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Red Phoniex
January 17th, 2008, 04:50 AM
I searched around here on Gateworld and I couldn't find a thread for Jack/Ianto! They are an awesome couple and so cute together. Best thing is it's not just a fan girls dream ;) i've made this thread for people who like to thunk over pics of them, grab every possible spoiler, write fanfictions or make videos, everything to do with this couple. If there is a thread already, please point me in the right direction. If not, there now is :D

This is a Pro thread so if you don't like this couple, please leave here quietly.

How able i get us started :D

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m124/redphoniex/torchwood/normal_TW-screencap113_206.jpg


http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m124/redphoniex/torchwood/normal_TW-screencap108_114.jpg


http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m124/redphoniex/torchwood/normal_TW-screencap108_101.jpg

Major Clanger
January 18th, 2008, 02:10 PM
oh yes
I like it

now... serious question: can anyone point me in the direction of TW fic? (J/I would be good...)

Reefgirl
January 18th, 2008, 02:16 PM
oh yes
I like it

now... serious question: can anyone point me in the direction of TW fic? (J/I would be good...)
Take a look at the Torchwood part of FF.net, it's swimming with J/I Slash

Red Phoniex
January 18th, 2008, 02:51 PM
Take a look at the Torchwood part of FF.net, it's swimming with J/I Slash

i think every 1 in 30 fics on there isn't J/I :D

Willow'sCat
January 18th, 2008, 03:10 PM
i think every 1 in 30 fics on there isn't J/I :D
Yep they are the McShep of Torwood/Doctor Who fandom! :D Although I still need to see more scenes with them on the show together for me to be totally there in a slash sense.

As for fics you could also check out the Torchwood coms on LJ. :)

torchwood_fic (http://community.livejournal.com/torchwood_fic/profile)

torchwood_slash (http://community.livejournal.com/torchwoodslash/profile)


So is this a Discussion thread a Thunk or a Slash thread? Or all three! :S:D

Red Phoniex
January 18th, 2008, 04:21 PM
So is this a Discussion thread a Thunk or a Slash thread? Or all three! :S:D

It's everything pro to do with this pairing :D it just seemed to me that it was spread between the two main threads so i thought it would be good to have somewhere to go completely into them without being off topic so to speak.

Willow'sCat
January 18th, 2008, 05:31 PM
It's everything pro to do with this pairing :D it just seemed to me that it was spread between the two main threads so i thought it would be good to have somewhere to go completely into them without being off topic so to speak.
So basically it is a Slash thread?

I like to know, as I have been burned on GW before by folks who wanted "friendship" discussion but foolishly use the "/" in the title when they should have used the "&". :P

Major Clanger
January 19th, 2008, 01:04 AM
ok but this isn't a "slash" relationship in the true fandom sense of "slash" is it?

how many snogs have you seen in canon of Jack/Daniel? McKay/Shep? Kirk/Spock? (yes, that was for the oldies among us)

In that way it isn't slash because, as we know, Jack is a 51st century bloke and will snog anything with a pulse.

In that case, "freindship" discussion would be a little out of place - although as a dedicated and committed slasher, in all fairness I couldn't blame people for not want?*ng to see the actual relationship ;)

and apart from "cheap thrills" the reason I'd like to see J/I fic is because I like Ianto as a character (and it grieves me to say he's young enough - just - to be my son) and I think he is very cute too. What a combination.

Finally, though, a whumped pair, and a slash pair that is right up there on the screen! Mr.MC hates it, but at least he can't argue with me about the existance of it.

(thanks for the fic links... I'll give them a try)

Red Phoniex
January 19th, 2008, 02:06 AM
So basically it is a Slash thread?

I like to know, as I have been burned on GW before by folks who wanted "friendship" discussion but foolishly use the "/" in the title when they should have used the "&". :P

i used ' / ' for a reason ;)

EVERYONE! This is a slash thread! If you're into friendship that's fine but be aware it's mainly slash.

Willow'sCat
January 19th, 2008, 02:55 AM
It is interesting that in Queer as Folk fandom, some violently abhorred the use of the term slash to describe a canon pairing... but others didn't have a problem... personally I think on GW it just makes it easier for others to know where you are coming from so I will be using the term slash. ;)

Willow'sCat
January 19th, 2008, 02:58 AM
Hands up who wants to see "the Ianto/Jack date" on screen? No not that date... :D *sorry I am Australian* :o

*puts hand up* :):D

zuz
January 19th, 2008, 03:51 AM
ok but this isn't a "slash" relationship in the true fandom sense of "slash" is it?

how many snogs have you seen in canon of Jack/Daniel? McKay/Shep? Kirk/Spock? (yes, that was for the oldies among us)

In that way it isn't slash because, as we know, Jack is a 51st century bloke and will snog anything with a pulse.
<lazy snip>


It is interesting that in Queer as Folk fandom, some violently abhorred the use of the term slash to describe a canon pairing... but others didn't have a problem... personally I think on GW it just makes it easier for others to know where you are coming from so I will be using the term slash. ;)

Hmmm, I understand where you are coming from. You see there are two major definitions of slash out there:

1. "Stories that depict a romantic and/or sexual relationship between characters of the same gender. This usually refers to male/male pairings, as that is the dominant type of story, but it also refers to female/female pairings. The term originated in Star Trek fandom as Kirk/Spock (or K/S) stories.

2. "Stories which depict an erotic attraction or relationship - up to and including intercourse - between characters of the same sex (in particular those for whom no such relationship has been established by series canon)."

Which one of these two you go with depends IMO to a large extent on which definition was the first you learned about when first introduced to the realm of slash. ;)

What I'm trying to say that both of you are right. Depending whether slash is more def 1. or def 2. for you. :)

BTW I prefer the second one. I guess that's because for me ship has to do more with canon expectations than slash does. Most of the slashers I know don't expect their pairing to become canon and some of them even don't want it to become canon (that's what ff is for). While most shippers want their favourite relationship to be played out on the screen.

And Willow'sCat, I don't have problem with slashing characters. When I see there's enough chemistry there I'm all for slash. I slash Jack and Daniel, but I ship Jack and Ianto. But if you want to slash Jack and Ianto, I'm more than O.K. with it. ;) Esp when I see that your J/I slash = my J/I ship. :p

As for using the "/" between the names, I believe that it is used for slash and ship pairings alike. (Vala/Daniel, Jack/Daniel).

And to stay on topic:


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/promos/TW-JackIanto1x13.jpg

Willow'sCat
January 19th, 2008, 04:44 AM
Hmmm, I understand where you are coming from. You see there are two major definitions of slash out there:

1. "Stories that depict a romantic and/or sexual relationship between characters of the same gender.

2. "Stories which depict an erotic attraction or relationship - up to and including intercourse - between characters of the same sex (in particular those for whom no such relationship has been established by series canon)."Not sure I follow your definitions here, I always thought the main problem was that slash is used in fanfics for gay male characters who would never be "gay" on the show but are paired together in fics for romantic reasons. So as I said in Queer as Folk fandom I came across some fans who slashed Brian/Michael and called it slash (as it never happened on the show) but would never call Brian/Justin slash as it was canon on the show.

Ship by the way is Heterosexual not Homosexual. Well it is in my book. :cool:;) It has nothing to do with expectations of whether the pairing will be canon... you bet if handled well I want to see McKay/Sheppard slash on SGA. :cool: As it wouldn't be I don't push it so much. :P

But seriously Ship is hetero. ;) Also it is Femslash if it is lesbian.

Yep I am so bored!

zuz
January 19th, 2008, 05:07 AM
These are not my definitions, I googled them. ;)

And ship is short for relationship. Well, at least in my book. :lol: Yeah, well, I know it's used for hetero-relationships, I just couldn't resist teasing you a little.

Willow'sCat
January 19th, 2008, 07:11 AM
These are not my definitions, I googled them.I figured you googled them and there in lies the problem, never trust google. :P

Major Clanger
January 19th, 2008, 07:26 AM
I didn't mean to unleash a big discussion...
and I don't disagree with those definitions although they appear to be so similar as to be almost the same.

Slash - as far as I know (or care, which I don't really :D) is non-canon m/m stuff

And the only reason I'd avoid using "slash" to describe J/I is that it is Canon. Praise be - finally!

We're having a discussion on h2g2 about if it is pervy for straight women to find the m/m stuff in Torchwood rather nice to watch. I guess that depends on your definition of pervy.

As for me: I know a fair few gay guys in RL and get a bit fed up with not seeing any on TV. Now, when the writers stop using it to try to shock us, I'll be a very happy bunny.

And enjoying it in a pervy way :D

Willow'sCat
January 19th, 2008, 07:33 AM
It is a discussion thread. :p

Anyway I get the feeling most fans are happy slashing them elsewhere in humours ways...;) like the Thunk threads, it is refreshing to be able to post caps of men kissing without someone coming along and cringing. ;)

OK I don't have any caps yet. :o Mine are all of Jack/The Doctor kissing. :D:P

Major Clanger
January 19th, 2008, 07:38 AM
I'm looking forward to pouring scorn on people shipping Ianto/Gwen (for example) and shouting very loudly about it not being Canon!
:P

*runs away*

Willow'sCat
January 19th, 2008, 08:14 AM
I'm looking forward to pouring scorn on people shipping Ianto/Gwen (for example) and shouting very loudly about it not being Canon!
:P

*runs away*lol!

OK I have a cap... *gold star for me* :D



http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/McKay/seriespreview21sj1-1.jpg

Reefgirl
January 19th, 2008, 09:16 AM
I didn't mean to unleash a big discussion...
and I don't disagree with those definitions although they appear to be so similar as to be almost the same.

Slash - as far as I know (or care, which I don't really :D) is non-canon m/m stuff

And the only reason I'd avoid using "slash" to describe J/I is that it is Canon. Praise be - finally!

We're having a discussion on h2g2 about if it is pervy for straight women to find the m/m stuff in Torchwood rather nice to watch. I guess that depends on your definition of pervy.

As for me: I know a fair few gay guys in RL and get a bit fed up with not seeing any on TV. Now, when the writers stop using it to try to shock us, I'll be a very happy bunny.

And enjoying it in a pervy way :D

Where? On the Drool thread?

Major Clanger
January 19th, 2008, 09:42 AM
nah, on Ask
it's called "Am I a perv?"

and, of course, the Drool thread loved it!

Reefgirl
January 19th, 2008, 10:23 AM
Personally I don't think we're pervs for wanting to see a little M/M

Major Clanger
January 19th, 2008, 10:28 AM
me neither, but then we're less conservative over here.

Red Phoniex
January 19th, 2008, 11:00 AM
i like starting debates :D

to me slash is any m/m pairing whether it's real on the show or not.

back on topic

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m124/redphoniex/torchwood/normal_TW-screencap105_011.jpg


http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m124/redphoniex/torchwood/JackIanto3.jpg

Sun'shyne
January 19th, 2008, 01:23 PM
i think every 1 in 30 fics on there isn't J/I :D

That's heaven to my ears... LMAO

On a side note, a close friend of mine that I recently got into TW had the best description for it ever... "It's like The X-Files crossed with Queer as Folk! It's BRILLIANT!!"

Willow'sCat
January 19th, 2008, 01:47 PM
i like starting debates :D

to me slash is any m/m pairing whether it's real on the show or not.I am with you on that, the debate and the definition. ;)


http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m124/redphoniex/torchwood/normal_TW-screencap105_011.jpg Oh and I love that, the gentle hand on his shoulder, trying not to spook him! :D

Red Phoniex
January 19th, 2008, 03:10 PM
... "It's like The X-Files crossed with Queer as Folk! It's BRILLIANT!!"

Dude! can i nick that quote?! that's briliant!!!! :D

Willow'sCat
January 19th, 2008, 04:14 PM
I would say more Buffy crossed with Queer as Folk and it bloody is with James Masters (Buffy) and Russell T (creator of QaF) :P

zuz
January 19th, 2008, 10:43 PM
spoilers for s2 http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/jackianto2_ship_herzen.gif
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/trailers/JI01.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/trailers/JI02.jpg

Reefgirl
January 20th, 2008, 02:42 AM
me neither, but then we're less conservative over here.
Yep, anything goes here

grasshopper64
January 20th, 2008, 07:56 AM
Haven't been around GW in a while but it's great to see a Jack/Ianto thread here. I've become a big TW fan in recent times and from what I hear there's plenty to look forward to for this pairing in S2.

And if you've seen Kiss, kiss, bang, bang you'll know about

Jack asking Ianto out for a date, squee:)

zuz
January 20th, 2008, 10:36 AM
Squeeworthy spoiler for s2. Follow the link: http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=7593349&postcount=12

:p:p:p

Willow'sCat
January 20th, 2008, 03:34 PM
spoilers for s2 http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/jackianto2_ship_herzen.gif

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/trailers/JI01.jpg




http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/trailers/JI02.jpg
*dies from the guh*

Do you think this is the "scene" John mentions? Wow that *spoiler* sounds hot! I hope they keep the whole two minutes in! :D I want to see flesh! And much sweating. *sigh* I love this show!

*down girl*

:P

Sun'shyne
January 20th, 2008, 06:31 PM
Dude! can i nick that quote?! that's briliant!!!! :D

You sure can!


I would say more Buffy crossed with Queer as Folk and it bloody is with James Masters (Buffy) and Russell T (creator of QaF) :P

Haha True that! Though neither my friend nor I ever watched Buffy... The X-Files was the first to come to mind!

zuz
January 20th, 2008, 08:06 PM
*dies from the guh*

Do you think this is the "scene" John mentions? Wow that *spoiler* sounds hot! I hope they keep the whole two minutes in! :D I want to see flesh! And much sweating. *sigh* I love this show!

*down girl*

:P

(((Willow's Cat)))
Actually I don't think this is the scene. Notice, that it looks like here Ianto seems to be the one who instigates the kiss: Jack is sitting (?) at the table maybe and Ianto has to lean down to kiss him (Ianto seems to be in charge of the kiss.) - YAY for dom!Ianto.


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/trailers/JI02.jpg

This is what JB said about the scene: "In one of the early episodes of the second series, Ianto has a meltdown in the Hub one night, for reasons far too complicated to go into here, but if you've seen it, you'll know. I have to admit it's one of my favourite episodes to date. Anyway, while Jack comforts Ianto, he shifts from innocent consolation to a full-on, passionate embrace and kiss."

I believe that this might be THE SCENE. There's def "a meltdown" (Ianto's out of it murmuring: "I'm a monster"), he's being hugged to be comforted and Jack is the one who does the comforting (You can see it's Jack's coat in the picture). So I guess that the "full-on, passionate embrace and the kiss" will follow up THIS hug. Which would mean that Jack would be wearing his coat while kissing Ianto, both of them possibly standing. Which is a great theory, because that would mean there's def more than one Jack/Ianto kiss awaiting us in series 2. :p But it's still only a theory. :p


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/trailers/ianto01.jpg

Willow'sCat
January 20th, 2008, 10:31 PM
Actually I don't think this is the scene. Notice, that it looks like here Ianto seems to be the one who instigates the kiss: Jack is sitting (?) at the table maybe and Ianto has to lean down to kiss him (Ianto seems to be in charge of the kiss.) - YAY for dom!Ianto.



This is what JB said about the scene: "In one of the early episodes of the second series, Ianto has a meltdown in the Hub one night, for reasons far too complicated to go into here, but if you've seen it, you'll know. I have to admit it's one of my favourite episodes to date. Anyway, while Jack comforts Ianto, he shifts from innocent consolation to a full-on, passionate embrace and kiss."

I believe that this might be THE SCENE. There's def "a meltdown" (Ianto's out of it murmuring: "I'm a monster"), he's being hugged to be comforted and Jack is the one who does the comforting (You can see it's Jack's coat in the picture). So I guess that the "full-on, passionate embrace and the kiss" will follow up THIS hug. Which would mean that Jack would be wearing his coat while kissing Ianto, both of them possibly standing. Which is a great theory, because that would mean there's def more than one Jack/Ianto kiss awaiting us in series 2. :p But it's still only a theory. :p

It a bloody good theory and one I want to see put into practice. ;) And although I am not so much a hurt/comfort/whump girl I can get behind the concept with little fuss if M/M snogging is involved! :D

Red Phoniex
January 21st, 2008, 01:56 AM
(((Willow's Cat)))
Actually I don't think this is the scene. Notice, that it looks like here Ianto seems to be the one who instigates the kiss: Jack is sitting (?) at the table maybe and Ianto has to lean down to kiss him (Ianto seems to be in charge of the kiss.) - YAY for dom!Ianto.


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/trailers/JI02.jpg

This is what JB said about the scene: "In one of the early episodes of the second series, Ianto has a meltdown in the Hub one night, for reasons far too complicated to go into here, but if you've seen it, you'll know. I have to admit it's one of my favourite episodes to date. Anyway, while Jack comforts Ianto, he shifts from innocent consolation to a full-on, passionate embrace and kiss."

I believe that this might be THE SCENE. There's def "a meltdown" (Ianto's out of it murmuring: "I'm a monster"), he's being hugged to be comforted and Jack is the one who does the comforting (You can see it's Jack's coat in the picture). So I guess that the "full-on, passionate embrace and the kiss" will follow up THIS hug. Which would mean that Jack would be wearing his coat while kissing Ianto, both of them possibly standing. Which is a great theory, because that would mean there's def more than one Jack/Ianto kiss awaiting us in series 2. :p But it's still only a theory. :p


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/trailers/ianto01.jpg

you've really thought about this :P which trailer was that clip from? i don't think i've seen it yet.

