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Anubis21
January 6th, 2008, 11:07 PM
Does anyboy really believe that there will be a third movie? I mean that there are some people that have seen the movie and said it totally blowed. The fact that there is only 30,000 people who may know about it through this web site MGM is probably looking to the fact that all the fans of the series which was over 2.5 milllion so that MGM makes a profit. There has been no advertising on TV yet so the chances of a third movie are sinking.
(WHAT DO YOU THINK?)

jenks
January 6th, 2008, 11:20 PM
The third movie has already been pitched, the chances of us getting one are extremely high. Only 30,000 people knowing about the movie? Don't be ridiculous, the season box sets sell like hot cakes, and the movies are aimed at the same market. Why would there have been any advertising on TV, the first movie won't be released for another 2 months! MGM have already done their homework, according to Rob Cooper their sales projections predict that bar some freak intervention the movies will sell, and sell well. I think the chances of us not getting a third movie are slim.

Platschu
January 7th, 2008, 12:06 AM
I hope we will get 4th and 5th movie too, but the AoT has to be successful and the strike should end at least until May to get the third movie in this year. :o

talyn2k1
January 7th, 2008, 03:50 AM
Does anyboy really believe that there will be a third movie? I mean that there are some people that have seen the movie and said it totally blowed. The fact that there is only 30,000 people who may know about it through this web site MGM is probably looking to the fact that all the fans of the series which was over 2.5 milllion so that MGM makes a profit. There has been no advertising on TV yet so the chances of a third movie are sinking.
(WHAT DO YOU THINK?)

From the reviews I've read, for every one person who hated it there are twenty people who loved it! This is a good ratio no matter who you are.

I think MGM/Skiffy see SG-1 direct-to-DVD movies as a cash cow just waiting to be milked. If their projections are anywhere near accurate, I'm certain there will atleast be a third movie and probably more beyond that.

MediaSavant
January 7th, 2008, 05:02 AM
There has been no advertising on TV yet so the chances of a third movie are sinking.


That the doesn't mean anything. The release date isn't until March 11th. They probably won't start advertising it until a few weeks before that.

Ladyinred
January 7th, 2008, 08:51 AM
That the doesn't mean anything. The release date isn't until March 11th. They probably won't start advertising it until a few weeks before that.

I think they're advertising it already, Rob Cooper was talking about AoT trailers being included in FOX's another DVD releases. He also mentioned showing trailers in theaters. TV and press advertising campaign would be great idea, too.

Vala_M
January 7th, 2008, 10:00 AM
The third movie has already been pitched, the chances of us getting one are extremely high. Only 30,000 people knowing about the movie? Don't be ridiculous, the season box sets sell like hot cakes, and the movies are aimed at the same market. Why would there have been any advertising on TV, the first movie won't be released for another 2 months! MGM have already done their homework, according to Rob Cooper their sales projections predict that bar some freak intervention the movies will sell, and sell well. I think the chances of us not getting a third movie are slim.

Really? Where was that announced at? I hope it gets OK'd!

Vala,

kymeric
January 7th, 2008, 10:08 AM
The only thing thatll kill these dvd movies is when the actors loose interest and start dropping out one by one. Otherwise theyre a good monetary investment for the studio, pads their franchise, fairly inexpensive to produce, and is a proven product and production staff. For each sg1 movie they churn out they save soo much over the run of the mill crap dvd they get pitched by nobodies.

Serebii
January 7th, 2008, 11:01 AM
The only thing thatll kill these dvd movies is when the actors loose interest and start dropping out one by one. Otherwise theyre a good monetary investment for the studio, pads their franchise, fairly inexpensive to produce, and is a proven product and production staff. For each sg1 movie they churn out they save soo much over the run of the mill crap dvd they get pitched by nobodies.
That and the WGA strike as Rob Cooper & Brad Wright are members of it

Anubis21
January 7th, 2008, 11:49 AM
well if you are right about everthing that eventually there will be advertising in the future and that there will be hopwfully more than just two or three movie and that there wll be more. BUT until we see the result i will continue to have my doubts about getting my hopes up.

jenks
January 7th, 2008, 02:06 PM
Really? Where was that announced at? I hope it gets OK'd!

Vala,

http://stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/?p=1035

There isn't much information, but it sounds as if MGM are interested, but can't move forward because of the writers strike.

Anubis21
January 7th, 2008, 04:49 PM
Acording to what i have heard and read that the previous writers strike lasted 5 months and this one is supose to be double that so by the time Continuum is released the strike should be over. I hope you are right.

