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GateWorld
November 12th, 2007, 07:05 PM
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Following the explosion over New York City, Peter and Niki are both brought into the care of the Company. Peter meets a man named Adam, who convinces him that he has become the Company's prisoner. Disaster strikes when Maya's ability manifests during her brother's wedding celebration.

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Phenix
November 12th, 2007, 07:11 PM
Talk about a filler episode. There was nothing that we have not talked about on this forum. I guess we can say that it was original to make Nikki have another personality but really we all know DL dies. He dies because of Nikki. I figured that she would have at least killed him.

At least Elle is a hottie.

And how far does the Haitian project? You'd think that Peter could have flown away with Adam.

ShadowMaat
November 12th, 2007, 07:12 PM
It's a shame this wasn't the season premiere because things in sequence make SO much more sense than haphazardly skipping around introducing stories halfway through. :rolleyes:

Good introductory stuff, nice to FINALLY have a clue WTF is going on. It'll be interesting to see how much they can do in the three eps they have left.

jds1982
November 12th, 2007, 08:23 PM
It's a shame this wasn't the season premiere because things in sequence make SO much more sense than haphazardly skipping around introducing stories halfway through. :rolleyes:

Good introductory stuff, nice to FINALLY have a clue WTF is going on. It'll be interesting to see how much they can do in the three eps they have left.

Agreed. Stupid strike, just give the writers whatever the hell they want so I can have more Heroes.

Iguana775
November 12th, 2007, 08:31 PM
Talk about a filler episode. There was nothing that we have not talked about on this forum. I guess we can say that it was original to make Nikki have another personality but really we all know DL dies. He dies because of Nikki. I figured that she would have at least killed him.

At least Elle is a hottie.

And how far does the Haitian project? You'd think that Peter could have flown away with Adam.

Filler is right. like someone else said, it should have been the season premire.

I'm starting to think Adam is good afterall and just wanted to not hide anymore so they locked him up. it will be interesting to see if him and Hiro meet up again.

you know, I wonder if Bob isnt the one that's the bad guy. He certainly thinks he knows what's the best for everyone.

Crappy way for DL to die.

Archaeis
November 12th, 2007, 08:43 PM
I thought that it was a decent episode. Not sure whether Bob or Adam is supposed to be the more trustworthy at this point. I found it odd that Peter didn't mention anything about already having a healing ability or about Claire when he was talking to Adam about his powers.

jds1982
November 12th, 2007, 08:45 PM
Crappy way for DL to die.

Indeed I'm surprised Niki didn't rip him apart.

ShadowMaat
November 12th, 2007, 08:54 PM
I'm starting to think Adam is good afterall and just wanted to not hide anymore so they locked him up. it will be interesting to see if him and Hiro meet up again.
I dunno, I'm still betting that (pure speculation here, but tagged anyway) Adam killed Hiro's father. The timing would be about right and it'd fit with Kensei swearing to destroy everything Hiro loves. Might also be interesting if he was the one to set Sylar on... was it Charlie? That's probably stretching things TOO far, but it'd still be intersting. *sigh*

I think the only reason he said he wanted to save the world was because he knew that would be the best way to get at Peter- that and saving Nathan. I don't like Bob or his motives, but I think he does have good reason to keep Adam locked up and I think it's significant that some commercial somewhere mentioned that Maya's power was the only one who could stop a certain bad guy- and what's worse than a bad guy who can't die?

In a way, though, it may be true: it could be that Adam's blood is the only thing that will be able to stop the plague... unless now it's the Cheerleader's turn to save the world. LOL! That's a nice bit of looping, too.

I know Kring admitted that he screwed things up, but that really doesn't do us a lot of good, especially now that the back half of the season has been aborted. *sigh* Maybe when it's over it'll be better to rewatch the season starting with this ep. I hate it when TPTB try to get cutesy with the criss-crossing timelines. It worked okay last season, but they shouldn't have pushed their luck by trying it again this season.

