" ) ?

MechaThor
February 4th, 2008, 05:10 AM
Asurans can't replicate either. It just made no sense that the bullets harmed him. No sense that Ronons energy gun harmed him too.

No the Asurans can replicate, and yes weapons would hurt the Earth Replicator! Hell Ronons gun, still affects the Aurans, but not as much!

This Earth Rep however has programmed NOT TO REPLICATE, Hence why when he got hit by bullets his skin did not re-heal into human like flesh, instead it stayed as metal.

Did not not listern to the characters?

mizzoueng
February 4th, 2008, 07:11 AM
No the Asurans can replicate, and yes weapons would hurt the Earth Replicator! Hell Ronons gun, still affects the Aurans, but not as much!

This Earth Rep however has programmed NOT TO REPLICATE, Hence why when he got hit by bullets his skin did not re-heal into human like flesh, instead it stayed as metal.

Did not not listern to the characters?

Okay, watch any old episode with us shooting at a human form replicator (HFR). Our bullets PASS THROUGH. They do NOT impact, blast off a chunk, and then replicate to heal the wound.

Nanites are molecular sized machines that can control their distances between each other on that level. HFR's could control the density of their bodies to either be very sand-like (hence bullets pass through) or very very dense (RepliCarters sword arm). This has NOTHING to do with replicating, just management of nanite location.

The explanation of "he can't replicate" does NOT explain why we could damage him with shotguns. If they would have said "he cannot control the nanites, he functions have been limited to just walking and talking" then it would have been plausable, but it was obvious he could control the nanite functions as he was able to adjust the frequency of the nanites so he wasn't trackable.

If he was able to do this (as was Ava since she never showed up on the sensor), then he should have been able to adjust the molecular bonds between the nanites.

Is it a plothole? Possibly, I just think it was a F*&^ up. The producers and editors should know that there is this thing called Wikipedia and the Omnipedia, they could easily go on there and refresh their memory about the HRF's to see exactly how this "explanation" would work and see if it would be plausable.

I know someone will say "its just a show", but if the show does not follow its written history, then whats to stop them from saying "oh, lets say the wraith really don't need to feed on humans, lets show them cooking a space cow and having t-bones, we'll just say that the retrovirus spread through the gate network when an infected wraith got shot going through the wormhole".

Alipeeps
February 4th, 2008, 07:26 AM
The replicator should have been able to turn the "silver spots" back to flesh colored.


Another point to bear in mind here is that, unlike the Asurans, the replicator's clothes weren't made of nanites; his body was nanites but he wore standard clothes... therefore he couldn't "heal" the holes in his clothes where the shot hit him. And pretty much if you're running for your life and getting shot the cr*p out of, probably the last thing on your mind is making sure the bits of your body underneath the holes in your clothes are flesh-coloured as opposed to silver.


I thought I remembered seeing someone taking pictures of Shep and Ronon when they pulled up to Jeannie's house during the episode Miller's Crossing.

They were. That's the whole point - Wallace kidnapped Jeannie to force Rodney to come back to Earth to look for her, so Wallace's mean were watching Jeannie's house when Rodney and Sheppard and Ronon arrived. And Ava, working for a subsidiary of Wallace's company, obviously managed to access those photos taken by Wallace's people.

The point here, as made before, is that this replicator behaves differently from the Asurans or Fifth's human form replicators because he is different. He has been created in a lab from scratch by people who have no knowledge of either the Asurans or Fifth's human form replicators and how they function - they've programmed him and his abilities themselves from scratch. He's something brand new, pretty much the only thing he has in common with other human form replicators is that he's made from nanites.

wise one
February 4th, 2008, 08:19 AM
If that's the case. Let's hope Weir's knowledge doesn't lead her faction to create nanites based ships.

i think they would know much more than that like the fact of ascended beings making contact with her and the ori and replicators

they should really take that onboard and then they can take over the galaxy

MechaThor
February 4th, 2008, 09:35 AM
Okay, watch any old episode with us shooting at a human form replicator (HFR). Our bullets PASS THROUGH. They do NOT impact, blast off a chunk, and then replicate to heal the wound.

