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from_orion
November 14th, 2007, 05:08 AM
I would love to see a movie made that takes place thousands of years ago, spanning from when the First One, James Earl Jones:) and the others of that type, find Earth through the stargate or with ships, and begin the use of humans as hosts. It would then cover the transplanting and creation of civilizations of human slaves throughout the galaxy. In my mind the logical end of this movie is the uprising on Earth that makes Ra leave. This part of the movie, to stay true with the Moebius Pt1&2 episodes of season 8, would have SG-1 and the Egyptian locals participating.
Anyone with me here???

Pharaoh Hamenthotep
November 14th, 2007, 05:14 AM
So you want a movie about what happened in the original Stargate movie when Ra first came to Earth and what we've already seen in Moebius? What would be the point?

If you're going to do a prequel then make one about the alliance of four great races.

immhotep
November 14th, 2007, 05:42 AM
Surgested that one :D

from_orion
November 14th, 2007, 05:43 AM
So you want a movie about what happened in the original Stargate movie when Ra first came to Earth and what we've already seen in Moebius? What would be the point?

If you're going to do a prequel then make one about the alliance of four great races.
Well obviously we did not see how Ra came to earth in any detail, nor did we see how Ra was forced to leave. So I believe there would be a point.

Pharaoh Hamenthotep
November 14th, 2007, 05:52 AM
But we know he came to Earth and took humans to Abydos and we know that he was forced to leave. The story might not have been told in detail but it has already been told.

from_orion
November 14th, 2007, 05:54 AM
But we know he came to Earth and took humans to Abydos and we know that he was forced to leave. The story might not have been told in detail but it has already been told.
As I originally said, that would only be the end of the movie. 90% of it would be about the first goa'uld influences on Earth, which I belive was not Ra.

kirmit
November 14th, 2007, 06:09 AM
As I originally said, that would only be the end of the movie. 90% of it would be about the first goa'uld influences on Earth, which I belive was not Ra.

It was Ra, he was the one that found Earth, so the first influences would''ve been from him.

from_orion
November 14th, 2007, 06:15 AM
It was Ra, he was the one that found Earth, so the first influences would''ve been from him.
If it really was Ra, and he was the most powerful system lord, how did he allow so many of "his" transplanted humans to fall into the hands of his rivals? Maybe others took humans from earth with ships after Ra was forced to leave.

kirmit
November 14th, 2007, 06:20 AM
If it really was Ra, and he was the most powerful system lord, how did he allow so many of "his" transplanted humans to fall into the hands of his rivals? Maybe others took humans from earth with ships after Ra was forced to leave.

Maybe they did after Ra left so then they wouldn't be the first influences would they? :P. Ra also spread the Earth people amongst the stars, making a few selected into Jaffa, it's easier for the goa'uld to steal humans when they are much more spread out. Also take into consideration the goa'uld weren't a warring race like they are now, they were a dying race who were likely united in finding a solution.

Pharaoh Hamenthotep
November 14th, 2007, 06:25 AM
If it really was Ra, and he was the most powerful system lord, how did he allow so many of "his" transplanted humans to fall into the hands of his rivals? Maybe others took humans from earth with ships after Ra was forced to leave.
We know that other Goa'uld took Humans from Earth because of the many Earth-based cultures SG-1 have encountered on other worlds from periods both before and after the Stargate was buried!

from_orion
November 14th, 2007, 07:06 AM
We know that other Goa'uld took Humans from Earth because of the many Earth-based cultures SG-1 have encountered on other worlds from periods both before and after the Stargate was buried!
Since the original movie was a different writer with a completely different idea of the stargate universe, no "facts" from the original movie are nesesarily true to the canon of the tv show. Therefore, since it has never been mentioned on SG-1, Ra may not have been the first goa'uld to visit earth. It may have been socar or anubis or some other much older goa'uld tha ra. I do not claim to know, I only believe that in the context of SG-1 canon, it is unknown.