Jonas
November 12th, 2007, 09:03 PM
This episode wasn't too bad, but I agree that it should have been the season premiere. Crappy way for DL to die. I though that maybe Nikki killed him based on the TV Guide cover, which I guess she did, but indirectly. Anyone else mad that they didn't have Matt or Sylar in it? I really wanted to see Matt find out about Janice and how he ended up living with Mohinder and Molly. Also we still don't know what happened to Sylar and why he doesn't have his powers anymore. I thought this episode was suppose to answer all these questions of how everyone got where they were at the beginning this year?

ShadowMaat
November 12th, 2007, 09:11 PM
It only makes sense to tell a few stories at a time. If EVERY character was in EVERY ep, nothing would get done and folks would be confused as hell trying to sort it all out. ;)

Archaeis
November 12th, 2007, 09:45 PM
It only makes sense to tell a few stories at a time. If EVERY character was in EVERY ep, nothing would get done and folks would be confused as hell trying to sort it all out. ;)


Unless Mohinder gathered a bunch of them up in New York and formed a superhero team: The S-Men.

Trek_Girl42
November 12th, 2007, 10:49 PM
I agree that it should have been done in order as well- this certainly explained a lot of things that we should have been told weeks ago. Ah well, hopefully everything progresses a little smoother from here. The ep was pretty disjointed, as many of them have been this season, but it gave us enough explanation that it worked. Though I don't think we needed that Maya/Alejandro section- that could easily have been done in much shorter flashbacks in another episode, because those bits really felt like they didn't fit in here at all. I just wanted to see what happened to the characters who were at Kirby Plaza- wish we had some more on Sylar.

nekoi
November 12th, 2007, 10:49 PM
This episode didn't do much for me, other than bringing back Elle... sure she's annoying, but she deffinately made it worth watching since practically nothing happened.

If you're going to fill in plot holes, please put a string of progressive plot into it... one episode that answers ALL of the questions from the first 7 episodes just ruins EVERYTHING.

I'd also like to make a point that DL's death was pathetic and rather quick. Despite his noble act sometime before his death, it was still rather lame and disrespectful to his character, I felt.

This episode was filled with the plots I really don't care about (minus the one about Molly/Mohinder/Matt), and really gave off a rushed impression. It really does feel like they're ending the season off early by not allowing their plots to move out as they did in the first season.

After an awesome episode last week, this was just a disapointment.

Franklyn Blaze
November 12th, 2007, 10:57 PM
I sorta liked this episode, but ya it should be the season opener. Adam doesn't totally seem like a good guy to me. But I was always looking forward to his story in the episode wondering when they would get back to it. I know there will be a twist, some century old revenge thing with Hiro I'm sure. When is Maya going to get out of that car for funks sake?! Killing D.L. off like that was kind of sad, after all they went through he gets gun'd down in an L.A. nightclub. :confused:
Hopefully there will be some meaty stuff next week to chew on.

Night Marshal
November 13th, 2007, 07:46 AM
I personally have no problem coming into a story half way in. It means that you don have spend 5 eps here's me getting my powers here's me doing something i shouldn't with them heres me sitting in the company jail for four with crazy lighting chick. That said this should have been soon but only in the sense that we should have reached this point with the show 3 eps ago and just trimmed the fat.

Also is it just me but does anyone else feel like maiya is a square peg in the round hole of the show at this point i just don't see where her storyline is going that is anything other than syler eating her brain or eating her brothers brain. because maiya and her brother have a very yin yang thing going on. In my view the most ideal out come there is some how syler get maiya power as he get stuck at the mercy of her brother but since that don't speak the same launge that would also get old quick. I wish they would have just given syler his death last year and been done with him he's cool but villains that don't die get stale fast.


best hopes going forward is that there are still forces out there that we don't know about that are causing the troubles

ShadowMaat
November 13th, 2007, 08:00 AM
I suppose if they'd introduced Adam in this ep, it'd kind of spoil the surprise of his genetics when Hiro meets up with him, but on the other hand, he'd come across as much more likely to be a good guy and people probably wouldn't have suspected anything until he made that threat to Hiro, THEN they'd wonder if his agenda is as altruistic as he claims.