Willow'sCat
January 21st, 2008, 02:11 AM
You know Ianto really does do woobie so well, his total meltdown over Lisa was awesome... I hope Jack does comfort as equally well. :D I bet he is even better at comfort then he is at being the big dam hero.

*woof* :D

zuz
January 21st, 2008, 07:23 AM
you've really thought about this :P which trailer was that clip from? i don't think i've seen it yet.
(((Red Phoenix))) Follow the link and try Series 2, Trailer 1. It includes both scenes the hugging one and the kissing one, too.

http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=7588164&postcount=3

And I really shouldn't be here now. Bad, bad me. Playing on GW while in the office. :eek:

Red Phoniex
January 21st, 2008, 08:04 AM
(((Red Phoenix))) Follow the link and try Series 2, Trailer 1. It includes both scenes the hugging one and the kissing one, too.

http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=7588164&postcount=3

And I really shouldn't be here now. Bad, bad me. Playing on GW while in the office. :eek:

naughty you ;) thanks for the link

Sun'shyne
January 21st, 2008, 08:21 AM
(((Willow's Cat)))
Actually I don't think this is the scene. Notice, that it looks like here Ianto seems to be the one who instigates the kiss: Jack is sitting (?) at the table maybe and Ianto has to lean down to kiss him (Ianto seems to be in charge of the kiss.) - YAY for dom!Ianto.


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/trailers/JI02.jpg

This is what JB said about the scene: "In one of the early episodes of the second series, Ianto has a meltdown in the Hub one night, for reasons far too complicated to go into here, but if you've seen it, you'll know. I have to admit it's one of my favourite episodes to date. Anyway, while Jack comforts Ianto, he shifts from innocent consolation to a full-on, passionate embrace and kiss."

I believe that this might be THE SCENE. There's def "a meltdown" (Ianto's out of it murmuring: "I'm a monster"), he's being hugged to be comforted and Jack is the one who does the comforting (You can see it's Jack's coat in the picture). So I guess that the "full-on, passionate embrace and the kiss" will follow up THIS hug. Which would mean that Jack would be wearing his coat while kissing Ianto, both of them possibly standing. Which is a great theory, because that would mean there's def more than one Jack/Ianto kiss awaiting us in series 2. :p But it's still only a theory. :p


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/trailers/ianto01.jpg

Did I ever tell you I love the way you think?:cameron:

zuz
January 23rd, 2008, 07:39 AM
O.K. On LJ I've come across reviews of both Sleeper and To The Last Man published by a person who claims to have seen both episodes. There's no way to tell if he/she is in honest or just yanking our chain. But what he/she says, sits quite well with other spoilers from more "official sources" and it sounds like it could have been true. ;) While the person reveals next to none plot details, he/she's not so hesitant when it comes to the relationship stuff. Apparently there's another (possible Sleeper spoilers)Jack/Gwen scene in Sleeper (Although it's claimed not to be half as annoying as the KKBB one). Then there's a Jack/Ianto scene to appease all J/I lovers; the scene is described as "sweet". :) I guess that's the one Digital Spy mentioned in their spoiler teaser - "5. There is a strong implication that Jack and Ianto have already slept together." You can read the rest of the DS spoiler fest here (http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=7594310&postcount=15).

As for To the Last Man we get to see some heavy (possible To The Last Man spoilers)Jack/Ianto snoggage. It's supposed to be a scene where Ianto kisses Jack to cheer him up, some emo!Hurt/Comfort stuff going on

I guess it's this scene from the s2 trailer:
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/jackianto2_ship_herzen.gif
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/trailers/JI01.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/trailers/JI02.jpg SQUEE! is all I have to add. ;)

Red Phoniex
January 23rd, 2008, 07:47 AM
O.K. On LJ I've come across reviews of both Sleeper and To The Last Man published by a person who claims to have seen both episodes. There's no way to tell if he/she is in honest or just yanking our chain. But what he/she says, sits quite well with other spoilers from more "official sources" and it sounds like it could have been true. ;) While the person reveals next to none plot details, he/she's not so hesitant when it comes to the relationship stuff. Apparently there's another (possible Sleeper spoilers)Jack/Gwen scene in Sleeper (Although it's claimed not to be half as annoying as the KKBB one). Then there's a Jack/Ianto scene to appease all J/I lovers; the scene is described as "sweet". :) I guess that's the one Digital Spy mentioned in their spoiler teaser - "5. There is a strong implication that Jack and Ianto have already slept together." You can read the rest of the DS spoiler fest here (http://forum.gateworld.net/showpost.php?p=7594310&postcount=15).

As for To the Last Man we get to see some heavy (possible To The Last Man spoilers)Jack/Ianto snoggage. It's supposed to be a scene where Ianto kisses Jack to cheer him up, some emo!Hurt/Comfort stuff going on

I guess it's this scene from the s2 trailer:
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/jackianto2_ship_herzen.gif
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/trailers/JI01.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/trailers/JI02.jpg SQUEE! is all I have to add. ;)

yay! *squee* can't wait till tonight!

Willow'sCat
January 24th, 2008, 02:27 AM
Well there were a couple of nice Ianto/Jack moments in Sleeper....

Loved to death the part where Ianto tells Jack his little turn in the interrogation room was terrifying... and Jack goes "really?" *he was so cute* but then Ianto says... "Oh it passed" and then OMG! Jack growls! *squee* :D

The other bit I liked was where they all talk about Jack's habits in bed...which must relate to Ianto/Jack having already slept together ;) which I had assumed back in season one (after Lisa died) anyway.

Oh come on you don't let your boss kiss you like that in front of everyone if you aren't actually doing him! *so I am told* :P:D

Caps!



http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/McKay/vlcsnap-138976.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/McKay/vlcsnap-139199.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/McKay/vlcsnap-139888.png

rosey_angel
January 28th, 2008, 06:36 PM
OMG i don't think i've come to this thread yet!!

hi people *group hugs*

loving the thread, and i love the relationship between these two. it's so great, sometimes sweet and very powerful

piccy time

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l182/faithful_deception/TW_1_Cyberwoman/ep4_18.jpg

Willow'sCat
January 31st, 2008, 12:48 AM
*spoilers The Last Man* Well we got the moment where Ianto is sitting on Jack's desk and kissing him!

It was so weird as sometimes I do actually forget this show does that :P I was hitting my bf arm and saying they should kiss now, but part of me was still thinking they won't, as the guys never kiss on TV... :D

Also it was a tender and hot moment, Ianto admitting he would miss Jack if he left, Jack basically saying he didn't want to leave and that if he hadn't of been who he is and had done what he has done... well he wouldn't have met Ianto. :);)

I LOVE THIS SHOW! :D

Although you can so tell that moment was made to be edited out by those stations who won't screen that kind of thing... it really doesn't take away from the story. :cool: I wonder if it will turn up in the *kiddies* version.

zuz
January 31st, 2008, 10:10 PM
"To the Last Man" caps :p

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/2x03/2x3_3.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/2x03/2x3_4.jpg

SQUEE is all I have to add. :p

Sun'shyne
February 1st, 2008, 06:38 PM
*spoilers The Last Man* Well we got the moment where Ianto is sitting on Jack's desk and kissing him!

It was so weird as sometimes I do actually forget this show does that :P I was hitting my bf arm and saying they should kiss now, but part of me was still thinking they won't, as the guys never kiss on TV... :D

Also it was a tender and hot moment, Ianto admitting he would miss Jack if he left, Jack basically saying he didn't want to leave and that if he hadn't of been who he is and had done what he has done... well he wouldn't have met Ianto. :);)

I LOVE THIS SHOW! :D

Although you can so tell that moment was made to be edited out by those stations who won't screen that kind of thing... it really doesn't take away from the story. :cool: I wonder if it will turn up in the *kiddies* version.

I'm just loving the fact that Jack totally told Ianto he loves him.... wow what a step.. an amazing one at that!! My friend sent me that sequence and I've had it on loop in my WMP.....

zuz
February 2nd, 2008, 05:07 PM
Transcript of my favourite scene from To The Last Man. ;)

J: This time tomorrow he'll be back in 1918.
I: His own time...Would you go back to yours?...If you could?
J: Why, would you miss me?
I: Yep.
J: I left home a long time ago. I don't really know where I really belong. Maybe that doesn't matter any more.
I: I... know you get lonely...
J: Going home wouldn't fix that. Being here, I've seen things I've never dreamt I'd see, loved people I never would have known if I'd just stayed where I was...and I wouldn't change that for the world...
[Jack and Ianto intensely staring into each others eyes...KISSING ensues ;)]


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/2x03/2x3_2.jpg

There's so many to like in this scene: not just the kiss (which is a major SQUEE!!!), but also the dialogue and its implications... http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/jackianto2_ship_herzen.gif

not to forget the look between the two, right before Ianto kisses Jack. HAWT!

Willow'sCat
February 2nd, 2008, 05:23 PM
Transcript of my favourite scene from To The Last Man. ;)

J: This time tomorrow he'll be back in 1918.
I: His own time...Would you go back to yours?...If you could?
J: Why, would you miss me?
I: Yep.
J: I left home a long time ago. I don't really know where I really belong. Maybe that doesn't matter any more.
I: I... know you get lonely...
J: Going home wouldn't fix that. Being here, I've seen things I've never dreamt I'd see, loved people I never would have known if I'd just stayed where I was...and I wouldn't change that for the world...
[Jack and Ianto intensely staring into each others eyes...KISSING ensues ;)]


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/2x03/2x3_2.jpg

There's so many to like in this scene: not just the kiss (which is a major SQUEE!!!), but also the dialogue and its implications... http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/jackianto2_ship_herzen.gif

not to forget the look between the two, right before Ianto kisses Jack. HAWT!HAWT! Is the word! It is that understanding they have now, that they didn't have last series, couldn't have last series. One look and they know without having to say another word.;)

Man I hope tptb don't frak it up with shipping everyone and the toaster this series. Let them be with each other dam it! :)

Red Phoniex
February 3rd, 2008, 11:29 AM
I hope the tptb don't


start shipping Jack/Gwen to try and please the none slash people. I'm hoping 'meat' isn't going to be a bad as the spoilers are suggesting.

Reefgirl
February 3rd, 2008, 12:11 PM
There's always a couple of duff episodes in a series so maybe this is the Torchwood one

zuz
February 3rd, 2008, 04:08 PM
I've come across some squee-worthy spoilers, or rather rumors I guess. These are unconfirmed information so please bear it in mind. But if it's true IT'S ABSOFU***NGLUTELY FANTASTIC!



Jack/Ianto spoiler for episode 11, Adrift - the one where Gwen takes centre stage investigating missing children.

"""There was a screening in Cardiff Bay of Episode 11, Adrift, a couple of weeks ago. In that episode Jack and Ianto share a topless snog in bed. So it's a sex scene of sorts..."""

source: IanB on Outpost Gallifrey

Apparently, ppl familiar with the site claim that the stuff there is usually reliable. The original poster also mentioned that Cardiff as a city plays a big role in this episode and that media folk to whom Cardiff is relevant were given advanced screenings. This episode is also RTD's favourite from S2.

If it's true and it's a big IF, that would mean that Jack and Ianto will still be having some sort of relationship by episode 11. YAY! I was really worried that it won't last that far (most of the worries came from "it will cost Jack's love of Ianto[to beat the memory thief]" bit from the Ep 5 synopsis.

*fingers crossed*

Sun'shyne
February 3rd, 2008, 06:12 PM
Girls, I'm in UBER quick need of a pic of Ianto handing Jack a cup of coffee....my photoshop muse just hit me and I got a really funny idea....

zuz
February 3rd, 2008, 08:36 PM
The only one I got and I'm not sure that's what you had in mind, Sunny.


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/1x02/DayOne-00621.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/1x02/DayOne-00622.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/1x02/DayOne-00636.jpg

from Day One

P.S.: I'm leaving for work in a minute. I'll see you on Friday night. Sooner if I manage to squeeze a few minutes of Internet in the offfice (but that's dubious :()

Red Phoniex
February 4th, 2008, 02:34 AM
I've come across some squee-worthy spoilers, or rather rumors I guess. These are unconfirmed information so please bear it in mind. But if it's true IT'S ABSOFU***NGLUTELY FANTASTIC!




source: IanB on Outpost Gallifrey

Apparently, ppl familiar with the site claim that the stuff there is usually reliable. The original poster also mentioned that Cardiff as a city plays a big role in this episode and that media folk to whom Cardiff is relevant were given advanced screenings. This episode is also RTD's favourite from S2.

If it's true and it's a big IF, that would mean that Jack and Ianto will still be having some sort of relationship by episode 11. YAY! I was really worried that it won't last that far (most of the worries came from "it will cost Jack's love of Ianto[to beat the memory thief]" bit from the Ep 5 synopsis.

*fingers crossed*

*SQUEEE*

Reefgirl
February 4th, 2008, 04:19 AM
The only one I got and I'm not sure that's what you had in mind, Sunny.


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/1x02/DayOne-00621.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/1x02/DayOne-00622.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/1x02/DayOne-00636.jpg

from Day One

P.S.: I'm leaving for work in a minute. I'll see you on Friday night. Sooner if I manage to squeeze a few minutes of Internet in the offfice (but that's dubious :()
Have fun zuz and see you at the weekend

Sun'shyne
February 4th, 2008, 05:34 AM
The only one I got and I'm not sure that's what you had in mind, Sunny.


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/1x02/DayOne-00621.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/1x02/DayOne-00622.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/1x02/DayOne-00636.jpg
from Day One

P.S.: I'm leaving for work in a minute. I'll see you on Friday night. Sooner if I manage to squeeze a few minutes of Internet in the offfice (but that's dubious :()


Thanks hun!! Have a great week at work!!!

Sun'shyne
February 4th, 2008, 06:13 PM
I made something... it's up for grabs but it's in spoilers b/c of it's total non-pg meaning... The lyrics are from Bloodhound Gang's 'Bad Touch'...

You've been warned...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/SunshineStang/My%20Photoshop/MrCoffee.jpg

rosey_angel
February 5th, 2008, 03:21 AM
how much am i loving this show? very much, that's how much. TTLM:
i think it's so great that in the same hour we have the beautiful relationship between tosh and tommy that made me wanna cry it was so touching, and we have the wonderful scene with jack and ianto, talking about lonliness and jacks place in the world.

i felt so happy when, after jack asked "would you miss me?" ianto replies so thoroughly, without hesitation or joke, just "yep" it's so squee

lovely sig Sun'shyne

Red Phoniex
February 7th, 2008, 04:20 AM
Yay! Meat-


Wasn't as gwen/jack as first thought, still too much for my liking but we got some great looks between Ianto and Jack. The grin Ianto does when Tosh is saying they're all sad and single, totally 'don't look at me, i'm getting some :P '

Didn't like that Jack didn't ask Ianto if he was alright after nearly getting shot and beat up. If i was Ianto i would be p*ssed :cool:

Love the America bbc captains blog. Love this line from episode 3.

Other Staff issues: I’m in trouble with Ianto for duct-taping a CB aerial to the SUV. Apparently the tape made the wing mirror “disconcertingly sticky”. Still, nothing a bit of warm, soapy water can’t fix.

Such double meaning ;)

Sun'shyne
February 7th, 2008, 04:44 AM
how much am i loving this show? very much, that's how much. TTLM:
i think it's so great that in the same hour we have the beautiful relationship between tosh and tommy that made me wanna cry it was so touching, and we have the wonderful scene with jack and ianto, talking about lonliness and jacks place in the world.

i felt so happy when, after jack asked "would you miss me?" ianto replies so thoroughly, without hesitation or joke, just "yep" it's so squee

lovely sig Sun'shyne

Thanks! And I totally agree with you on TTLM!!


Yay! Meat-


Wasn't as gwen/jack as first thought, still too much for my liking but we got some great looks between Ianto and Jack. The grin Ianto does when Tosh is saying they're all sad and single, totally 'don't look at me, i'm getting some :P '

Didn't like that Jack didn't ask Ianto if he was alright after nearly getting shot and beat up. If i was Ianto i would be p*ssed :cool:

Love the America bbc captains blog. Love this line from episode 3.

Other Staff issues: I’m in trouble with Ianto for duct-taping a CB aerial to the SUV. Apparently the tape made the wing mirror “disconcertingly sticky”. Still, nothing a bit of warm, soapy water can’t fix.

Such double meaning ;)




More Meat Discussion:
Okay... after last nights epi, I was slighty angered with all the Jack/Gwen stuff. Though after thinking heavily on it while in the shower this morning (yes, I quite often think TW while in the shower.. LMAO), I have a few theories. One is a bit of a stretch, the other, not so much... (I realize this would be better off in the TW Discussion thread, but it has to do heavily with our favourite ship!)

1. I think the reason Jack is so pushy and clingy with Gwen is because she is able to show him a different side of himself. She, untill last night, was still able to seperate Torchwood and a life outside it, which is something none of the rest of them and Jack least of all is able to do. He saw her having the type of life that he can never have (and obviously wishes he could with Ianto). He'll never get to grow old and die with his love. Instead he'll have to watch as Ianto grows old and dies and he'll loose yet another great love in his life. So I feel that he is so passionate with Gwen, not because he loves/wants her in the way he loves/wants his canon relationship, but because he wants what she has in life.