Nanites are molecular sized machines that can control their distances between each other on that level. HFR's could control the density of their bodies to either be very sand-like (hence bullets pass through) or very very dense (RepliCarters sword arm). This has NOTHING to do with replicating, just management of nanite location.

The explanation of "he can't replicate" does NOT explain why we could damage him with shotguns. If they would have said "he cannot control the nanites, he functions have been limited to just walking and talking" then it would have been plausable, but it was obvious he could control the nanite functions as he was able to adjust the frequency of the nanites so he wasn't trackable.

If he was able to do this (as was Ava since she never showed up on the sensor), then he should have been able to adjust the molecular bonds between the nanites.

Is it a plothole? Possibly, I just think it was a F*&^ up. The producers and editors should know that there is this thing called Wikipedia and the Omnipedia, they could easily go on there and refresh their memory about the HRF's to see exactly how this "explanation" would work and see if it would be plausable.

I know someone will say "its just a show", but if the show does not follow its written history, then whats to stop them from saying "oh, lets say the wraith really don't need to feed on humans, lets show them cooking a space cow and having t-bones, we'll just say that the retrovirus spread through the gate network when an infected wraith got shot going through the wormhole".

In "Progeny" our bullets and Ronans gun affected the Asurans (only sligthly, but it still hurt them) It was the MW human forms which took 0 damaged from our guns.

As for your comparing the Nanatis to sand, Heres the think. If you shoot sand a bullet will go through (depending of the thickness, otherwise sandbags would be a rubbish defence)
When you shoot sand (nanties) some sand gets sprayed out of the impact point, while some of the sand (nanties) would get damged as the bullet passes through the replicator, Which is why the replicator was left with metal scars, where the bullets ripped through him, disrupting the nanaties and damging some, then since he cannot replicate and heal the wound, it just stayed as a metal scar.

Also changing the frequency of your nanatis is one thing, but controlling them to replicate and heal is another. Also as they said, he CANNOt replicate, they said nothing about the fact he can't change his nanties to avoid sensors, His makers most likly left that function in to help hide him.
If you disable your computers Firewall, then your computer gets attacked by a virus, your computer won't activate its firewall again by itself!

Mitchell82
February 5th, 2008, 01:27 PM
In "Progeny" our bullets and Ronans gun affected the Asurans (only sligthly, but it still hurt them) It was the MW human forms which took 0 damaged from our guns.

As for your comparing the Nanatis to sand, Heres the think. If you shoot sand a bullet will go through (depending of the thickness, otherwise sandbags would be a rubbish defence)
When you shoot sand (nanties) some sand gets sprayed out of the impact point, while some of the sand (nanties) would get damged as the bullet passes through the replicator, Which is why the replicator was left with metal scars, where the bullets ripped through him, disrupting the nanaties and damging some, then since he cannot replicate and heal the wound, it just stayed as a metal scar.

Also changing the frequency of your nanatis is one thing, but controlling them to replicate and heal is another. Also as they said, he CANNOt replicate, they said nothing about the fact he can't change his nanties to avoid sensors, His makers most likly left that function in to help hide him.
If you disable your computers Firewall, then your computer gets attacked by a virus, your computer won't activate its firewall again by itself!

Nicely put.

YutheGreat
February 5th, 2008, 06:48 PM
If he picked them up maybe he could melt it down and then repair himself. Replicator cells were damaged by the bullets and Thor said it takes many block working together to form new blocks for the old version replicators. I believe the nanites work in a simillar pattern. Also the human form replicators require Nuetronium to build themselves thats why he went after the shipment. He can't use simple materials like steel and others.

mizzoueng
February 7th, 2008, 01:37 PM
In "Progeny" our bullets and Ronans gun affected the Asurans (only sligthly, but it still hurt them) It was the MW human forms which took 0 damaged from our guns.

