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Willow'sCat
January 21st, 2008, 03:45 AM
I did have a look I swear, but I couldn't see a thread for series two and this discussion...

So is Grey (or Gray) mentioned and briefly shown (we assume ) in "Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang" the little boy? Or the Man? And is the little boy Jack's son... the one from the MPreg! :D Or is Jack the little boy?

*I love this show* :P

Anyway theories? Thoughts? Crazy talk? :P

Is Grey/Gray Torchwood's... BadWolf? Personally I hope not but it does seem like it will weave throughout the series.

Could Grey/Gray have something to do with The Doctor?

:S

P-90_177
January 21st, 2008, 04:30 AM
I did have a look I swear, but I couldn't see a thread for series two and this discussion...

So is Grey (or Gray) mentioned and briefly shown (we assume ) in "Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang" the little boy? Or the Man? And is the little boy Jack's son... the one from the MPreg! :D Or is Jack the little boy?

*I love this show* :P

Anyway theories? Thoughts? Crazy talk? :P

Is Grey/Gray Torchwood's... BadWolf? Personally I hope not but it does seem like it will weave throughout the series.

Could Grey/Gray have something to do with The Doctor?

:S

It's more likely to be a little bit more cliche than that. Like Jacks Father or something. Personally I'm hoping that it might explain about those two years of memories jack lost.

LaCroix
January 21st, 2008, 05:19 AM
My thought's are maybe Grey's his sister. The brief flashback showed two sets of little hands. One Jack's and the other one maybe Grey/Gray.

Sun'shyne
January 21st, 2008, 08:27 AM
Oooh yay, I was hoping a thread like this would pop up!

I totally agree, I think it's his child. Possibly he lost the child during his 2yrs of lost memories?

The_Carpenter
January 21st, 2008, 09:50 AM
Oooh yay, I was hoping a thread like this would pop up!

I totally agree, I think it's his child. Possibly he lost the child during his 2yrs of lost memories?

Won't be related to the 2 years lost memory's, RTD has said that only Moffat can write the conclusion to that arc, and it will probably be in Doctor Who as I don't think Moffat writes for Torchwood (I could be wrong though)

doylefan22
January 21st, 2008, 11:44 AM
At the moment I suspect that Jack was the boy in the little flashback and Grey is a mentor/father figure/his father.

Only really because I'm assuming Grey is a surname and it would be very odd to call your own child by their surname. It sounds more military which is why I think there is likely a time agency connection.

FunkeyMonkey
January 22nd, 2008, 11:55 AM
"Captain Jack encounters a man called Gray, who was his former boss at the now defunct Time Agency and is angry that Jack stole both his money and his wife."

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/a84212/s02e02-sleeper.html

Willow'sCat
January 22nd, 2008, 01:18 PM
"Captain Jack encounters a
man called Gray, who was his former boss at the now defunct Time Agency and is angry that Jack stole both his money and his wife."

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/a84212/s02e02-sleeper.html
Ooh really, I have been avoiding spoilers... but still... who is the boy (or the man) in that scene? :S I wonder how it relate to Grey/Gray then?

magickalmama
January 22nd, 2008, 06:51 PM
Ooh really, I have been avoiding spoilers... but still... who is the boy (or the man) in that scene? :S I wonder how it relate to Grey/Gray then?

Relax... that's not a real spoiler anyway. Digital Spy put up a list of spoilers plus one red herring for Sleepers which airs tomorrow. I'm positive that's the red herring. We'll be speculating about Grey for the whole 13 week run and I think we won't find out until the finale.

I'm hoping Grey is his child, or possibly his brother.

Willow'sCat
February 9th, 2008, 04:50 PM
Well I may have to change the title of the thread. :P

It seems Gray is *spoilers* Jack's brother, little brother. Interesting.

Willow'sCat
March 23rd, 2008, 09:24 PM
So possible spoilers for Fragments & Exit Wounds (TW finale)

So do you think Capt John really does know where Gray is? The spoilers for Exit Wounds I have read point to Capt John taking Capt Jack back in time, maybe back to see Gray.

I have to say I did think maybe Gray would play a larger part in series 2, really all we got was the first ep, some stuff in Adam that just confused me and we may or may not get more in the finale.

Unless the "Gray" story-arc carries over into series three should they get one. ;)

Completely out of left field rumour *spoilers finale* most likely rubbish but just in case...The Doctor turning up in Torchwood to rescue Capt Jack? I think RTD ruled this out but the rumours keep coming, well ok they are fans saying things but still it is interesting to note Doctor Who will start the day after Torchwood ends this year... Torchwood even taking a two week break between it's first screening of Fragments and the finale.

Coincidence?

Probably. :p

I would just love to see The Doctor even if only for two minutes in a Torchwood eppy.