(the more far out there one)
2. Okay, this one is a bit of a stretch, but something hit me when Jack was in the van with Rhys. He kept passionately saying that Gwen had to be the one. Upon first glance, to us and Rhys, we could only assume that he had wanted her there for...personal reasons? But, I was thinking this morning that the reasons quite possibly aren't as personal as we'd probably thought. All along, Jack mantra has been "The 21st century is when it all changes". We know that he's from the future. Could it be possible that he knows Gwen has something to do with the big changes that occur? Maybe her name is down in history as doing something great and he's been waiting to meet up with her... I donno, I realize that's a stretch...

And while it may be a stretch, it still keeps our favourite ship firmly at sail!!

I can't wait till the screencaps start popping up from last night....

phibi
February 8th, 2008, 08:46 AM
oh, this is my new home... I just LOVE LOVE LOVE Jack/Ianto! They are just so cute and I get all warm and fuzzy when I think about them :)

therefor "Meat" wasn't my favorite episode so far...

sure we got "the looks" and Ianto's oh so obvious smile at Tosh's remark, but there was way too much Jack/Gwen going on...

I just hope tPTB won't continue that... for the first time there is a canon slash/ship (whatever you wanna call it *lol*) pairing in a SciFi show and I want it to continue!



Wasn't as gwen/jack as first thought, still too much for my liking but we got some great looks between Ianto and Jack. The grin Ianto does when Tosh is saying they're all sad and single, totally 'don't look at me, i'm getting some '

Didn't like that Jack didn't ask Ianto if he was alright after nearly getting shot and beat up. If i was Ianto i would be p*ssed

Love the America bbc captains blog. Love this line from episode 3.

Other Staff issues: I’m in trouble with Ianto for duct-taping a CB aerial to the SUV. Apparently the tape made the wing mirror “disconcertingly sticky”. Still, nothing a bit of warm, soapy water can’t fix.

Such double meaning

oh, I sooo agree to all of this :)

Sun'shyne I like your theories *lol*

Sun'shyne
February 8th, 2008, 01:56 PM
oh, this is my new home... I just LOVE LOVE LOVE Jack/Ianto! They are just so cute and I get all warm and fuzzy when I think about them :)

therefor "Meat" wasn't my favorite episode so far...

sure we got "the looks" and Ianto's oh so obvious smile at Tosh's remark, but there was way too much Jack/Gwen going on...

I just hope tPTB won't continue that... for the first time there is a canon slash/ship (whatever you wanna call it *lol*) pairing in a SciFi show and I want it to continue!




oh, I sooo agree to all of this :)

Sun'shyne I like your theories *lol*

Thanks! I think I can honestly say I'm not worried about our ship... though, having said that... I don't touch spoilers for future epis... so I may be missing something huge and just sounding like an idiot LOL

phibi
February 8th, 2008, 02:43 PM
Thanks! I think I can honestly say I'm not worried about our ship... though, having said that... I don't touch spoilers for future epis... so I may be missing something huge and just sounding like an idiot LOL

well, I watched an interview with Gareth on youtube today and he didn't give any spoilers but he sounded really reassuring for our two boys :) and I've read another tiny bit so I'm almost confident now, that the PTB won't destroy our ship :)

and I won't go searching for more now, cause I stay clear of spoilers as well :)

Red Phoniex
February 8th, 2008, 03:10 PM
well, I watched an interview with Gareth on youtube today and he didn't give any spoilers but he sounded really reassuring for our two boys :) and I've read another tiny bit so I'm almost confident now, that the PTB won't destroy our ship :)

and I won't go searching for more now, cause I stay clear of spoilers as well :)

do you have the link at all? love watching gareth :D

phibi
February 8th, 2008, 03:22 PM
do you have the link at all? love watching gareth :D

here you go :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aduQeI-rjFw

he is just stuttering cutely along *lol* I guess he is not really comfortable with being interviewed :)

Willow'sCat
February 8th, 2008, 04:26 PM
I think the Gwen & Jack stuff from Jack POV is about family, friendship and is not sexual.

I was a little surprised to release that Ianto/Jack still haven't told the others about them. Although it is kinda sweet that they are keeping it to themselves. I hope next week is the week it all gets revealed. :) I am actually glad myself that Jack and Ianto don't need to be in each others faces with the "how are you" stuff, they are guys after all... lets not get girly about that, guys don't always need to say that stuff... that is what beds (desks) are for! lol :P:D

magickalmama
February 8th, 2008, 07:07 PM
I was a little surprised to release that Ianto/Jack still haven't told the others about them. Although it is kinda sweet that they are keeping it to themselves.

Gwen might know. Tosh and Owen seem clueless, though.

Gwen said in Meat that none of them have partners outside of here (meaning TW). With her comments about Jack's bedroom manners in Sleeper, maybe, just maybe Ianto & her chat. I doubt the second point myself, though. Anyhow, I think she knows. Tosh's talk about sad singles make it obvious that she doesn't know, and I don't thing Owen does either. Love the looks from Ianto during that conversation!

Lilith
February 8th, 2008, 07:08 PM
finally something i can comment on :p yay for delurking!

More Meat Discussion:
Okay... after last nights epi, I was slighty angered with all the Jack/Gwen stuff. Though after thinking heavily on it while in the shower this morning (yes, I quite often think TW while in the shower.. LMAO), I have a few theories. One is a bit of a stretch, the other, not so much... (I realize this would be better off in the TW Discussion thread, but it has to do heavily with our favourite ship!)

1. I think the reason Jack is so pushy and clingy with Gwen is because she is able to show him a different side of himself. She, untill last night, was still able to seperate Torchwood and a life outside it, which is something none of the rest of them and Jack least of all is able to do. He saw her having the type of life that he can never have (and obviously wishes he could with Ianto). He'll never get to grow old and die with his love. Instead he'll have to watch as Ianto grows old and dies and he'll loose yet another great love in his life. So I feel that he is so passionate with Gwen, not because he loves/wants her in the way he loves/wants his canon relationship, but because he wants what she has in life.

(the more far out there one)
2. Okay, this one is a bit of a stretch, but something hit me when Jack was in the van with Rhys. He kept passionately saying that Gwen had to be the one. Upon first glance, to us and Rhys, we could only assume that he had wanted her there for...personal reasons? But, I was thinking this morning that the reasons quite possibly aren't as personal as we'd probably thought. All along, Jack mantra has been "The 21st century is when it all changes". We know that he's from the future. Could it be possible that he knows Gwen has something to do with the big changes that occur? Maybe her name is down in history as doing something great and he's been waiting to meet up with her... I donno, I realize that's a stretch...

And while it may be a stretch, it still keeps our favourite ship firmly at sail!!

I can't wait till the screencaps start popping up from last night....

theory two, not so much of a stretch... i've already read numerous fanfiction where Jack, as a student of the past, knows the names of the people on the front line when "everything changes" one even suggested that he brought the current team together b/c that's what history books in the 51st century say.... haven't watched Meat yet... it's actually buffering right now :p


Yay! Meat-


Wasn't as gwen/jack as first thought, still too much for my liking but we got some great looks between Ianto and Jack. The grin Ianto does when Tosh is saying they're all sad and single, totally 'don't look at me, i'm getting some :P '

Didn't like that Jack didn't ask Ianto if he was alright after nearly getting shot and beat up. If i was Ianto i would be p*ssed :cool:

Love the America bbc captains blog. Love this line from episode 3.

Other Staff issues: I’m in trouble with Ianto for duct-taping a CB aerial to the SUV. Apparently the tape made the wing mirror “disconcertingly sticky”. Still, nothing a bit of warm, soapy water can’t fix.

Such double meaning ;)


i think the reason why Jack didn't rush to Ianto's side is b/c he remembers what happened after Countrycide, after all it's a similar situation.... He knows how strong Ianto is and just when exactly he's gonna need the comfort the most, like behind closed doors and away from prying eyes.... just b/c we don't see anything on screen doesn't mean Jack doesn't do anything, rushing to his side immediately really just undermines Ianto's own strength, and Ianot is the type of man who likes to keep his stoic front... we rarely get see him overly emotional and the fact that Jack practically ignores him just shows how much he respects Ianto imho

Red Phoniex
February 9th, 2008, 12:48 AM
I think the Gwen & Jack stuff from Jack POV is about family, friendship and is not sexual.

I was a little surprised to release that Ianto/Jack still haven't told the others about them. Although it is kinda sweet that they are keeping it to themselves. I hope next week is the week it all gets revealed. :) I am actually glad myself that Jack and Ianto don't need to be in each others faces with the "how are you" stuff, they are guys after all... lets not get girly about that, guys don't always need to say that stuff... that is what beds (desks) are for! lol :P:D


with Gwen and sleepers



I was wondering when she was saying about Jacks bed habits that she had personal experience of them but it makes complete sense that she would speak that way if Ianto had told her. As well as the end of 'Meat', it looks that way.


i didn't want them to go rushing into eachothers arms or anything but a quick 'Ianto, you ok?' across the room wouldn't have gone unmissed. :rolleyes:

phibi
February 9th, 2008, 03:26 PM
i didn't want them to go rushing into eachothers arms or anything but a quick 'Ianto, you ok?' across the room wouldn't have gone unmissed. :rolleyes:

I second that but I can see you point as well Lilith

Willow'sCat
February 9th, 2008, 03:33 PM
finally something i can comment on :p yay for delurking!Yay! :p


i think the reason why Jack didn't rush to Ianto's side is b/c he remembers what happened after Countrycide, after all it's a similar situation.... He knows how strong Ianto is and just when exactly he's gonna need the comfort the most, like behind closed doors and away from prying eyes.... just b/c we don't see anything on screen doesn't mean Jack doesn't do anything, rushing to his side immediately really just undermines Ianto's own strength, and Ianot is the type of man who likes to keep his stoic front... we rarely get see him overly emotional and the fact that Jack practically ignores him just shows how much he respects Ianto imhoOK what Lilith said. That is what I mean about not being girls. :p I just think they have this dynamic that means a lot of what 'we' as slashers might like to see or hear will happen off screen, sure Jack could have yelled over to Ianto but really it wasn't necessary for the flow of the story. We know he cares deeply for Ianto. ;)I think in shows like this where time is important, they will leave in what is good for the story and omit or remove what will "only" be important for the characters. It stinks but that is what happens, story flow comes first the rest is just gravy if you can get it. ;)

Lilith
February 9th, 2008, 08:49 PM
after actually watching the ep, i'd like to add that yeah Ianto's situation was not exactly the best, but he didn't have any life threatening or potentially dangerous injuries, as opposed to Rhys' gun shot wound or the dieing alien manatee... quite simply, Ianto could wait.... tho it looked like Jack was forsaking Ianto for the manatee, i bet his mind was working a million miles per second... he had to think about what to do with Rhys, what to do with the bohemoth body, Ianto being in serious danger again, feeling guilty for not being able to save the manatee, feeling guilty for putting Rhys in danger, feeling guilty about not making Gwen stand down, and those are only the most obvious.... before he could focus on Ianto, he needed a moment to compose himself, so he did the one thing he could... he concentrated on the task at hand, letting go the victim and accepting that he failed his own personal mission, and then getting everyone out and back to the hub... when gwen came rushing back in to tell Jack she wasn't gonna retcon Rhys, Jack and Ianto were sitting in his office, and by the looks of it, Ianto was drinking brandy, or maybe whiskey... but the main point is that they were sitting together in Jack's office talking, and i bet that was Jack's attempt at comfort for both of them and closure for himself until they could get a moment to themselves....

Willow'sCat
February 9th, 2008, 09:11 PM
You know it occured to me that since thier relationship is a secret that they may have already talked about how they would act if something was to happen to one of them.

Maybe this is what they decided; that if it isn't life threatening, or the threat is over, that they carry on as if nothing is between them until they have some time alone. Then they can ask the things they need, touch each other to make sure they are still *alive* (well not in Jack's case obviously :p) and basically reaffirm their luv.

I mean look at Gwen with Rhys, he hadn't even step foot in the lorry and she was a nervous wreak, that just wouldn't work between Jack and Ianto week in and out. :cool:;)

Lilith
February 9th, 2008, 09:13 PM
agreed!! the love is in the subtext! with the occasional porn to satify the masses :p

zuz
February 9th, 2008, 11:28 PM
agreed!! the love is in the subtext! with the occasional porn to satify the masses :p
Amen to that! ;)

zuz
February 10th, 2008, 03:36 AM
SQUEEWORTHY MATERIAL from John Barrowman's Autobiography Anything Goes

MAJOR S2 SPOILER!"In one of the early episodes of the second series, Ianto has a meltdown in the Hub one night, for reasons far too complicated to go into here, but if you've seen it, you'll know. I have to admit it's one of my favourite episodes to date. Anyway, while Jack comforts Ianto, he shifts from innocent consolation to a full-on, passionate embrace and kiss.
Gareth and I assumed 'the position' and went for it. The episode's director never called 'cut'. By the time Gareth and I were hitting the two-minute mark, my lips were getting numb and Gareth was getting twitchy.
'You ******!" we both yelled in unison, when we finally realized what was going on and pulled apart."

thanks to tigercheetah who posted this quote from the book on her LJ

One word only: OUTTAKES *fingers crossed*

I have some bad news :( spoilers for ep 5 ADAMThe kiss has been cut from the episode (although there is still a chance however small that the kiss JB was talking about is from a different episode)

What we get in Adam is a comforting hug and later a kiss on the forehead

source: Promethea from TWoP forums who claims to have seen the episode (other spoilers she provided so far turned out to be true, so I'm inclined to believe it)

Willow'sCat
February 10th, 2008, 12:15 PM
I have some bad news :( spoilers for ep 5 ADAMThe kiss has been cut from the episode (although there is still a chance however small that the kiss JB was talking about is from a different episode)

What we get in Adam is a comforting hug and later a kiss on the forehead

source: Promethea from TWoP forums who claims to have seen the episode (other spoilers she provided so far turned out to be true, so I'm inclined to believe it)Hmm, I never thought the whole two minutes would survive... maybe on the DVD outtakes :) maybe the moment was meant to just console him and this other stuff when edited was too much, not necessarily too much for viewers but too much for the scene, might have ruined the "moment" so if pulling back helps that moment I am still happy. Although fingers crossed on Outtakes!!! :D They do treat us well with outtakes. ;)

zuz
February 10th, 2008, 12:39 PM
(((Willow's Cat))) That's what I have thought, too, spoilers for ep 5 Adam cutting the kiss because it might have ruined the moment. Jack simply being there for Ianto shows that the relationship isn't solely about sex. ;)

Although I have from the same source that in the ep 6 ResetIanto shares more details about Jack's bed habits (describing "Jack's technique as innovative and avantgarde" :p Am I the only one disturbed by the fact that Ianto turns out to be a kiss-and-tell kind of guy? ;)

Willow'sCat
February 10th, 2008, 12:47 PM
(((Willow's Cat))) That's what I have thought, too, spoilers for ep 5 Adam cutting the kiss because it might have ruined the moment. Jack simply being there for Ianto shows that the relationship isn't solely about sex. ;)

Although I have from the same source that in the ep 6 ResetIanto shares more details about Jack's bed habits (describing "Jack's technique as innovative and avantgarde" :p Am I the only one disturbed by the fact that Ianto turns out to be a kiss-and-tell kind of guy? ;)It's always the quiet ones. ;)

Sun'shyne
February 10th, 2008, 01:51 PM
Gwen might know. Tosh and Owen seem clueless, though.

Gwen said in Meat that none of them have partners outside of here (meaning TW). With her comments about Jack's bedroom manners in Sleeper, maybe, just maybe Ianto & her chat. I doubt the second point myself, though. Anyhow, I think she knows. Tosh's talk about sad singles make it obvious that she doesn't know, and I don't thing Owen does either. Love the looks from Ianto during that conversation!

I think Owen probably has a good idea aboutit too... remember in 'End of days' jack hugs everyone but snogs Ianto.


with Gwen and sleepers



I was wondering when she was saying about Jacks bed habits that she had personal experience of them but it makes complete sense that she would speak that way if Ianto had told her. As well as the end of 'Meat', it looks that way.


i didn't want them to go rushing into eachothers arms or anything but a quick 'Ianto, you ok?' across the room wouldn't have gone unmissed. :rolleyes:

I see your point maybe it should have gone something like this

"You okay?"
*nods head*
"Go after them!"


You know it occured to me that since thier relationship is a secret that they may have already talked about how they would act if something was to happen to one of them.

Maybe this is what they decided; that if it isn't life threatening, or the threat is over, that they carry on as if nothing is between them until they have some time alone. Then they can ask the things they need, touch each other to make sure they are still *alive* (well not in Jack's case obviously :p) and basically reaffirm their luv.

I mean look at Gwen with Rhys, he hadn't even step foot in the lorry and she was a nervous wreak, that just wouldn't work between Jack and Ianto week in and out. :cool:;)

This is why I loved Meat...
Rhys has a gun to his head and Gwen runs out even though jack was trying to get her not to.... ianto's life is threatened and Jack does the same thing. It was a great episode for relationship parallels. I think Jack is beginning to see that Torchwood isn't everything, and it is possible for him to have love and an honest relationship.... kinda makes you wonder if things could have worked for longer between him and Estelle if only he had been upfront with her like he can be with Ianto. Ianto knows the deal... he knows that as a human, he will grow old and die, but Jack won't.