As for your comparing the Nanatis to sand, Heres the think. If you shoot sand a bullet will go through (depending of the thickness, otherwise sandbags would be a rubbish defence)
When you shoot sand (nanties) some sand gets sprayed out of the impact point, while some of the sand (nanties) would get damged as the bullet passes through the replicator, Which is why the replicator was left with metal scars, where the bullets ripped through him, disrupting the nanaties and damging some, then since he cannot replicate and heal the wound, it just stayed as a metal scar.

Also changing the frequency of your nanatis is one thing, but controlling them to replicate and heal is another. Also as they said, he CANNOt replicate, they said nothing about the fact he can't change his nanties to avoid sensors, His makers most likly left that function in to help hide him.
If you disable your computers Firewall, then your computer gets attacked by a virus, your computer won't activate its firewall again by itself!

True, but sandbags cannot control the distance between the grains. HFR's can. The whole principal behind the HFR got changed when it came to the Asurans. There should be no way that a bullet should be able to damage a molecule sized machine. If this was true then we could damage molecules in the air by shooting them. At the molecular level, an object the size of a bullet just grazes the nanites, it doesn't actually "hit" them.

Example, take a large perfectly sealed room, now pressurize it and place it in space (0 g effect). Fill that room with micro sized iron bb's. Now magnetically charge the bb's and hold them in a cube in the middle, while maintaining a perfect 1/2" between them. Now launch a basketball towards them. The basketball will impact the surface of the iron and cause the bb's to move away in a wave pattern. The positive and negative forces of the magnetic particles will cause the impacted ones to come together more densely but as soon as the bball is gone the same forces will make them go back to their original shape and distance.

This is how a nanite structure would operate. Anything impacting them would cause an immediate movement away from the object and they would adapt to the form of the foreign object.

The only time you might have the structure break and lose mass would be when the object exits the iron bb's cube. The surface tension would be disrupted as such that the magnetic forces could not maintain a sufficient bond to hold the lattice.

This example works well for Sheppards shotgun. It looked like he was using a buckshot with about 12 bearings per shot. This would be exactly like what I just explained. With sufficient surface area, the molecular bonds of the nanites could be disrupted enough, but ONLY on the opposite side of impact. Conventional bullets are cone shaped and are made to "push" material away from them and pass through objects.

Anyways, the writers and staff don't give a darn, so I'll just give up.

grayjo
February 8th, 2008, 01:15 AM
True, but sandbags cannot control the distance between the grains. HFR's can. The whole principal behind the HFR got changed when it came to the Asurans. There should be no way that a bullet should be able to damage a molecule sized machine. If this was true then we could damage molecules in the air by shooting them. At the molecular level, an object the size of a bullet just grazes the nanites, it doesn't actually "hit" them.

Example, take a large perfectly sealed room, now pressurize it and place it in space (0 g effect). Fill that room with micro sized iron bb's. Now magnetically charge the bb's and hold them in a cube in the middle, while maintaining a perfect 1/2" between them. Now launch a basketball towards them. The basketball will impact the surface of the iron and cause the bb's to move away in a wave pattern. The positive and negative forces of the magnetic particles will cause the impacted ones to come together more densely but as soon as the bball is gone the same forces will make them go back to their original shape and distance.

This is how a nanite structure would operate. Anything impacting them would cause an immediate movement away from the object and they would adapt to the form of the foreign object.

The only time you might have the structure break and lose mass would be when the object exits the iron bb's cube. The surface tension would be disrupted as such that the magnetic forces could not maintain a sufficient bond to hold the lattice.

This example works well for Sheppards shotgun. It looked like he was using a buckshot with about 12 bearings per shot. This would be exactly like what I just explained. With sufficient surface area, the molecular bonds of the nanites could be disrupted enough, but ONLY on the opposite side of impact. Conventional bullets are cone shaped and are made to "push" material away from them and pass through objects.

Anyways, the writers and staff don't give a darn, so I'll just give up.

Unless, and here's the magic bullet (so to speak), the replicator was designed to be weak to bullets. Building a replicator that was invunerable would be idiotic at the testing phase, so build in a safety feature that means it can be stopped if neccisary.

All in all, the writers are canon. If something is amiss, we can assume it is because there is more than we are being told.