Which reminds me, I had a bizarre dream last night (during one of the three hours I managed to sleep) where someone was explaining to Hiro that the Princess was his however-many-times-great grandmother (which caused him a rather awkward moment; nothing weirder than finding out you were lusting after your ancestor) and that she was brutally slain by a stranger who left a message that, it turns out, makes perfect sense to Hiro: Kensei has (had?) begun his campaign of destroying all that Hiro holds dear.

Wish I could remember more detail, but the fact that I was able to dream at all is kind of amazing. *sigh*

The Signal
November 13th, 2007, 09:30 AM
Didn't like this episode. The stories were all potentially interesting, but it fell apart in the execution.

Adam and Peter: Could have been great, but the build up just went on and on with next to no payoff at the end.

Niki and D.L.: Again, could have been interesting, but wasn't. The only highlight was D.L. as a fireman, good man for becoming a true hero, but again the execution could have been better.

Maya and Alejandro: The bit in the teaser on its own would have been far better without the follow up.

Nathan's recovery: Too many blind spots, what happened to Heidi in the end, did I miss something?

I would have prefered this if they'd cut the stories down into the bits that were needed, get the story flowing, and filled the time with the 4 months of HRG, Matt and Mohinder, which wouldn't have taken that much time.

Ace
November 13th, 2007, 10:52 AM
This episode was good... nice to finally be in the know as to what is happening with the plot. I'm still hoping that Adam is a good guy, though I'm sure he's not, I'm hoping that at least he can be saved.

I certainly liked him better as Kensei and a "hero" at that... but as far as story goes I guess this is the most logical step. It's too bad that they have to wrap it all up in 3 episodes.

It's sad to think that it will be such a long time until new episodes are aired... they haven't even been written yet along filmed and produced. It will takes months to start producing new episodes as soon as they actually start writing them again. :(

Ace

s09119
November 13th, 2007, 11:48 AM
Okay, I'll be the rebel and disagree. I absoluelte loved this episode, despite the fact that it should have come earlier or been the season premiere.

I liekd seeing how Adam and Peter met, how Adam slowly turned him into his tool, and then finally used him to bust out.

The only real dissapointment for me was Maya/Alejandro. We really already knew all of that, so it didn't do much for me at all. Oh well, though... at least we got to see Elle live out her wild kinky fantasies on Pete ;)

Xicer
November 13th, 2007, 12:08 PM
I liked the episode too, lot of great moments, but I do agree that it just reinforced a lot of stuff we already knew. I understand the idea to start the season months after the season finale in order to make things more interesting, but in this case it seems to have backfired. Ah well, at least things are semi back to normal, and I love Peter finally having his memories back. The Nikki shooting DL thing was a bit...strange. I mean it was obvious she was gonna kill him but I just thought it was executed a bit weird.

s09119
November 13th, 2007, 12:45 PM
I liked the episode too, lot of great moments, but I do agree that it just reinforced a lot of stuff we already knew. I understand the idea to start the season months after the season finale in order to make things more interesting, but in this case it seems to have backfired. Ah well, at least things are semi back to normal, and I love Peter finally having his memories back. The Nikki shooting DL thing was a bit...strange. I mean it was obvious she was gonna kill him but I just thought it was executed a bit weird.

Niki didn't shoto DL, that drugged-up guy in Vegas did (or was it LA...).

Xicer
November 13th, 2007, 01:23 PM
Ah I see, I got really confused since it all happened so fast. I thought it was the guy at first but wasn't all that sure.

Morrolan
November 13th, 2007, 01:36 PM
He could have phased. I mean he avoided the sucker punch, which was much faster than the pulling of the gun and the shooting.

ShadowMaat
November 13th, 2007, 02:08 PM
He could have phased. I mean he avoided the sucker punch, which was much faster than the pulling of the gun and the shooting.

I wondered about that. My guess is he was dumb enough to think the guy wouldn't try anything and didn't phase automatically. *sigh* It was a stupid and pointless death and while I understand that the world is full of such things I still felt DL deserved better. I LOVED him as a fireman, and given some of the looks his fellows were shooting at him I think it might have been interesting to see how that worked out.