It's always the quiet ones. ;)

Lilith
February 10th, 2008, 05:41 PM
i think Ianto's just exagerating to yank Jack's chain... i mean there may be some truth to what he says, this is Jack we're talking about after all, but Ianto wouldn't spill the intimate stuff... besides, to Jack there's really no difference between flirting and casual sex, as is probably the result of his 51st century upbringing... something that's reaffirmed by how John interacted with the team in KKBB... flirting and sex are natural... it's the intimate stuff that Jack has a problem with, which makes it all the more sweeter for Ianto...

phibi
February 14th, 2008, 03:46 AM
Adam & Reset

oh my god.... not that both eps were only absolutely brilliant, but there was so much Ianto/Jack going on!

While I sure want to see that kiss, it wouldn't have fit into that scene in Adam... that was about comfort and calming Ianto down, a kiss wouldn't have done any good...
But I liked it that Ianto trusted Jack and Jack trusted in Ianto. That shows more of a relationship than any kiss :)
And the kiss on Ianto's forehead later on was sooooo sweet!

and in Reset... when Martha tells Ianto about the unit cap *giggles* his embarrassed reaction had me in stitches, followed by a squee moment with him saying: we dabble.... and his expression.. totall zoned out for a moment...


oh I love this pairing!! Or I think, I can say "couple" by now :)

Willow'sCat
February 15th, 2008, 03:27 AM
Oh that kiss :)on the forehead was sweet.


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/mcshep/vlcsnap-202230.png

I loved the moment where Jack just grabs Ianto and hugs him. *squee*


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/mcshep/vlcsnap-204794.png


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/mcshep/vlcsnap-206094.png


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/mcshep/vlcsnap-204882.png


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/mcshep/vlcsnap-204860.png

rosey_angel
February 15th, 2008, 03:51 AM
Adam aww that kiss at the end *sigh* such the sweetest thing to do at that time. shows that jack really cares about ianto

Willow'sCat
February 15th, 2008, 04:01 AM
Adam aww that kiss at the end *sigh* such the sweetest thing to do at that time. shows that jack really cares about ianto
*nods* Definitely. :)

I love this show!:D

Lilith
February 15th, 2008, 07:15 AM
Adam was great!!! and then watching Reset afterwards -dies- but omg! comfort!Janto was -flails at loss of words- and then that exchange b/t Ianto and Martha was just classic xD

Switch42
February 15th, 2008, 02:49 PM
Adam was great!!! and then watching Reset afterwards -dies- but omg! comfort!Janto was -flails at loss of words- and then that exchange b/t Ianto and Martha was just classic xD

LOVED that bit. "We dabble." I bet you do! ;)

Sun'shyne
February 15th, 2008, 07:46 PM
Adam & Reset

oh my god.... not that both eps were only absolutely brilliant, but there was so much Ianto/Jack going on!

While I sure want to see that kiss, it wouldn't have fit into that scene in Adam... that was about comfort and calming Ianto down, a kiss wouldn't have done any good...
But I liked it that Ianto trusted Jack and Jack trusted in Ianto. That shows more of a relationship than any kiss :)
And the kiss on Ianto's forehead later on was sooooo sweet!

and in Reset... when Martha tells Ianto about the unit cap *giggles* his embarrassed reaction had me in stitches, followed by a squee moment with him saying: we dabble.... and his expression.. totall zoned out for a moment...


oh I love this pairing!! Or I think, I can say "couple" by now :)


LOVED that bit. "We dabble." I bet you do! ;)

Adam & Reset
Oh wow.. what can I possibly say.. what words are good enough for these two episodes??

Iloved both epis... and I have to agree with both Phibi and Switch! And I have to add in that the "measuring tape" conversation was my favourite in any show at any time... that was pure class!!! Especially because of what JB is known for ;)

Also loved the kiss on the forehead... shows much moree than just "dabbling" between them!

Willow'sCat
February 15th, 2008, 11:35 PM
I liked the line about the measuring tape but it was hardly classy. :P Hmm, what excately is John known for again? :S:cool::D I know what Tennant is known for... hee.

*PG forum* :P

JackHarkness_Hot
February 16th, 2008, 05:44 AM
Either way, I know that Ianto is getting buffer and buffer, sexier and sexier, HOTTER & HOTTER!!!!!! :D

Red Phoniex
February 17th, 2008, 02:38 AM
Either way, I know that Ianto is getting buffer and buffer, sexier and sexier, HOTTER & HOTTER!!!!!! :D

Totally!!!!

I'm back from my week in Scotland :D had to rush back to the apartment on Wednesday and missed the first 5 minutes, then realised i hadn't set reset at home! Nearly throw something at the t.v. :o
Adam

Was waiting for the kiss all episode but i loved the way Jack trusted Ianto, there was never any doubt in his mind that Ianto might be telling the truth. The kiss on the forehead was even better than a make out as it shows how deep their relationship is getting. Fingers crossed for bloppers as well! ;)


Reset

OMFG!!! I couldn't stop giggling at the unit cap scenes, first Jack then Ianto 'we dabble'. And the scene where Owen nearly takes Iantos head off and then the guts bit! There was so much i loved about that episode.



Edit: 1000 posts!!!!!!!!!!!!! Off celebrating! :D

phibi
February 17th, 2008, 05:31 AM
Totally!!!!

I'm back from my week in Scotland :D had to rush back to the apartment on Wednesday and missed the first 5 minutes, then realised i hadn't set reset at home! Nearly throw something at the t.v. :o
Adam

Was waiting for the kiss all episode but i loved the way Jack trusted Ianto, there was never any doubt in his mind that Ianto might be telling the truth. The kiss on the forehead was even better than a make out as it shows how deep their relationship is getting. Fingers crossed for bloppers as well! ;)


Reset

OMFG!!! I couldn't stop giggling at the unit cap scenes, first Jack then Ianto 'we dabble'. And the scene where Owen nearly takes Iantos head off and then the guts bit! There was so much i loved about that episode.



Edit: 1000 posts!!!!!!!!!!!!! Off celebrating! :D

congrats to 1000 posts :)

Sun'shyne
February 17th, 2008, 10:24 AM
I liked the line about the measuring tape but it was hardly classy. :P Hmm, what excately is John known for again? :S:cool::D I know what Tennant is known for... hee.

*PG forum* :P

Ironically they're both known for the same thing.. though I heard DT's was a joke n.n.... (I say we find out fact from fiction... any volunteers? LMAO)

*runs away from the PG-Police*

Willow'sCat
February 17th, 2008, 03:25 PM
Ironically they're both known for the same thing.. though I heard DT's was a joke n.n.... (I say we find out fact from fiction... any volunteers? LMAO)

*runs away from the PG-Police**Me! pick me!* :P Hmm, I could say so much but I would get modded. :D:p *moving on*

Lilith
February 18th, 2008, 05:31 AM
which is why i lurk :p -sweeps gutter floor-

rosey_angel
February 18th, 2008, 07:43 PM
reset dabble!!! dabble!!! bwahaha oh those two get me going. i love jack asking martha to get ianto a red hat. is anyone else thinking ianto wearing a red hat, a tie, and nothing else???

Red Phoniex
February 19th, 2008, 04:25 AM
reset dabble!!! dabble!!! bwahaha oh those two get me going. i love jack asking martha to get ianto a red hat. is anyone else thinking ianto wearing a red hat, a tie, and nothing else???

just the image i got
:D

Lilith
February 19th, 2008, 10:48 AM
reset dabble!!! dabble!!! bwahaha oh those two get me going. i love jack asking martha to get ianto a red hat. is anyone else thinking ianto wearing a red hat, a tie, and nothing else???
-stares off into space for a few minutes- xD

zuz
February 19th, 2008, 12:54 PM
this thread needs more piccies of janto goodness :p

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/1x05/105_janto01.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/1x05/105_janto02.jpg

P.S.: (((Sunny))) I guess that the first pic was the one you were looking for a while back - ianto, jack and a cup of cofee. :)

huntress
February 19th, 2008, 01:06 PM
Hi :waves. Haven't posted here before but I sneaked in now and then. I jus had to gush and thought this would be the right place for it.

Oh.My.Gosh. I just saw "To The Last Man". I felt very sorry for Tosh but what totally sidetracked me was the KISS. Yes it is the third now but this is getting better and better.


Being here, I’ve seen things I never dreamed I’d see. Loved people I never would have known if I just stayed where I was. I wouldn’t change that for the world.

and that KISS that made me all hot and bothered. Phew.

Jack and Ianto Forever

Willow'sCat
February 20th, 2008, 12:11 AM
this thread needs more piccies of Ianto goodness :p



http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/1x05/105_janto01.jpg


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/1x05/105_janto02.jpg

Oh they are very nice. :) I love Ianto in his suit, or out of it... whatever! *hee*


Oh.My.Gosh. I just saw "To The Last Man". I felt very sorry for Tosh but what totally sidetracked me was the KISS. Yes it is the third now but this is getting better and better.Yay! If it goes on like this I won't need to read anymore fanfics :p the real thing is just too good all by itself, although I wouldn't say no to a "bed scene" in an eppy. *whistles innocently*

I can't wait for the next ep!

rosey_angel
February 20th, 2008, 12:49 AM
did i hear some one say, more janto goodness???

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l182/faithful_deception/TW_1_SmallWorlds/1x05SmallWorlds-00068.jpg

Red Phoniex
February 20th, 2008, 08:00 AM
Hey guys! We've had 100 posts! Go Janto!!!!!!! :D

zuz
February 20th, 2008, 12:19 PM
non-spoilerish episode still from Reset

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/promos/2x6_jackianto.jpg

And YAY for 100 posts. :)

Lilith
February 20th, 2008, 01:19 PM
alright girls [( and any boys lurking )] i'm feeling entirely lazy, and i know for a fact that atleast one person here has what i'm looking for... i need fangirl!porn and lots of it.... it's my next banner* project.... once it's done, i'll post it here.... i'm accepting all pics, not just Janto, but mostly Janto :p

*i've made every single banner in my sig except for the diet otaku

rosey_angel
February 20th, 2008, 04:24 PM
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l182/faithful_deception/TW_1_EndOfDays/1x13EndofDays01416.jpg

don't know if i'd call this "fangirl!porn", but i like this picture. a nice hug

Lilith
February 20th, 2008, 04:42 PM
lol... i refer to kiss caps as porn :p but that's a good pic either way

zuz
February 20th, 2008, 04:47 PM
lol... i refer to kiss caps as porn :p but that's a good pic either way
Here you go. :p


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/promos/TW-JackIanto1x13.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/1x04/CWM_kiss.jpg

To The Last Man
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/2x03/2x3_2.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/2x03/2x3_3.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/2x03/2x3_4.jpg

Lilith
February 20th, 2008, 05:09 PM
thanks zuz... like we need a reason to post those but still... i'm suprised they haven't popped up more often :p

Lilith
February 21st, 2008, 07:51 AM
omg, OMG, OMG!!! just watched 2.07.... spoilers for 2.02 and 2.07
remember at the beginning of Sleeper, Jack said something about a hockey stick in reply to one of the cops saying "why else wpuld you have sports gear in the bedroom?" and then just now in Dead Man Walking, the part where the glove attacks Martha and Ianto goes and gets a hockey stick... the expression he and Jack exchange are hilarious!!! and i wound never have noticed if i hadn't gotten confused and read spoilers on LJ... i try not to read anything posted on wednesday and thursday until i see the new episode b/c viewer posted spoilers are just no fun.... but then i knew what to look for and it just made my day

rhynny
February 21st, 2008, 10:15 AM
^ lolz! kinky stuff in the bedroom! was that in the trailer?

phibi
February 21st, 2008, 10:36 AM
wanna have a good laugh? watch this *giggles*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yVprFDmezA

and another one.. same song, but this time sort of Jack/Doctor John/David

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_PxPzvxY9A

zuz
February 21st, 2008, 11:03 AM
wanna have a good laugh? watch this *giggles*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yVprFDmezA

and another one.. same song, but this time sort of Jack/Doctor John/David

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_PxPzvxY9A
Those are great. I wanted to rec them, too. But you beat me to it, phibi. :)

I esp love this part: "Only for you I said that your blue dress was nice. That was lie. Your butt looked exceptionally fat." *lolz* Yanto can be so mean when he wants to. :p

rhynny
February 21st, 2008, 11:19 AM
rewatching Reset on BBC2...is it just me or does it seems like Jacks getting gayer every episode? "Neato!"..."Gray is so not her color!"...."I had a boyfriend whose nostrils flare when he lies."....i think this is a good thing...Ianto and him must be working out.....

huntress
February 21st, 2008, 11:33 AM
wanna have a good laugh? watch this *giggles*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yVprFDmezA

and another one.. same song, but this time sort of Jack/Doctor John/David

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_PxPzvxY9A

Maaaah sind die lieb. Gibt es dafür irgendwo einen download?

Really, do you know where to download the first one because I totally squeed over it

und nebenbei ist es schön noch ein Nordlich zu sehen. Ich lebe nur in Wien komm aber aus Ratzeburg :g:

Edit: Found them on her journal. Goody. In case anyone else wants to download them

http://samantharichter.livejournal.com

huntress
February 21st, 2008, 12:01 PM
I just saw Reset

When Martha asked Ianto if he and Jack are together...that look from Ianto....so sweet!

I am with all the people who zoned out then. I certainly did. I am so in love with this pairing. Really who needs fanfics when the real deal is so incredibly good. Still have to watch last nights episode.

Willow'sCat
February 21st, 2008, 12:54 PM
rewatching Reset on BBC2...is it just me or does it seems like Jacks getting gayer every episode? "Neato!"..."Gray is so not her color!"...."I had a boyfriend whose nostrils flare when he lies."....i think this is a good thing...Ianto and him must be working out.....
Not sure what you mean by "gayer"? *walks away*

I think Dead Man Walking was the weakest ep yet, not only is there no Jack/Ianto (hockey sticks aside... I thought we were threw with the need for subtext) the story was weak. :( I hope this was just a hiccup.

phibi
February 21st, 2008, 02:30 PM
Those are great. I wanted to rec them, too. But you beat me to it, phibi. :)

I esp love this part: "Only for you I said that your blue dress was nice. That was lie. Your butt looked exceptionally fat." *lolz* Yanto can be so mean if he wants to. :p

oh yeah, I laughed so hart at that part :)


Maaaah sind die lieb. Gibt es dafür irgendwo einen download?

Really, do you know where to download the first one because I totally squeed over it

und nebenbei ist es schön noch ein Nordlich zu sehen. Ich lebe nur in Wien komm aber aus Ratzeburg :g:

Edit: Found them on her journal. Goody. In case anyone else wants to download them

http://samantharichter.livejournal.com

Ah, ein bißchen deutsch im Forum reden? *gg* ich muss immer zweimal lesen, um das zu verstehen.. bin immer so im englischen drin, wenn ich hier bin :)

thanks for the download link!!!

and truly nice to have another "nordlicht" here :)

zuz
February 21st, 2008, 02:42 PM
Fic Rec

Excerpts From the Sekrit Diary of Ianto Jones by sulla
Rating: R
Pairing: Jack/Ianto
Summary: A few excerpts taken at random from Ianto's diary.

Part 1 (http://users.livejournal.com/sulla_/281478.html#cutid1)
Part 2 (http://users.livejournal.com/sulla_/281709.html#cutid1)
Part 3 (http://users.livejournal.com/sulla_/281919.html#cutid1)
Part 4 (http://users.livejournal.com/sulla_/282240.html)

Ace fic, great humour. Can't recommend it enough. http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/ianto_thumbup1.gif

phibi
February 21st, 2008, 02:47 PM
Fic Rec

Excerpts From the Sekrit Diary of Ianto Jones by sulla
Rating: R
Pairing: Jack/Ianto
Summary: A few excerpts taken at random from Ianto's diary.

Part 1 (http://users.livejournal.com/sulla_/281478.html#cutid1)
Part 2 (http://users.livejournal.com/sulla_/281709.html#cutid1)
Part 3 (http://users.livejournal.com/sulla_/281919.html#cutid1)
Part 4 (http://users.livejournal.com/sulla_/282240.html)

Ace fic, great humour. Can't recommend it enough. http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/ianto_thumbup1.gif

I second that... Ianto's diary is hilarious :) I cracked up when he talked about cleaning Jack's hole...

Lilith
February 21st, 2008, 04:43 PM
Fic Rec

Excerpts From the Sekrit Diary of Ianto Jones by sulla
Rating: R
Pairing: Jack/Ianto
Summary: A few excerpts taken at random from Ianto's diary.

Part 1 (http://users.livejournal.com/sulla_/281478.html#cutid1)
Part 2 (http://users.livejournal.com/sulla_/281709.html#cutid1)
Part 3 (http://users.livejournal.com/sulla_/281919.html#cutid1)
Part 4 (http://users.livejournal.com/sulla_/282240.html)

Ace fic, great humour. Can't recommend it enough. http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/ianto_thumbup1.gif
i third it, and watch out for #3.... that scene in the archeives.... i read it while i was sitting in front of my professor in class while he was lecturing and managed to keep a straight face... my own self-restraint both amazes and scares me....

zuz
February 22nd, 2008, 01:24 PM
I love sulla's description of Jack meeting Ianto's parents
"Now not sure if whole event was sweeping success or utter disaster. Jack hit on mother, groped father. Parents were simultaneously charmed and horrified."