Pharaoh Hamenthotep
November 14th, 2007, 07:09 AM
From Season 1: The Enemy Within:


TEAL'C: There is a tale of a primitive world the Goa'uld discovered millenia ago. The Tau'ri. The First World where forms of this type first evolved. It is said the Goa'uld harvested among the primitives, some became Goa'uld hosts, others became jaffa, the rest were taken as slaves and seeded among the stars to serve them. But that world has been lost for centuries.

KENNEDY: Teal'c, beings of this form evolved here on Earth.

TEAL'C: This world..?

O'NEILL: Is the world you're talking about Teal'c. Ra came here. If our ancestors hadn't rebelled and buried the Stargate…

ARMS
November 14th, 2007, 07:12 AM
So you want a movie about what happened in the original Stargate movie when Ra first came to Earth and what we've already seen in Moebius? What would be the point?

If you're going to do a prequel then make one about the alliance of four great races.
2nd

from_orion
November 14th, 2007, 07:14 AM
From Season 1: The Enemy Within:
Do you think Teal'c would be so vague about it if it was Apophis' brother that definetly discovered Earth? If Teal'c had said that Ra discovered the human race it would be more believeable than O'Neill mentioning that "Ra came here", which doesn't prove he was the first.

Pharaoh Hamenthotep
November 14th, 2007, 07:18 AM
Its been said in the movie and the series that Ra discovered Earth. So unless you have some evidence that proves otherwise, you're just going to have to accept it as canon.

from_orion
November 14th, 2007, 07:22 AM
Its been said in the movie and the series that Ra discovered Earth. So unless you have some evidence that proves otherwise, you're just going to have to accept it as canon.
Nothing from the movie can be considered SG-1 canon. For example, Ra being from a dying race. Nothing in the show has even hinted this to be true. Nothing from the show has proved or even stated that Ra was the first goa'uld to visit earth. So I will not accept guesses as canon. We do not know!!!

Randy_Watson
November 14th, 2007, 07:41 AM
How about just a non-scifi movie of Jack in the Gulf! They'd have to dye his hair of course.

Wraith_Boy
November 14th, 2007, 07:44 AM
I would love to see a movie made that takes place thousands of years ago, spanning from when the First One, James Earl Jones:) and the others of that type, find Earth through the stargate or with ships, and begin the use of humans as hosts. It would then cover the transplanting and creation of civilizations of human slaves throughout the galaxy. In my mind the logical end of this movie is the uprising on Earth that makes Ra leave. This part of the movie, to stay true with the Moebius Pt1&2 episodes of season 8, would have SG-1 and the Egyptian locals participating.
Anyone with me here???

Don't think a bunch of advanced aliens coming to Earth on ships & enslaving primitive humans with their spears would be worth wasting millions of dollars on making. The original movie kinda showed it already, as well as we know how it all ends thanks to 'Moebius'.

If they have to do one, it should be about tying up loose stories from SG-1. Such as the Aschen, Re'tu, 'Grace aliens', 'Foothold aliens', 'Crystal Skull aliens' etc, etc. Since the show will never be back on the air again, then it's smarter to tie up loose stories from the show that have been left open.

One about the alliance would be cool, but it would simply cost too much. I don't think it'd sell too well if they brought puppets, humans with straw in their hair, regular humans & whatever the Furlings are. Probably humans with hair or reptile skin on them or whatever. Then have them sit about & talk for 90mins. SG-1 is about aliens, fights, explosions etc. So they could do a big story of how the alliance all broke up. With the Furlings being the bad guys. However to do all that properly, I think the budget would go crazy & far too much for what MGM would be willing to pay.

So tying up loose ends from SG-1's time would be better & more realistic imo!

from_orion
November 14th, 2007, 07:48 AM
How about just a non-scifi movie of Jack in the Gulf! They'd have to dye his hair of course.
RDA wouldn't even have to be cast in the film, they could just peice together a bunch of macgyver clips... lol

Randy_Watson
November 14th, 2007, 07:55 AM
RDA wouldn't even have to be cast in the film, they could just peice together a bunch of macgyver clips... lol

There you go! With that, and flashbacks from SG-1 we would be in business.

I've always hoped some intrepid young chap would try to splice together clips from SG-1 to remake the original movie to make it fit better. But that would be a lot of work and probably be terrible.