Phenix
November 13th, 2007, 02:22 PM
I wondered about that. My guess is he was dumb enough to think the guy wouldn't try anything and didn't phase automatically. *sigh* It was a stupid and pointless death and while I understand that the world is full of such things I still felt DL deserved better. I LOVED him as a fireman, and given some of the looks his fellows were shooting at him I think it might have been interesting to see how that worked out.

Its funny how an ex-con can get a job as a fire fighter. There are rules against that. And when did all that get cleared up? Last time I checked he was being chased by the cops.

retiredat44
November 13th, 2007, 03:31 PM
Its funny how an ex-con can get a job as a fire fighter. There are rules against that. And when did all that get cleared up? Last time I checked he was being chased by the cops.

yeah, artistic license if one thing but that was total BS!

LoneStar1836
November 13th, 2007, 03:34 PM
Its funny how an ex-con can get a job as a fire fighter. There are rules against that. And when did all that get cleared up? Last time I checked he was being chased by the cops.That got resolved when Nikki turned herself in to the police and confessed to the murders and DL returned the 2 million to Linderman. So I assume DL's record was cleared.



I thought the episode was okay. Not all that I had hoped for.

I mostly liked this episode for the Nathan bits. I still think he should have died, but how they revealed it conveys that he intended to sacrifice himself in order to save Peter. (I just remember some people speculating that maybe he flew Peter up and then flew off. Glad it didn't play out that way.) Though if he were dead, I wouldn't have his story line to enjoy this season since his plight this season has been one of the few that has interested me.


Nathan's recovery: Too many blind spots, what happened to Heidi in the end, did I miss something?I think it had something to do with Angela Petrelli's power. Hers seems to deal with manipulating the mind somehow, I think. Not sure if that ended up resulting in their eventual split though. I'm guessing Nathan's depression did that. I think she just wanted to "suggest" to Heidi to not blab about Nathan saying he could fly etc.


Adam and Peter: Could have been great, but the build up just went on and on with next to no payoff at the end.Agreed. It just didn't go anywhere, and this was one of the main bits I was looking forward to.


The Nikki/DL stuff was boring (other than seeing DL really use his power to be a true hero) but then I've never been a fan of their story. Then DL's death was a cruddy way for him to die. :mckay:

The Maya inclusion was not as bad as I thought it was going to be though and agree with The Signal that the teaser was fine but the follow up wasn't needed. Though I think their story should have been left out of this episode all together and mentioned in another episode.

I'd have liked to have seen something of the others, especially Sylar, but I suppose they are saving that for when he finally gets to NYC.


As far as it's placement this late, I would have liked for it to have been earlier in the season but not necessarily the first episode. Of course I would have liked to have know immediately what had happened after the events of last season but having that gap in knowledge did make for some intrigue this season....How did Nathan survive and what happened to him? What exactly happened to Peter? etc. My problem with this season was there being too much filler (Maya and Monica mostly followed by West) and the story taking too long to progress.

MmmmMcKAy
November 13th, 2007, 04:57 PM
I didn't mind the episode(aside from Maya and her brother...I can't stand them now). Elle was a hoot(kudos to Kristen Bell).

Poor DL.....what a crappy way to go. I actually felt bad for Niki there too.


Anyway, the episode cleared some things up. I don't know why they just don't show all this stuff during the season premiere, though.

P-90_177
November 13th, 2007, 05:07 PM
I thought this ep was pretty good. I'm looking forward to seeing more stuff with adam. I really love his character. Also i liked the expalnation to how Peter and his brother survived. It was bugging me a little how he managed to survive peter exploding.

The Nikki and DL storyline was also ok. i liked to see that he got the chance to be a real hero. It was obvious that he was trying really hard to do what was right and the way he died was so tragic.

as for maya and her brother........meh........i just want them to get on with what sylar has planned for them.

the fifth man
November 13th, 2007, 07:36 PM
Overall, I thought it was a very good episode. I really look forward to these next three though. Things have been building to these three episodes.