-PITBULL-
January 7th, 2008, 04:51 PM
Will seeing that the first two movies not even being out yet , There is no way to see how the movie sales are going to do ... If the first two Movies sale good like they want , then yes i could see a 3rd movie coming out ...

At the same time I could see MGM making a new show of STARGATE instead , Taking the money that they make from the movies to make a new series for STARGATE .

Anubis21
January 7th, 2008, 04:54 PM
Wait are you talking about a fouth series along with the third the cooper and wright have planned for sci fi channel

Fenrir Foxz
January 7th, 2008, 06:31 PM
Acording to what i have heard and read that the previous writers strike lasted 5 months and this one is supose to be double that so by the time Continuum is released the strike should be over. I hope you are right.

I hope that's right aswell...
IMO if the strike does last that long though the 3rd film could be set back as late as 2009 when they'll start filming it...

the fifth man
January 7th, 2008, 07:10 PM
I am very confident, that at some point, we will at least get a third movie. I'm hoping for more than that, but I'll worry about that one first.

Amalthea
January 7th, 2008, 07:29 PM
I don't think it would hurt to cross our fingers for a third movie Jonas-style just in case, though. :jonas:

Stargater34
January 7th, 2008, 07:33 PM
I am very confident, that at some point, we will at least get a third movie. I'm hoping for more than that, but I'll worry about that one first.
I am confident about a third movie too.

Anubis21
January 7th, 2008, 07:36 PM
I am sure that everyone that has an account to this website, seen all ten seasons along with Atlantis, and just vist's this web page would want to see more than two movies and that the show continue to go as long as Atlantis keeps going and when Stargate Universe is finally airing; on the other hand, there is alot of obstacles to consider the writers stike is the main one, but it is going to be up to the sales of the movies to see what happens. In the end it is all about POPULARITY and MONEY.

Vala_M
January 7th, 2008, 08:17 PM
http://stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/?p=1035

There isn't much information, but it sounds as if MGM are interested, but can't move forward because of the writers strike.


That and the WGA strike as Rob Cooper & Brad Wright are members of it

I don't mean to offend anyone but why can't they have Joe Mallozzi write the 3rd movie then? He's written for SG-1 many times and personally, I love his writing work for both shows.

Vala,

jenks
January 7th, 2008, 08:22 PM
They could I suppose, but he's probably too busy being show runner and writing for Atlantis.

Anubis21
January 7th, 2008, 08:50 PM
Joseph Malozzi is an excellent writter since Cooper worte the first movie and Wright is writting the second movie it is possible that another director could do the next movie if offered.

gilthoniel
January 7th, 2008, 09:25 PM
I don't mean to offend anyone but why can't they have Joe Mallozzi write the 3rd movie then? He's written for SG-1 many times and personally, I love his writing work for both shows.

But with the SAG actors also likely to go out by June even if Mallozzi or one of the other Canadians wrote it they wouldn't have any one to act in it - Browder, Shanks, Judge, Beau Bridges and RDA are all SAG members and possibly even Claudia Black as she is currently based and working in LA. Can't really see Carter and Chevron guy carrying a movie on their own...

-PITBULL-
January 7th, 2008, 11:44 PM
Wait are you talking about a fouth series along with the third the cooper and wright have planned for sci fi channel

No im talking about the one they are planning for the SciFi Series . MGM and SciFi have not talked out a deal , They have not casted any actors or anything as well . So see that there really isn't anything going on with this 3rd series . MGM could take they money from the first two movies and run with it and go ahead with the 3rd series over a 3rd movie .

Anubis21
January 8th, 2008, 05:28 AM
what makes you think that all of the actors are not interested in making more SG-1 movies? What makes you think they are going to quit?

Promethius30
January 8th, 2008, 08:02 AM
Joseph Malozzi is an excellent writter since Cooper worte the first movie and Wright is writting the second movie it is possible that another director could do the next movie if offered.

i think peter deluise would good for director the 3rd movie

Egle01
January 8th, 2008, 08:21 AM
As much as I hope to see lots and lots of SG-1 movies, I hope it all will end before going completely down. Just like S10. It wasn't the best season, but I enjoyed it. I have high hopes for "AoT" and "Continuum". I'd like to know 3rd movie's idea.

silkie
January 8th, 2008, 08:24 AM
I hope we will get 4th and 5th movie too, but the AoT has to be successful and the strike should end at least until May to get the third movie in this year. :o

I think the movie will be shot in 2009 and be available in December for Christmas or 2010. (this strike will probably last well into the summer)...