Excerpts From the Sekrit Diary of Ianto Jones by sulla

Poor Ianto. Poor parents. Devil!Jack. He simply has no shame. http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/cptnjack_devil.gif

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/cptnjack_lol.gifhttp://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/cptnjack_lol.gifhttp://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/cptnjack_lol.gif

BTW (((Lilith))) I admire your self-restraint. http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/cptnjack_wink-1.gif

Lilith
February 22nd, 2008, 05:09 PM
oh quite! if i were dating Jack, i don't think i would ever take him home to meet the folks... unless i was extremely bored and feeling masochistic :p and yes, i am the queen of self-restraint... after all, i read 95% of fanfiction inside the classroom and manage to keep a straight face all the time....

zuz
February 22nd, 2008, 05:56 PM
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/ianto_eyebrows.gif Vid Recs http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/cptnjack_grin2.gif


Can you feel the love tonight (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw0wWHO4UDk) by smithers1994 - Song: Can you feel the love tonight from Lion King Soundtrack (not Elton John's version); Characters: Doctor, Martha, Jack/Ianto
What can I say in my defence? I'm a sucker for humorous vids
and this one is just hilarious in the best way (Doctor and Martha as Timon and Pumba?! It's a must see.) Summary: Doctor, Martha and Jack are happy going round time traveling and saving the world...until Jack joins torchwood and falls in love with Ianto.


Janto is Everything (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEjLUk-zAXM) by thaddia13 - Song: Everything by Michael Buble; Spoilers thru Torchwood 2x03 Last Man; Romantic Vid
The song went really good with the clips, but what I liked the most was a very clever use of voiceovers

Red Phoniex
February 28th, 2008, 03:16 AM
hey guys. this is for anyone not able to follow the bbc website game. this was in the messages from Ianto to Jack after this weeks episode, had me cracking up


Funny, I was just thinking 'Why don't those two get a room'...

Only kidding. In fact, it's already done. You underestimate me, as ever. Incidentally, I think you could probably do with some R&R yourself. Let me know if you'd like my hands to work their magic, or if you'd just like a massage.

Ianto

> Could you call Martha's hotel and book her in for a couple extra
> nights? I have a feeling we're going to need her a little longer, don't
> you?

Lilith
February 28th, 2008, 04:45 AM
omfg! that's the best!

phibi
February 28th, 2008, 08:03 AM
A Day in the Death

I could've slapped Owen for his comment about Ianto getting to go on missions now that he is shagging Jack...

Ianto was so obviously hurt by that... I liked it, how he said it's different with him and Jack... but in the same time he didn't look that convinced about it... I sure hope it works out with our two boys :) I want to see more kissing (or whatever ;))*sigh*

Sun'shyne
February 29th, 2008, 05:23 PM
this thread needs more piccies of janto goodness :p

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/1x05/105_janto01.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/1x05/105_janto02.jpg

P.S.: (((Sunny))) I guess that the first pic was the one you were looking for a while back - ianto, jack and a cup of cofee. :)

It sure was!!! and I'll be altering my banner for it!!!



A Day in the Death

I could've slapped Owen for his comment about Ianto getting to go on missions now that he is shagging Jack...

Ianto was so obviously hurt by that... I liked it, how he said it's different with him and Jack... but in the same time he didn't look that convinced about it... I sure hope it works out with our two boys :) I want to see more kissing (or whatever ;))*sigh*


A Day in the Death

I want to start out by saying that I really liked this episode!

I agree that Ianto didn't look too convinced, though I'm sure it's that way with almost anyone in a relationship just starting out.

I loved the Tin Tin conversation! The 'WTF' look Ianto gave Owen with the "shagging the dog" comment was a purly classic Ianto look!!!

phibi
March 1st, 2008, 05:16 AM
from the captain's log on the bbca site

for meat:

Ianto turned into a fighting, kicking, stun-gun machine, it was very exciting. I must get put in danger more often.

for adam:

The only thing out of place was Ianto’s diary, which I found in my office. Naturally, I gave it back to him immediately after reading through it. Several interesting factual errors in there - and I thought he would know how to convert inches to centimetres. You think you know someone...

Lilith
March 1st, 2008, 12:58 PM
rofl! on the conversion :p tip for Ianto, it's 2.54 cm per inch ;)

Willow'sCat
March 1st, 2008, 05:11 PM
rofl! on the conversion :p tip for Ianto, it's 2.54 cm per inch ;)It slays me! lol There is no ambiguity at all! :p

rosey_angel
March 2nd, 2008, 12:05 AM
bahaha the captains log for meat!

lonely_angel_42
March 2nd, 2008, 03:25 PM
Lilith: Haha. I used to once do that.

The teacher was once helpin the person next to me and I had a fic on one of my screens (we had 2) and sure it wasn't that smutty but still, lol and but I swear they saw a little of it before i pulled up a project. Heh.

And to be on topic, how much do I love that something I ship is finally canon? lol. :D

rosey_angel
March 2nd, 2008, 05:15 PM
And to be on topic, how much do I love that something I ship is finally canon? lol. :D

i know! it's about time

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l182/faithful_deception/TW_1_Cyberwoman/ep4_18.jpg

Willow'sCat
March 2nd, 2008, 06:23 PM
And to be on topic, how much do I love that something I ship is finally canon? lol. :DOh it makes me so incredibly happy. I have shipped (not on line just in my head :P) official pairings in the past on shows but somehow this pairing means more to me, in a not at all pathetic fandom kind of way. :p:D

lonely_angel_42
March 2nd, 2008, 11:38 PM
Hehe. :D

I think I get it. :)

Willow'sCat
March 3rd, 2008, 02:39 AM
Vid Rec *sorry if someone already posted it*

Ianto & Jack Coffee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTXc-UKKa2E&feature=related) by KellyC84

:)

rosey_angel
March 3rd, 2008, 05:16 PM
Vid Rec *sorry if someone already posted it*

Ianto & Jack Coffee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTXc-UKKa2E&feature=related) by KellyC84

:)

ohhh that was a very nice one! don't know if it has been posted before but it's the first i've seen it

Red Phoniex
March 4th, 2008, 04:05 AM
Vid Rec *sorry if someone already posted it*

Ianto & Jack Coffee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTXc-UKKa2E&feature=related) by KellyC84

:)

prefect song but not the best editing. still worth watching, got some great scenes in.

This one's nice and it's John singing Heaven so extra goodness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB_P8HUcAjE&feature=related

rosey_angel
March 4th, 2008, 04:33 AM
This one's nice and it's John singing Heaven so extra goodness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB_P8HUcAjE&feature=related

that one is good, excpet it has my one pet peeve; repeat clips, using the same clip more than once turns me off a video right away.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l182/faithful_deception/TW_1_SmallWorlds/1x05SmallWorlds-00068.jpg

Willow'sCat
March 5th, 2008, 12:37 AM
prefect song but not the best editing. still worth watching, got some great scenes in.


I can see that (editing) but I think some of it is to do with Youtube. It is just such a crap site for hosting.:D

phibi
March 5th, 2008, 03:05 PM
Something borrowed

oh thank you PTB for that episode!! After all the heavy stuff in the previous episodes I was craving for a lighter one and I got it :)

and sooooo many Jack/Ianto bits :) the little scene in Jack's office when they discuss bride's dresses, the sort of jealous reaction when Ianto agrees with Owen, Jack's remark what he will do when Gwen is on her honeymoon.. "Pizza and Ianto" and of course Ianto interrupting Jack and Gwen to dance with Jack!!!!

Oh squeeeee, my slasher heart is jumping joyfully up and down :)

Lilith
March 5th, 2008, 03:12 PM
Something borrowed

oh thank you PTB for that episode!! After all the heavy stuff in the previous episodes I was craving for a lighter one and I got it :)

and sooooo many Jack/Ianto bits :) the little scene in Jack's office when they discuss bride's dresses, the sort of jealous reaction when Ianto agrees with Owen, Jack's remark what he will do when Gwen is on her honeymoon.. "Pizza and Ianto" and of course Ianto interrupting Jack and Gwen to dance with Jack!!!!

Oh squeeeee, my slasher heart is jumping joyfully up and down :)
oooh! can't wait to watch it myself... thanks for the heads up!

Willow'sCat
March 6th, 2008, 01:27 AM
Hmm, I just watched "Something borrowed"...I like it a lot!

However: *sorry it is rather long-winded* :P before I had watched it I went on line *as you do* to read some fan reviews of the episode and while most were rating this a good episode there were also some who were concerned about Jack's treatment of Ianto. Some were really angry.

Having seen the episode now I am none the wiser as to why they were so upset... unless of course
they actually think tptb are going to SHIP Jack/Ianto to the hilt, that they think tptb will ignore the fact Jack flirts (and by flirt I mean sleeps with) almost anyone he wants to!

I saw the wedding photo Jack had of himself and whoever his wife was, but so what? That was years ago.

Seriously if the reason for some of the neg comments in the reviews I read about Jack were because this show isn't gay enough? Isn't pushing the envelope enough in that area... that Ianto only said they "dabble" not they are in love... well what do folks want? Hearts and flowers? A civil ceremony? Really? :rolleyes:

Jack asked Ianto out on a date in the first episode, they have kissed, Jack trusted Ianto so much (Adam) that he wasn't willing to believe what was in front of his eyes (rightly so) and it is Ianto that Jack *I am sure* cuddled up to after the Wedding, not Gwen!

For me that is enough, that is a whole lot of enough. It certainly is more then I get on 99% of other TV shows where I slash characters:mckay::sheppard::P and if in canon it all falls into a big heap then I will do what I do with 99% of the other shows... slash them anyway! http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/smilies/johnrodney_couple.gif

I see no down side here.

And yeah they dance, it was not as good as the dance in "Capt Jack Harkness" and they don't kiss but it was better then nothing, it was great!


See!


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/DrWho/vlcsnap-92720.png


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/DrWho/vlcsnap-92776.png


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/DrWho/vlcsnap-92804.png


:)

lonely_angel_42
March 6th, 2008, 12:08 PM
I was awesome. :D I liked this ep. :)

And yes, yes I know that you know maybe they ain't a full blown couple and all that yet, and that Ianto can take care of himself and all that but I still keep thinking I'll be very annoyed if Jack hurts him. lol.

But I never said I wanted a full relationship all of a sudden and you know it be all in our face. I was always for just you know the little touches here and there, a kiss there, etc. :D

And just *squee*, but do you think willow'scat that they haven't slept together yet? lol. Sure, it hasn't been shown but I doubt they haven't by now. lmao.

They dabble and it borders on avant garde. lol. *Shrugs*

I loved the dance. And the way Gwen thought he waned to dance with her and then he danced with Jack. Heh. Though it was an honest mistake, can't blame her.

Lilith
March 6th, 2008, 12:11 PM
just finished Something Borrowed... loved the dance scene... that was soo sweet!! and the two second lag where Gwen thought Ianto wanted to dance with her before he latched onto Jack!!!

and then guy at the dress shop was hilarious... and Ianto's parting line about being the Wedding Farie!!!
all in all, a really fun and sweet episode, both for Janto and the for team....

lonely_angel_42
March 6th, 2008, 12:45 PM
just finished Something Borrowed... loved the dance scene... that was soo sweet!! and the two second lag where Gwen thought Ianto wanted to dance with her before he latched onto Jack!!!

and then guy at the dress shop was hilarious... and Ianto's parting line about being the Wedding Farie!!!
all in all, a really fun and sweet episode, both for Janto and the for team....

Hehe.

Same here. I loved what he said about that. I was like hehe.

phibi
March 6th, 2008, 01:52 PM
Hmm, I just watched "Something borrowed"...I like it a lot!

However: *sorry it is rather long-winded* :P before I had watched it I went on line *as you do* to read some fan reviews of the episode and while most were rating this a good episode there were also some who were concerned about Jack's treatment of Ianto. Some were really angry.

Having seen the episode now I am none the wiser as to why they were so upset... unless of course
they actually think tptb are going to SHIP Jack/Ianto to the hilt, that they think tptb will ignore the fact Jack flirts (and by flirt I mean sleeps with) almost anyone he wants to!

I saw the wedding photo Jack had of himself and whoever his wife was, but so what? That was years ago.

Seriously if the reason for some of the neg comments in the reviews I read about Jack were because this show isn't gay enough? Isn't pushing the envelope enough in that area... that Ianto only said they "dabble" not they are in love... well what do folks want? Hearts and flowers? A civil ceremony? Really? :rolleyes:

Jack asked Ianto out on a date in the first episode, they have kissed, Jack trusted Ianto so much (Adam) that he wasn't willing to believe what was in front of his eyes (rightly so) and it is Ianto that Jack *I am sure* cuddled up to after the Wedding, not Gwen!

For me that is enough, that is a whole lot of enough. It certainly is more then I get on 99% of other TV shows where I slash characters:mckay::sheppard::P and if in canon it all falls into a big heap then I will do what I do with 99% of the other shows... slash them anyway! http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/smilies/johnrodney_couple.gif

I see no down side here.

And yeah they dance, it was not as good as the dance in "Capt Jack Harkness" and they don't kiss but it was better then nothing, it was great!


See!


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/DrWho/vlcsnap-92720.png


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/DrWho/vlcsnap-92776.png


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/DrWho/vlcsnap-92804.png


:)



I agree with you 100% here :) and still I'm greedy and want more Janto *lol*

but that episode did wonders for my mood and I was all cheered up today *lol*

huntress
March 6th, 2008, 02:12 PM
Something borrowed

oh thank you PTB for that episode!! After all the heavy stuff in the previous episodes I was craving for a lighter one and I got it :)

and sooooo many Jack/Ianto bits :) the little scene in Jack's office when they discuss bride's dresses, the sort of jealous reaction when Ianto agrees with Owen, Jack's remark what he will do when Gwen is on her honeymoon.. "Pizza and Ianto" and of course Ianto interrupting Jack and Gwen to dance with Jack!!!!

Oh squeeeee, my slasher heart is jumping joyfully up and down :)


yep yep yep and don't forget

the little scene in which Ianto helps Jack into his jacket! That was so intimate. I also loved the fact, that we learned a bit more about Ianto's past and the whole scene in the bridal shop was a hoot. "I am looking for a wedding dress for a friend." "Of course you are." God RIGHT at that moment I picture Ianto in that dress in front of Jack :headdesk: LMAO

no but really I totally enjoyed the episode!

huntress
March 6th, 2008, 02:17 PM
Hmm, I just watched "Something borrowed"...I like it a lot!

However: *sorry it is rather long-winded* :P before I had watched it I went on line *as you do* to read some fan reviews of the episode and while most were rating this a good episode there were also some who were concerned about Jack's treatment of Ianto. Some were really angry.

Having seen the episode now I am none the wiser as to why they were so upset... unless of course
they actually think tptb are going to SHIP Jack/Ianto to the hilt, that they think tptb will ignore the fact Jack flirts (and by flirt I mean sleeps with) almost anyone he wants to!

I saw the wedding photo Jack had of himself and whoever his wife was, but so what? That was years ago.

Seriously if the reason for some of the neg comments in the reviews I read about Jack were because this show isn't gay enough? Isn't pushing the envelope enough in that area... that Ianto only said they "dabble" not they are in love... well what do folks want? Hearts and flowers? A civil ceremony? Really? :rolleyes:

Jack asked Ianto out on a date in the first episode, they have kissed, Jack trusted Ianto so much (Adam) that he wasn't willing to believe what was in front of his eyes (rightly so) and it is Ianto that Jack *I am sure* cuddled up to after the Wedding, not Gwen!

For me that is enough, that is a whole lot of enough. It certainly is more then I get on 99% of other TV shows where I slash characters:mckay::sheppard::P and if in canon it all falls into a big heap then I will do what I do with 99% of the other shows... slash them anyway! http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/smilies/johnrodney_couple.gif

I see no down side here.

And yeah they dance, it was not as good as the dance in "Capt Jack Harkness" and they don't kiss but it was better then nothing, it was great!


See!


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/DrWho/vlcsnap-92720.png


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/DrWho/vlcsnap-92776.png


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/DrWho/vlcsnap-92804.png


:)




ITA!!!! I think the fandom is just too spoiled by now and getting just plain greedy LOL I am happy with what I have gotten so far too, because as you have already pointed out - this is more then we have gotten or will get from 99% of the other shows on air and most shows won't even go there. I mean come on. Normally we are already ready to open a bottle of champaign when there are deep, meaningfull glances and maybe a little touch and "Torchwood" gives us so much more.

lonely_angel_42
March 6th, 2008, 02:18 PM
yep yep yep and don't forget

the little scene in which Ianto helps Jack into his jacket! That was so intimate. I also loved the fact, that we learned a bit more about Ianto's past and the whole scene in the bridal shop was a hoot. "I am looking for a wedding dress for a friend." "Of course you are." God RIGHT at that moment I picture Ianto in that dress in front of Jack :headdesk: LMAO

no but really I totally enjoyed the episode!

Ooh. I so agree with you.

I was actually talking about TW at lunch today and kinda of explained the bridal shop thing and the guy totally laughed.

Since we started to work he has to endure my chatting about TW the next day. lmao. He doesn't mind that much... I think. lol.


ITA!!!! I think the fandom is just toospiled by now and they are just plain greedy now. I am happy with what I have too because as you have already pointed out - this is more then we have gotten fromm 99% of the shows and most shows won't even go there. I mean come on. We are already ready to open a bottle of champaign when there are deep, meaningfull glances and maybe a little touch and "Torchwood" gives us so much more.

Oh yes. I so agree. So agree.

Lilith
March 6th, 2008, 02:20 PM
:indeed: in other shows we're lucky if one of the pair acts a little camp and actually have to look for the subtext... Torchwood spoils us rotten with all its on-screen goodies.... people who are demanding more need to get their heads outta their arses and be thankful for what the ptb give us....

lonely_angel_42
March 6th, 2008, 02:22 PM
:indeed: in other shows we're lucky if one of the pair acts a little camp and actually have to look for the subtext... Torchwood spoils us rotten with all its on-screen goodies.... people who are demanding more need to get their heads outta their arses and be thankful for what the ptb give us....