Darren
November 13th, 2007, 09:13 PM
The story-telling mechanism of "Let's leap forward and make people figure out what is going on now, then go back and reveal the connecting pieces" can be interesting, but overall I think it didn't work. It didn't work here because we didn't really learn anything here that we didn't already know:

- Nathan and Peter survived.
- Someone with memory-wiping abilities and a necklace with the "Godsend" symbol wiped Peter's memory.
- D.L. dies.
- Niki is dealing with a split personality again.
- Nathan has some disfigurement issues he is dealing with.
- Elle knows Peter, and works for the Company. And she's a bit psycho.
- Adam was involved in the Company leadership, but his cohorts from the former generation turned on him.

Really, what did this episode actually tell us? A little bit of Elle's background. How Adam got out of jail. The cellular regeneration power can heal the Haitian's mind wipe and even restore the lost memories. Adam was involved in saving Nathan.

All in all, not much.

I can't say that the loss of D.L.'s character is a tragic blow to the show, but the way they offed him seems pretty pointless to me. Gunned down by Miscellaneous L.A. Party-Goer #14 Who Wants To Dance With Niki Again? He's taking his wife out of a club. Big effin' deal. NoName pulling out a gun and murdering him over it -- after their scuffle was over and they were on their way out! -- just doesn't ring true.

Pull out the gun, wave it around, threaten, scuffle, accidental discharge ... sure, I can buy that. But "I'm going to murder you in public and spend the rest of my life in prison because I'm mad you took my dance partner of the moment?" Even if he was coked out of his mind, it was stupid.

Phenix
November 13th, 2007, 10:32 PM
I can't say that the loss of D.L.'s character is a tragic blow to the show, but the way they offed him seems pretty pointless to me. Gunned down by Miscellaneous L.A. Party-Goer #14 Who Wants To Dance With Niki Again? He's taking his wife out of a club. Big effin' deal. NoName pulling out a gun and murdering him over it -- after their scuffle was over and they were on their way out! -- just doesn't ring true.

Pull out the gun, wave it around, threaten, scuffle, accidental discharge ... sure, I can buy that. But "I'm going to murder you in public and spend the rest of my life in prison because I'm mad you took my dance partner of the moment?" Even if he was coked out of his mind, it was stupid.

I don't know how old you are or if you ever been to clubs but that does happen. It is far more common than you realize.

nekoi
November 14th, 2007, 02:09 AM
I don't know how old you are or if you ever been to clubs but that does happen. It is far more common than you realize.

Regardless as to how often it happens, it was just a very unclimactic and stupid way to off a character.

jds1982
November 14th, 2007, 09:43 AM
I'd have to say the biggest problem I had with this episode was Nathan's beard. At the beginning of the season he had a great big bushy beard. and I thought ok, four months of not shaving and drinking, I can buy that. Now we find out that three weeks before the premier he was clean shaven. What the hell is he? A werewolf. No one can grow that much facial hair in three weeks. Unless it's some weird side effect of Adam's blood.

BeckettRulez
November 14th, 2007, 11:14 AM
Also liked the episode for the following reasons:

1. Adam was fun;-)
2. Adam in present time: I think that gives the character a new and better story because the company is scared of him.
3. Lots of Peter in it
4. Explanation of what happend to Peter
5. Peter with long hair *lol* at least in the beginning.( I miss the bangs.)

Some parts I didn't like:
1. The way how DL died
2. The character Elle is starting to bug me, which is strange because I liked the character in the beginning, but now she seems like a lunatic...

Hoping to see in the future:
More Adam and Peter, those two are an interesting duo.
Nathan meeting Peter;-)

MarshAngel
November 14th, 2007, 01:20 PM
[U]Some parts I didn't like:
2. The character Elle is starting to bug me, which is strange because I liked the character in the beginning, but now she seems like a lunatic...

That's because she is..just as her psych profile suggests, Antisocial little sadist. She was annoying and a little scary. Can't help the feeling she zaps ants for fun and licks her fingers after her dinner....of babies.

Ace
November 14th, 2007, 01:37 PM
That's because she is..just as her psych profile suggests, Antisocial little sadist. She was annoying and a little scary. Can't help the feeling she zaps ants for fun and licks her fingers after her dinner....of babies.

I actually thought she did the best acting of anyone else in that episode... I'm actually liking her character because of the episode. Before I was iffy on her if only because we didn't have any background on her story yet.