Mister Oragahn
January 8th, 2008, 09:37 AM
I hope we will get 4th and 5th movie too, but the AoT has to be successful and the strike should end at least until May to get the third movie in this year. :o

It probably will. It sucks big times, but it's still going to work. Like some ollywood crap.
But if it's to get more underwhelming ends, deus ex machinas and time travel twists... *yawn*.
Next plot: alternate dimension. Because we all love them. :rolleyes:

I wonder why they can't simply make a sort of stand alone episode, but with some movie budget.

I remember that some of my favorite Trek movies have little to do with the overall series' plot. In fact, two movies were their own arc.

Jackie
January 8th, 2008, 10:01 AM
direct to dvd is one of the most profitable ways to get a movie out. Doesn't even matter if the movie sucks--it's highly profitable. The manufacturing cost of the disk are pennies a piece.

There has been a continuing trend for over a decade in the US and other countries abroad. The movie theater has been losing customers to DVD sales.

No matter how much I or you may or may not like AoT, with the media revolution we are currently in, I would expect to not only see a 3rd movie but also more to follow that one.

Fans love sequels...always have. So, I would also expect to not only see SG-1 continue in DVD movies but also see SGA take that same route.

I would not be a bit surprised if talks between MGM and Skiffy fell through for the next show--Universe--and that ends up as a DVD series as well.

DVD's are just profitable. How many posters here have complete box sets of a tv show you have seen broadcast? Probably a good 80 percent and that's conservative IMO. TPTB will making money with DVD's and box sets for rest of their lives--MGM will be turning a profit from the Stargate Franchise for decades.

No question about it--even if the movies suck royally, they will sell and make a profit!

Vala_M
January 8th, 2008, 10:46 AM
I don't mean to ask a stupid question here but why can't the US writers quit the American union and join the Canadian one to write?

Vala,

Fenrir Foxz
January 8th, 2008, 11:19 AM
I don't mean to ask a stupid question here but why can't the US writers quit the American union and join the Canadian one to write?

Vala,

Good question...
*I have a feeling that it's not so easy to quit a union, especially in the middle of a strike... not to mention the writers (in question) probably want the strike concluded before getting back to work*

jenks
January 8th, 2008, 01:14 PM
No im talking about the one they are planning for the SciFi Series . MGM and SciFi have not talked out a deal , They have not casted any actors or anything as well . So see that there really isn't anything going on with this 3rd series . MGM could take they money from the first two movies and run with it and go ahead with the 3rd series over a 3rd movie .

As far as we know, SciFi have nothing to do with the development of the third series.

Ladyinred
January 8th, 2008, 01:19 PM
I don't mean to offend anyone but why can't they have Joe Mallozzi write the 3rd movie then? He's written for SG-1 many times and personally, I love his writing work for both shows.

Vala,

Martin Gero would be much better choice.

VSS
January 8th, 2008, 02:01 PM
I don't mean to ask a stupid question here but why can't the US writers quit the American union and join the Canadian one to write?

Vala,

Wouldn't they have to move there?

But, anyway, most writers don't make a hell of a lot of money. Already there are emergency loans being made to some members. Not everyone is an Anthony Zuicker (He was a valet attendant who made up CSI while working at a hotel- the rest is history.). I do pity them but I don't think the strike will go on all that long. The studios have the money, and that is an unfortunate fact. There are a few big names like Anthony who could hold out but most of them can't.

-PITBULL-
January 8th, 2008, 03:19 PM
As far as we know, SciFi have nothing to do with the development of the third series.

As far as i know , any MOVIE or TV Series of STARGATE SG-1 that MGM gives the go head on will be aired on SciFi . Something about the deal they did with STARGATE SG-1 and the SciFi network wont let the name of STARGATE SG-1 be aired on TV throw any other next work in the US .

Yes they could go head and make the Direct to DVD Movie , but without AIRING on TV Some non fans wouldn't know about the MOVIE . So there is lost profit that MGM would make if people like NON fans went out to buy the DVD After seeing it on TV ...

Fan base would make them a small profit , but nothing big for them to want to make a 4 or 5 after that .. So with out AIR time on TV , witch you know SciFi will play the heck out of the movies once they start airing on TV . MGM might not make the money they are looking for ..

-PITBULL-
January 8th, 2008, 03:22 PM
I don't mean to ask a stupid question here but why can't the US writers quit the American union and join the Canadian one to write?

Vala,

You really don't want the writers to walk out of there strike like that , It would make them look bad as well as it would make it harder for them to ever get working the US again ...

