The Travelers' History

[BobTheWrath]

Remember way back when that one Genii from season one, not kolya or the girl, but the one from star trek, talked about he Genii once being a confederation of many races with advance techs and what not. When Larrin said that they once had the ability to make more ships, could it be possible that the Travelers once were part of the confederation?

[jds1982]

Kinda was thinking that myself.

[Xaeden]

Could be, but I'm more interested in knowing when that confederation took place and how long have the Travelers been building ships for. I have this sneaking suspicion that perhaps the more advanced Humans in the galaxy were helping the Ancients fight the Wraith during the war and after the Ancients left the Travelers just wandered around trying to survive.

[Redhooks]

I agree that more history on the Travelers should have been given or at least hinted at better. With them only being in one more episode this year (BAMSR) I don't think we will know any more of their history this season.

[garhkal]

Kinda was thinking that myself.

Same here. Heck i mentioned it in the Travelers general thread..

[WingedPegasus]

Remember way back when that one Genii from season one, not kolya or the girl, but the one from star trek, talked about he Genii once being a confederation of many races with advance techs and what not. When Larrin said that they once had the ability to make more ships, could it be possible that the Travelers once were part of the confederation?

Huh, maybe. Good thought. BTW, I think the guy's name was Cowen.

[Vapor]

Yes, it was Cowen.

I just got through mentioning that it'd be cool to see the three groups form an uneasy alliance to pull off some incredibly huge operation. But, now that I've heard this thought of the Travelers having once been part of a larger confederation with the Genii, it just makes the idea that much cooler.

[SaberBlade]

I think the Genii being connected to the Travellers is interesting, but I can't really see it. What I can't see is the Genii and the Travellers being part of the space race. The Genii couldn't even master radiation shielding for their atomic weapons programs, and on top of that it took them god knows how many years to develop the weapons.

I don't think they would have technologically regressed knowing that their technology could be the only thing that saves them. Their scientists would have ended up working on bigger and better things which is what the Travellers seemed to do.

The Genii and the Travellers at some point being part of a alliance (like the four great races but less advanced) is interesting and it would open the door to a vist the Genii, their history and whatnot while learning more about the human life in Atlantis.

Say it turned out that Athosians built the ruined city and not Ancients (because we need something in the plot to relate to Atlantis in one way), then it adds to more backstory for the Athosians and why they were originally friends with the Genii. I do think this confederation deserves more exploration. Who knows, maybe the Genii along with the Athosians both regressed to a more primative state.

[FallenAngelII]

Say it turned out that Athosians built the ruined city and not Ancients (because we need something in the plot to relate to Atlantis in one way), then it adds to more backstory for the Athosians and why they were originally friends with the Genii. I do think this confederation deserves more exploration. Who knows, maybe the Genii along with the Athosians both regressed to a more primative state.

Wow, the Athosians must really have gone senile at some point if they not only forgot about how they were the ones who built that city on Athos (as Teyla clearly states that it was built by "The Ancestors") or that the Genii weren't on the same technological level as Earth's Amish people (as Teyla was clearly surprised when it was revealed that they weren't).

[Prior_of_the_Ori]

An interesting idea though personally I can't really see it. Though I do agree that the Confederation of the Genii worlds history should be explained more. Personally, I think that world where the Taranans went to in season 3, the one where Michael made his bug people, might have been a Genii world because the people employed the exact same defensive mechanism as the Genii which is building a large underground bunker.

I think a more interesting avenue for the future storyline is perhaps an alliance forming between the Genii and the Travelers. The Genii provide food and supplies from their worlds as well as covert operations while the Travelers provide technology and space travel. Would be cool to see....

[SaberBlade]

Wow, the Athosians must really have gone senile at some point if they not only forgot about how they were the ones who built that city on Athos (as Teyla clearly states that it was built by "The Ancestors") or that the Genii weren't on the same technological level as Earth's Amish people (as Teyla was clearly surprised when it was revealed that they weren't).

Well they are Athosians. These are the same people who wanted to return home even after being told their planet was completely scorched and life wouldn't return. They aren't exactly known for common sense either, as I do believe they wanted to stay on the mainland during "The Storm". Plus its always easier for them to blame the Ancestors for building an Outpost that drew the Wraith instead of just accepting they did it themselves. Eat a few people, vaporise a few buildings and who knows what you could make people believe.

[jds1982]

I don't think the Genii purposely regressed, I'm sure the Wraith blasting the crap out of their civilization might have something to do with it. I imagine the travellers ancestors were in space when any attacks happened, and they ran away so they wouldn't be slaughtered. Whereas the Genii were stuck on a planet with a destroyed infrastructure and slowly had to regain knowledge.

[Ltcolshepjumper]

Remember way back when that one Genii from season one, not kolya or the girl, but the one from star trek, talked about he Genii once being a confederation of many races with advance techs and what not. When Larrin said that they once had the ability to make more ships, could it be possible that the Travelers once were part of the confederation?

I think its very much possible. they're styles are similar. Maybe the Travelers decided to pursue space travel isntead of going underground like the genii. It would explain why their ships are so rusted. They also act the same.

[Heaven]

I don't think the Genii were that advanced in their height
remember their bunker city is supposedly from their old civilization, and it doesn't seem that advanced at all
the fact that they had a confederation that consisted of many planets doesn't necessarily mean they were technologically advanced

[Ltcolshepjumper]

I'm not saying that. What if the Travelers were once on the level of the Genii?