Yes, totally.

We should be happy with what we're getting. :D

And like I've always said, I don't suddenly want them like flaunting a fully formed relationship.

Jack left for like how long and there are obviously issues, and it's not gonna be all sunshine and puppies.

I like the little bits we get. It just make me a fangirly and happy. :D

phibi
March 6th, 2008, 03:52 PM
yep yep yep and don't forget

the little scene in which Ianto helps Jack into his jacket! That was so intimate. I also loved the fact, that we learned a bit more about Ianto's past and the whole scene in the bridal shop was a hoot. "I am looking for a wedding dress for a friend." "Of course you are." God RIGHT at that moment I picture Ianto in that dress in front of Jack :headdesk: LMAO

no but really I totally enjoyed the episode!

oh yes!

the bridal shop! prizeless... and I just love gareth's acting. he doesn't even have to say anything, it's just the look he gives and it has me cracking up *lol*

hm, I'm actually picturing Ianto in tight jeans and a black shirt in front of jack's desk.... oh I better not go there... too late.... *happy sigh*

and for the record.. I'm savoring every little bit of canon!Janto they give us and treasure it! I'm still getting used to the fact that there is actually a show that shows my fangirlish dreams on screen *lol*

Red Phoniex
March 7th, 2008, 06:21 AM
loved something borrowed


couldn't stop giggling :D OMFG! the bridal shop lol! That ones going down as one of my favourite eps. I can see why people are upset and angry over Jack's way with other people that he likes. When he looked over to Gwen when dancing with Ianto, i wanted to hit him and tell him to appreicate the lovelyness that he's already got. But that might be cos i love Ianto ;)

Willow'sCat
March 8th, 2008, 02:29 AM
do you think willow'scat that they haven't slept together yet? Of course they have slept together, where did I say they hadn't? :P I was just pointing out the on-screen stuff that we do not need to imagine, do not need to rely purely on fanfics to give us, the stuff that proves that this show is not trying to shy away from the big gay love! ;)

We get kissing, dancing, dates... now that in canon for me is even better then seeing the flesh on flesh (not that I would say no to seeing the flesh on flesh :D). To me for a couple in a M/M relationship to be dating, kissing and dancing on-screen is the best thing ever, it is in many ways a chaste thing that many heterosexuals wouldn't say is what being gay is about, so I think it is a good thing. I think showing even Jack can be romantic, that it isn't all about sex for him... or them, well I think that is the best thing a show like Torchwood can do for *examples* of gay relationships on TV.

It is being political without actually being political. ;)

(When I say gay I mean whatever the frak these two are, omnisexual, gay!curious, whatever!)

lonely_angel_42
March 8th, 2008, 04:37 AM
heh. :) Okay. I agree. :D lol.

huntress
March 8th, 2008, 08:33 AM
Of course they have slept together, where did I say they hadn't? :P I was just pointing out the on-screen stuff that we do not need to imagine, do not need to rely purely on fanfics to give us, the stuff that proves that this show is not trying to shy away from the big gay love! ;)

We get kissing, dancing, dates... now that in canon for me is even better then seeing the flesh on flesh (not that I would say no to seeing the flesh on flesh :D). To me for a couple in a M/M relationship to be dating, kissing and dancing on-screen is the best thing ever, it is in many ways a chaste thing that many heterosexuals wouldn't say is what being gay is about, so I think it is a good thing. I think showing even Jack can be romantic, that it isn't all about sex for him... or them, well I think that is the best thing a show like Torchwood can do for *examples* of gay relationships on TV.

It is being political without actually being political. ;)

(When I say gay I mean whatever the frak these two are, omnisexual, gay!curious, whatever!)

I agree. Totally and I think that is also probably that John likes about the show :)

Lilith
March 8th, 2008, 06:09 PM
found this wonderful fan article about Janto on LJ and thought i'd share... spoilers thru 2.09 http://crabby-lioness.livejournal.com/33219.html

rosey_angel
March 11th, 2008, 03:50 AM
saw something blue today,

i thought the dance scene was so cute! the way they held hands? so adorable i could die!

even though there was some shippy jack/gwen moments, i still see their relationship as friendly. i think i've said this before, but i think jack sees her as a confidant, someone he can open up to and talk to. we all know how jack operates, flirting and physical touching is the way he shows affection. i think gwen is the only one of the bunch who woudn't fall for jacks way and sleep with him; she's just as stubborn as he

Red Phoniex
March 11th, 2008, 06:17 AM
saw something blue today,

i thought the dance scene was so cute! the way they held hands? so adorable i could die!

even though there was some shippy jack/gwen moments, i still see their relationship as friendly. i think i've said this before, but i think jack sees her as a confidant, someone he can open up to and talk to. we all know how jack operates, flirting and physical touching is the way he shows affection. i think gwen is the only one of the bunch who woudn't fall for jacks way and sleep with him; she's just as stubborn as he


I see the gwen/jack thing as a brother/sister sort of relationship. They're too similar and close to be a couple but still love eachother. Sort of like Daniel/sam in SG1 (don't kill me if you ship them!). They don't want to risk their friendship by taking it farther. Jack loves everyone on his team in their own different way IMO.

rosey_angel
March 11th, 2008, 06:31 AM
I see the gwen/jack thing as a brother/sister sort of relationship. They're too similar and close to be a couple but still love eachother. Sort of like Daniel/sam in SG1 (don't kill me if you ship them!). They don't want to risk their friendship by taking it farther. Jack loves everyone on his team in their own different way IMO.


personally, i think there's too much flirting for me to see it as a brother/sister relationship, but i agree with you on jack loving everyone in their own way.

Lilith
March 11th, 2008, 07:20 AM
I see the gwen/jack thing as a brother/sister sort of relationship. They're too similar and close to be a couple but still love eachother. Sort of like Daniel/sam in SG1 (don't kill me if you ship them!). They don't want to risk their friendship by taking it farther. Jack loves everyone on his team in their own different way IMO.



personally, i think there's too much flirting for me to see it as a brother/sister relationship, but i agree with you on jack loving everyone in their own way.
in a lot of the fanfics i've been reading, they allude gwen to rose... which i can see some of the time...

Willow'sCat
March 12th, 2008, 01:12 AM
Oh I think (why are you all spoiling things that are not spoilers? :P) Gwen is ROSE, only more blind actually she may be closer to Martha. ;)
And as for Jack and Gwen; in one way I see Jack thinking it would be a challenge, a risk and a huge rush to bed Gwen... but it would all just be a game to him in the end; he wouldn't stay with her... anyway lets face it the man is The Face of Boa, I am not looking for happily ever afters with Ianto/Jack I am taking what I can get for now.

And given the latest rumours that may not be for much longer... :( I wish the BBC would either deny (please) or confirm (ohnoes!) the rumours. I get more worried with each passing day. :S

rosey_angel
March 12th, 2008, 04:05 AM
i don't really get any similarities between rose and gwen

Lilith
March 12th, 2008, 05:33 AM
i don't really get any similarities between rose and gwen
from what i've read, it's the wild eyed enthusiasm(sp?)... the way gwen like to charge off on missions, so willing to learn and explore is a lot like Rose's, which i agree on... and then it's the fact that they're both very empathetic to everyone involved in the given situation... that's the part i don't see.... yes Rose had a tendancy to be soft hearted, but it didn't make her fool-hardy... Gwen, on the other hand, let's her emotions and her sense of ethics rule over logic and reason, and in the end makes her a very weak link....

also, Rose was able to accept that it is possible to love more than one person, and that each relationship is different and unique... i mean she had the Doctor, Adam, Mickey, Jack... [( i think i'm missing a few )] whereas Gwen is torn between her love for Jack and her love for Rhys... and in the end she may have chosen Rhys, but she never once considered she could keep them both... it was always an ultimatum for her, whereas Rose was able to not only share her heart with so many men, but also get them to share her equally...

And then there's Ianto who, bless his soul, knows that he may never get all of Jack to himself... he's realised that fact and he's accepted it... and the fact that he was able to that, shows that he is quite mature for his societal moores... he understands that b/c of Jack's immortality, he's not going to get the fairy tale happy ending.. he's contending with not only past lovers, but also future lovers... he knows that Jack will one day leave him, and despite all that, he's willing to try and make this relationship work so that he can truly cherish whatever time he does have with Jack.....

emotionally, i would have to say that Ianto is closer to Rose than Gwen....

rosey_angel
March 12th, 2008, 06:29 AM
from what i've read, it's the wild eyed enthusiasm(sp?)... the way gwen like to charge off on missions, so willing to learn and explore is a lot like Rose's, which i agree on... and then it's the fact that they're both very empathetic to everyone involved in the given situation... that's the part i don't see.... yes Rose had a tendancy to be soft hearted, but it didn't make her fool-hardy... Gwen, on the other hand, let's her emotions and her sense of ethics rule over logic and reason, and in the end makes her a very weak link....


oh ok, i can see that. plus also, now that i think about it, rose joined the doctor coz she was bored and looking for adventure; gwen joined torchwood coz she was bored with her job and wanted to find out what was really going on in the world, so they both started off in the same place.

Willow'sCat
March 12th, 2008, 02:11 PM
For me Gwen is like Rose soley in the sense that tptb want to ship/not ship the female lead with the male lead on both shows.;) They skirt around it, never consummate it, but you know what they are up to... on Torchwood it is a little different; in fact I would go so far as to say tptb treat the Gwen/Jack thing the way other shows treat potential M/M pairings... subtext, some subtle hints but nothing canon. It is nice to see the het relationship being the one that needs to wear (ship) goggles for a change. ;) Although I realise Stargate doesn't really do much with it's relationships either. :rolleyes:

Rose is a much better character in all areas in my opinion then Gwen, I am one of the few who like Gwen (it seems) but I don't think she is anymore ethical then the rest of them on Torchwood... and she gave up any sense (to me) of wonderment or wide eyed optimism the minute she shagged Owen... anyway that is for another thread. ;)

Lilith
March 12th, 2008, 06:54 PM
it's not that she's more ethical, it's just that she can't differentiate when ethics can be applied and when they can't... the only reason why i hate gwen is that she sometimes can't tell the different shades of grey and thinks that everyone needs to be coddled... she's too clingy, and that just gets on my nerves...

and i agree on the (ship) goggles... subtext is great in all forms, but they need to tone it down just a tad... i did like SG did it tho.. i mean you could dohet or slash or both and it not clash at all... what most Janto fans are having trouble with is that the subtext is screwing with their perception of the established relation... some are able to brush it away by saying that Jack is an incorrigable flirt, but the general populace just finds it annoying...

rosey_angel
March 13th, 2008, 03:30 AM
*claps* i totally agree, WC, i love the way this show has changed the norms by having the m/ms in a relationship and the shippy subtext between the m/f.

but sometimes the subtext is so strong it seems that all jack wants is gwen.

Willow'sCat
March 13th, 2008, 04:52 AM
I guess I am yet to be convinced that Jack and Ianto as canon is workable long term; so I am mentally prepared for when it all goes to hell. :);)

Anyway as I have said before I am still waiting for McShep to get a hug on SGA so yeah I am actually willing to celebrate not trash what Torchwood is doing here... you can not please some folks! I would love to see even an AU where Rodney kisses John. Tochwood gave us a kiss, hug, dancing and they are also allowing other characters to acknowledge the relationship (or whatever it is) on the show.

What more do folks want!

CANON is canon, you can't argue with that! :D Stop worrying about it all ending and just enjoy the ride! *whee!* LOL :P:D

Hey no Gwen/Jack shipping in ep 10. ;) Not a lot of Ianto/Jack slashing either but they do have lots of on-screen time together. ;)

rosey_angel
March 13th, 2008, 05:34 AM
yeah, but i don't want it to go to hell lol. i like where they are at the moment; jack's still the dashing hero, saving the day and flirting with the girls but still seems to come home to ianto. ianto for his part still sticks by jack and doesn't push for a more stable or monogomous relationship

phibi
March 13th, 2008, 01:29 PM
have a look at this WONDERFUL video! It almost made me cry *sniff*

http://illiriahrising.livejournal.com/79349.html

huntress
March 13th, 2008, 02:13 PM
So what did you guys all think of "From Out Of The Rain"?

- I loved that this episode was basically Jack and Ianto with exactly the right amount of Gwen (in other words: hanging around in background being quiet).
- I loved it how Jack drove as fast as he could to catch up with Ianto. So sweet.
- I absolutely loved the scenes with only Jack and Ianto researching the citymap. No there weren't any intimacies of any kind but it was so obvious that Jack was utterly comfortable with only Ianto around. How he told him of the days at the travelling circus and sharing his enthusiasm and nostalgic feelings with him. It was all just so intimate.
- God, Ianto is always so emotional but in a good way. When he was devastated that he was only able to save one of the souls and him being on the verge of tears when Jack brought the kid back.... oh Ianto :hugs:


IMHO they did everything right in this episode. I totally enjoyed it.

I didn't even miss that there wasn't any kissing or flirting. The all around feel good atmosphere between Jack and Ianto made me happy enough

phibi
March 13th, 2008, 03:22 PM
So what did you guys all think of "From Out Of The Rain"?

- I loved that this episode was basically Jack and Ianto with exactly the right amount of Gwen (in other words: hanging around in background being quiet).
- I loved it how Jack drove as fast as he could to catch up with Ianto. So sweet.
- I absolutely loved the scenes with only Jack and Ianto researching the citymap. No there weren't any intimacies of any kind but it was so obvious that Jack was utterly comfortable with only Ianto around. How he told him of the days at the travelling circus and sharing his enthusiasm and nostalgic feelings with him. It was all just so intimate.
- God, Ianto is always so emotional but in a good way. When he was devastated that he was only able to save one of the souls and him being on the verge of tears when Jack brought the kid back.... oh Ianto :hugs:


IMHO they did everything right in this episode. I totally enjoyed it.

I didn't even miss that there wasn't any kissing or flirting. The all around feel good atmosphere between Jack and Ianto made me happy enough

jup, I think I agree to everything you said :)

and I loved Ianto's dreamy expression when he listen to Jack telling the story from his past

Lilith
March 13th, 2008, 03:55 PM
So what did you guys all think of "From Out Of The Rain"?

- I loved that this episode was basically Jack and Ianto with exactly the right amount of Gwen (in other words: hanging around in background being quiet).
- I loved it how Jack drove as fast as he could to catch up with Ianto. So sweet.
- I absolutely loved the scenes with only Jack and Ianto researching the citymap. No there weren't any intimacies of any kind but it was so obvious that Jack was utterly comfortable with only Ianto around. How he told him of the days at the travelling circus and sharing his enthusiasm and nostalgic feelings with him. It was all just so intimate.
- God, Ianto is always so emotional but in a good way. When he was devastated that he was only able to save one of the souls and him being on the verge of tears when Jack brought the kid back.... oh Ianto :hugs:


IMHO they did everything right in this episode. I totally enjoyed it.

I didn't even miss that there wasn't any kissing or flirting. The all around feel good atmosphere between Jack and Ianto made me happy enough
haven't watched it yet :p waiting for the vid to load...

Red Phoniex
March 13th, 2008, 04:17 PM
i was eating when gwen said


'is that what they're calling it nowdays'



in 'from out of the rain', wasn't the best idea. throat still hurts and couldn't breathe for several seconds.

phibi
March 13th, 2008, 04:39 PM
i was eating when gwen said


'is that what they're calling it nowdays'



in 'from out of the rain', wasn't the best idea. throat still hurts and couldn't breathe for several seconds.

yeah, you shouldn't eat or drink while watching torchwood *lol*

lonely_angel_42
March 13th, 2008, 05:15 PM
i was eating when gwen said


'is that what they're calling it nowdays'



in 'from out of the rain', wasn't the best idea. throat still hurts and couldn't breathe for several seconds.

That was just so brilliant. I loved that, and I loved the fact that Gwen said it. :)

She didn't bug me at all this ep and there was no weirdness. Maybe it's over now that she's married?

Anyways, it did not surprise me that Ianto was a geek for something like this. But wasn't this ep a bit scary? At least a lil creepy. Heh.

Though would have been more scary if the couple who escaped the film had been all black & white and old film-y. But that might have been like expensive, special fx wise and all. lol. :)

3 ep's. to go and I can't wait for the one where there seems to be some kind of flashback to when Ianto & Jack first met... if the pics and spoilers are anything to go by. Ianto in jeans and stuff. Guh.

Lilith
March 13th, 2008, 05:35 PM
just finished watching FOotR... it makes sense that Ianto would be the one interested in all this b/c he is the archievist, but it was really great to see him alomst take charge... and their chemestry this ep was just amazing! Ianto's love for history coupled with Jack's nostolgia, and then att the end... makes me wanna go find some kid!fics now.... *sigh* those two would such great parents.....

and i'm glad they weren't all touchy/feely this ep... it would have ruined the story... all in all a perfect episode!

lonely_angel_42
March 13th, 2008, 05:38 PM
just finished watching FOotR... it makes sense that Ianto would be the one interested in all this b/c he is the archievist, but it was really great to see him alomst take charge... and their chemestry this ep was just amazing! Ianto's love for history coupled with Jack's nostolgia, and then att the end... makes me wanna go find some kid!fics now.... *sigh* those two would such great parents.....

and i'm glad they weren't all touchy/feely this ep... it would have ruined the story... all in all a perfect episode!