Not just that i do see why there striking . Its a smart movie on the writers to strike right now , Yeah we as the watchers get screwed cause we get nothing to watch on TV , but in the long run the writers will take more pride in there work if they get what they need to make a living ..

jenks
January 8th, 2008, 03:35 PM
As far as i know , any MOVIE or TV Series of STARGATE SG-1 that MGM gives the go head on will be aired on SciFi . Something about the deal they did with STARGATE SG-1 and the SciFi network wont let the name of STARGATE SG-1 be aired on TV throw any other next work in the US .

Yes they could go head and make the Direct to DVD Movie , but without AIRING on TV Some non fans wouldn't know about the MOVIE . So there is lost profit that MGM would make if people like NON fans went out to buy the DVD After seeing it on TV ...

Fan base would make them a small profit , but nothing big for them to want to make a 4 or 5 after that .. So with out AIR time on TV , witch you know SciFi will play the heck out of the movies once they start airing on TV . MGM might not make the money they are looking for ..

The only thing that uses the Stargate SG-1 name is Stargate SG-1, the movies don't and neither will the new series. Other than airing SG-1 and Atlantis, SciFi have no rights regarding the Stargate franchise.

morjana
January 8th, 2008, 03:53 PM
Does anyboy really believe that there will be a third movie? I mean that there are some people that have seen the movie and said it totally blowed. The fact that there is only 30,000 people who may know about it through this web site MGM is probably looking to the fact that all the fans of the series which was over 2.5 milllion so that MGM makes a profit. There has been no advertising on TV yet so the chances of a third movie are sinking.
(WHAT DO YOU THINK?)

I think the odds for a SIXTH movie are HIGH!

Morjana

Anubis21
January 8th, 2008, 04:17 PM
wow a sixth movie you do think ahead. where did anybody here about cooper offering up a third or a fourth i only know about the second?

the fifth man
January 8th, 2008, 05:30 PM
No matter how much I or you may or may not like AoT, with the media revolution we are currently in, I would expect to not only see a 3rd movie but also more to follow that one.

Fans love sequels...always have. So, I would also expect to not only see SG-1 continue in DVD movies but also see SGA take that same route.

I would not be a bit surprised if talks between MGM and Skiffy fell through for the next show--Universe--and that ends up as a DVD series as well.

DVD's are just profitable. How many posters here have complete box sets of a tv show you have seen broadcast? Probably a good 80 percent and that's conservative IMO. TPTB will making money with DVD's and box sets for rest of their lives--MGM will be turning a profit from the Stargate Franchise for decades.

No question about it--even if the movies suck royally, they will sell and make a profit!

Well, I am one of those fans who is definitely hoping for more SG-1 movies. I would love to see this part of the Stargate Franchise continue on in movie form for quite some time to come.:)

Vala_M
January 8th, 2008, 06:58 PM
You really don't want the writers to walk out of there strike like that , It would make them look bad as well as it would make it harder for them to ever get working the US again ...

Not just that i do see why there striking . Its a smart movie on the writers to strike right now , Yeah we as the watchers get screwed cause we get nothing to watch on TV , but in the long run the writers will take more pride in there work if they get what they need to make a living ..

I see what you mean but how does a writer make money while on strike? Especially since it's expected to last for so long if not longer.

Vala,

-PITBULL-
January 8th, 2008, 07:57 PM
I see what you mean but how does a writer make money while on strike? Especially since it's expected to last for so long if not longer.

Vala,

Right now some of them aren't making any money at this point , But there has been some news that the writers that are on strike might start working on writing for VIDEO GAME , and there is talks that there might be a deal in works that would let the Writers still could write for MOVIES ...

I know that i read yesterday that the movie industry or there union is working something out to make it where the writers get what they want . Meaning that writers can keep on working and making the movies so this summer will still get the big block busters that we are use too .

As for the video game industry , well there writers don't have a union . So this means that any writer can move to doing video game writing . Witch is good the the gamers , We might get games that are worth playing again .

So in the long run the ones that are going to hurt is going to be the TV shows that we all love . HEROES wont be back tell this is over , BSG wont come back as well . The one the is safe is STARGATE and shows that where scripted before the strike started ...

Ripple in Space
January 8th, 2008, 09:18 PM
The only thing thatll kill these dvd movies is when the actors loose interest and start dropping out one by one. Otherwise theyre a good monetary investment for the studio, pads their franchise, fairly inexpensive to produce, and is a proven product and production staff. For each sg1 movie they churn out they save soo much over the run of the mill crap dvd they get pitched by nobodies.