Ace

MarshAngel
November 14th, 2007, 02:01 PM
I actually thought she did the best acting of anyone else in that episode... I'm actually liking her character because of the episode. Before I was iffy on her if only because we didn't have any background on her story yet.

Ace
Yes, her performance was good. I actually forgot that I like the actress... because I really wanted to zap her.

MarshAngel
November 14th, 2007, 04:56 PM
you know, something Bob said about the development of powers occasionally resulting in the development of a split personality makes me wonder if something similar is happening to Nathan? The burnt image he is seeing of himself in the mirror is pretty similar to Niki's problem.

s09119
November 14th, 2007, 04:57 PM
you know, something Bob said about the development of powers occasionally resulting in the development of a split personality makes me wonder if something similar is happening to Nathan? The burnt image he is seeing of himself in the mirror is pretty similar to Niki's problem.

But it isn't trying to take control of his life, it's more like a halucination or illusion.

MarshAngel
November 15th, 2007, 04:58 AM
But it isn't trying to take control of his life, it's more like a halucination or illusion.
Niki wasn't even aware Jessica had taken control for a while. When she became aware that something was off, she still didn't seem aware of another personality.

It could just be an illusion...but i enjoy the possibility that he might be nuts.

Thermonuclearboy
November 15th, 2007, 06:14 AM
Yes, her performance was good. I actually forgot that I like the actress... because I really wanted to zap her.

Quite.

The thing I don't like about Elle is that she's pretty much the exact same character that Eden and Candace were. She's this cute little thing who's smug and amoral and messes with people for fun. I'm getting really sick of this girl continuing to show up.

I take comfort, however, in the fact that Sylar has killed this girl twice already, so maybe third time's the charm. Frankly I miss Sylar's directness as a villian; when he messes with your head, he just rips the top off.

Personally I thought DL's fate was great from a dramatic level. Things were finally going well for them, they were getting their lives back on track...and a random act of violence just HAPPENS. That's what makes it more jarring.

cheese
November 15th, 2007, 06:27 AM
Not as good as last week, but nice to have some little details filled in.

Like others have said already parts of this definately should have been in the season premiere, Peter's exploding scene was freaking awesome.

Peter - overall a pretty poor story. Parts of it jsut made no sense. He gets put in a cell beside Adam, then a month later Adam finally gets round to asking his name?! After a month of chatting you would have thought they'd be past names by now! On the other hand Elle was super-super hot. Does Adam's long-life mean Claire is also going to live for hundreds of years? Not neccessarily, that could be a minor distinction between their powers.

Nathan- kinda okayish, but still blah, all his nonsense in the middle could have been cut out. It was nice to put an end to the the silly speculation about his strange appearence in the mirror.

The Wonder Twins story was actually not bad, this is one of the things that should have been in the premiere, rather than jumping into their story. Showing these scenes would have eliminated at least one of there dragged out adventures by giving us all the exposition on their powers right away.

Where the hell was Sylar though? Did the writers not think we'd like to know exactly how he survived, how he lost his powers? what the Company were doing with him and why they let him go so easily? Massive holes in the season that could have been explained in this one.

Supremely glad that there was no Claire or West garbage.

DL's death was terrible, that guy has no luck when it comes to guns. We already knew he was dead, so what was the point of building him up so much in this episode only to kill him in such a crappy way?

The seasons turn around took a couple of steps back with this one, but it was a neccessary evil to finally get everything in order for the final three episodes of the season.

Hypochondriac
November 15th, 2007, 10:52 AM
Hated the fact that they used a flashback for the past 4 months. It should have been the season premier.

Nitpick: How the hell did peter know everything that went on when he wasn't around? The way they showed it he was recalling/recovering his memories, so he shouldn't have know the background stories of the other characters.

Lord Iceman
November 17th, 2007, 04:45 PM
Nitpick: How the hell did peter know everything that went on when he wasn't around? The way they showed it he was recalling/recovering his memories, so he shouldn't have know the background stories of the other characters.

Peter was only recalling his own memories. Four months ago doesn't mean just for Peter. They just used that as a lead in to justify a flashback show.