Uhuh. Totally. *Nods*

huntress
March 14th, 2008, 04:57 AM
It is kind of strange. Over in the regular Torchwood Episode thread basically all people complained that the episode was boring, mediocre etc and we all loved it. Is there something wrong with us or are the people in the other thread overly critical?

lonely_angel_42
March 14th, 2008, 10:28 AM
It is kind of strange. Over in the regular Torchwood Episode thread basically all people complained that the episode was boring, mediocre etc and we all loved it. Is there something wrong with us or are the people in the other thread overly critical?

What? Huh? They thought it was boring? Are you kidding me?

Overly critical.

I loved the whole damn thing. It was a very good episode. Sure, maybe it didn't have car chases or a lot of action-film-y stuff, but I thought it was brilliant and a bit scary. :D

Don't worry about it. :)

phibi
March 14th, 2008, 11:17 AM
It is kind of strange. Over in the regular Torchwood Episode thread basically all people complained that the episode was boring, mediocre etc and we all loved it. Is there something wrong with us or are the people in the other thread overly critical?

well, it was a bit boring and had some parts that made no sense and the solution was a bit far-fetched... but I don't really care, there can't always be all perfect episodes. As long as the team is doing something and are on my screen, I'm happy. And when
Jack and Ianto have that amount of screentime together, I'm even happier :)

Willow'sCat
March 14th, 2008, 03:20 PM
Sorry but to me it was boring! :rolleyes:

I can love parts of the ep, the good bits... like the fact it had a lot of Ianto and Jack ;) however the ep was mediocre imho. :P

Lilith
March 14th, 2008, 03:24 PM
i liked it for the simple fact that is was a change of pace... the crisis was urgent and had to be solved immediately, but with a back story... it also touches on the mores of humanity and whether not if the real threat isn't really at home instead of "out there".... the team interaction was also really good.... FOotR and Countrycide are my favourite eps so far b/c of that....

Willow'sCat
March 14th, 2008, 03:31 PM
It was just plainly a badly thought out episode. imho of course. ;)

It will however make the fanvid I am working on better as I now have loads of one on one moments between Ianto and Jack! :p:D

huntress
March 15th, 2008, 02:10 PM
I am also working on a vid and I am thinking about working on it for real when this series is over and we have to wait for the next one. I still have to make clips from the last episode.

My favourite Top Ten Torchwood episodes so far:


1.To The Last Man
2. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
3. Countrycyde
4. Small Wolds
5. Something Borrowed
6. From Out Of The Rain
7. They Keep Killing Suzie
8. Adam
9. Captain Jack Harkness
10. Sleeper

zuz
March 16th, 2008, 10:03 PM
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/ianto_stp.gif HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S DAY! http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/jack_stp.gif

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/janto_stpatrick.gif

phibi
March 19th, 2008, 04:01 PM
OH MY F***ING GOD!!!!!!!!!!!

Adrift

I can't believe this... there really has to be a God!!!! Ok, it wasn't romantic or erotic or whatever cause I laughed my a$$ off!!! I think I missed the next ten minutes of the episode after Gwen caught our boys in action.... I just couldn't stop laughing... that was brilliant.. just brilliant.... the naked hide and seek part did I only get after the episode ended and I watched that scene again... I think I'm in heaven now *giggles*

I'm still not over it... *get another laughing fit* oh please let us have more of that!!

aside from THAT scene... the ep was gwen centred but I thought really intense at the end. I liked it, they played it out to the last. Not like other shows that stop in the middle and don't show the aftermath :)

Loved that ep... *goes back to do frame by frame again*

Allestian
March 19th, 2008, 04:49 PM
(Adrift)

Note to self - must be read with the printscreen button for 'certain' moment.

I thought it was going to be a little subtle kiss...NOT BOTH SHIRTS OFF!!!

THUNK!!!

|D

phibi
March 19th, 2008, 04:53 PM
(Adrift)

Note to self - must be read with the printscreen button for 'certain' moment.

I thought it was going to be a little subtle kiss...NOT BOTH SHIRTS OFF!!!

THUNK!!!

|D

oh, this was FAR from just a little kiss :) the PTB love us! And I love them :D

Allestian
March 19th, 2008, 04:57 PM
Indeed. Indeed!!!

WELL DONE TW!!! MORE OF THE SAME PLEASE!!!

Ianto buttoning up and Jack just stood their casually with his shirt undone.

WOW!!!

It's obviously had an impact on me. It's taking me longer to type normally. My brain's all a scatter.

:P

phibi
March 19th, 2008, 05:22 PM
Indeed. Indeed!!!

WELL DONE TW!!! MORE OF THE SAME PLEASE!!!

Ianto buttoning up and Jack just stood their casually with his shirt undone.


it was brilliant to have jack standing there with open trousers and all...that's just SO jack :) and did you realize he had already shed his shirt again when Ianto came back in :D

Red Phoniex
March 19th, 2008, 06:27 PM
adrift:


OMFG!!!!!!!!

That was BRILLIANT!!!! Laughing so hard, Gwen's face, Ianto being sheepesh, I noticed Jack's shirt as well :P Ianto trying to straighten himself. Complete tongue kiss!!!!!

god! Jack shouting Ianto.....I'm going to have good dreams tonight.

Overall, brilliant ep.

Allestian
March 20th, 2008, 05:14 AM
Showed the ep to my friends at college earlier thanks to the IPlayer...

Got terrified at the 'scene'. Thought I was going to get chased by the technicians.

We've all been nattering on about it for the past hour.

Kind of annoyed our ethics teacher.

:P

huntress
March 20th, 2008, 09:39 AM
Waaayy, way too little Ianto and way too much Gwen in the episode but the scene.....SO HOT :fans herself: I expected a little kiss or something similiar but THIS. Made me speechless and it will be on constant repeat. Also I simply have to make an icon out of it.

rosey_angel
March 21st, 2008, 05:07 AM
*fans self* a friend of mine has been teasing me with janto images from Adrift, cannot belive my self restraint coz i haven't seen it yet!!

lonely_angel_42
March 21st, 2008, 06:47 AM
Yes. I was just watching it and then that and was like OMFG!!

Though I kind of liked the whole them getting their shirts back on and Ianto talking to Gwen and stuff more fun.

He cheats. He always cheats.

Frakking brilliant. Oh, yesh.

I loved it. So, it was a very heartbreaking ep. really, but still great. :D

Lilith
March 21st, 2008, 07:51 AM
OH MY F***ING GOD!!!!!!!!!!!

Adrift

I can't believe this... there really has to be a God!!!! Ok, it wasn't romantic or erotic or whatever cause I laughed my a$$ off!!! I think I missed the next ten minutes of the episode after Gwen caught our boys in action.... I just couldn't stop laughing... that was brilliant.. just brilliant.... the naked hide and seek part did I only get after the episode ended and I watched that scene again... I think I'm in heaven now *giggles*

I'm still not over it... *get another laughing fit* oh please let us have more of that!!

aside from THAT scene... the ep was gwen centred but I thought really intense at the end. I liked it, they played it out to the last. Not like other shows that stop in the middle and don't show the aftermath :)

Loved that ep... *goes back to do frame by frame again*i was expecting it and still almost fell out of my seat when it came on....


adrift:


OMFG!!!!!!!!

That was BRILLIANT!!!! Laughing so hard, Gwen's face, Ianto being sheepesh, I noticed Jack's shirt as well :P Ianto trying to straighten himself. Complete tongue kiss!!!!!

god! Jack shouting Ianto.....I'm going to have good dreams tonight.

Overall, brilliant ep.v good dreams :p


Yes. I was just watching it and then that and was like OMFG!!

Though I kind of liked the whole them getting their shirts back on and Ianto talking to Gwen and stuff more fun.

He cheats. He always cheats.

Frakking brilliant. Oh, yesh.

I loved it. So, it was a very heartbreaking ep. really, but still great. :D
of course he does.... b/c if he didn't, he wouldn't be Jack!

-goes back to rewatch that scene-

lonely_angel_42
March 21st, 2008, 07:57 AM
i was expecting it and still almost fell out of my seat when it came on....

v good dreams :p


of course he does.... b/c if he didn't, he wouldn't be Jack!

-goes back to rewatch that scene-

Haha. True. But how can you cheat at that? I'm very interested in knowing. lol.

I was expecting it as well, but haha.

Brilliant scene. A friend of mine made icons. lmao. One says Caught! Haha.

Lilith
March 21st, 2008, 08:06 AM
Haha. True. But how can you cheat at that? I'm very interested in knowing. lol.

I was expecting it as well, but haha.

Brilliant scene. A friend of mine made icons. lmao. One says Caught! Haha.
share please!!!!

lonely_angel_42
March 21st, 2008, 08:10 AM
share please!!!!

I'd have to ask her first if she wants me to. But if she says okay, I totally will. :D

Lilith
March 21st, 2008, 08:15 AM
I'd have to ask her first if she wants me to. But if she says okay, I totally will. :D
well yea, of course!

lonely_angel_42
March 21st, 2008, 09:20 AM
well yea, of course!

Here we go. :D

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b36/druzilla/thatscene3.gif
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b36/druzilla/thatscene2.gif
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b36/druzilla/thatscene.gif

phibi
March 21st, 2008, 11:12 AM
i was expecting it and still almost fell out of my seat when it came on....

-goes back to rewatch that scene-

the PTB know how to make fans very VERY VERY happy :)

lonely_angel_42
March 21st, 2008, 11:24 AM
the PTB know how to make fans very VERY VERY happy :)

You know I have Icons of THAT scene under the spoiler cut. ;) Just so ya know. lol.

zuz
March 21st, 2008, 12:57 PM
Hmmm. *dreamy look*

Adrift screencaps.
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/jackianto2_ship_herzen.gif

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/2x11/janto-1.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/2x11/janto-2.jpg

lonely_angel_42
March 21st, 2008, 12:59 PM
Heee. :D

Great caps. lol. :)

zuz
March 21st, 2008, 01:13 PM
Heee. :D

Great caps. lol. :)
No kiddin'. ;)

I love the Adrift animations you made, lonely_angel. GREEN for you. :D

Fragments spoilery screencap

I'd love this picture more if there was no blood on Jack's shirt. It's quite unnerving that I can't tell whether the blood is Jack's or Ianto's.


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/2x12/janto-angst.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/manips/jifrag1.jpg

lonely_angel_42
March 21st, 2008, 01:17 PM
lol.

I didn't actually make them. A friend of mine made them, and I asked her if I could show them off here. lmao.

But I'll tell her you liked them. :D

And lovely caps again. When I saw that I was like hee. Didn't notice the blood. Hmm.

phibi
March 21st, 2008, 05:12 PM
You know I have Icons of THAT scene under the spoiler cut. ;) Just so ya know. lol.

thanks, I've already seen them *lol*



Fragments spoilery screencap

I'd love this picture more if there was no blood on Jack's shirt. It's quite unnerving that I can't tell whether the blood is Jack's or Ianto's.

[center]http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/2x12/janto-angst.jpg


now, isn't that just a waistcoat? I was too busy laughing through the Ianto backstory, but I go and check in a minute *lol*


and SQUEEEE

Ianto in casual clothes!!!!! he looks sooo much better in them than in the suit.. IMO :)

zuz
March 21st, 2008, 08:45 PM
Fragments spoilery screencap

I'd love this picture more if there was no blood on Jack's shirt. It's quite unnerving that I can't tell whether the blood is Jack's or Ianto's.


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/screencaps/2x12/janto-angst.jpg




now, isn't that just a waistcoat? I was too busy laughing through the Ianto backstory, but I go and check in a minute *lol*


I've just finished watching the episode. :D (((Phibi))) You were right about the waistcoat.

And I totally loved that scene. In the end you can feel how much Ianto hates the deception, almost crying when leaving the warehouse. *hugs Ianto*

lonely_angel_42
March 21st, 2008, 08:53 PM
I've just finished watching the episode. :D (((Phibi))) You were right about the waistcoat.

And I totally loved that scene. In the end you can feel how much Ianto hates the deception, almost crying when leaving the warehouse. *hugs Ianto*

What ya ma say in the spoilers?

Oh, so true. So true.

And OMG: SO, he's only been there for like 21 months. Which is only short about like 1 month to 2 years. Am I makign sense here?

Anyways, Tosh has been there the longest!! Then there's Owen and then Ianto. Then there's Gwen. Hmm.

I need sleep. Ugh, man.

And the last ep. is like the 4th of April. That is just cruel. Cruel, I tell ya.

phibi
March 22nd, 2008, 01:01 AM
I've just finished watching the episode. :D (((Phibi))) You were right about the waistcoat.

And I totally loved that scene. In the end you can feel how much Ianto hates the deception, almost crying when leaving the warehouse. *hugs Ianto*

oh so true!!
I think he hadn't anticipated to like Jack that much... He saw him as a neccessity and now there is so much more going on! You could see how torn he was between his love for Lisa and the betrayel on Jack.

great acting though! and I liked the fact they incorporated that in the scene!

I think Owen's backstory explained a lot why he is (was?) always so sarcastic and not able to get in a relationship anymore. Really liked that.

Tosh's backstory was a bit extreme... and I thought they would link it with her appearance in Doctor Who, that would have been cool :)



And OMG: SO, he's only been there for like 21 months. Which is only short about like 1 month to 2 years. Am I makign sense here?

Anyways, Tosh has been there the longest!! Then there's Owen and then Ianto. Then there's Gwen. Hmm.

I need sleep. Ugh, man.

And the last ep. is like the 4th of April. That is just cruel. Cruel, I tell ya.

yeah, two weeks till the finale!! that's way too long... but what do we do after that? no more torchwood for who knows how long... *sobs*

zuz
March 22nd, 2008, 01:36 AM
Plus now we can safely say that Myfanwy is a Janto shipper... ;)

... dropping Jack into Ianto's arms like that.

lonely_angel_42
March 22nd, 2008, 05:26 AM
oh so true!!
I think he hadn't anticipated to like Jack that much... He saw him as a neccessity and now there is so much more going on! You could see how torn he was between his love for Lisa and the betrayel on Jack.

great acting though! and I liked the fact they incorporated that in the scene!

I think Owen's backstory explained a lot why he is (was?) always so sarcastic and not able to get in a relationship anymore. Really liked that.

Tosh's backstory was a bit extreme... and I thought they would link it with her appearance in Doctor Who, that would have been cool :)



yeah, two weeks till the finale!! that's way too long... but what do we do after that? no more torchwood for who knows how long... *sobs*

Well, ses. 4 Doctor Who starts like the 5th of April or something. lol. SO, I'll just focus on that. Heh.

phibi
March 22nd, 2008, 07:35 AM
Well, ses. 4 Doctor Who starts like the 5th of April or something. lol. SO, I'll just focus on that. Heh.

oh, it does? *sigh of relief*

lonely_angel_42
March 22nd, 2008, 08:42 AM
oh, it does? *sigh of relief*

Yup. Same here.

*Goes back to try and get dressed for a wedding. Ugh.*

huntress
March 22nd, 2008, 12:32 PM
Just saw Fragements and loved it so much.

Poor Ianto the whole betrayal...yeah he didn't expect to have that reaction to Jack otherwise....Did I squee through that part of the story? You betcha! Ianto in jeans and shirt! Not that I don't love his Armani, Boss and Dolce suits. Really I do but he looks good in casual =) Jack and Ianto? Oh my they connected right away and the way they both looked at each other. NOW we also know how they got their own pet pterodactyl ^_^ 51st century pheromones?! He doesn't hide the fact that he not from around here from Ianto and the others had to find out slowly from little clues! The episode was really rather amusing and made me laugh but it also made it even clearer why the whole Lisa incident was a real betrayal and also why their relationship has never been the paternal kind as with Tosh or Owen. Ianto wasn't hired he approached Jack for a job at Torchwood Cardiff and only got it because he was persistent....and because IMO Jack fell for him (and I think Ianto also for Jack) right from the first moment they saw each other :huggles Jack and Ianto: Can we please have a REAL Ianto episode in the third series, Mr. Russell? Please?

Allestian
March 22nd, 2008, 12:59 PM
Just seen fragments:

First and only rant - no-one got hurt apart from Tosh and Owen walked out without a scratch!?!?

Sorry.

Anywho.

IANTO IN JEANS AND JACKET AND THE NECKLACE DOWN ON THE PLASS!!!

*Coughs*

Pterodactyl moment and the chocolate - lmao at the chocolate...and the whole landing on Ianto thing and...

:D

Aaaahhh...glad I found it.

phibi
March 22nd, 2008, 01:40 PM
Yup. Same here.

*Goes back to try and get dressed for a wedding. Ugh.*

I saw the promo today :) looks goooood! John wasn't in it but

Rose and Martha :) And David Tennant looked really cute :)

and it came across like a promo for the new action show on bbc 1 *lol*


Just saw Fragements and loved it so much.

Poor Ianto the whole betrayal...yeah he didn't expect to have that reaction to Jack otherwise....Did I squee through that part of the story? You betcha! Ianto in jeans and shirt! Not that I don't love his Armani, Boss and Dolce suits. Really I do but he looks good in casual =) Jack and Ianto? Oh my they connected right away and the way they both looked at each other. NOW we also know how they got their own pet pterodactyl ^_^ 51st century pheromones?! He doesn't hide the fact that he not from around here from Ianto and the others had to find out slowly from little clues! The episode was really rather amusing and made me laugh but it also made it even clearer why the whole Lisa incident was a real betrayal and also why their relationship has never been the paternal kind as with Tosh or Owen. Ianto wasn't hired he approached Jack for a job at Torchwood Cardiff and only got it because he was persistent....and because IMO Jack fell for him (and I think Ianto also for Jack) right from the first moment they saw each other :huggles Jack and Ianto: Can we please have a REAL Ianto episode in the third series, Mr. Russell? Please?

about the 51st century bit... I thought EXACTLY the same! I let it pass the first second and then went... huh?? Did he just tell Ianto from where/when he comes??