Dropping out? "Continuum" is the first incarnation of the franchise in 3 YEARS that has the entire REAL cast of SG-1!

Lol, but seriously, I agree with you. I think when Michael Shanks drops out the movies will (and should) stop.

I also agree with the OP as far as advertising goes. While I'm sure the movie will outsell his projections by several times, I do know that some fans of the franchise didn't/don't realize that these films are even real...

Anubis21
January 8th, 2008, 09:57 PM
Ok you are all talking about the actors of SG-1 quitting the show where did you hear this is something like this going to happen soon. Are the actors going to leave the series somebody write something. That video save SG-1 is concerning and what does it mean?

Ladyinred
January 8th, 2008, 10:17 PM
Dropping out? "Continuum" is the first incarnation of the franchise in 3 YEARS that has the entire REAL cast of SG-1!


Hey, Ben Browder, Claudia Black and Beau Bridges are as REAL cast of SG-1 as anybody else before them!!!!

Platschu
January 8th, 2008, 10:18 PM
What if they say, if you pre-order the third movie for 30 $, than 5 $ will be given to the movie and the fans will get automatically the DVD. So if we can get 1 million order around the globe (USA, UK, Germany, France and Canada), than they will have 5 million budget for the new movie and MGM doesn't risk anything, but they will have a nice profit from the last 25 $. I know this won't happen, but if they want to find out something new, than this could be a new way to support the franchise. They could plan easily their DVD movie, because they will know how many will be sold for sure. The fans couldn't decide what will the movie tell, because it would be similar to a pig in poke. ;)

Anubis21
January 8th, 2008, 10:30 PM
if they would hold something like the pre order funding the movie theni would be down for that. it would all depend if the movie had all of the cast of SG-1 and that no one could have quit during the movie.

jenks
January 8th, 2008, 10:53 PM
What if they say, if you pre-order the third movie for 30 $, than 5 $ will be given to the movie and the fans will get automatically the DVD. So if we can get 1 million order around the globe (USA. UK, Germany, France, England and Canada fans together), than they will have 5 million budget for the new movie and MGM doesn't risk anything, but they will have a nice profit from the last 25 $. I know this won't happen, but if they want to find out something new, than this could be a new way to support the franchise. They could plan easily their DVD movie, because they will know how many will be sold for sure. The fans couldn't decide what will the movie tell, because it would be similar to a pig in poke. ;)

Hmmm...

Platschu
January 8th, 2008, 11:09 PM
Oops. Sorry. I edited. ;)

Duckey
January 10th, 2008, 07:46 PM
Well, simple math says that if 350,000 people buy the movie at $20, they will have made back the 7 million spent on the movie itself. Not a whole lot when you think about it.

-PITBULL-
January 10th, 2008, 09:22 PM
Well, simple math says that if 350,000 people buy the movie at $20, they will have made back the 7 million spent on the movie itself. Not a whole lot when you think about it.

But you forget about people renting the movie , as well as Downloadable movies .

Downloadable movies at this point doesn't make allot of money , but what ever they make off of it is good . Even a few thousand Downloads is good .

Blockbusters , and other stories will need a big supply of the movies for at least the first week . at least for them to make sure they have it in stock . Witch would mean at the least 15 to 20 of them to even some place up to 50 .

Then you have the got to have people , Those are the people that are at the store ever tuesday to buy what ever new movie that comes out .

In all i could see MGM sale in the first week alone , a good 500 thousand to 1 million of . Then you have the SciFi premier showing of it , witch should get the movie a little more popular and would sale a few thousand at the point . Then they also market for future sales , with means that they put some money aside for future time to bring out more later on . but that time they could make a pretty good profit off the movie .

marty2006
January 11th, 2008, 04:56 AM
Yes. End of.

Vala_M
January 11th, 2008, 06:02 AM
Scifi would never show the movie since they didn't pay for it and probably don't care about it, not to mention the merciless editing that the movie would be put through if it ever aired on TV.

Vala,

jenks
January 11th, 2008, 06:07 AM
Well, simple math says that if 350,000 people buy the movie at $20, they will have made back the 7 million spent on the movie itself. Not a whole lot when you think about it.

Hmmm, maybe if the movie was free to produce and distribute :rolleyes:

umopapisdn
January 11th, 2008, 06:31 AM
Hmmm, maybe if the movie was free to produce and distribute :rolleyes:
In a perfect world without capitolism. Maybe we should convert Bill Gates to a massive stargate fan so he pays for loads more movies to be made.