On a side note, at least when this show has a filer episode, there is some plot information. Other shows (i.e. Lost and Atlantis, etc.) don't seem to advance the overall storyline except for the finales and the premieres. In Heroes, something actually happens each week.

tombombadil
November 17th, 2007, 04:49 PM
out of curiosity how did peter "remember what didn't even happen to him during the four months.IE Nickie and DL. side stories that sort of go against the general continuity of the episode, lol.

Lord Iceman
November 17th, 2007, 07:17 PM
out of curiosity how did peter "remember what didn't even happen to him during the four months.IE Nickie and DL. side stories that sort of go against the general continuity of the episode, lol.

The parts of the show where Peter was not involved in were NOT his memories. The show only used the Peter remembering things as a way to introduce the flashback show. Once the story switched to other characters, they were no longer Peter's memories, they were just things that happened in the past (flashbacks).

At no point in time did they try to pass off other character's plot lines as Peter remembering what happened to people he was not with.

I guess you could always go with Peter becoming invisible and going back in time to spy on the others if that works for you.

Lord Iceman
November 17th, 2007, 07:30 PM
The show was titled "Four Months Ago" not "Everything in this episode is Peter's memories, including scenes he wasn't even in. It really doesn't make sense, but, yeah, they were all his memories. (Including the scenes with Niki and DL, especially those, were definitely directly Peter's memories and not just additional scenes that had nothing to do with Peter.)"

Dusk
November 18th, 2007, 01:00 AM
Interestingly, here's a widely circulating synopsis I've found that was released before the episode went to air. Notice that most of this never actually occurs...


As the second volume of Heroes begins, the fates of Peter, Nathan, and Matt are revealed, following the horrible showdown with Sylar and Peter's uncontrolled nuclear detonation miles above New York City. As everyone attempts to move on, a new sinister force begins stalking and murdering Heroes. With the family safely hiding in Southern Calafornia, H.R.G. and Claire attempt to live as inconspicuously as possible... which proves to be easier said than done.

Meanwhile, after landing in feudal Japan,Hiro meets his hero Takezo Kensei. Twins Maya and Alejandro Herrera hope to make the crossing into the U.S. from Mexico, in hopes of finding help with their deadly abilities.

Very weird!

jds1982
November 18th, 2007, 02:14 AM
Uh isn't that the synopsis for Four Months Later, or whatever the premiere was called.

Lord Iceman
November 18th, 2007, 09:29 AM
Uh isn't that the synopsis for Four Months Later, or whatever the premiere was called.

It certainly is and it certainly is

Dusk
November 18th, 2007, 11:20 PM
I'm guessing it is simply confusion between similar episode titles. Speaking of which, as has been mentioned, "Four Months Ago..." is a poor choice of title, as I would place the events of the episode at around 8 months ago? Yes/no?

Matt G
June 12th, 2008, 03:11 PM
1. The wedding scene was...ugh! The biggest reason for this ep being the premiere rather than ep 8! I saw it coming from ten miles off and it just seemed all the more sick as a result!

2. OK, not sure what to make of Adam at this point but safe bet says he's still dodgy.

3. This was the Haitian's idea of a safe way out? He still has his powers - that plan clearly didn't work!

4. So Nikki loses Jessica and winds up with...Gina? Not that bad an idea, DL got killed off a bit too cheap though.

An OK flashback ep though!

SgaIsBad
September 5th, 2008, 09:34 AM
Peter's story a big letdown to me.

garhkal
November 30th, 2015, 11:44 PM
Talk about a filler episode. There was nothing that we have not talked about on this forum. I guess we can say that it was original to make Nikki have another personality but really we all know DL dies. He dies because of Nikki. I figured that she would have at least killed him.

At least Elle is a hottie.

And how far does the Haitian project? You'd think that Peter could have flown away with Adam.

well, nathan was what, 12 or so feet away in S1 when HE flew away..


I actually thought she did the best acting of anyone else in that episode... I'm actually liking her character because of the episode. Before I was iffy on her if only because we didn't have any background on her story yet.

Ace

From what it looks like, daddy has kept her hold up IN the company HQ, so she has had to develop something to bide the time.. Perhaps that is what has made her sadistic..