Just seen fragments:

First and only rant - no-one got hurt apart from Tosh and Owen walked out without a scratch!?!?

Sorry.

Anywho.

IANTO IN JEANS AND JACKET AND THE NECKLACE DOWN ON THE PLASS!!!

*Coughs*

Pterodactyl moment and the chocolate - lmao at the chocolate...and the whole landing on Ianto thing and...

:D

Aaaahhh...glad I found it.

yeah, everyone walk away without so much as a scratch bothered me as well... ok Jack died, but that doesn't really matters, does it? *lol* but Ianto stood just as close to the bomb as Jack did... well, I think superheroes don't die in explosions *lol*

Willow'sCat
March 22nd, 2008, 11:19 PM
Fragment *spoilers* about the 51st century bit... I thought EXACTLY the same! I let it pass the first second and then went... huh?? Did he just tell Ianto from where/when he comes??I put that down to Ianto having worked at Torchwood 1, which we already knew because of Lisa (Cyberwomen) Ianto worked in research, no doubt he has come across Jack's name more than once. Jack also did his own research on Ianto, he no doubt also jumped to the same conclusion... Ianto knew about Torchwood Cardiff, ergo he must know about Jack.;)
Ianto in Fragments was brilliant, my only complaint is that there wasn't enough of him (and Jack). :D

As for Adrift... well what is there to say NEKKID! Jack/Ianto doing it! Totally made of win! :D

*shrugs*

Did anything else happen in the episode?

Didn't think so. :p

phibi
March 23rd, 2008, 01:03 AM
I put that down to Ianto having worked at Torchwood 1, which we already knew because of Lisa (Cyberwomen) Ianto worked in research, no doubt he has come across Jack's name more than once. Jack also did his own research on Ianto, he no doubt also jumped to the same conclusion... Ianto knew about Torchwood Cardiff, ergo he must know about Jack.;)

fair point :) but the other could have done the same research, but they don't know...


Ianto in Fragments was brilliant, my only complaint is that there wasn't enough of him (and Jack). :D

there is always something *lol* But I'm glad

the Ianto bit was the funny one :) Not to speak of wet!Jack in his flashback...


As for Adrift... well what is there to say NEKKID! Jack/Ianto doing it! Totally made of win! :D

*shrugs*

Did anything else happen in the episode?

Didn't think so. :p

not that I can remember *snort*

lonely_angel_42
March 23rd, 2008, 04:31 AM
I was a bit annoyed that yes, none of them were that badly injured. Like seriously, how do you figure that out?

But it was awesome. :D

Willow'sCat
March 23rd, 2008, 05:14 AM
I was a bit annoyed that yes, none of them were that badly injured. Like seriously, how do you figure that out?I know! It was like... Capt John used the weakest bombs on Earth 'cause all of them were practically standing on top of the bombs when they went off! :S Only Jack appears to have died... but he doesn't count! lol :P


But it was awesome. :DI have so much love for both "Adrift" & "Fragments". Not just Ianto/Jack kinda love either. :D I can't believe we are almost at the end of the series. :(

Some pics *spoilers* for Adrift & Fragments.



http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/Torchwood/Jack2.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/Torchwood/Jack3.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/Torchwood/Ianto2.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/Torchwood/JackIanto7.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/Torchwood/JackIanto8.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/Torchwood/vlcsnap-455996.png

Allestian
March 23rd, 2008, 06:34 AM
Maybe the entire team is more immortal than we thought...

Hmm...

One word - lots of hype - COFFEE!!!

:P

zuz
March 23rd, 2008, 11:24 AM
Vid rec

Break My Fall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWh1VQqpOiI) by Mirien.
Song: Break My Fall by Breaking Benjamin. Spoilers up to 2x12.
Not your average Janto vid. No mushy song. The lyrics fits the pairing perfectly. Lots of action esp at the beginning. Great editing, a few interesting effects (I esp loved the coloring of some of the clips). And emo!Ianto at the end... This vid is made of win. ;)

huntress
March 23rd, 2008, 02:21 PM
It is pretty good but she overdid it with the effects IMO. Since I am a vidder myself I am a bit hard to please and IMO this video would have been great with less effects. It looks overloaded to me. One of my favourite Torchwood vids is a series one vid and also a general vid but well done.

Hole - Dying by Cherry (http://cherryice.imeem.com/video/bTvM303K/tw_dying/)

zuz
March 23rd, 2008, 03:04 PM
It is pretty good but she overdid it with the effects IMO. Since I am a vidder myself I am a bit hard to please and IMO this video would have been great with less effects. It looks overloaded to me. One of my favourite Torchwood vids is a series one vid and also a general vid but well done.

Hole - Dying by Cherry (http://cherryice.imeem.com/video/bTvM303K/tw_dying/)
I agree with you that there may be too many effects. But I absolutely adore the coloring (have no idea how it was done though) and the fact it's not mushy and more action-like which is almost a rarity nowadays (I normally like romantic vids but I guess I'm not in the right mood for them today ;)).

As for the vid you recommended, there were sequences I loved esp in the second half of the vid. But there were moments I felt like there was too much going on on the screen, too much to take in at once. I guess, this is one of those vids that gets better after rewatching, gives you a chance to enjoy the details that escaped your notice the first time round. Nice song, never heard it before. Overall, I liked it a lot. :)

Do you have more recs to share? And what about your very own vids, any TW ones? http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/cptnjack_please-1.gif

lonely_angel_42
March 23rd, 2008, 03:23 PM
I know! It was like... Capt John used the weakest bombs on Earth 'cause all of them were practically standing on top of the bombs when they went off! :S Only Jack appears to have died... but he doesn't count! lol :P

I have so much love for both "Adrift" & "Fragments". Not just Ianto/Jack kinda love either. :D I can't believe we are almost at the end of the series. :(

Some pics *spoilers* for Adrift & Fragments.



http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/Torchwood/Jack2.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/Torchwood/Jack3.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/Torchwood/Ianto2.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/Torchwood/JackIanto7.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/Torchwood/JackIanto8.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/ironicfox/Torchwood/vlcsnap-455996.png



Totally the weakest bombs on earth. lmao. But maybe it was a special bomb because John needs their help. Why kill the people you want to help you? lmao.

Yesh. *Sigh* It's gone by so fast. :( But it's been goooodddd. :D


Vid rec

Break My Fall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWh1VQqpOiI) by Mirien.
Song: Break My Fall by Breaking Benjamin. Spoilers up to 2x12.
Not your average Janto vid. No mushy song. The lyrics fits the pairing perfectly. Lots of action esp at the beginning. Great editing, a few interesting effects (I esp loved the coloring of some of the clips). And emo!Ianto at the end... This vid is made of win. ;)

I LOVE this vid. Totally awesome. :D

phibi
March 23rd, 2008, 03:34 PM
Vid rec

Break My Fall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWh1VQqpOiI) by Mirien.
Song: Break My Fall by Breaking Benjamin. Spoilers up to 2x12.
Not your average Janto vid. No mushy song. The lyrics fits the pairing perfectly. Lots of action esp at the beginning. Great editing, a few interesting effects (I esp loved the coloring of some of the clips). And emo!Ianto at the end... This vid is made of win. ;)

you beat me to it *lol* I watched it this afternoon and was going to rec it now :) I really like it!

lonely_angel_42
March 23rd, 2008, 03:39 PM
I got it from LJ and was like Woah. :D

huntress
March 23rd, 2008, 05:51 PM
Vid reccing......only one more.

Set The Fire To The Third Bar vid by se (http://scattered.imeem.com/video/d6lIvcaj/tw_set_the_fire_to_the_third_bar/)

Also only series one and a bit dark....as if the other one was a light one o_O

lonely_angel_42
March 23rd, 2008, 05:58 PM
Vid reccing......only one more.

Set The Fire To The Third Bar vid by se (http://scattered.imeem.com/video/d6lIvcaj/tw_set_the_fire_to_the_third_bar/)

Also only series one and a bit dark....as if the other one was a light one o_O

Oooh. That is a good one. Very nice.

Willow'sCat
March 23rd, 2008, 06:07 PM
It is pretty good but she overdid it with the effects IMO. Since I am a vidder myself I am a bit hard to please and IMO this video would have been great with less effects. It looks overloaded to me.
Well as a vidder myself... oh yeah :cool: I loved Mirien's vid, I see nothing wrong with going all out once and a while with the transitions and effects, often guilty of it myself! :P Plus the song rocks! :D

huntress
March 23rd, 2008, 06:18 PM
I agree with you that there may be too many effects. But I absolutely adore the coloring (have no idea how it was done though) and the fact it's not mushy and more action-like which is almost a rarity nowadays (I normally like romantic vids but I guess I'm not in the right mood for them today ;)).

As for the vid you recommended, there were sequences I loved esp in the second half of the vid. But there were moments I felt like there was too much going on on the screen, too much to take in at once. I guess, this is one of those vids that gets better after rewatching, gives you a chance to enjoy the details that escaped your notice the first time round. Nice song, never heard it before. Overall, I liked it a lot. :)

Do you have more recs to share? And what about your very own vids, any TW ones? http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/smilies/torchwood/cptnjack_please-1.gif

I am working on TW vid but it will take a while. I have reached a certain level were I am not easily pleased anymore with my vids and it takes a while until I am finished. Last year I only did one or two.

I don't know what you mean by colouring. I saw only the use of the desaturation filter. From all I could tell she also used Sony Vegas (I love that prog - easier to use then Premiere and never froze on me) and I couldn't see any use of After Effects on it o_O

You don't know Hole? Hole was the band of Courtney Love.

I haven't done any DW or TW vids yet but lots of other stuff. Most of them are availble there but not all. The newest ones there are BSG, House and my Harry Potter GoF trailer.

http://www.geocities.com/buffysweetsurender/music.html

Regarding my newest one, the one I worked on last year - you are in luck. Thanks to a vidder friend who was also fed up with YouTube, I found a different site and I just uploaded the vid today for a friend of mine.

http://www.vimeo.com/817131

password: greghouse

huntress
March 23rd, 2008, 06:21 PM
Well as a vidder myself... oh yeah :cool: I loved Mirien's vid, I see nothing wrong with going all out once and a while with the transitions and effects, often guilty of it myself! :P Plus the song rocks! :D

I am a bit old fashioned there. I enjoy great editing but there are vids out there were people really seem to use every transition effect, filtre and what not in one video, this plus fast cutting just puts me off. I guess I regard transitions, effects and filtres like good parfume or spices. Used sparingly they can enhance, use too much and it is spoiled.

lonely_angel_42
March 23rd, 2008, 06:25 PM
I am a bit old fashioned there. I enjoy great editing but there are vids out there were people really seem to use every transition effect, filtre and what not in one video, this plus fast cutting just puts me off. I guess I regard transitions, effects and filtres like good parfume or spices. Used sparingly they can enhance, use too much and it is spoiled.

I think it just fits the mood of the song, myself.

I wouldn't work with everything but with this song I do think it's justified. :)

Willow'sCat
March 23rd, 2008, 06:40 PM
I am a bit old fashioned there. I enjoy great editing but there are vids out there were people really seem to use every transition effect, filtre and what not in one video, this plus fast cutting just puts me off. I guess I regard transitions, effects and filtres like good parfume or spices. Used sparingly they can enhance, use too much and it is spoiled.Well I guess it all comes down to personal taste. Also experience, I have no idea how long or for what reasons this person vids. Could just be for fun, like me... fun not artistic expression or to join some cliche just good old fashion fun! :D

You say you only make one or two vids a year, sounds like the "fun" has gone out of it for you. Like I said people vid for all kinds of reasons I personally prefer the fun reasons. Also it comes through in a vid if the maker had fun with it, they are often the most enjoyable vids IMHO.

huntress
March 23rd, 2008, 06:45 PM
Well I guess it all comes down to personal taste. Also experience, I have no idea how long or for what reasons this person vids. Could just be for fun, like me... fun not artistic expression or to join some cliche just good old fashion fun! :D

You say you only make one or two vids a year, sounds like the "fun" has gone out of it for you. Like I said people vid for all kinds of reasons I personally prefer the fun reasons. Also it comes through in a vid if the maker had fun with it, they are often the most enjoyable vids IMHO.

Naah it is still fun and mostly satisfaction but similiar to my pics I've become a perfectionist and I am seldom happy with my own results. It takes a while until I can personally say - yeah ...like that. I exchange a clip here, an effect there and sometimes I throw a whole project overboard when I can see that it is not heading in the right direction.

zuz
March 23rd, 2008, 11:45 PM
I don't know what you mean by colouring. I saw only the use of the desaturation filter. From all I could tell she also used Sony Vegas (I love that prog - easier to use then Premiere and never froze on me) and I couldn't see any use of After Effects on it o_O Hmmm, it might be my monitor but it looks to me that some of the clips have unusualy bright colours and an interesting tint to them, almost like when you make icons in PS and use filters and selective coloring.

EDIT: Checked the original episodes, they look "normal" to me. Can't be the monitor then. Funny.




I haven't done any DW or TW vids yet but lots of other stuff. Most of them are availble there but not all. The newest ones there are BSG, House and my Harry Potter GoF trailer.

http://www.geocities.com/buffysweetsurender/music.html

Regarding my newest one, the one I worked on last year - you are in luck. Thanks to a vidder friend who was also fed up with YouTube, I found a different site and I just uploaded the vid today for a friend of mine.

http://www.vimeo.com/817131

Intriguing vid.
It was easy to follow and made me courious about these two guys. And that's a success considering you showed your House vid to someone who watched total of one episode of the show. (so canon-wise I know who Dr. House is and that's about it) :)



I haven't done any DW or TW vids yet but lots of other stuff. Most of them are availble there but not all. The newest ones there are BSG, House and my Harry Potter GoF trailer.

http://www.geocities.com/buffysweetsurender/music.html

Bookedmarked for later. I'm looking forward esp to BSG and CSI vids. :)

zuz
March 24th, 2008, 04:17 AM
I looked for Jack and Ianto season 2 promo pics and haven't found any. So I combined and touched up one of Jack&Martha and Ianto, Tosh&Owen from the Beebs site. Gotta love Photoshop. :D


http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/manips/janto-promomanip.jpg

This one I made some time ago:
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r295/z_bicikova/torchwood/promos/jackianto.jpg

Red Phoniex
March 24th, 2008, 06:27 AM
I looked for Jack and Ianto season 2 promo pic and haven't found one. So I combined and touched up one of Jack&Martha and Ianto, Tosh&Owen from the Beebs site. Gotta love Photoshop. :D



those are brilliant. tried to green you but can't.

lonely_angel_42
March 24th, 2008, 06:43 AM
Oooh. Those are brilliant. :D I love them. :)

rosey_angel
March 24th, 2008, 07:31 AM
saw adrift today

i loved 'that' scene between jack and ianto. it was nice to look at, but a nice piece of simple life the boys get to indulge in every so often. plus, i love the idea of naken hide and seek. "he cheats. he always cheats"

it also interests me that ianto knew about the riftugees on the island but no one else did. how did ianto find out about it?

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l182/faithful_deception/TW_2_Adrift/normal_TW-screencap211_041.jpg

huntress
March 24th, 2008, 08:11 AM
Hmmm, it might be my monitor but it looks to me that some of the clips have unusualy bright colours and an interesting tint to them, almost like when you make icons in PS and use filters and selective coloring.

EDIT: Checked the original episodes, they look "normal" to me. Can't be the monitor then. Funny.


Intriguing vid.
It was easy to follow and made me courious about these two guys. And that's a success considering you showed your House vid to someone who watched total of one episode of the show. (so canon-wise I know who Dr. House is and that's about it) :)


Bookedmarked for later. I'm looking forward esp to BSG and CSI vids. :)

I am curious what you think of them. The CSI ones were done with Premiere but my comp was not up to the program and constantly froze on me. Now I have enough juice and space but I am so used to Vegas now.

You only saw one episode of House? Oh wow. Never got into it, did you? Too bad. House/Wilson is wonderful...okay Jack/Ianto are impossible to beat but House/Wilson have their own thing going and I am especially happy since it is basically canon now since the last two episodes - let's see how brave American primetime television is going to be and go all the nine yards or back out earlier ;)

zuz
March 24th, 2008, 01:42 PM
I am curious what you think of them. The CSI ones were done with Premiere but my comp was not up to the program and constantly froze on me. Now I have enough juice and space but I am so used to Vegas now.

I watched CSI, Enterprise, BSG and House ones so far. You did a great job with all of them. I probably liked the Grissom/Lady Heather vid the most, followed closely and quite surprisingly by House/Wilson.

Regarding Grissom/Lady Heather vid I liked the song and the overall dream-like atmosphere. Plus great use of voiceovers. As for the House one, now I'm really really curious about the two. So are they a couple or not?

The rest of the vids was very good, too. They all had a trailer-like quality to them, fast paced and very well edited IMO. I like how you matched the clips with the music. Great job. :)

I'm looking forward to your Torchwood vid. As I loved all the shippy stuff you made I hope you'll choose Janto as a theme. ;)