The Tau'ri and Genocide

[Archaeis]

In the past, the SGC has been against any kind of genocidal act when it comes to fighting their enemies. They wouldn't use the symbiote poison on the Goauld and are even reluctant to use the Wraith retrovirus as a weapon. So why are they all of a sudden into the who act of genocide with their enemies? They "presumably" wiped out the entire Ori race, they destroyed the replicators, and the asurans all without a single thought.

Thoughts on the change of heart? Is it just because these beings were not "like" us, as in organic and worldly beings? Or are just just becoming more willing to wipe out entire races?

[talyn2k1]

In the past, the SGC has been against any kind of genocidal act when it comes to fighting their enemies. They wouldn't use the symbiote poison on the Goauld and are even reluctant to use the Wraith retrovirus as a weapon. So why are they all of a sudden into the who act of genocide with their enemies? They "presumably" wiped out the entire Ori race, they destroyed the replicators, and the asurans all without a single thought.

Thoughts on the change of heart? Is it just because these beings were not "like" us, as in organic and worldly beings? Or are just just becoming more willing to wipe out entire races?

The reason they didn't want to use the symbiote poison was because it also killed Jaffa who were just slaves to the Goa'uld. That kind of collateral damage was unacceptable.
They didn't want to use the Wraith Retrovirus because they were turning them into humans who would just be fed on.

Wiping out the Ori was really the only choice we had. Conventional weapons are useless against them. Hermiod did suggest that Merlin's weapon only cancelled them out, rather than destroying them. Although after that the weapon was always considered to be one that would destroy rather than neutralize them. I doubt we'll ever truly know what effect it had.

The Replicators and Asurans are different as they are technological mistakes. The bug Replicators are not sentient beings, whether or not the human-form Replicators or the Asurans were sentient is debatable. One could say that they were merely acting as programmed.

[Opener]

There's also the small issue of every single member of the Asuran race wanting to kill us and every human they can get their hands on. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until we are dead.

[kymeric]

Its just a sign of how much more of a threat the ori and the asurans were, and that the only means of attack was an all or nothing kind of atk. And amusingly in both of these examples there were survivors

Spoiler:

weirs replicators and adria

Technically its not a complete genocide till there killed too

[jhkplaya888]

didnt

Spoiler:

adria die? when the ancient attacked her

[kefke20]

Watt about the wairht the only to win the war agenst them is by genocide

Ore gif thodd asgard cloning tech so his faction dos not need to feed on humans and clone new warriors fast and they can wipe out the rest

[Dark Soul]

Watt about the wairht the only to win the war agenst them is by genocide

Ore gif thodd asgard cloning tech so his faction dos not need to feed on humans and clone new warriors fast and they can wipe out the rest

^Huh??^ do you not speak English? Also there is a new technology (not really new) called spell check. My computer checks everything I type to see if I spell it right.


What is wrong with wiping out entire races that are threats to us? Do you know another way to make them stop fighting us? The Ori wanted us to worship them and the replicators wanted to destroy us because they thought the ancients made a mistake when they made us? Am I right?

[kefke20]

^Huh??^ do you not speak English? Also there is a new technology (not really new) called spell check. My computer checks everything I type to see if I spell it right.

no I don’t I’m Dutch and spell check does not always work if you are dyslectic

What is wrong with wiping out entire races that are threats to us? Do you know another way to make them stop fighting us? The Ori wanted us to worship them and the replicators wanted to destroy us because they thought the ancients made a mistake when they made us? Am I right?

ask Hitler

[TDgamer]

ask Hitler

Hitler was different. Our situation is kill or be killed. Therefore, in my opinion, Genocide is the only way.

[s09119]

Hitler was different. Our situation is kill or be killed. Therefore, in my opinion, Genocide is the only way.

Exactly. Hitler massacred people because he felt Germans were superior to them and deserved to rule the Earth; we'd have to destroy the Wraith because they are (to steal an Ender's Game term) varelse, meaning we can never co-exist due to reasons beyond the control of either side (their having to feed on us).

[TDgamer]

Exactly. Hitler massacred people because he felt Germans were superior to them and deserved to rule the Earth; we'd have to destroy the Wraith because they are (to steal an Ender's Game term) varelse, meaning we can never co-exist due to reasons beyond the control of either side (their having to feed on us).

Thank you, and as soon as I can figure out how, you will get green for the Ender's Game reference.

[s09119]

Thank you, and as soon as I can figure out how, you will get green for the Ender's Game reference.

You give green by going to the person's post and clicking the scales up near the report button.

And I take it you've read the series? (I should've said "Xenocide" or "Speaker for the Dead"... but Ender's Game came to mind first haha)

[TDgamer]

You give green by going to the person's post and clicking the scales up near the report button.

And I take it you've read the series? (I should've said "Xenocide" or "Speaker for the Dead"... but Ender's Game came to mind first haha)

I have only read those three, but sooner or later I will read the rest.

[Crazy Tom]

finaly some Ender fans!
yes, there is a section on this at atomic rocket, but i can't remember offt he top of my head.

[Archaeis]

Well, the Asgard were not willing to use genocidal means, even with the Goauld.

I wonder if we might be a little more willing to use those extreme measures now because we no longer have any of the elder races watching over our shoulder. The asgard are gone, the nox have vanished, and the tokra and JAffa are kind of fading out now.