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jdog
January 8th, 2008, 07:20 PM
Ok follow me....

If you take the weir we know and love and add nannites does she change fundamentally?

IF she does...then

If we take a clone of weir and remove the nanites who is more the weir we know.

The weir who changed or the clone who is the same?

Emme
January 8th, 2008, 07:55 PM
Ok follow me....

If you take the weir we know and love and add nannites does she change fundamentally?

IF she does...then

If we take a clone of weir and remove the nanites who is more the weir we know.

The weir who changed or the clone who is the same?

I think it depends on who is more the Weir we know physically or psychologically. If the clone had the essence of what makes Weir Weir then the clone. Unless the nannites didn't fundamentally change her then Weir would be Weir and not the cloned Weir. Weird no?

Ruined_puzzle
January 9th, 2008, 11:42 AM
Dude.

marty2006
January 9th, 2008, 01:19 PM
Dude.

lmao, a fitting answer

Ltcolshepjumper
January 10th, 2008, 03:51 PM
Ok follow me....

If you take the weir we know and love and add nannites does she change fundamentally?

IF she does...then

If we take a clone of weir and remove the nanites who is more the weir we know.

The weir who changed or the clone who is the same?

Well, either way, the real Weir is always wanted (for me). However, I would like for her to still have that original Weir personality at least suppressed by the nanites, so that she is still our Weir inside. While the clone would be more like her, she wouldn't be Weir.

gopher65
January 10th, 2008, 07:18 PM
*shrugs* I don't understand this "a clone isn't a real person" line of reasoning, either on TV or in real life. As long as their personality is intact, then the clone is the same person. If their personality isn't intact, then it is a new person with similar memories. If their mind is totally wiped then the clone is just an identical twin sister/brother, cause identical twins are just a naturally occurring type of clone. Same DNA=clone.

Emme
January 10th, 2008, 09:35 PM
I know what you mean. What makes a person a person is it how they are made or what they are made of? If a man and a woman have a baby the old fashioned way and make a human form flesh and blood replicator and let them grow why is one a person and the other not? Could it have to do with experiencing esperiences rather than inheriting them.

How about this. you copy a computer file and put it in another computer why is one better than the other?

Hamburgers for thought :lol:

jdog
January 11th, 2008, 07:32 PM
my brain just poped.

Emme
January 12th, 2008, 06:22 PM
my brain just poped.

That had to hurt. :lol:

IlluZen
January 13th, 2008, 06:41 AM
Maybe the nanite Weir will still have the fundamental qualities and 'essence' of Weir, but new priorities. Instead of thinking of the Atlantis expedition and Earth as 'her' people, she thinks of the crew of her replicator ship as 'her' people. That would still be Weir, just one that no longer agrees with us or our best interests.

GATE FOOL
January 24th, 2008, 01:21 PM
BRING BACK DR.WEIR

The show isn't the same with Carter in charge
Carter's cool, but not as leader of ATLANTIS.


WEIR can fill those shoes like no one else can.

GO WEIR

GATE FOOL
January 24th, 2008, 01:26 PM
I believe that a person is made up of their memories and their life experiences. A clone of weir may remember everything that Weir remembered and if the nanites did not change the original weir than there would be no reason for anyone to believe that she is not the true weir. The clone could never be treated as anyone but weir even though she isn't weir.

In all I believe that if a clone has weir's memories and life experinces than she is truely just like the real weir.

methosivanhoe
January 24th, 2008, 01:27 PM
ummm... can we just have the real weir back please...

M

GATE FOOL
January 24th, 2008, 01:29 PM
Maybe the nanite Weir will still have the fundamental qualities and 'essence' of Weir, but new priorities. Instead of thinking of the Atlantis expedition and Earth as 'her' people, she thinks of the crew of her replicator ship as 'her' people. That would still be Weir, just one that no longer agrees with us or our best interests.

I agree she is still the same Wier we know, but she just has different people that she is a part of and she would now go along with how the replicaters are, but still stand up for what she believes in.